Just watched a documentary on why solar is going nowhere and it was due to the utility companies grabbing all the lobbyists and pushing costs up on solar power.
Also getting rebates cancelled in effect making it very hard to do business in solar in the States,so cheaper will not really be the answer. It has more to breaking these companies that act like the mob with their protectionist attacks.
Not a enviromentalist but these lobbyists are a dark aspect of the American government and need to be sorted.

This thinking makes little sense! You correlate paying tax to opening the door for Countries that are banning bitcoin and that is a big unknown.
What is known about government and taxes is they tend to go a little bonkers on the percentage and regulate without understanding what they are regulating.
The idea that it "will not be bad" is the same line they tell people when something bad is about to happen and they do not want you to squirm.

Taxation will not bring freedom for bitcoin to breathe as a global currency,it brings regulations!

Can you explain more on why you think taxing bitcoin equates to more people using bitcoin?

You hear this all the time and yet a lot of the American allies are vested in the USD,even China is on board!
Hard to see this developing in a fashion where we are all standing with our hands on our head puzzled about what happened.
See a gradual decline but its just to inter linked with the economy to go south quick.

But lets say it does and we have a new super power or group I would presume running the world.
The USA has served a great role and without it I suspect a lot of issues getting out of hand like the parents have gone out for the night.
Who would fill that role? I do not see Russia wanting that role but China I could see wanting the power to run more of the world.

It a great time to spread some fud if you are into that thing,people freak and sell,you buy and they jump back in and the price continues to climb.
Winning as Sheen would say and it just happens to be so easy to stimulate by using this forum or facebook.
Chase the carrot.

Personally think you should get used to using more than one. Blockchain used to be the sole one I was using till I kept running into them being down for maintenance and I start grabbing others to look into. I like mycellium for ease of use but I think its important that we try out all the wallets and find our own personal fit. Sometimes we can be quirky and find one wallet that works that others found aweful.
Going to try a new wallet soon,just to see if I like it or not.

If I catch some one up against my fence and all I see is there cellphone light,they are lucky its not a baseball bat. Maybe you have a different concept of privacy or live in tighter residences. We had a problem with crackheads,so people in the neighborhood after dark tend to get scrutiny as my backyard is a park. Dawn to dusk rules are in effect.
Honestly it was a bit creepy how many people I was finding lurking about and it sometimes looked like they where taking photos of my neighbors,so I did take interest and my neighbor closes her blinds now that I pointed it out to her.

The China story sure fluctuated the price,so we no longer need to debate if but more how many ways it can be achieved.
Disagree with the comment by Rmaqks on no one else being able to touch the price in this way and think the spring will show this with Kim Dotcom.
The pump and dump seems to be a real problem if we are attempting to look stable to non users. As long as the price is so easy to manipulate than we will not pull from those shrewd investors that need to feel safe.

I thought this fad was over,no longer seeing kids lurking around my fence like perverts. I think it was the most walking one of my neighbors ever has done in his life. Think we are better tying into virtual reality as a currency of choice rather than wasting time on a product that is here today gone tomorrow.
There are to many parties involved that have a history of not wanting to share either,so they would more likely create their own currency to compete or be the one and only.

Hate saying this but I am coming around to the belief that intelligence does not always play into this and its more a human dynamic.
The stock markets follow the same flight pattern because we have a ingrained way of perceiving potential doom. Really why a lot of us are better off letting a financial adviser handle affairs.

I know the exchanges need to show paper work regarding the KYC rules but on a person to person level there are some that will transact with you off the record. Fortunately for me there are two near me and one does this and the other I have not looked into so far.
You can always use localbitcoins as well to find people and go right around the dance altogether.
Here in Canada the government moves to slow on these types of issues and never gets their act in gear to actually write rules into law that crack down on people. Take online poker it is frowned upon by the banks but it stays in a gray neck of the woods and has been for quite some time.
I find the banks are usually the harder ones to deal with as government has a hard enough time tracking taxes and messing that up to go into other facets of potential tax earnings or regulation.
Our current Federal government also wants to look like the cool kid on the block and embracing technology is how they can talk to the young kids.
Regulating it would not be a good look for them,its more likely to be something that is thrown into a trade deal or global summit,than actual Canada coming down.

This used to be something that interested me a lot but lately it feels like you are risking more than you think. Say a site some how gets disrupted business wise and the bitcoins are snagged in a investigation,these sites do not guarantee money back. It would be similar to leaving all the bitcoin on a exchange! It could get hacked,shutdown or even run off with funds and there is no recourse.

The article was posted yesterday or the day before:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1668944.0

When I read it I thought that it could not be right myself and felt like it was some kind of story to promote speculation in some form.
Kind of odd that it is being spread around so much though when it was not long ago that people where saying they should adopt bitcoin and where not.

The point may come across extreme and its bigger for effect due to reading responses that made me think people where not coming to the table with a full grasp of what could happen. Its like the threads that ponder why a third world Country is not running to bitcoin already! Its like a bias that does not allow people that have never been persecuted in any form to be able to see the glaring issue,being that survival is the main focus. So I made the point bigger to run the view home,sometimes I am unsure as well if I am dealing with sig spammers after reading responses.

I have a view of bitcoin users and it may be biased but I think it holds true like twitter users. White males between 18-35 from middle class families. This may seem like a generalization or a attack but I often find the depth of life experience can be lacking in the responses. Meaning a life that has not fully come to fruit and is still finding its way,nothing wrong with that either. It just offers a less worldly view like the kid that thinks the world is his street.
So with that in mind I sometimes over arc the point to get people to think outside the box more when they talk about bitcoin.
So to answer the question about who I am referencing,it is the North American kid that is riding bitcoin for the thrill of fast cash.

The hope I have for bitcoin is finding a way to run outside the internet or creating our own grid. So they crack down on a section it is instantly fixed in the way the brain compensates for neurons not firing after some brain damage. Not sure if that is a good example or not.

Bolded the last part because I was frustrated by our conversation because I did think we felt the same way about this issue.
We agree up to the point that I put on my tinfoil hat and say the NWO is hard at work and active. The trade agreements between multiple countries are
well planned attacks that will fracture Countries. Companies like Google will dictate policy after they have bankrupted the governments from lawsuits.
So it is closer then I would wish and I am the paranoid sort.
You do not like my example and I can understand the view you have on it.

This is the crux of it. The switch of power would have to be gradual as the East is also highly vested in the USD and would not want to cause a ripple that could take them down at the same time. So many things revolve around the American dollar that it will be a real slow go,to the point it will not likely be in most of our lifetimes for it to be successful.

Bloomburg has been writing some real cookie cutter stories on bitcoin that show they have no understanding of it and just steal a story from another writer or pay for a identical story. Really lost a lot of faith in them with the pro Hilary stories they kept running and hard to not see them being biased in other areas as well. Now China tightening grips is always a issue and sometimes its not all as tight as they make it look from the outside. Sometimes the people have more sway than China would like to let on.

With all these trade agreements in the air needing to be signed,I find it hard to believe they are fast tracking a clamp down on bitcoin. China I can understand as the are always worried about their population getting money out of the Country into safer and less restrictive areas. But the USA will have to drag it out if they plan to clamp bitcoin,as whoever wins will have a lot of explaining to do once the daggers fully come out.

The problem I am having with this discussion is you are ignoring everything I state and coming back to the same problem you have with my response. I have explained it and you have broaden the parameters and altered what I have said to make more issue. I never used these words "Western Countries,Normal or Democratic" when I made my statement and now you are requesting me to make a list. A list only furthers the issue because you are not able to get around the example or choosing to ignore the rest of the point.

You can easily google inhumane Countries with a background for cracking the whip or history. But the problem is I see the potential for all Countries to go down that route with the growing NWO philosophy that we all need to play under one set of rules. So you have issue with my philosophy I can understand that but I do not understand the need to keep beating a dead horse.
I will mention Russia since it on topic and should be pretty obvious. Will say that the USA also tortures its people but they do it through other Countries on foreign land. But that just opens up a debate that is more politically charged and a tad off topic.

As for the second question:
Do you think Bitcoin/bitcoin was designed to outmaneuver and survive in a tyrannical country?
       Or to go further, to outmaneuver and survive in a tyrannical world?

Tyrannical Country I do see the potential,but a tyrannical world not so much.
I think bitcoin was designed to help break the serfdom of the people to the banks and in doing so free us from government control. That is the short of it but I believe the potential is far less now with so many here that are driven by greed.

Could see some one flying over to Iceland now that we have more flights heading there from Canada.
Once the upward tick of bitcoin becomes more evident the rush should happen,interesting no one has picked it up though.

Bitcoin still needs to develop more of a base and prove it is more than a attraction for people that like to gamble on it one form or another.
The social movement towards developing countries could use a lot less paper work and more boots on the ground and agree blockchain rather than bitcoin can actually help stream line the money to show where every nickle is going.
The top donation organizations will fight this due to being top heavy,its really quite disgusting how little makes it to the targeted Country.

Social activism will be hard thing to push from within the bitcoin community and think you need to reach from outside it to push more social change. The foundation we have is mostly built around greed and self preservation,at least that is the loudest barking dogs on the forum.

The only real issue for me as to why it is not a universal currency is that its tied frequently to the USD and that is done for a lot of things but it would be nice to see some separation from it as well.
Its used everywhere,so it is global in my books,but you could argue the USD is also a global currency.