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161  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: April 21, 2024, 09:59:31 PM
Juventus dropping points against Cagliari could become a costly mistake although they can be lucky that Roma is now taking on Bologna and points will be dropped. But Roma is still two games behind and if they win the game that was suspended against Udinese and then the game against Bologna, the table could be looking very scary for Juventus. I thought they had been through already weeks ago, but didn't think that they would start dropping points nonstop. A win against Bologna would definitely be the decisive step for Roma to make the Champions League qualification possible. De Rossi is doing a pretty good job and Mourinho must be asking himself what was going on with the team under his management.
It is not very surprising to see Juventus can't get full points against Cagliari because Juventus has dropped their performance in the last few matches. It is not so different with the last 2 seasons, they always wasted the chance of collecting full points toward the end of the season. Allegri is a typical coach who can't focus in the remaining matches in second half of the season. I don't understand why Allegri always did it, I think it is because he often gets a dismissal issue when the season is almost over. Honestly, it is very annoying to see Juventus performing very inconsistently when it is in crucial time.

I don't think Juventus will be lucky. We don't know if Roma could steal points against Bologna. Bologna is a strong team and they will try all out to catch Juventus. If Bologna can beat Roma, they have a chance to overtake Juventus position in 3rd place. However, Juventus will be safe in UCL zone, they will end the season in 4th place at least.


162  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: April 21, 2024, 09:56:17 PM
The match ended 3-2. Jude Bellingham provide the difference to compete the comeback; this has shown how good Real Madrid is both in the Laliga and the Champions League~~
Yep. Real Madrid won the match with 3 goals. They succeed to come back although Barcelona is leading in minute 69'. For me, Lucas Vazquez becomes the man who gives the difference on this match. He scored a goal in minute 73' and he contributed for 1 assist on Bellingham's goal. It is interesting that a right-back can be the man of the match in this El Clasico.

Madrid is now 11 points clear ahead of Barcelona, this win has given them more hope that they will surely win this season’s Laliga because Barcelona that is suppose to show challenge them is now behind them with little or no hope this season.
Leading with 11 points makes Real Madrid no doubt to win the La Liga title. The competition is over, Barcelona has no chance to overtake Real Madrid now. It is now only the competition for the runner-up position. It will be interesting because Barcelona and Girona only have 2 points gap. Barcelona can't underestimate Girona.

I think Barcelona need to sign more players next season if they really wants to be more competitive in the Laliga~~
Unfortunately Barcelona has no ability to spend a lot of money for signing new players. If they want to sign top players, they need to sell some of their young players. The financial problem makes Barcelona to fail signing expected players.

163  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: April 19, 2024, 08:45:55 PM
I am quite sure that Salah will not leave Liverpool in the next few seasons because his name has become popular with Liverpool and Salah has also broken many records with Liverpool. This season, Salah also performed quite well with Liverpool and he scored many goals and was able to bring Liverpool to compete in the title race this season. Indeed, sometimes the rumors that develop are not 100 percent true because the media only fabricates news to attract readers.
Salah has been an important part of Liverpool squad. He is like the machine goal, no one can replace his role in Liverpool now. Also Salah didn't perform as well as in the previous seasons, Salah still contributed well for Liverpool. With this fact, there is no way that Liverpool want to lose him for the next season. Although they have many attackers, Salah's role is still important. So, it is just a rumor that Salah may leave Liverpool.

Liverpool will lose Jurgen Kloop next season because Kloop has officially announced that he will leave at the end of this season. Let's see who will be Liverpool coach next season. If only Xabi alonso becomes Liverpool coach, I think Liverpool will be quite strong next season.
Jurgen Klopp has announced to leave Liverpool. He already managed Liverpool for many years, he may need something new in his life. As far as I know, he won't try to manage a new team, he wants to focus on his family. Sure, it is sad but Liverpool must forget Klopp and find out a new coach. Xabi Alonso has said to stay in Leverkusen, he won't go to Liverpool. So far, I don't see a big candidate for the next coach of Liverpool.

164  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you believe in savings or investment on: April 19, 2024, 08:37:16 PM
Having money in the bank is good but having a profitable investment is much better. So, to me is more about investment rather than just saving, because saving add little or no interest on your money but investment in various sectors like example in the housing sector guarantees return on investment in the long run. So I go with investment over savings.
If your purpose is for gaining money, investment is the choice. But we don't always expect for earning money, sometimes we are trying to secure money for the future. You need to understand that investment doesn't automatically gain profits, it has the risk of losing money. When you are not lucky or do the investment in careless way, you may have a chance to lose money. Meanwhile saving the money in bank will have no the risk of losing money as in the investment. You may pay for monthly fee in bank, but our money is safe in bank.

Anyway, just try to understand what the purpose of saving. It is not to get the interest, it to secure reserved money. So, don't compare the purpose of investment and saving!

165  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Mari Kita Sambut, dan Meriahkan Halving Day! on: April 19, 2024, 08:27:30 PM
Jika kondisi seperti ini sama dengan sebelumnya, ane yakin harga akan perlahan-lahan naik menyesuaikan dengan kondisi demand atau permintaan yang semakin meningkat. Karena setahu ane, bitcoin ini menyesuaikan dengan prinsip dasar ekonomi, beda dengan fiat atau mata uang yang prinsip dasarnya diatur oleh lembaga dan negara, sedangkan bitcoin, prinsip dasarnya lebih kepada pure; supply dan demand, market spotnya banyak dan real sesuai dengan apa yang terjadi saat itu, supply-nya real dan demandnya sesuai dengan volume market.
Kalau kita lihat pergerakan harga BTC hari ini, sudah terlihat mulai naik perlahan. Kemaren harga turun sampe dikisaran $60k-$61k, saat ini harga ada di angka $64k. Bahkan tadi sempat naik ke $65k. Jika tidak ada bad news, saya kira akan naik lagi melewati $65k dan menuju ke $70k seperti harapan kita semua. Harusnya halving masih punya impact yang sama seperti sebelumnya, halving punya andil besar untuk mendorong harga naik secara signifikan.

Ya, pada prinsipnya harga naik atau turun itu sesuai dengan supply-demand di market. Karena Bitcoin ini terdesentralisasi, tidak ada yang mengatur harganya, maka harga akan selalu berdasarkan supply-demand. Jika circulating supplynya berkurang setengah, mau tidak mau harga akan terdongkrak naik harusnya. Semoga saja tidak ada kejutan lagi seperti perang Iran-Israel.

166  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: April 19, 2024, 08:14:34 PM
In this match Manchester City played very well. However, unfortunately there are still many opportunities that cannot be exploited properly. So even though in this match Manchester City managed to dominate the game well. However, in that match Manchester City was only able to score one goal through De Bruyne in the 76th minute. And in that match, the Real Madrid players actually came under quite a lot of pressure from the Manchester City players. Because how could it not be, in this match Real Madrid visits Manchester City's headquarters which will definitely make the game of the Manchester City players better. But fortunately, Real Madrid was able to hold Manchester City to a 1-1 draw and ultimately had to go to a penalty shootout.
You're right, Man City actually played well, they really dominated the match. Man City have made a lot of chances to score goals but Man City only succeed scoring 1 goal. Besides Real Madrid goalkeeper performed impressive, Man City players were not lucky because there are some good chances but it always ended up with no goals. I saw De Bruyne have some great chances but he failed to convert it to be goals. It can be the unlucky factor of Man City on the match.

Modric should buy their goalkeeper a house or something hehe. His miss was a bad start to the penalty shootout but it still turned out good thanks to the brilliance of the GK.
Agree.  Grin
However, in the penalty shootout, Real Madrid players showed their winning mentality. Their mentality never dropped although Modric failed scoring the first goal. Honestly, I'm quite surprised to see Modric unable to convert it be a goal. Sure, Lunin played very impressive, he is indeed reliable even though he is not Real Madrid's main goalkeeper.

RM should be the huge favorite to win the tournament after disposing City. Bayern is also tough but I doubt they can really beat Ancelotti and his men.
I'm calling it now - RM vs PSG in the Finalas.
Yep. It seems Real Madrid vs PSG will be the ideal final. I am sure Real Madrid will secure their final ticket since in Leg 1 against Bayern Munich. And PSG looks like to be stronger than Dortmund. So, in theory, Real Madrid will face PSG in the final round. It will be a nice final if it really happens as expected.

167  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: April 19, 2024, 07:54:35 PM
Bayern Munich has already lost a lot of things. Remember us saying that the Bundesliga title is like the default title of Bayern Munich?
I said that and somehow they have not been able to win the title this season.
Yep. Bayern Munich lost the chance to win Bundesliga title, they also lost the chance winning DFB Pokal title as well. Leverkusen has won the title of Bundesliga, they will win the title of DFB Pokal, too. Leverkusen becomes the obstacle of Bayern Munich winning domestic competitions this season. If they are eliminated by Real Madrid in UCL, they will have no hope for any title this season.

will they be able to win that title that they are actually looking for?
And I am talking about the Champions League title. imagine what might have happened if they actually had Leverkusen playing in the Champions League as well. yesterday they knocked out Arsenal, Kimmich's header was really incredible.
If Leverkusen plays in UCL and they must face one another in UCL, I think Leverkusen will eliminate Bayern Munich. Leverkusen never has a problem with Bayern Munich during this season, Leverkusen seems to be stronger in the next season. I think there will be no chance like they beat Arsenal yesterday, Leverkusen is totally a different team with a different game style.


168  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: April 19, 2024, 07:44:11 PM
I agree with you. Real Madrid will go all out to beat Barcelona. I think this will be an important moment for them because if Madrid is able to beat Barcelona then they will be 11 points ahead of Barcelona in second place. This will further secure first place for them.
No doubt Real Madrid will try to beat Barcelona with their best. Sure, it is an important match for Real Madrid, winning the match may secure their position in the 1st place. If Real Madrid win the match, the point gap will be 11 points and it will be quite difficult to catch by Barcelona because there will be 5 remaining matches only.

The Champions League will be played on May 1. That means Madrid will have sufficient rest time after playing Barca.
Indeed. The match will be in the early of next month, there is enough time to take a rest. I think it won't be a problem to play all out against Barcelona before the match against Bayern Munich in UCL.

Yes, Madrid currently leads the standings with 78 points. Barcelona is right behind them with a difference of 8 points. Madrid has met Barcelona twice this season, and always won. Madrid will stay away and increase their chances of winning if they are able to beat their rival again in the next match.
They are leading with 8 points but it may be not secure if Barcelona can win the match. The point gap will be 5 points, Barcelona may have a chance to catch Real Madrid if Real Madrid lose again the next match. Real Madrid should avoid this possibility, they will try to win the match. So, I agree that Real Madrid chance to win the title is higher if they win the El Clasico.

169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is LTC dead? on: April 19, 2024, 04:29:47 PM
Once, Litecoin was a very famous coin and it was called "Digital Silver".
But nowadays, very few people talk about Litecoin anymore.
Is Litecoin dead in your opinion?
Litecoin is still one of the top 20 coins if you checked carefully in CoinMarketCap. It basically remains a famous coin, there is no big change in the popularity of this coin. If its position dropped, it is normal because of the competition among other top coins. I think it may raise again its position someday if there is a new innovation in this Litecoin. So, it is strange if you said it is dead already. Besides those reasons, Litecoin is also still listed in varied top exchanges in the world. It means there is still a lot of people who trade or invest in Litecoin.

By the way, the coin is still alive as long as the coin is listed in an exchange. It is dead when there is no people who trade it and it is listed no where.


170  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Mari Kita Sambut, dan Meriahkan Halving Day! on: April 18, 2024, 09:06:58 PM
Sebenarnya ini lagi ngempet (menahan diri untuk tidak melakukan TP secara dini)  Grin. Jika prediksinya mulus, maka ada plan untuk TP (beberapa coin) saat BTC menembus 80K, lalu menunggu momen koreksi untuk melakukan Buy the Dip. Namun kalo yang terjadi kedepannya tidak sesuai ekspetasi, ya terpaksa akan tetap melakukan Hodl  Grin
Jadi ini ada plan untuk TP kalo harga BTC bisa naik ke $80k pas halving nanti?
Ya bisa juga jual dulu kemudian beli lagi ketika ada dump pasca halving. Sangat mungkin market drop lagi ketika selesai halving karena mungkin akan lumayan banyak orang-orang yang jual BTC mereka pas momen harga naik. Apalagi kalau naiknya sampe di rate $80k.

Terus terang pergerakan market BTC sekarang agak susah untuk diprediksi dan kerap terjadi sebuah kejutan, namun kalo secara pattern masih mirip-mirip dengan Halving sebelumnya.
Ya, secara umum sepertinya masih mirip dengan patter sebelum-sebelumnya. Cuman apakah lonjakannya bisa sama dengan yang sebelumnya? Yang ini kita tidak tau sama sekali.  Grin



BTW halving tinggal 1 hari gaes. Harga BTC masih posisi ngedump. Masih jauh untuk naik ke $80k.  Grin



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171  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: April 18, 2024, 08:54:50 PM
Manchester City will do everything they can to win the Premier League title this season because Manchester City was eliminated in the UCL this season on penalties. And if you look at the quality of players that Manchester City has this season, of course the team has a big chance of winning the Premier League again this season compared to Arsenal and Liverpool.
Indeed. Both Man City and Arsenal will focus on competing for EPL title now, they are no longer joining UCL title race. Liverpool also will do the same because they seem to be eliminated in Europa league today. So, we will see 3 top EPL teams will be focusing on the domestic title. It is going to be a very interesting competition because the point gap is rather small.

If we look at the current position on EPL table, Man City surely has a bigger chance to win the title. However, a surprise is very possible because they are leading with a narrow deference. If Man City fails to win in 1-2 next matches, Liverpool and Arsenal possibly overtake the 1st place.


172  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: April 18, 2024, 08:45:48 PM
I think now is a good time for Salah to leave because his physical form is still very good and in a new place he can show himself at a top level. The Saudi League has progressed significantly and now it is not enough to be a big brand - you have to work hard and bring real benefits. If Salah gets there with the right timing, he will be a very respected player, if not, then maybe the story with Benzema will repeat itself.
I don't think so. Why Salah should leave Liverpool now? Salah still has a contract with Liverpool until Jun 30, 2025. He also still performed well and he has no problem with his fitness or physical. He deserves to stay in Liverpool until the end of his contract at least. I see no player in Liverpool squad has the same quality as Salah, it is very unfortunate if Liverpool should let him moving to another team.

Salah may be interested in Saudi league but I think it is too early to join Saudi league now. Salah is still in a good age for a professional footballer, he is 31 years old. I think he can maintain his best level until 34-35 years old. So, he can play in Europe for the next 3 years, he is better to stay playing in a high level of football competition.

By the way, I think Salah won't have the same story as Benzema experienced in Al Ittihad. Benzema is injury prone, Salah has no problem with his physical or fitness.

173  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: April 18, 2024, 08:30:26 PM
Liverpool started the game with enthusiasm by scoring an early goal but here we are at the half time and the score didn't change, with Atalanta 0 - 1 Liverpool and Atalanta 3 - 1 Liverpool on aggregate. They need to rush more if they want to qualify while Atalanta needs to ruin the game to win..
Yep. Liverpool could score in minute 7' but no more goal until now. They looked like not playing very aggressively although they are applying attacking tactic. It is surely not enough to have an average attacking style, Liverpool must play with total attacking style. If they failed scoring 2 more goals, they will be eliminated in this round. Honestly, I am a bit doubtful with Liverpool now, it is almost reaching minute 70' but they only succeed scoring 1 goal.

In the other matches, Roma are comfy with the three goals advantage on aggregate. West Ham United trying to equalize Bayer Leverkusen. Marseille 0 - 0 Benfica for the moment.
Roma is leading 2 goals although one of their defenders got a red card. With 10 players, it seems Roma using a defensive tactic. Lukaku and Dybala have been changed already. They only need to defend the leading until the end of the match. By the way, Leverkusen needs to score 1 goal if they want to secure the ticket for the next round. It seems Xabi using all the key players now.

174  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is age a limitation in Bitcoin on: April 18, 2024, 08:20:19 PM
Yeah, but you need traditional banking to cash out or deposit to CEX... So even though no direct age barrier exists in crypto Bitcoin, there are indirect barriers. Theoretically, you could search for P2P cash - crypto Bitcoin DEX without KYC, but it may not exist in your area.
You're right, mate. We should have bank account to withdraw or deposit fiats to exchanges. As far as I know, the minimum age for having a bank account is 18 years old. So, it is quite impossible to invest or trade in Bitcoin if we are under 18 years old. Moreover, it is quite doubtful that underage people can understand how to invest or trade in Bitcoin.

Yep. Using P2P is sometimes quite complicated and it may not be available in any place around the world. This won't be a common way for converting the profits from Bitcoin. Like it or not, we need a bank account for withdrawal and deposit our funds.

175  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you believe in savings or investment on: April 17, 2024, 09:59:15 PM
Investment is good than saving money, because through investing we can double our money in just a short period of time, while in saving it takes a very long time to have a big savings because it is really hard to save when we have a lot of basic needs to buy so for me investment is more good than savings.
If you can afford the loss of the money, investment is a good choice. But if you don't want to take a risk on the money, investment isn't the right choice for you. Sure, investment may double our money but it also can lose all the money. Don't only think about the potential of the profits but we must also think about the risks. That's why we can't rely on the investment only, savings sometimes is also needed to secure the reserved money in the future. Savings is different, it won't have the risk of loosing all the money. The value may decrease but it won't be very significant amount.

By the way, the purpose of saving and investment is different. When you save money, you won't think to double it but you plan to secure it for the future. Meanwhile investment, we must expect for profits. We don't want to put they money with no significant change in certain assets. So, saving and investment actually can't be compared because they have a different purpose.

176  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: April 17, 2024, 09:47:31 PM
I have bad feelings about Man City. Only 5 minutes till the end of overtime. They had plenty of chances but couldn't score a winner.
but still let the game go to a penalty shootout, that gives the other team a massive psychological advantage.
Hope I'm wrong though.
Do you feel Man City to lose?  Grin
Indeed. Man City wasted too many chances, they probably feel frustrated.

Now, we see the penalty kick, 2 Man City players failed to score. I don't know if this is about psychological effect.
However, Real Madrid is a team that has a good luck in Penalty kick. I don't say Real Madrid looks like to win it but they probably have a better chance now.

So congrats to Bayern Munich for getting into the next round of the Champions League with that win today against Arsenal.
Bayern Munich deserves to go to the semi-final round. It is clear that they played better than Arsenal. Bayern Munich really takes the advantage playing at home. Now, it is getting interesting about the chance of Bayern Munich to reach the final round.



Update: Real Madrid wins the penalty kick. It is like what you feel, mate @pawel7777  Wink

177  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: April 17, 2024, 09:42:05 PM
Leverkusen did actually surprised everyone because they came from no were, and they are doing great at the table, and  maintaining  79 point on the table is not easy and from the look of things he as more chances to winning it
Of course, no one predicted Bayer Leverkusen will win the Bundesliga title this season. The unbeaten record makes people more surprised, even Bayern Munich can't do this. It is a great season for Bayer Leverkusen, they don't only win the title but they made a history as well. Sure, collecting 79 points and keep no lose are very difficult thing. But Leverkusen can do this very well, they also look like to end this season with no lose at all.

i was surprised at both bayerns and dortmunds position but it looks like that of Dortmund is worst, there chances of winning the Europa is not going to be the same with Bundesliga
Bayern Munich position isn't surprising. The runner up position is the right position for them. But for Dortmund, they are just in 5th place, they should have a better position. However, in UCL Bayern Munich and Dortmund have a different condition. These teams reach the semi-final round and have the chance to go to the final round.

if you look at that of DFB-Pokal they have a better chance there also because there score records are good, and any of the leagues it is actually possible to win but it all depends on the club.
The title of DFB Pokal seems for Bayer Leverkusen. They will play against FCK in May 26, it shouldn't be a problem for Leverkusen. I assume they will win the final match easily.

178  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: April 17, 2024, 09:30:00 PM
It's true that a lot of money has made the Arab league much better known. Because SPL clubs have succeeded in bringing in star players from Europe such as Cristiano Ronaldo, Benzema, Sadio Mane, Neymar and many more. This has attracted the attention of world football fans and started paying more attention to the SPL.
Yep. Saudi have been successful to attract the attention of people around the world. Sure, they spent a lot of money because it is the only way to ensure the star players joining Saudi league. I think they deserve to earn huge money in Saudi, they have made a big decision to play in a lower level of competition. Ronaldo is the pioneer of all the star players, he has a big role in improving the popularity of Saudi league.

in my country and many other countries they have also started broadcasting every SPL match. And yes, the SPL succeeded in attracting the attention of the football world to them.
It is normal if SPL matches have started to be broadcast in various countries around the world. Since the high interest of all football fans around the world to see the star players playing in Saudi league, it will be the advantage to broadcast the matches.

And just the news that Al-Hilal lost for the first time this season. But not at SPL but at LCA. by Al-ain. Al-hilal lost the first leg of the LCA semi-finals with a score of 4-2.
Honestly, I'm surprised with this result. Sure, without Bono and Aleksandar Mitrovic, Al Hilal can't play with their best performance. However, I think the level of Al Hilal should be much better than Al Ain even with no Bono and Aleksandar Mitrovic in the lineup. This may be just an unlucky day for Al Hilal, they still have a chance to win with big scores in Leg 2. It will be a home match for Al Hilal, the chance looks quite open.

179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin halving, historical price surges to follow? on: April 17, 2024, 09:09:24 PM
Guys have you been tracking these Bitcoin halving cycles? It's wild how they've consistently led to massive price surges in the past.
Tracking? Do you mean learning the cycles? I think everyone learned it, we all know how the halving contributed to the huge increase in Bitcoin price. Halving already happened several times, so people must learn how its patterns. So far, it is true that halving always brings a significant change in the price. Even if there is no guarantee for another huge increase, but it is likely to happen in the same way.

The pattern is clear. Based on that history, a lot of analysts are predicting Bitcoin soaring to around $500K.
Yep, the pattern is quite clear although it may change someday. I personally still believe it will remain in the same pattern for the current season. I don't see something to change it. By the way, who predicted the Bitcoin will reach $500k in this season? Most people only predicted the price may reach $150k - $200k. I never saw an analyst predicting the price $500k.  Huh



This topic should be in Bitcoin Discussion or in Speculation.


180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Existing/established altcoins or new ones? on: April 16, 2024, 09:43:03 PM
Normally new altcoins give more profits because the old altcoins have tons and tons of bag holders. These bag holders are usually going to sell at break even or near break even so there is more sell pressure.
It is only in theory. Nowadays, new altcoins only give more losses because most of them are easily dumped after they are listed in the first exchange. Meanwhile old coins may give good profits because we can buy them with cheap prices during the dump in the market recently. Then, we can sell them in the next altcoins season.

A new altcoin generally has everyone in profit and they are less likely to sell when there is a small move, hence its why they usually go 10x and more people end up making money. Go look at the CMC of 2017 and see how many of those mid type alts are dead right now and bag holders is the real reason.
Unfortunately, it is no longer the new altcoins in 2016, 2017, or 2018. In these years, I know that ICO was very popular and people can easily get enough profits from the new altcoins getting from ICOs. Nowadays, it is very difficult to get profits from new altcoins, moreover if the new altcoins have very low day volumes in the market. They probably will end up to be dead altcoins.

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