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161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][0.8.6] Hirocoin - X11 - Secured Blockchain - Time Warp Limitation - KGW on: March 26, 2014, 03:54:15 PM
The only thing that bothers me about this coins is the over 600m coins. Right now market cap is 200k, with 11m coins out there price is almost 3000. What's going to keep the price rising with so many coins yet to be mined? the price just seems really high to me considering the total coins.

There is 11m coin right now. 600m coin is in the far future. Market cap is based of current coin supply and price.  The current market cap is atrociously low when you take into consideration this is a prime destination for all the scrypt miners to come too very soon.
162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][0.8.6] Hirocoin - X11 - Secured Blockchain - Time Warp Limitation - KGW on: March 26, 2014, 03:45:10 AM
Why isn't this coin on coinmarketcap.com?
soon
163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][0.8.6] Hirocoin - X11 - Secured Blockchain - Time Warp Limitation - KGW on: March 26, 2014, 12:45:39 AM
Which are the technical differences between Hirocoin and Darkcoin, please?
Both use X11 and KGW, qt-based wallets and sph-miner ... so perhaps the secured blockchain and time warp limitation ?
Thanks in advance.

Said over and over again in the thread. Mining rewards and anonymity.


Pretty much a clone without DarkSend and DGW. A better clone with no instamining and fewer coins overall will come out and become a bigger success than Hirocoin no doubt. This coin sure brought awareness about x11 to the masses/miners though. Up until now Darkcoin was the secret hangout for them since they coded these first.
The number of coins seems to be around a soft spot. The first day of mining is explained and the only people who seemingly have a problem with it is people who came here after the price increased and they are sad they missed the boat. Those coins originally mined have been traded over and over already and are not a problem, especially since they are a drop in the bucket compared to what will be out in a few months. Which by then will be distributed even more through trading. It was 1 way to launch,  and it seems more fair than a lot of coins with success (ppc, darkcoin or dogecoin comes to mind?), and this kind of distribution prevents the coin from dying right away because of attrocious inflation.

Nonetheless, the limited amount of hate this coin has seems to be driven by the same kind of motives as litecoin. It's pointing towards success, so people are scared it's gonna dilute from their markets.

Sure but then a clone of this could come in theory and it is going to dilute this coin as well. Just the nature of the beast.
I don't think I implied anywhere that this was the last coin that's ever gonna be created.

But it's a solid one. I'm sure you don't go in every coins threads to try to lower it's value... just the ones you feel threatened by. Note, you doesn't necessarily mean you, but people who come and try to say something bad about it.
164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][0.8.6] Hirocoin - X11 - Secured Blockchain - Time Warp Limitation - KGW on: March 26, 2014, 12:16:50 AM
total market cap is still not even 100k, can easily jump to 200 or 300k when it hits a bigger exchange i guess
300k is a joke for this coin, try 3 million soon enough.
165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][0.8.6] Hirocoin - X11 - Secured Blockchain - Time Warp Limitation - KGW on: March 26, 2014, 12:16:00 AM
Which are the technical differences between Hirocoin and Darkcoin, please?
Both use X11 and KGW, qt-based wallets and sph-miner ... so perhaps the secured blockchain and time warp limitation ?
Thanks in advance.

Said over and over again in the thread. Mining rewards and anonymity.


Pretty much a clone without DarkSend and DGW. A better clone with no instamining and fewer coins overall will come out and become a bigger success than Hirocoin no doubt. This coin sure brought awareness about x11 to the masses/miners though. Up until now Darkcoin was the secret hangout for them since they coded these first.
The number of coins seems to be around a soft spot. The first day of mining is explained and the only people who seemingly have a problem with it is people who came here after the price increased and they are sad they missed the boat. Those coins originally mined have been traded over and over already and are not a problem, especially since they are a drop in the bucket compared to what will be out in a few months. Which by then will be distributed even more through trading. It was 1 way to launch,  and it seems more fair than a lot of coins with success (ppc, darkcoin or dogecoin comes to mind?), and this kind of distribution prevents the coin from dying right away because of attrocious inflation.

Nonetheless, the limited amount of hate this coin has seems to be driven by the same kind of motives as litecoin. It's pointing towards success, so people are scared it's gonna dilute from their markets.
166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][0.8.6] Hirocoin - X11 - Secured Blockchain - Time Warp Limitation - KGW on: March 25, 2014, 06:18:42 PM
are BTC withdrawals working on poloniex exchange ?

did not receive mine 15 hours after transaction. i have txid but it invisible to block explorer

https://i.imgur.com/Hq8Bgvc.png

https://blockchain.info/tx/aa9398538ee2347c2da928fa20e758177ff827bc405bd54eebc138ff70e6b179
send a ticket. They answer within the hour usually
167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][0.8.6] Hirocoin - X11 - Secured Blockchain - Time Warp Limitation - KGW on: March 25, 2014, 05:00:01 PM
Any1 need help setting up 280x or 290 or just at all

send me a PM
or post in the thread? Tongue

Please, don't.
public mining support is helpful to everyone, so yeah. .. do
168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][0.8.6] Hirocoin - X11 - Secured Blockchain - Time Warp Limitation - KGW on: March 25, 2014, 04:30:39 PM
Any1 need help setting up 280x or 290 or just at all

send me a PM
or post in the thread? Tongue
169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][0.8.6] Hirocoin - X11 - Secured Blockchain - Time Warp Limitation - KGW on: March 25, 2014, 04:06:05 PM
Guys, will anyone send me invitation to http://hiro.suchpool.pw/Wink
thanks!
join a different pool. It's to prevent pools from being too big.
170  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][0.8.6] Hirocoin - X11 - Secured Blockchain - Time Warp Limitation - KGW on: March 25, 2014, 03:08:24 PM
There is no perfect way to launch a coin (as you saw with max coin that did everything they thought would be fair and at the time everyone agreed).
To be fair, if you wanna disregard benefits for early adopters, there is: DGW at launch and 12 hours of zero reward blocks. A few coins did it (gpuc first one to come in mind) and it was the smoothest (third) launch I've seen. Everything worked perfectly.
But it made it completely useless to be an early adopter, because by the time the zero reward blocks ended the difficulty was already extremely high so it was like jumping into an already established coin.
It depends on what's the dev's priority in the end, but there is indeed a perfect way to launch a coin smoothly.
But then it's an IPO and no reward mining. ..

I'm just saying, with this type of reward (which I find to be the best in the long run), you simply cannot start with 400 coins, and then a couple thousands... in litecoin days, yes. Now, it's on an exchange instantly and people are looking to turn a quick profit,  it would destroy the coin at launch.

But I see what you mean, I just don't see it fitting.
171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][0.8.6] Hirocoin - X11 - Secured Blockchain - Time Warp Limitation - KGW on: March 25, 2014, 02:52:00 PM
premine ?
Nope, but insta-mined to shits end. Just read the first couple of pages.
If you would actually read the first few pages, you would understand why more blocks were found early on. It has nothing to do with wanting to be instamined for profits. KGW only kicked in at 15000 block on purpose, one of those purpose being with a fixed reward like this, having only a couple thousand coins the first few weeks would have been very detrimental because of artificial inflation and would have subsequently led to a crash beyond recover.

Those coins have been traded many times already during this rise and is effectively a null point at this point.

Another one of the reasons is the coin would have had a way too unstable difficulty and make miners leave right away, creating even more instability.

This was a great launch.

Disclaimer : I started mining at block 20000.
Yea, because no one would EVER rape the coin for HOURS while the diff is 0.00002 due to the WILLFUL lack of a diff retarget implementation. As I mentioned in my earlirt posts, I was solo mining multiple blocks per minute for over an hour on a card with 1.1 MH/s. Had it not been for a ~95% orphan rate, I would have accumulated MILLIONS of HIRO with no effort at all. I can only imagine what others that did not have the latency isses must have accumulated.
MILLIONS of hiro.... there's 10 millions right now. So you would have accumulated  more than 20% with 1.1mhs? Nope. And everyone had orphans.

There is no perfect way to launch a coin (as you saw with max coin that did everything they thought would be fair and at the time everyone agreed). This coin was launched with a couple perks that will help it LAST LONG AND NOT DIE to the detriment of favoring early adopters slightly. And please tell me examples where early adopters aren't favored. Do you go crying at people who bought real estate before a city boom?

A certain supply had to be in circulation, it now is, and it's a super small portion of the total and it didn't go to 1 man. So I don't really know what you want. Or anyone that cries instamine.
172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][0.8.6] Hirocoin - X11 - Secured Blockchain - Time Warp Limitation - KGW on: March 25, 2014, 02:41:48 PM
Guys, when you see DRKcoin people talking about... Hirocoin, you know something is happening:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.11040

Being a miner, I don't see myself off of X11 - no noise, no heat, no breakdowns, more profit, less energy. What else?

I'm sure many of the darkcoin miners will be jumping ship soon after they realize that this is getting more profitable and the block reward doesn't decrease with the increase in hashpower.
You can expect a portion of drk miners to do that, but above alll, hirocoin is a better destination to the gradually and exponentially increasing number of scrypt miners switching to X11. One of the reason being, you are spot on, a proved and more fair reward algorithm.

Nice hashpower by you on suprnova, btw. Cheesy How many gpu's are that?
Those are probably around 30 R9 290. A small part of my farm, the rest is solo mining for now.

Jesus Cheesy getting any blocks on the solomining?
yeah, I even find blocks fairly often with what I have on the pool (as per pool stats). Gonna switch them all soon though. Just didn't get to it.
173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][0.8.6] Hirocoin - X11 - Secured Blockchain - Time Warp Limitation - KGW on: March 25, 2014, 02:40:09 PM
Holy shit, getting 2.7MH/s on a single r9 290 overclocked to 1100/1300, cruising at 62°C AND IT'S SILENT!!!  Shocked

Welcome to Hirocoin !
Holy shit, getting 2.7MH/s on a single r9 290 overclocked to 1100/1300, cruising at 62°C AND IT'S SILENT!!!  Shocked


And save energy 40%  Grin Grin

It's far less profitable than ScryptN coins like Spain or Roto, but goddammit I love the silence, the lower power consumption and the lack of heat!  Grin
It's actually about the same right now. Right now you get about 0.01btc/mhs/day (based on scrypt speeds) mining hiro. Which is +/- 5% what you get with scrypt N.

Besides I am one of those that SCRYPT N killed GPUs.  So X11 is where I'm at even if it's -5% and not +5%.
174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][0.8.6] Hirocoin - X11 - Secured Blockchain - Time Warp Limitation - KGW on: March 25, 2014, 02:36:46 PM
Guys, when you see DRKcoin people talking about... Hirocoin, you know something is happening:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.11040

Being a miner, I don't see myself off of X11 - no noise, no heat, no breakdowns, more profit, less energy. What else?

I'm sure many of the darkcoin miners will be jumping ship soon after they realize that this is getting more profitable and the block reward doesn't decrease with the increase in hashpower.
You can expect a portion of drk miners to do that, but above alll, hirocoin is a better destination to the gradually and exponentially increasing number of scrypt miners switching to X11. One of the reason being, you are spot on, a proved and more fair reward algorithm.

Nice hashpower by you on suprnova, btw. Cheesy How many gpu's are that?
Those are probably around 30 R9 290. A small part of my farm, the rest is solo mining for now.
175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][0.8.6] Hirocoin - X11 - Secured Blockchain - Time Warp Limitation - KGW on: March 25, 2014, 02:35:32 PM
premine ?
Nope, but insta-mined to shits end. Just read the first couple of pages.
If you would actually read the first few pages, you would understand why more blocks were found early on. It has nothing to do with wanting to be instamined for profits. KGW only kicked in at 15000 block on purpose, one of those purpose being with a fixed reward like this, having only a couple thousand coins the first few weeks would have been very detrimental because of artificial inflation and would have subsequently led to a crash beyond recover.

Those coins have been traded many times already during this rise and is effectively a null point at this point.

Another one of the reasons is the coin would have had a way too unstable difficulty and make miners leave right away, creating even more instability.

This was a great launch.

Disclaimer : I started mining at block 20000.
176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KARM] Karmacoin - CoinJoint coverage - New Logo - www.ikarmacoin.com on: March 25, 2014, 02:28:46 PM
The best pool is ? .
choose any of the pools with between 10 and 20% of total hashpower.

this.

a pool with %40 hash power will find more coins faster. but it will have x100 more workers then a smaller pool

if you use a smaller pool. that pool will find blocks much slower. but once it does. it will split among less workers and this means you will get a higher chunk.

at the end of the day , either decision you make it should give you the same amount of coins. But joining the smaller pool will help prevent everyone joining one pool (%51-attack) and also will create income for the small pool and they will keep their servers running. it would suck if all pools start shutting down



This is simply not true. As long as you're mining a coin with a heavily decreasing coin-output (like Karma) or a fast growing difficulty, it's always the best solution to stay with the pool with the highest hashrate.
THAT is simply not true.

You could very well find more blocks during higher outputs and lower during smaller outputs.

Smaller pools have greater VARIANCE, which can go both ways.
177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][0.8.6] Hirocoin - X11 - Secured Blockchain - Time Warp Limitation - KGW on: March 25, 2014, 02:17:26 PM
Guys, when you see DRKcoin people talking about... Hirocoin, you know something is happening:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.11040

Being a miner, I don't see myself off of X11 - no noise, no heat, no breakdowns, more profit, less energy. What else?

I'm sure many of the darkcoin miners will be jumping ship soon after they realize that this is getting more profitable and the block reward doesn't decrease with the increase in hashpower.
You can expect a portion of drk miners to do that, but above alll, hirocoin is a better destination to the gradually and exponentially increasing number of scrypt miners switching to X11. One of the reason being, you are spot on, a proved and more fair reward algorithm.
178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][0.8.6] Hirocoin - X11 - Secured Blockchain - Time Warp Limitation - KGW on: March 25, 2014, 02:02:32 PM
what settings should I use for 3x R9 290 and for 3x R9 280x?
for 290 1000 core (or more if you want,  they can all go close to 1100) 1500 mem (maybe less, a very few can't do 1500 mem at all, so like 1450). I20 thread concurrency 24536 g1

For 280x a couple people posted not too long ago.  You can also check out
http://www.reddit.com/r/Hirocoin/comments/21859k/x11_hirocoin_darkcoin_mining_hardware_comparison/
179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][0.8.6] Hirocoin - X11 - Secured Blockchain - Time Warp Limitation - KGW on: March 25, 2014, 12:47:09 PM
Can't wait for multipools to pick up on HIC as they did with Dark.

There are two major things that are going to move the price around still coming up, one is coinmarketcap.com and the other is getting on a bigger exchange.

I hope people start seeing the pros x11 has over scrypt, don't understand why anyone else would choose scrypt over x11 nowadays.


Predictable stuff doesn't increase price as opposed to what popular opinion seems to believe.  It will be on coinmarketcap, we all know that, coinmarketcap isn't an exclusive club, there are 200 currencies there. So if WE KNOW, it isn't just magically go kaboom.

And poloniex us very well capable of handling hiro. It's not impaired by an exchange like coinedup.
180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][0.8.6] Hirocoin - X11 - Secured Blockchain - Time Warp Limitation - KGW on: March 25, 2014, 12:43:24 PM
Why am I getting this:

Fatal JSON error in configuration file.
Configuration file could not be used.


Ofcourse I had to copy paste configs from different sources here because I couldn't find the complete config for all files for 7970, so that's probably the problem  Smiley

My start.bat:

setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1

sgminer.exe --kernel darkcoin -o stratum+tcp://hiro.suprnova.cc:3313 -u xxx.xxx -p x --thread-concurrency 8192 --shaders 2048 -I 13 -g 2 -w 256 --lookup-gap 2 --no-submit-stale --auto-fan  --temp-target 74


My sgminer.conf

"xintensity" : "100",
"worksize" : "256",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "8192",
"expiry" : "1",
"failover-only" : true,
"auto-fan" : true,
"log" : "5",
"queue" : "0",
"scan-time" : "1",
"device" : "0",
"gpu-threads" : "4",
"vectors" : "1",
"shaders" : "2048",
"temp-cutoff" : "95",
"temp-overheat" : "85",
"temp-target" : "75",
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"gpu-fan" : "40-100",
"gpu-engine" : "1040",
"gpu-memclock" : "1250",
"gpu-powertune" : "20",
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
"kernel" : "darkcoin"


And BTW, the mining WORKS, i'm getting about 2.046M, I just don't know why those errors, if someone can explain?

use bat OR config.  Your bat looks better than your config so keep that one.
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