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1141  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your personal debt reduction method aside the debt snowball method? on: June 23, 2023, 08:38:36 PM
Getting loans from family or relatives and friends sometimes makes us a little complacent and less burdened. But this can make us lack motivation to pay off loans. and yes it can create enemies and create rifts in our relationship with relatives. And actually if there are families who want to lend us money without interest then that's a fortune. because of the current situation, it is sometimes difficult for even family or friends to trust each other in lending money. But I personally also give loans to friends and family quite often, but luckily my family and friends always pay on time according to the agreement. And avoiding interest is what we have to do because with interest-bearing loans it will only make it more difficult for us to pay off because we have to pay off the principal loan along with the interest.
I agree that giving the loan to our family members or friends makes them have low motivation to pay off on time. I've experienced it, one of my family members take a loan from me and never pay off the loan for years. It is true that the situation makes me lose my trust in him, and I become more careful to lend money to other family members or friends.

Sure, since it is for family members or friends, we shouldn't take an interest. Even if it is for other people, I try to lend them with no interest. I don't want to be like banks, the main purpose is to help other people. I always believe that helping people shouldn't expect interest since it is not the proper way to earn money from people with financial difficulties.

1142  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The fight between Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Who you betting on? on: June 23, 2023, 08:22:49 PM
Can't believe both billionaires stepped down on their respective levels and take this challenge seriously.
Reading some related news around, Musk even wants to fight in a cage match, yes on OCTAGON lol
I'm also a bit surprised, why Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg need to have a fight like this. It is not something that is really necessary for them, it's not their usual business. It becomes more surprising when Elon Musk respond it seriously. However, I'm not sure if Elon Musk really wants the fight, I guess he's just kidding, it's like his style that everyone knows well.  Grin

If that is really serious, meaning no script or any kind of related stuff, that depends on their respective health status. Not sure about their current medical condition but of course, the younger one has the advantage here especially if physically active in their everyday routine.
I don't think it will be serious. There should be a script or the like, it won't happen like everyone expects. It is impossible for both billionaires to fight as real athletes. Anyway, Elon Musk must know that Mark Zuckerberg has the advantage. A younger age means a lot, Elon Musk will get difficulty fighting at his current age. If it is a real fight, Elon Musk probably will refuse the match due to too much age difference.

Though believed that the match won't happen for real. If happened, curious about the odds if ever bookies will even consider listing that match.
If it really happens, people should be interested to gamble on them. I'm sure the fight is probably listed on certain gambling sites.  Cheesy

1143  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 22, 2023, 08:50:46 PM
Real Madrid did not have a goal scoring problem last season, since Benzema has left there was a need to get a new striker. With long term goals, Mbappe is who they have always wanted, since he wants to move, waiting for him with Joselu is okay. In games where Joselu cannot score, players like Vini jr, Rodrygo and others can score.
Yep. You must remember when Benzema couldn't play, Real Madrid often got difficulty scoring goals. Real Madrid needs a striker that has a similar type as Benzema, a striker who has great accuracy in scoring and be active to create chances for scoring.

If you have been a long-time Madrid fan you should have understood for a long time what Peres wanted for the future of Madrid. Because so far Madrid is not in a hurry to buy, buy, and just buy. Keep in mind that compatibility is the main thing, it's useless to buy lots of players but in the end they don't match each other. Look at Chelsea who rush to buy here and there and when they find a mismatch in the end they can't solve the problem at hand. So I believe Perez is doing it very carefully and not recklessly just because the transfer window is still open.
Not in hurry??
Do you think Joselu is enough for Real Madrid striker?
Check again how many strikers Real Madrid has? After Benzema and Mariano Diaz left the club, Real Madrid has no strikers. So far, Real Madrid only signed Joselu, which means Real Madrid has 1 striker now. 1 striker isn't enough for the whole season, how if he gets injured? And what if Joselu can't play as expected? If you are a true football lover, you must understand this situation.

By the way, the situation isn't the same as Chelsea. Just look at the targetted players of Real Madrid (Mbappe, Harry Kane, Osimhen), the targeted players are proven enough in their current squad. Do you doubt Real Madrid scout?

Sure, Perez becomes more careful after some players with high prices failed to shine in Real Madrid. Hazard is one of the examples of an unsuccessful player in Real Madrid. But Ancelotti needs more strikers to compete for the titles. If Real Madrid relies on Joselu only as the main striker, I doubt Real Madrid can win any title in the next season. Sorry, it is my own perception.

Maybe you don't agree with Joselu recruitment, right? just because it doesn't mean Madrid is showing bad results? This is still the early stages of the transition, so you need to be very careful not to make a fatal decision. Florentino Perez has been monitoring Joselu for a long time and his progress will surely be monitored. Because of that Madrid dared to take it back. Even though Joselu's track record is not very good at Espanyol, because Joselu is a player from Madrid he will again show significant changes. Perez's hopes are indeed like that and hopefully, Joselu arrival will help the Madrid attack line a little, even though it is not 100% a suitable replacement for Benzema. Meanwhile, next year Mbappe is free without the need to incur large costs.
I never stated I disagree with Joselu. Check again my previous post carefully.
What I said was that Joselu isn't enough for Real Madrid stikers. Real Madrid needs 2 experienced strikers at least since they play in 3 major competitions (UCL, La Liga, Copa Del Rey). 1 striker isn't enough for the whole season. Moreover, Joselu isn't proven for competition like UCL.



Dude, are you really a Real Madrid fan?

1144  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Menghindari Kesalahan Ketika Mengikuti Hype Yang Sedang Terjadi on: June 22, 2023, 02:07:36 PM
Riset adalah bagian penting untuk ikut dalam membeli token/koin yang belum sama sekali kta dengarkan keamnananya maupun dengan potensi kelanjutan pengembangan proyek. Hal ini juga akan membantu kita menemukan proyek yang berkualtis. Sayangnya, masih banyak yang lebih mengutamakan yang penting bisa ikut proyek tertentu. Padahal dengan riset kita semua dapatikut serta proyek baru tersebut dengan baik.
Betul. Riset merupakan salah satu faktor penentu sukses atau tidaknya suatu investasi. Apalagi ini terkait koin micin, risetnya harus lebih mendalam daripada koin-koin yang sudah mapan. Koin mapan saja bisa hilang dari peredaran, terlebih lagi ini hanya koin micin. BTW, mereka yang cuman ikut-ikutan, pada umumnya minim pengetahuan mengenai crypto. Mau risetpun mereka tidak tau mau mulai dari mana dan apa saja yang perlu diriset. Mereka yakin join proyeknya karena mereka lihat banyak orang-orang yang ikutan.

Memecoin itu memang tidak bisa ditebak, belajar dari DOGE dan SHIBA, yang awal-awal diremehkan tapi pada akhirnya mengejutkan seluruh dunia.
Kalau untuk kasus Dogecoin, itu murni luck. Siapa sangka jika Elon Musk ngetweet dukungan terkait koin ini. Jika bukan dukungan Elon Musk, Dogecoin mungkin sudah hilang dari peredaran. Sedangkan Shiba Inu, koin meme ini bisa melejit karena dapat imbas dari hypenya koin Doge. Selain itu, developer Shiba Inu punya konsep yang lebih baik dari Dogecoin. Jadinya orang-orang percaya jika SHIB mungkin bisa melampaui Doge suatu saat nanti.

1145  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [TIPS] Motivasi untuk bisa naik Rank & mendapatkan bonus Merit on: June 22, 2023, 01:45:32 PM
Tapi berdasarkan saran dari temenku si lebih baik main-main di local board dan di board other. di local untuk menjalin kedekatan, di other-pun sama (karena di sana tidak masuk dalam hitungan signature). Tidak ada yang akan memberikan merit secara cuma-cuma kepada orang yang tidak di kenal.
Tidak salah jika ingin lebih aktif di board lokal, tapi bukan berarti post di board lain itu tidak baik. Kalau saya pribadi lebih memilih post di berbagai board karena kita perlu tau forum ini secara menyeluruh. Jangan lupa juga mampir di board Meta, ada banyak informasi penting terkait forum di sana. Masalah kedekatan, bisa terjalin di board mana saja asalkan kita memang proaktif. Jika kita care terhadap sesama dan mau berkontribusi positif, saya yakin akan lebih mudah untuk menjalin kedekatan dengan sesama member baik di SFI maupun di board lainnya.

Terkait merit, intinya adalah kualitas post bukan masalah kenal atau tidaknya. Walaupun kadang bisa subjektif, tidak akan ada yang mengapresiasi merit jika post yang dibuat kualitasnya buruk dan tidak informatif.

Saya liat agan sering di childboard gambling.. Ngapain gan, kebanyakan yg komentar disana cuma formalitas buat tugas signature. Kecuali agan suka dengan gambling.
Entah post untuk formalitas kampanye signature atau bukan, tidak masalah selama post yang dibuat kualitasnya baik. Yang penting tidak OOT, spam, atau plagiarism. BTW, banyak juga yang post di gambling karena memang hobi sports atau suka diskusi terkait gambling. Kalaupun mau ikut-ikutan diskusi di sana boleh-boleh saja, tidak ada larangan bagi siapapun.

1146  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: As a Gambler and a Die-Hard Fan of a Club Would you Bet Against your Club on: June 22, 2023, 10:47:58 AM
actually I don't like soccer... I saw my nephew who likes soccer even he memorized the names of club players from everywhere. borrow money from me.. even though sometimes he often loses.. but like soccer gambling habits.. he doesn't think about the risks.. most importantly he feels happy and happy.. from that I can conclude that we must be able to control ourselves from habits gamble.. don't regret it later.. money can change someone's situation
I don't really get your point.
Are you trying to tell us that betting on our favorite club is a bad habit? Or betting for entertainment purposes is the wrong way?  Huh

There is nothing wrong with your nephew when he gambles for happiness. That is good, he doesn't chase the winning or being too obsessed with the prizes. But borrowing money for gambling is he bad idea, you should stop giving him money for gambling. If he asks to borrow money, you are better to explain to him that you only have money for daily needs. You must tell him that he shouldn't gamble with loan money for safe gambling. When a gambler uses loan money for gambling, it is no longer ideal gambling. Since the main purpose is for entertainment or happiness only, he doesn't need to force himself to gamble when he has no money.

You can help your nephew to gamble in a better way!

1147  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 22, 2023, 09:35:30 AM
Yes Joselu is not enough to fill the Voids left by Benzema and i am sure the Real Madrid coach is aware. Like it is reported, i also agree that its better to wait an extra 9 months and sign Mbappe from PSG. And you never can tell, Madrid could sign Mbappe this summer too.
Ancelotti is aware of it, that's why he asked for a more striker to sign before the new season begins. But a rumor said that Perez thinks Real Madrid doesn't need more new players. I'm worried that Ancelotti may leave Real Madrid if he isn't allowed to sign a new striker. This situation is almost similar to Zidane's case, it triggered Zidane leaving Real Madrid at that time.

With Bellingham signed and modric renewed as well as kroos. I am sure Real Madrid are okay in the middle of the pack.
Real Madrid has no problem with the midfield line, they have many options there. There are many good midfielders, both old and young players. The problem of Real Madrid is in their defense and attacking lines.

joselu is a goal scorer, too, and not a bad player. He scored a few goals last season, but he is quite inexperienced in European competitions. Obviously, he is not up to the standard, and what Madrid needs is not just one average striker, but a highly rated, experienced striker who can play and promise an average of 20 to 30 goals per season, someone who can partner Vinicius properly. The two most significant strikers now on the market, Harry Kane and Victor Osimhen, will both blend in wonderfully.
Indeed. Joselu is actually a good striker, he can score many goals last season. But Real Madrid needs a striker who has a great experience in UCL, not only in the local league. Mbappe, Osimhen, Harry Kane, and Vlahovic are the strikers that will fit with the standard of Real Madrid main striker. Unfortunately, the prices of these strikers are expensive and their club managements are difficult to negotiate. They are expected to stay in their current clubs, so the chance to sign them looks a bit small.

1148  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC > 1M ? on: June 22, 2023, 06:44:22 AM
I think $1 million is a thing that will happen, many analysts believe $1 million will happen in 2 halving days i.e. 2024 and 2028, and I think it's normal that in a maximum of 10 years the price can reach $1 million, this is because of the number of active bitcoin users around the world continues to increase.
It is not impossible since Bitcoin value is always increasing from one halving to another halving. But no one knows on which halving the Bitcoin price can reach $1 million. Although there are some analysts who state that $1 million can be achieved in the next 2 halvings, I think it is purely speculation only. No guarantee for $1 million in 2028 or 2029, even Satoshi can't guarantee it. Sure, the number of people who are involved in Bitcoin keeps increasing, but it is not the only factor to trigger Bitcoin value to grow significantly. If there is much bad news in the future, the price growth can be a bit slow or even free fall. Moreover, we must have bearish seasons in the future, it is the time when Bitcoin price tends to drop.

1149  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why has Bitcoin suddenly jumped above $30,000? - 06/21/23 on: June 22, 2023, 04:11:36 AM
I red about this post here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457068.msg62437752#msg62437752 I can't really tell if it was the reason for sudden increase over 2 days to possibly hit $30k plus, on US Launching their own Cryptocurrency Exchange (Bitcoin Exchange) after several fight with other cryptocurrency exchange they decided to make their way by getting their cryptocurrency exchange. Maybe let just say, is a positive time for bitcoin price Undecided
Yep, it is a strong reason for the current pump on Bitcoin price.
Since US wants to launch its own crypto exchange, people feel optimistic again about Bitcoin future.

Anyway, we shouldn't be so surprised by the news. We can understand that US plans to have its own crypto exchange, they can take advantage of it. I'm pretty sure that there are many big whales in US, they've bought as many as Bitcoin when SEC accused some top crypto platforms. Now, they may think it is enough for entry time, it is time to boost the value of Bitcoin by spreading positive news. Let's see if the plan for the US crypto exchange is really true or not!

1150  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: June 21, 2023, 09:42:06 PM
Oh I just noticed a tweet from Fabrizio Romano that at last Ilkay Gundogan has been confirmed to sign a 2 season contract with Barcelona. This is great news for all the fans because Barcelona really need an experienced midfielder since Busquets left, so Ilkay Gundogan looks like he's worth it. So, welcome to Ilkay Gundogan.

Valid sources: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1671558716594745345?s=20

Quote
Ilkay Gündogan to Barcelona, here we go! Final approval arrived on club side to register him as new signing, green light from the player. It’s done deal, signed few minutes ago. 🚨🔵🔴 #FCB

Gündogan has agreed a two year deal valid until June 2025 with option for further year.
I can't believe that Ilkay Gündogan prefers to move to Barcelona. I'm sure Man City still expects him to stay, but he may want to have a new experience. Well, Barcelona is lucky to sign Ilkay Gündogan. He will be a great addition to Barcelona midfield line, he already contributed perfectly for Man City in the last season. I agree that he is the right player to replace Busquets. Ilkay Gündogan is an experienced midfielder, he also can function as the leader in the midfield line. Congratulations Barcelona!!

1151  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: June 21, 2023, 09:34:20 PM
Darwin Nunez was compared to Haaland. And while not scoring as many goals as Haaland, I think Darwin Nunez has the potential. He is not a worse player than Haaland. Since Liverpool's entire team was unstable. So we don't get a better performance than Darwin Nunez. If the Liverpool coach is able to stabilize the squad next season, we will probably see more goals from Darwin Nunez.
Sure, Darwin Nunez isn't a bad player. But he isn't comparable with Haaland. The number of goals means a lot, mate. It indicates how the performance of a player, especially since he is a striker (CF). You can see that the number of Nunez's goals in the last season is even not half of Haaland's total goals. Nunez's contribution to the field is also not as significant as Haaland's contribution. So, I'm not sure if Nunez has a chance to perform like Haaland in the next season. Although he is quite skillful but he doesn't have a good mentality as Haaland.

1152  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 21, 2023, 09:24:03 PM
It means if madrid already ended its transfer for this season. There's nothing that makes me feel doubt about him. Afaik, perez is always consistent with his words. Joselu is enough to replace benzema next season. His performance was amazing last season even though his team (espanyol) already relegated. There's no need to sign a new player anymore. Madrid has been doing all the things needed by the club to sign some important players.

Real madrid will keep use the same squad as like season. The only problem to find best replacement for benzema and real madrid got it from espanyol.
Joselu is not enough to replace Benzema's role. I'm not sure if Perez is really satisfied with the current squad. I've been a Real Madrid fan for a long time, as far as I know the current squad isn't the ideal squad that Real Madrid often builds for the new season. Moreover, there is still 1 striker only, if Joselu gets injured Real Madrid has no substituted striker. IMHO, Joselu is only signed for another option for the striker position. So, Real Madrid should sign 1 more striker at least, Perez still doesn't get the main striker. How can it be enough for Real Madrid?  Huh

By the way, we still have a long time for the transfer window. So, there is enough time for Real Madrid to sign other players. Moreover, Real Madrid only signs 1 top player (Bellingham). They should buy some top players in the transfer window.

1153  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I Want to Trade My House for Some Bitcoins. on: June 20, 2023, 09:59:17 PM
How many houses do you have? If you only have 1 house, it is not a good idea to sell a house for Bitcoin. It is only an innovative idea if your idea doesn't bother your life. When it makes you live without a house, I think it is a careless idea. You must know that you don't force yourself to invest in Bitcoin, just invest with the amount of money you have. Selling a house means you have no safe money for investment, you can't risk your life by selling your house for Bitcoin. Sure, Bitcoin is a good investment and we know we are heading Bitcoin halving. But we don't know when Bitcoin price to increase the price as you expect. Anyway, are you sure that you have enough knowledge to invest in Bitcoin? And are you ready to be patiently waiting for Bitcoin achieve the price you expect? You must understand that there will be many FUDs before we reach bullrun season. If you are a typical of impatient person and easily panic about the FUDs, you may fail to invest in Bitcoin.

1154  Economy / Economics / Re: Social media, now looking more for business than for socializing. on: June 20, 2023, 09:57:13 PM
Social media has now turned out to be the engine room for businesses. It is no longer socializing as it was before. Businesses are turning to social media to increase their visibility and brand recognition.

With an Android phone, a person can connect with a large global audience to promote their goods or, better yet, become a verified content creator for money. ​The amount to be earned each week from the social media accounts he or she has will depend on the number of viewers reached and the engagement generated on those pages. That can serve as a source of income for many.
Since people know how o utilize social media to be a business tool, social media is more visible as a business engine than a media for socializing. I don't think it is a problem, it doesn't mean social media lost its main function. People just become smarter to use social media for varied purposes, so we shouldn't be so surprised by the current fact on social media.

Social media enable someone to promote a product globally and with a wider range. And someone can do it himself, even from his home. So, social media basically makes it easier for everyone to do their own business.

1155  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga dan Potensi Altcoin on: June 20, 2023, 09:47:43 PM
Shiba menurut terawang saya bisa masuk dalam daftar altcoin yang punya potensi untuk miningkat bersamaan dengan altcoin lain yang lebih tua dan lebih kuat komunitasnya seperti Dogecoin.
Pada dasarnya, kita masih belum bisa memastikan beberapa jenis altcoin yang kita yakini memiliki potensi untuk meningkat ketika grafik Bitcoin mengalami peningkatan.
Ini terawangan dari sudut pandang holder Shiba?  Grin
Tiap altcoin juga punya potensi yang sama, mereka bisa saja ikut naik bersamaan koin-koin yang sudah mapan. Harusnya bisa sama-sama naik ketika altcoins season. Tapi perlu diingat bahwa Shiba ini tetaplah memecoin yang tidak tentu arahnya, beda dengan altcoin dengan fundamental kuat. Naik turun Shiba masih sangat bergantung dengan hype memecoin itu sendiri.

Selama ini saya juga belum pernah melihat efek pengaruh peningkatan Bitcoin pada Shiba layaknya altcoin seperti Ethereum.
Mungkin ketika ATH baru dicapai oleh Bitcoin, Shiba juga ikut naik.
Maksudnya ini gimana?
Apakah kalau BTC naik berarti otomatis Shiba ikut naik?
Shiba beda dengan ETH yang identik chartnya dengan BTC.

1156  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: June 20, 2023, 09:40:37 PM
Kata-katanya sih jika sudah melewati resisten $26.200. akan ada reli untuk segera meluncur ke 27K. Kemungkinan titik terendah atau bottom beberapa hari lalu telah berhasil menjerat jaring yang dipasang sehingga mantulnya cukup Indah. Namun lagi-lagi itu belum sepenuhnya aman, masih perlu melihat indikator momentum apakah market saat ini sedang overbought atau oversold, perhitungan sementara masih di wilayah abu-abu sejak april lalu.
Hari ini sah melewati $28k, cuman ini belum garansi bisa stabil di atas $27K-$28k. Kemaren-kemaren juga sempat tembus di kisaran $27k, tapi balik lagi turun ke $26k beberapa minggu ini. Namun karena ini bisa tembus ke $28k, harusnya walaupun turun paling sideways di kisaran $27k. Moga ja ini masih bisa naik lagi sampe $29k atau $30k biar nanti balik arahnya bisa tahan di kisaran $27k-$28k.

Disamping itu juga, korelasi negatif dengan S&P 500 membuat bitcoin jadi aset yang tidak bisa ditebak arahnya,~
Arahnya tetap jelas Om, selama masih ada trigger untuk next ATHnya. Karena masih ada moment BTC halving tahun depan, harusnya arahnya tidak perlu diragukan. Memang tidak ada jaminan bisa sampe $100k, tapi melewati ATH di tahun 2021 rasanya tidak sulit asalkan tidak ada perubahan signifikan di dunia crypto.  Grin

1157  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions? on: June 20, 2023, 09:29:58 PM
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them?
It depends on the nature of the addicts, egoistic addicts probably don't care about the consequences. They only think about how to get money for gambling and they just focus on chasing the winning. These types of addicts will be difficult to handle, it is because they have a complicated nature. IMO, the basic problem isn't about the addiction but it is about their nature/characteristics.

While for addicts who love their close people, I think most of them won't ruin the happiness of the people they love. They won't take the money from their close people, but they prefer to borrow money from other people.

2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling?  
If they become aware of their actions and the bad impacts, they should feel remorse. But it is not easy to make them aware.

1158  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: June 20, 2023, 09:17:45 PM
I'm sure Perez still wants to find a replacement for Benzema, so far the vacant Real Madrid shirt numbers are number nine and number twenty four. I agree with your opinion, Kane can be a short term solution and Kane's type of play is also similar to Benzema if Firmino is more of a back-up player because this year he is 32 years old. while Real madrid already has Joselu and Brahim Diaz so it's possible between Vlahovic / Osimhen.

But Imo, for Osimhen himself he can only adapt after one season at the new team, if Vlahovic can immediately adapt easily to Ancelotti's tactics. But all of this depends on whether Mbappe wants to sign a deal now or next season when the contract runs out with PSG. What is clear is that Real Madrid cannot just rely on Joselu or Alvaro Rodriguez because the Real Madrid squad now needs mature players who can be a bridge for young players.
Of course, Perez must want to sign a top striker for their main striker. After Benzema left the club and joined At Ittihad, Real Madrid has no striker. There was a rumor Real Madrid negotiating for Harry Kane, but I am not sure Real Madrid is still interested to sign him now. Recently, we heard that Tottenham management sets Harry Kane's price is about £200 million. I thik Real Madrid doesn't want to pay Harry Kane at that price, it is too expensive for 29 years old striker. Moreover, Harry Kane's market value is actually only about £90 million. It is a bit strange that Daniel Levy and Tottenham management wants £200 million for Harry Kane's transfer fees. So, Real Madrid should look for another striker, Osimhen, Vlahovic or Firmino is still available on the market. I believe these strikers will be much cheaper than Harry Kane's price (£200 million).

Check this: https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1777222/Tottenham-transfer-news-Daniel-Levy-Harry-Kane-Real-Madrid

1159  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Luck is what you need in gambling but you have to get to work with trading on: June 19, 2023, 09:59:42 PM
I have to agree that trading is not for everyone, unlike gambling that only requires luck and then you’re good to go. While in trading you need to stick with the rules and analyze the market well, and even use the best strategies that will work on your trades to ensure profitability, but in gambling everything is based on luck and chances. You may win or lose in the end, not because you have well experienced in gambling, it’s just that some might have been lucky or gone out of luck at the end of the day. That’s why some go home with huge gains while some end up losing all their funds and go home empty pocket.
Basically, trading or gambling isn't for everyone. Only people who understand trading or gambling deserve to join it. Anyway, I think it is not only about luck, here are many things to consider. In trading, it is required to have enough knowledge, skills, and experience. Without sufficient knowledge/skills, a trader can lose all their money and probably be difficult to determine the entry/exit time. So, knowledge/skills have a big role in trading. While in gambling, people need to understand how to manage their money and must have good self-control. So, they know how to spend money in gambling in the right way. And people also can avoid addiction if they have good self-control.

Well, regarding luck, it is actually not only in gambling. When people trade coins, they sometimes also rely on luck. Traders who trade without proper analysis and don't do their own research can be categorized as trading for luck. Since they just guess the price change, it is almost similar to the gambling style.  Grin

1160  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: what happened to the market today? on: June 19, 2023, 09:56:14 PM
The SEC is trying to act as an arbitrator in the cryptocurrency market, where there are no rules. Accordingly, before making such accusations, it is necessary to legislatively regulate the cryptocurrency market so that all participants can be guided in their activities by these rules.
Unfortunately, people don't want SEC to be the arbitrator. SEC seems not only acting as an arbitrator, but I think they also act as the regulator in crypto space now. They seem to have the authority for this, they don't know that crypto is a decentralized system. So, there is no need for an arbitrator or regulator. This only makes crypto market condition becomes worse, SEC activity creates big negative issues. At the end of the day, I am sure SEC main purpose is to make people afraid of crypto investment.

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