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1641  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Trust will kill bitcoin | Bloombergview on: July 17, 2014, 03:31:31 PM
None of Bitcoin's recent troubles -- technological glitches and the collapse of the biggest cryptocurrency exchange, MtGox, the departure of key figures from the Bitcoin Foundation -- have struck me as terminal. Now, though, I'm starting to think Bitcoin needs trust to survive -- a potentially fatal flaw for the virtual currency.

To cryptocurrency enthusiasts, "trust" is a dirty word. "We have proposed a system for electronic transactions without relying on trust," Satoshi Nakamoto wrote in the original manifesto proposing the decentralized currency. That's what made the system better than traditional fiat money: It purported to make sure, as a matter of technology, that transactions would be carried out as intended and without the costs associated with the presence of a trusted middleman, such as a bank, in any traditional payment system.

Then, last month, a mining pool -- an association of people who own specialized hardware that produces Bitcoins by running specific mathematical operations -- gained a 51 percent share of computing power used in currency production. That gave it the power to reverse transactions, to pay twice with the same Bitcoins, and to delay or even cancel other people's transactions. The pool was GHash.io, run by a secretive U.K.-incorporated outfit called CEX.io, which came close to topping the 51 percent mark in January. Back then, it promised not to do that: "GHash.io will take all necessary precautions to prevent reaching 51% of all hashing power, in order to maintain stability of the Bitcoin network," the pool said in a statement.

Bitcoin transactions are recorded in the block chain, a kind of public register. Transactions are broadcast and validated by other users. A group with more than half of the system's mining power can change, duplicate and stop transactions; even if every other user joined forces, they'd have insufficient resources to prevent the abuses.

Now, weeks after that promise was shattered, GHash is making new ones. "If GHash.io approaches the respective border, it will be actively asking miners to take their hardware away from Ghash.io and mine on other pools," it said in a fresh communication.

In other words, the stability of the electronic currency and all the infrastructure that has grown around it in the past five years -- at least $240 million worth of it in venture capital investment alone, most of it made last year -- now depends on the goodwill of a few people whose names nobody knows. "Jeffrey Smith" -- the name used by GHash.io's only spokesman -- is likely a pseudonym.

There's no guarantee that a certain group of people doesn't control more than 51 percent of Bitcoin emission even now: GHash.io has 39 percent, but another 17 percent is ascribed to "unknown" pools by Blockchain.info, the best source on mining-pool shares.

These unknowns are unlikely to undermine the ecosystem they inhabit; cryptocurrency enthusiasts' self-interest is probably what has has sustained Bitcoin through all its tribulations. I'm not willing, however, to ignore the risk that a group of people who won't even tell me who they are might take the money and run.

Trusting them would be akin to acknowledging them as the system's central bank, something Nakamoto emphatically didn't want it to have. Paradoxically, it's easier to trust central banks that print fiat money, because the people in charge and their interests and motives are more or less known, or at least are the subject of much study and speculation.

Gavin Andressen, Bitcoin Foundation's chief scientist, who typically downplays the currency's technological shortcomings, wrote last month that GHash.io's dominance wasn't "disastrous" because its advantage wasn't easy to misuse. He added, however, that "Bitcoin is still a work in progress, and you should only risk time or money on it that you can afford to lose."

To anyone who sees value in the technology suggested by Nakamoto, and expects it to eventually be adopted by governments and firms to create frictionless payment systems, this means Bitcoin should not be treated as a currency but rather as a complex real-world experiment that may lead to different outcomes. Those who participate with the goal of making money are only providing data for researchers and funding their work. They may or may not be rewarded for their interactions: It's a matter of trust.
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1647  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / GHash Commits to 40% Hashrate Cap at Bitcoin Mining Summit #ghash #summit on: July 17, 2014, 08:10:48 AM
A summit meant to address the threat of 51% attacks against the bitcoin network has resulted in a renewed industry commitment to protecting the digital currency’s transaction processing network from majority control by any one entity.

Organized by controversial bitcoin mining pool GHash.io and held as scheduled following the most recent CoinSummit London conference, the meeting involved representatives from notable bitcoin companies such as enterprise mining services provider Peernova, mining hardware manufacturers KnCMiner and SpoondliesTech and the Bitcoin Foundation, as well as other key members of the bitcoin community.

According to documents obtained by CoinDesk, all participants agreed that the consolidation of mining power – and the associated threat of 51% attacks – is something that all parties have a vested interest in avoiding. Participants further concluded that short-term remedies are best suited until a permanent fix is discovered and implemented.

Notably, GHash.io, one of the largest mining pool operators in the ecosystem, has agreed to do all it can to limit its share of the total bitcoin network to 39.99%. This includes asking miners to shift hashing power away from their pools when the hash rate reaches that amount.

A policy of this kind will be recommended to all operators within the bitcoin mining ecosystem.

Though the findings stop short of a conclusive solution, GHash CIO Jeffrey Smith said that temporary ways to mitigate the risk of a 51% attack are the right choice at this time, saying:

“None of the existing technical solutions against the 51% attack threat is able to solve the problem in a long-term perspective, taking into account interests of existing mining pools, individual miners and bitcoin community. Thus, bitcoin adherents should focus on temporary acts until the lifetime solution is found.”

The company has taken steps in recent months to assuage community concerns about any role it could have in a 51% attack. In June, the company declared in a statement that it supports decentralization within the mining network and would never participate in fraudulent behavior.

Action committee to commence

Though no lasting solution was found for the 51% threat, the summit did result in a framework that could help the bitcoin industry work toward an eventual solution.

A new committee is expected to be organized by GHash.io and its digital currency exchange arm, CEX.io, that direct funds and coordinate efforts on a permanent means to address the problem. The funds will provide a vehicle for “accelerating and motivating developers to find a technical solution to the 51% threat by accumulating funds and directing them to this process”.

The document reads:

“The committee will drive closer communication and cooperation between developers working on the bitcoin protocol and solving the 51% issue, and businesses, highly interested in expanding the industry and promote bitcoin to a broader audience.”

GHash.io and CEX.io will manage the committee, which will consist of representatitves of pool operators, bitcoin companies and other members of the mining community. According to the document, those who attended the summit in London are expected to continue developing a structure for the committee in the months ahead.

Bolstering network confidence

The threat of a 51% attack – the theoretical power of one entity within the bitcoin network to successfully broadcast fraudulent transactions and disrupt legitimate ones – has long been a source of concern for some members of the bitcoin community.

Some of the fear has been directed at GHash.io itself. This owes to the pool’s outsized hashing power, which some are worried could be used to manipulate transactions in the network. Others who attended the meeting characterized it as an informal effort to open up lines of communication between interests in the space.

BitGo co-founder and CEO Will O’Brien told CoinDesk that one of the outcomes of the meeting is that the community itself needs to play a role in finding a solution. O’Brien told CoinDesk:

“It’s incumbent upon the industry leaders themselves to make changes that build confidence among the broad bitcoin community, investment community, and the press. We cannot and should not rely on one or more trade organizations to set the rules. Bitcoin is decentralized, and we must build solutions that support that original framework of decision-making.”

Peter Todd was less convinced that the meeting had a decidedly positive outcome. He remarked that the gravity of the situation – both in the short-term and in the long-term – may not be fully appreciated by the GHash.io leadership, saying:

“Talking to the community is a great first step. That said I didn’t get the impression that GHash.io really understood the magnitude of the problem. In particular, they seemed much more focused on getting the bitcoin community to trust them, rather than putting themselves in a position where we don’t have too.”

He noted that a particularly damaging impact of the centralization of hashing power is a growing fear among investors about the ramifications of a potentially monopolized network.

Todd told CoinDesk that the issue poses a “serious long-term obstacle to investment”, but pointed to efforts to develop solutions that he said were promising. Only funding and support, he concluded, will determine how quickly and successfully a fix to the 51% vulnerability is created.

Peernova president Emmanuel Abiodun said that, ultimately, the cooperation that began in London will lead to greater transparency in the mining space and a push toward more decentralization. He also said that a new mining pool being developed by Peernova would abide by a similar cap like the one being sought by GHash.io.

He told CoinDesk that it’s a matter of ensuring the transaction network remains healthy, saying:

“The hundreds of millions of dollars being put into bitcoin by VCs are worth peanuts if we do not have the secure infrastructure miners are putting into place today. VCs need to engage more with miners and not make the same mistakes that were made in the video streaming industry in taking infrastructure for granted.”

Industry-wide issue develops

Members of the bitcoin community have been clamoring for a fix to both the risk of a 51% attack and the conglomeration of hashing power around several large operations. By limiting itself to just below 40%, GHash.io is acknowledging the need to address what has been called by many a growing problem for the network’s long-term health.

The summit – and the proposed committee – also demonstrates a willingness to engage among the bitcoin industry’s major players. As well, the presence of bitcoin core developers and companies outside of the mining sector will no doubt enhance the profile of efforts to develop a fix to the 51% attack issue.

GHash.io, as well as other summit attendees, have called on the community as a whole to help realize a solution to the problem. The group has asked for companies to take part in the proposed committee as well as assist in funding research and development that enhances the security of the bitcoin network.

Still, the topic has been much debated in the industry, with some contending that no solution needs to be found to the 51% attack risk.

For more on this issue and its implications for bitcoin

Source "http://www.coindesk.com/ghash-commits-40-hashrate-cap-bitcoin-mining-summit/"
1648  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Israel Bitcoin Conference July 28-29, 2014 on: July 16, 2014, 06:58:39 PM
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1649  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Israel Bitcoin Conference July 28-29, 2014 on: July 16, 2014, 06:43:50 PM
Protest Israel for killing of innoncent peoples of Palestines.
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1651  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Google adds Bitcoin exchange rates to instant search answers #goodnews #google on: July 16, 2014, 05:23:39 PM
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1652  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Google adds Bitcoin exchange rates to instant search answers #goodnews #google on: July 16, 2014, 05:16:11 PM
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1653  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Google adds Bitcoin exchange rates to instant search answers #goodnews #google on: July 16, 2014, 04:04:41 PM
Bitcoin continues its march into the mainstream with yet another big name thinking the crypto-
currency is worth its attention. This time, however, it's not a retailer agreeing to accept Bitcoin, but
Google integrating Bitcoin into its instant answers.
If you want to find out how much 20 bucks will currently get you in Bitcoin, just type in "20 USD in
BTC" (or speak it using Google Now) to get the answer. Google's currency exchange feature allows you
to mix and match any currencies you want. If you've got an Italian vacation coming up and want to
know how many Euros a Bitcoin will get you, Google can help.
Bing actually beat Google to the punch on this one and has supported Bitcoin exchange rates for some
time. But with Google owning close to 70 percent of the U.S. search market, Google's acceptance puts
Bitcoin exchange rates in front of a much larger audience.
Bitcoin rising
Google is yet another large organization to support Bitcoin in some manner. The search giant has yet
to accept Bitcoin as a payment method through its online stores such as Google Play, but other
retailers are lining up to accept Bitcoin.
The most recent online shop was Newegg, which began accepting Bitcoin earlier in July. Other
prominent companies such as Dish , Expedia , Overstock , and TigerDirect are also taking Bitcoin
payments.
In late January, online finance management service Mint.com allowed its users to add their Bitcoin
stash to their investment portfolios. Meanwhile, the Internal Revenue Service said in March that it
would tax Bitcoin as property and not currency.
More recently, the State of California removed a ban against alternative payment methods giving
Bitcoin and other virtual currencies a legitimate entry into America's largest regional economy.
But not everyone is sure what to make of Bitcoin. The European Banking Authority is still figuring out
how to deal with the virtual currency, and only recently Russia softened up on its Bitcoin crackdown.

source "www.pcworld.com/article/2454294/google-adds-bitcoin-exchange-rates-to-instant-search-answers.html"
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