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1621  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / does buying a mining setup now make it so that 6 months from now you make zero? on: November 14, 2017, 12:27:41 AM
alright, case in point here:  I see a lot of the old mining setups can't make any money at this point because the difficulty increased.  many of them lose money trying to mine.

so if I buy a setup now for x2 the regular price, that would take me six months to make the investment back.  Wont difficulty be much higher in six months, and possibly zero profits?

alternately buy it for regular price on Bitmain and wait a few months for delivery (but for some reason none of my orders will go through and show their payment address - opened a support ticket)

so just wondering.  is it common for people to invest into mining only to find that they've lost money by the time they get to mining?  Undecided
1622  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Bitcoin Mining Hardware [Antminers: S9/D3/L3+] [Graphics Cards] [Wallets] on: November 14, 2017, 12:22:04 AM
ROFL L3+ from 1399 EUR cheaper than manufacturer  Grin

I want to buy 100 pieces please but payment by escrow from a well known escrow-forum member.

You must be mistaken, the price is not cheaper than the manufacturer.

Have you forgotten the price of Bitmain is in USD?

We won't accept a normal member to be a middleman. The only option to verify our legitimacy is for a Dutch resident to visit our office.

no escrow?  no interest.  Roll Eyes

That's your right and we completely understand. We hope that a Dutch resident from Bitcointalk will come visit our office soon to verify our legitimacy.

why not just do escrow?  let someone send the funds through escrow, you ship the product, escrow person releases it.  there's a ton of trusted people on here, minerjones being a great one. 
1623  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTB] Antminer L3, x2 on: November 14, 2017, 12:21:13 AM
Where are you located ?

US, Florida, specifically.

are you looking for brand new or used miners?


either.  but if used, how used?  still in warranty?  or out of warranty, no issues?  any type of guarantee it works?
1624  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: How much heat does the Antminer L3 put out? Can I run in my office? on: November 14, 2017, 12:06:45 AM
ASICS machines (and pretty much all computer components) generate heat at basically the same rate as a similar wattage space heater. So the L3+ (assuming you mean the current line) will put out around 800W of heat at stock settings. You can under or overclock it for more or less. Keep in mind it is continuous though, so if you have a small office it'll get stuffy pretty quick.

The bigger concern with the L3+ is sound. The cooling blades are set up in a way that the fans, while a bit loud in and of themselves, sound like a vacuum cleaner or jet engine when running at full blast. I built a sound dampening box for mine and ducted the exhaust up from my basement to provide heat. I can still hear it faintly through the box and my floor. I highly suggest checking one out or looking at online videos to get an idea.

If you want a space heater that generates a little money, the S3 is a better choice; it is MUCH quieter and overclocked generates between 400-500W relatively stably. You won't turn much of a profit, but it'll likely cover the increase in electric cost. Or you can pick up and mod an S5 with quieter fans, that'll earn you a bit. But honestly, if you want to spend on a space heater that will still make you money, the R4 is the best choice, you can still find them used for around $3k...

thanks for that.  I was thinking it wouldn't be *that* loud, guess that's not the case lol.  
unfortunately those models show I wouldn't be making too much money, some of them at a loss
1625  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: How much heat does the Antminer L3 put out? Can I run in my office? on: November 14, 2017, 12:04:15 AM
Or do you think my office is going to be consistently 90 degrees?  I wanted to run two of them.

What about venting?  Do I NEED to vent the hot air?  Or is that just to cool the room down and doesn't affect the unit if the room is warm?

Thanks for your help folks  Grin

Cool deal, good luck man. They put out 250 cfm each, but a 6" HVAC tube similar to your dryer hose will work to route it where you want it to go. Free heating during winter though.
If it bothers you, box fan in the window pulling air or inline fan for pushing it out.

Good luck!

thanks man.  I was actually considering putting them in the laundry room and trying to somehow piggyback off of the laundry exhaust duct - have the antminers exhaust run into the same as the dryer's.  no clue if that would work, or how to do it, but was an idea, especially since that's probably the area I'm now going to be putting them in, since it's closest to our router.
1626  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Bitcoin Mining Hardware [Antminers: S9/D3/L3+] [Graphics Cards] [Wallets] on: November 13, 2017, 11:56:04 PM
ROFL L3+ from 1399 EUR cheaper than manufacturer  Grin

I want to buy 100 pieces please but payment by escrow from a well known escrow-forum member.

You must be mistaken, the price is not cheaper than the manufacturer.

Have you forgotten the price of Bitmain is in USD?

We won't accept a normal member to be a middleman. The only option to verify our legitimacy is for a Dutch resident to visit our office.

no escrow?  no interest.  Roll Eyes
1627  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTB] Antminer L3, x2 on: November 13, 2017, 11:55:09 PM
Where are you located ?

US, Florida, specifically.
1628  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTB] Antminer L3, x2 on: November 13, 2017, 11:45:30 PM
I can do 2 at $3500 each with Sidehack PSUs. Escrow via PhillipM is ok.

edit.  thought you said 2 for $3500. 

cant do $3500 each.

I'd go as high as $2200 each.
1629  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: SELLING ANTMINER D3, L3+, NANO LEDGER S --- IN HAND, IN CANADA!!! on: November 13, 2017, 11:24:32 PM
still have them?  I'm interested
1630  Economy / Computer hardware / [WTB] Antminer L3, x2 on: November 13, 2017, 11:22:32 PM
Looking to pick up two of them.  Please let me know if someone has any for sale.
1631  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: How much heat does the Antminer L3 put out? Can I run in my office? on: November 13, 2017, 11:12:15 PM
I do not know the temp output but I refer to my small miners as heaters, one more consideration would be the noise produced, and you want two units?

You could always build a vented and soundproofed space, but only tackle this if you have a good hands on know how.

Hmm. what about just using the garage?  Think I could still pick up a wifi signal with a range extender?

I would use cable instead of WIFI.

you mean like a direct connection to the router?
1632  Economy / Service Discussion / [BITMAIN ORDER ERROR?] Cannot find their address to send funds? on: November 13, 2017, 10:59:18 PM
anybody know?

the address does not show up on the final checkout page.  And if I choose the payment method and click submit, it says; 

unknown error:  connect to 47.91 failed:  connection refused

has anyone seen this error before?  what do I do?
1633  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / trying to place an order on Bitmain and it's saying "refused", anyone know? on: November 13, 2017, 10:53:14 PM
anyone know what I'm suppose to do?

It says they only accept BCH.  So I choose BCH from payment method, no address comes up to send the funds to.

Then when I click "submit" at the bottom, it just says:  unknown error:  connect to 47.91 failed:  connection refused

How do I find out the address to send the order's funds to?  Huh
1634  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: How much heat does the Antminer L3 put out? Can I run in my office? on: November 13, 2017, 10:32:26 PM
I do not know the temp output but I refer to my small miners as heaters, one more consideration would be the noise produced, and you want two units?

You could always build a vented and soundproofed space, but only tackle this if you have a good hands on know how.

Hmm. what about just using the garage?  Think I could still pick up a wifi signal with a range extender?
1635  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] Comic, Star Wars #1, 1977, CGC 9.8 Graded on: November 13, 2017, 10:31:05 PM
@KillYou72 No, Einstein. I wanted to pay 0.2BTC with a guarantee that feedback will be left after I purchase. I will do the same for him. I'm tired of buying things on BCT and nobody leaving feedback...

oh Smiley

my problem with it is I'm taking a big loss, I bought it before Force Awakens came out and paid $2200  Undecided

Would you go .225BTC ?

And yes I would leave feedback as well.
1636  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Is there somewhere I can pick up an Antminer L3 that will ship today? on: November 13, 2017, 10:12:17 PM
preferably without paying double price on ebay?  Bitmain delivery time is after Christmas.  Anybody know of anywhere else?
1637  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / How much heat does the Antminer L3 put out? Can I run in my office? on: November 13, 2017, 10:08:07 PM
Or do you think my office is going to be consistently 90 degrees?  I wanted to run two of them.

What about venting?  Do I NEED to vent the hot air?  Or is that just to cool the room down and doesn't affect the unit if the room is warm?

Thanks for your help folks  Grin
1638  Economy / Goods / [WTB] Antminer L3 (in hand) on: November 13, 2017, 09:30:25 PM
I know I can buy them on Bitmain, but it says shipping is late December.  Anyone have one for sale that's in hand and ready to ship?  Grin

happy to pay in BTC
1639  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] Comic, Star Wars #1, 1977, CGC 9.8 Graded on: November 13, 2017, 08:33:03 PM
Not trying to lowball. Lemme know if you'll get rid of it for 0.20/trust feedback. Thanks in advance!

you mean .20 btc with trust feedback?

Say hello to the red trust, I cant believe someone would say that... Nothing surprises me now a days

I don't get it.  So he wants to give me negative trust feedback in exchange for .20 BTC plus my comic?  I have zero interest in that.   Roll Eyes
1640  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / I just found this old thread and almost puked - selling 15K bitcoins for $.20 on: November 13, 2017, 08:25:17 PM
WOW.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1303.0

crazy time.  Wish I had been here in 2010 lol
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