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1661  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Looking For Truly Knowledgeable Individuals For CC Article Interview on: July 17, 2014, 03:49:51 PM
A reporter is doing a story on the proliferation of  alternate crypto-currencies, and the future of alts in general, if you are interested in being interviewed on the record (real name and phone interview) let me know immediately so that I could pass your info to him.

You must be seriously into alternate CC (min 10 hrs a week engagement), this would be an excellent opportunity for community leaders to speak intelligently about their respective coins, and CC industry in general.

A reporter for which publication?
Some blog writers have been known to call themselves journalists.  Cool

Associated Press (AP)

can't get more legit than that, especially on the worldwide stage


Being a stringer for AP myself, I've never heard of AP reporters outsourcing interview subjects or sources to a third party.
So pinch of salt and all that.


your profound skepticism is noted, please also note that skepticism without cause is needless disruption


You could've ended with the first part of the sentence, and I would've had no reason to post again.
Instead, you chose to end it with a throwaway insult.
Of course there is reason to be skeptical here, of all places! Only a fool would think otherwise. This is Bitcointalk.
You seriously expect no skepticism by leading us to believe that you are an intermediary for an AP reporter?
An AP reporter that lacks the basic ability to find a proper and reputable source from the cryptosphere?
Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds to me? And you dare call my light questioning disruption?
If said person exists, let's hope his/her editor never come across this thread.

I could have ended it any way I wished, and you to could have not started the misplaced prejudice to begin with. 

Your skepticism wasn't to advance knowledge but rather to test integrity, your line of questioning was an attack based on preconceived notions (as indicated above).   

As for "cause" foolish reasoning isn't cause, cause should be rational, reasonable, and responsible all of which were absent from your causal argument.   

The simple fact is your prejudice was unjustified, and your reasoning is for attempting to cause unjustified alarm was irresponsible.

As for anyone seeing this thread, it's a public thread created in a public forum for public consumption, it supposed to be seen.



   

1662  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Looking For Truly Knowledgeable Individuals For CC Article Interview on: July 17, 2014, 01:35:20 PM
if they have journalistic freedom they should talk to us, regarding decentralized economics, though i doubt that.

call me a skeptic.

here is my blog for "knowledgeable knowledge "

http://kolinevans.wordpress.com/

that's some serious knowledge there, perhaps a bit more than most outside of the CC industry could appreciate, hopefully when you share your message you will be mindful of them




well its only the future of human monetary systems (and by extension) generally humanity , at stake so, I mean....i'm open to advice,  maybe I could jazz it up with some of house music?

rainbow pattern?

"everything is awesome !"  < (lego movie. )

unfortunately though crypto currency does touch on economics somewhat.

but we can totally dumb it down !

"Everything is awesome !"


hahahahaa, your blog is 'CC pro talk to CC pro players' which is great for insiders,  but well over the heads of 99.999% of everyone outside of the CC industry, even finance and eco pros ... do as you wish it's your message.

1663  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Looking For Truly Knowledgeable Individuals For CC Article Interview on: July 17, 2014, 01:01:11 PM
if they have journalistic freedom they should talk to us, regarding decentralized economics, though i doubt that.

call me a skeptic.

here is my blog for "knowledgeable knowledge "

http://kolinevans.wordpress.com/

that's some serious knowledge there, perhaps a bit more than most outside of the CC industry could appreciate, hopefully when you share your message you will be mindful of them




I love yabbering on about cc.

For my baby intro. Google the state of alternative cryptocurrency -NobleCoin, It's entry level.

My twitter is @NobleCoin

My personal email is info@jasonlcurby.com. Jason Curby on linkedin.

I understand the scams through and through and trade (but not promote/market BS) pumps myself often. However I also think altcoins will evolve to be much bigger than that and more than many people give them credit.

A lot of people dont like what I say. A lot do. But it's good material either way. I also dont mind if its AP, gov study or a smalltime interviewer working from home. I wont be a salesman for my coin though if were talking altcoins.

Your weekly requirement is my daily minimum. I trade, build, promote, plan & discuss CC fulltime.

Good luck either way.


that's the type of CC pro I expected to find






A reporter is doing a story on the proliferation of  alternate crypto-currencies, and the future of alts in general, if you are interested in being interviewed on the record (real name and phone interview) let me know immediately so that I could pass your info to him.

You must be seriously into alternate CC (min 10 hrs a week engagement), this would be an excellent opportunity for community leaders to speak intelligently about their respective coins, and CC industry in general.

A reporter for which publication?
Some blog writers have been known to call themselves journalists.  Cool

Associated Press (AP)

can't get more legit than that, especially on the worldwide stage


Being a stringer for AP myself, I've never heard of AP reporters outsourcing interview subjects or sources to a third party.
So pinch of salt and all that.


your profound skepticism is noted, please also note that skepticism without cause is needless disruption

1664  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Looking For Truly Knowledgeable Individuals For CC Article Interview on: July 17, 2014, 04:44:29 AM
Try contacting some reputable and or coin creators. I'm sure they know a awful lot and could be a entertaining watch.


This thread is the full extent of this invitation. developers and community leaders have got to see this as an opportunity for the advancement of their coin, and the CC industry.


A few months ago New York State had hearings regarding Cryptocurrency regulation, of course most of the industry was against it because we don't want governmental interference but when we saw only a hand full of pros some of which with an extremely limited knowledge based 'representing' the CC industry it was hard to believe. 
[view the youtube videos of the hearings]. 






 


A reporter is doing a story on the proliferation of  alternate crypto-currencies, and the future of alts in general, if you are interested in being interviewed on the record (real name and phone interview) let me know immediately so that I could pass your info to him.

You must be seriously into alternate CC (min 10 hrs a week engagement), this would be an excellent opportunity for community leaders to speak intelligently about their respective coins, and CC industry in general.

A reporter for which publication?
Some blog writers have been known to call themselves journalists.  Cool

Associated Press (AP)

can't get more legit than that, especially on the worldwide stage




  
1665  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Looking For Truly Knowledgeable Individuals For CC Article Interview on: July 16, 2014, 09:36:31 PM
A reporter is doing a story on the proliferation of  alternate crypto-currencies, and the future of alts in general, if you are interested in being interviewed on the record (real name and phone interview) let me know immediately so that I could pass your info to him.

You must be seriously into alternate CC (min 10 hrs a week engagement), this would be an excellent opportunity for community leaders to speak intelligently about their respective coins, and CC industry in general.



 

1666  Economy / Service Discussion / Mintpal Returned Two Of My Deposits on: June 28, 2014, 07:46:15 PM
I directed funds from two different coins to be deposited to our Mintpal account, after about 40mins I was told there were no confirmation for either deposit, so I completed a ticked.   within the next hour Mintpal returned both deposits, but didn't indicate why they were not honored.

I see no tweets or general announcement about deposit issues, and received no comprehensive response to our ticket so I am refraining for resending until I get some official word.

Has anyone else experienced this in the past day?

1667  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Best exchange for daytrade? on: June 28, 2014, 07:38:05 PM
Howdy!

What's the best exchange for daytrade? Have around 50 BTC to play with. Should I go for highest 24h volume? Can I trust Bitfinexs volume?

Thanks

Just send the first 50 people that reply 1 BTC each instead.

Why? Because if you daytrade it, it'll be gone inside of a year.



I think you are really stoned and trolling much at the moment.


What he told you is very true; even though it was provide in a crude way.  Yip Yip said the very same thing in a very diplomatic way.


Here's my advice, have an exit strategy,  1 exit tactic for a trade, 1 exit tactic for a position, and 1 exit tactic for the day. 
You have got to know when to pull-out of a bad trade, when to stop feeding a bad position, and when to quit trading for the day;
without a comprehensive exit strategy for loss you will go the way of 97% of daytraders -- to a day job.

1668  Economy / Auctions / Re: $10 USA iTunes Gift Card ... #1 on: June 22, 2014, 01:46:12 PM
$3 per card for all the cards.


Thanks for your offer I think I will just do the redeeming work in-house since it will cost us about the same as selling them at a huge loss

So with that the bidding is over, please do not submit any new bids.

1669  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EMC2] Einsteinium | Funding the future with the future of currency on: June 16, 2014, 08:29:55 AM


First off, my official mandated duty is oversee all things EMC2. As of right now, the value of EMC2 is too low to cash out on the markets and spend "money". I am however willing to offer bounties for new objectives which I though it what your board was supposed to be voting on. Where is your meeting place to become "elected"? Where do your discussions and voting take place? Also, being lead of the foundation and coin, I will mandate myself for official duties. What promises were made? Thanks Armis.

ahumanbeingx, is there any particular reason you didnt put yourself forward for a position on the board while the elections were still open?

Secondly, in view of the fact the value of EMC2 plummeted under the 'leadership' of the old foundation (of which you were a member), I'm curious as to how you being a member of the new foundation would be in the interests of EMC2 (ignoring the fact you hold some of the original pre-mine)?



#1. The "Elections" for ECAP or the new community foundation effort were never officially sponsored for the creators of EMC2. Also, the election process took place over a few days at a point that I was out travelling.

#2. The value plummeted because of big money holders cashing out due to the slander of ex-team member. Other members who felt closer with Science instead of cryptoGames decided not to keep playing along. I am now stepping up from an extremely minimal role in the coin to usher in some new changes, updates, and systems of donation. I've also began to boost the price on poloniex with small buy walls which is why the value has began to rise over the past week. I've now pulled that buy support to see what effect the community effort is having.

#3. There is no pre-mine.





 Shocked

hey guys , you never buy under 80sat at mintpal, dont try to break, if break , i add more dont forget.

I may create more buy support between 90 - 100 soon just to keep things active and pickup cheap coins from dumpers. Other than that, my focus has been on adding some community supported features and tools before putting all my efforts into a new system for donating to science.

first we support to pirce up, than stable the price over 400sat and than we donate science projects, but not with emc2 coin  just pay by dollar.

i can do thiss. community and devs are not interesting me. i love this coin, and i can buy %25 of coin supply, let them sell, at these cheap prices. dont make anything, i am just collecting Smiley


Sir, I am the lead dev and I am very interested in what you have to say. Please PM me and we will talk details.


 Shocked
1670  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EMC2] Einsteinium | Funding the future with the future of currency on: June 15, 2014, 05:52:58 PM
Essokinesis:

~93% of EMC2's value was lost in 2 months at the hands of The Einsteinium Foundation, over that time it was clear to many (perhaps even to many within that foundation) that they didn't know what they needed to know to get EMC2 going in the right direction.  

The nose dive stopped when The EMC2 Foundation election results were certified.   EMC2 market value started its climb as The EMC2 Foundation was forming, I don't see that as coincidental.  

I realize that you are aligned with The Einsteinium Foundation as one of the ops at the #EinsteiniumFoundation IRC Channel, so I expect you to be zealous in their defense,  however do you want to go back to the nose-dive state we were in?

Your relentless push to have EMC2 owners move from this forum to IRC likely contributed to the dilution of interest in the coin and the accelerated devaluation of the coin in those last days.  The same rational applies to EMC2 being on so many exchanges, the volume simply dosen't warrant it, the dilution of interests hurt the coin.   Sometimes too much is too much.
1671  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EMC2] Einsteinium | Funding the future with the future of currency on: June 15, 2014, 01:57:31 PM
Armis, I still feel the name of the committee should change the name to be a bit less confusing for our supporters. That is primarily because "EMC2" IS Einsteinium and there is already the "Einsteinium Foundation". If you would like some suggestions on a new name for the community effort I could help out.

I agree.. they usually call that kind of group an Advisory board or something similar.

most governments around the world have Executive and Legislative branches.
most large companies have something similar, a Board of directors a Shareholder advocacy/activist group.

it seems like that is what we are aiming for here so lets make the naming clear and easy for people to understand.


Alphi  and ahumanbeingx

1) The EMC2 Foundation is a foundation created by the owners of EMC2 for the EMC2 investor community
2) The EMC2 Foundation has a duly elected board birthed from the community.  An election noticed to the community for participation.  
3) The EMC2 Foundation reserves the right to name itself, if either of you want to head up a 'EMC2 renaming committee' you are invited to apply for chairmanship of that committee.   If you do, here's my suggestion for the new name, "The NEW Foundation"
4) The foundation names have nothing to do with the devaluation of EMC2 over the past two months, however the efforts of The EMC2 Foundation (aka The NEW Foundation) has put a halt to the nose dive.   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=494708.msg7222101#msg7222101  Gone is the day of 68 sat EMC2, gone is the day of 80 sat high for the day, and gone is the day of .662 whole day volume.  

Improving the value of EMC2 is what The EMC2 Foundation is primarily about, both of you are invited to play a critical role in the success of EMC2.  

The NEW Foundation has assumed most of the heavy lifting tasks (preservation and increase of EMC2 value) of the old foundation, allowing the old foundation to focus its energies on the light lifting tasks of: automatic tax collecting, shopping for projects to fund, and spending money.   Sadly the old foundation is behind in shopping for projects and  spending money, but does have the time to critic names.

The EMC2 Foundation is days old with a record of success, we are identifying issues of major concern to the EMC2 community, we are prioritizing those concerns based on a core objective -- to strengthen EMC2's value, and we are doing the things necessary to achieve our objectives.  

Again, I extend to both of you a personal invitation to play a pivotal role in the NEW successes that are forthcoming for EMC2.  



The concerns are from the community which your group should be listening to. They are aware that emc2 is Einsteinium and the Einsteinium foundation is often referred to as 'the emc2 foundation'. That is where the confusion exists. I have no control over what your group calls itself, it's simply a concern from supporters that I'm making clear here on this forum. It's your choice to continue it or simply change to 'emc2 advisory board'.

Also, when you mention taxes and spending money, what are you referring to?

The EMC2 Foundation has a rather simple protocol for ALL issues of concern to the EMC2 community; the issue comes to the attention to an officer, board member, or relevant committee member, then depending on the issue it will be addressed appropriately.   As a board member of The EMC2 Foundation I have acknowledged your concern, and have invited you to consider chairing a committee to examine the merits of your concern so that it could be properly presented to the whole board for a fair hearing and a prompt vote.  

Your concern was acknowledged on three separate occasions, you have before you a formula to finally resolve the matter.

As for "taxes" that is referring to the 2% fee imposed upon EMC2 miners to fund EMC2 projects.
As for "spending" that encompasses all of your presumptive duties relevant to the disbursement of funds collected via taxes and donations, specifically disbursements for  project awards and bounties.


Agreed, I feel a chair on the committee would be a good move considering my role with the coin as a whole. Whereabouts is your committee meeting place? If you would like we could create public thread on our new forum at Einsteinium.org to keep things out in the open.

In my view, I'd like to see your group as an official part of the Einsteinium / Emc2 foundation as our primary decision making and community outreach wing. Merging both entities would help clear the air and do wonders for marketing campaigns. That could also be voted on upon my appointment into the committee.

Let's make this happen.



ahumanbeingx, given what you have written it appears that you are confusing 'committee' and 'board', the invitation I extended earlier was very specific and within my powers to extend, please review previous post.  

As I mentioned to you in a private message, I do not have the power to appoint people to the board, that only comes by election of the community as a whole.

As for merging orgs, there again I refer you to our protocol.  

ahumanbeingx I don't know how it is that you let yourself get distracted with issues outside of your purview but your official mandated duty is to find projects to present, and to spend money.  How long are you going to put off what it is you promised to do?   It's time to present some projects and spend some money.


1672  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EMC2] Einsteinium | Funding the future with the future of currency on: June 15, 2014, 12:38:07 PM
Armis, I still feel the name of the committee should change the name to be a bit less confusing for our supporters. That is primarily because "EMC2" IS Einsteinium and there is already the "Einsteinium Foundation". If you would like some suggestions on a new name for the community effort I could help out.

I agree.. they usually call that kind of group an Advisory board or something similar.

most governments around the world have Executive and Legislative branches.
most large companies have something similar, a Board of directors a Shareholder advocacy/activist group.

it seems like that is what we are aiming for here so lets make the naming clear and easy for people to understand.


Alphi  and ahumanbeingx

1) The EMC2 Foundation is a foundation created by the owners of EMC2 for the EMC2 investor community
2) The EMC2 Foundation has a duly elected board birthed from the community.  An election noticed to the community for participation. 
3) The EMC2 Foundation reserves the right to name itself, if either of you want to head up a 'EMC2 renaming committee' you are invited to apply for chairmanship of that committee.   If you do, here's my suggestion for the new name, "The NEW Foundation"
4) The foundation names have nothing to do with the devaluation of EMC2 over the past two months, however the efforts of The EMC2 Foundation (aka The NEW Foundation) has put a halt to the nose dive.   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=494708.msg7222101#msg7222101  Gone is the day of 68 sat EMC2, gone is the day of 80 sat high for the day, and gone is the day of .662 whole day volume. 

Improving the value of EMC2 is what The EMC2 Foundation is primarily about, both of you are invited to play a critical role in the success of EMC2. 

The NEW Foundation has assumed most of the heavy lifting tasks (preservation and increase of EMC2 value) of the old foundation, allowing the old foundation to focus its energies on the light lifting tasks of: automatic tax collecting, shopping for projects to fund, and spending money.   Sadly the old foundation is behind in shopping for projects and  spending money, but does have the time to critic names.

The EMC2 Foundation is days old with a record of success, we are identifying issues of major concern to the EMC2 community, we are prioritizing those concerns based on a core objective -- to strengthen EMC2's value, and we are doing the things necessary to achieve our objectives.   

Again, I extend to both of you a personal invitation to play a pivotal role in the NEW successes that are forthcoming for EMC2. 



The concerns are from the community which your group should be listening to. They are aware that emc2 is Einsteinium and the Einsteinium foundation is often referred to as 'the emc2 foundation'. That is where the confusion exists. I have no control over what your group calls itself, it's simply a concern from supporters that I'm making clear here on this forum. It's your choice to continue it or simply change to 'emc2 advisory board'.

Also, when you mention taxes and spending money, what are you referring to?

The EMC2 Foundation has a rather simple protocol for ALL issues of concern to the EMC2 community; the issue comes to the attention to an officer, board member, or relevant committee member, then depending on the issue it will be addressed appropriately.   As a board member of The EMC2 Foundation I have acknowledged your concern, and have invited you to consider chairing a committee to examine the merits of your concern so that it could be properly presented to the whole board for a fair hearing and a prompt vote.   

Your concern was acknowledged on three separate occasions, you have before you a formula to finally resolve the matter.

As for "taxes" that is referring to the 2% fee imposed upon EMC2 miners to fund EMC2 projects.
As for "spending" that encompasses all of your presumptive duties relevant to the disbursement of funds collected via taxes and donations, specifically disbursements for  project awards and bounties.



 

1673  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EMC2] Einsteinium | Funding the future with the future of currency on: June 15, 2014, 10:12:06 AM
Armis, I still feel the name of the committee should change the name to be a bit less confusing for our supporters. That is primarily because "EMC2" IS Einsteinium and there is already the "Einsteinium Foundation". If you would like some suggestions on a new name for the community effort I could help out.

I agree.. they usually call that kind of group an Advisory board or something similar.

most governments around the world have Executive and Legislative branches.
most large companies have something similar, a Board of directors a Shareholder advocacy/activist group.

it seems like that is what we are aiming for here so lets make the naming clear and easy for people to understand.


Alphi  and ahumanbeingx

1) The EMC2 Foundation is a foundation created by the owners of EMC2 for the EMC2 investor community
2) The EMC2 Foundation has a duly elected board birthed from the community.  An election noticed to the community for participation. 
3) The EMC2 Foundation reserves the right to name itself, if either of you want to head up a 'EMC2 renaming committee' you are invited to apply for chairmanship of that committee.   If you do, here's my suggestion for the new name, "The NEW Foundation"
4) The foundation names have nothing to do with the devaluation of EMC2 over the past two months, however the efforts of The EMC2 Foundation (aka The NEW Foundation) has put a halt to the nose dive.   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=494708.msg7222101#msg7222101  Gone is the day of 68 sat EMC2, gone is the day of 80 sat high for the day, and gone is the day of .662 whole day volume. 

Improving the value of EMC2 is what The EMC2 Foundation is primarily about, both of you are invited to play a critical role in the success of EMC2. 

The NEW Foundation has assumed most of the heavy lifting tasks (preservation and increase of EMC2 value) of the old foundation, allowing the old foundation to focus its energies on the light lifting tasks of: automatic tax collecting, shopping for projects to fund, and spending money.   Sadly the old foundation is behind in shopping for projects and  spending money, but does have the time to critic names.

The EMC2 Foundation is days old with a record of success, we are identifying issues of major concern to the EMC2 community, we are prioritizing those concerns based on a core objective -- to strengthen EMC2's value, and we are doing the things necessary to achieve our objectives.   

Again, I extend to both of you a personal invitation to play a pivotal role in the NEW successes that are forthcoming for EMC2. 

1674  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EMC2] Einsteinium | Funding the future with the future of currency on: June 14, 2014, 10:01:56 PM
Where are the coins from the last 3 Epoch events?

The money has been collecting since Epoch 3 and is currently intact and now in my possession. As many of you know there was falling out from within the team at that time as well as the realization that are scientific donation strategy was somewhat broken. In order to pay our Epoch winners, we have to cashout of the 2% fund onto the trade markets which caused down pressure on our value.

We made the decision at that time to halt donations and collect the money for restructuring and future (bigger) donations. Well the time for restructuring is now and the money from the EMC fund has not been touched!

People, we need to create a new strategy for donating to science! That is what EMC2 is all about. I'm looking to hear your ideas on how we can increase value which in turn will cause our pool of coins to do more for scientific projects.

TRANSPARENCY:

EMC2 Donation Fund = 1612174.13131958 EMC2 (Every new block mined adds to this total).
Bounty Funds = 500000 EMC2 (Donated by Christine to get the ball rolling again)
My Wallet = 500000 EMC2 (I'm holding a quarter million until we see through to a new system of donation. The other quarter million will be used for tipping on IRC, Reddit, Twitter, and Facebook)

If anyone would like to donate extra coins to any fund, it will only help us gain steam quicker. Just get in contact with me directly for the addresses. Otherwise, let's hear some new ideas on how we can increase value and use the donation fund to do some big things in the name of science.

Why not creating a bounty for a new algo development? The most low consumption so far? For crypto world and SCIENCE! maybe a multi algo for gpu and cpu

No one mines Scrypt anymore. You've got ASICs, increased power costs and excess heat. I agree EMC2 should go X11 asap.

I mean an algo from scratch, a new one. And then a new wallet. And then some official support from scientific organizations...

If you want to see this matter handled correctly join the Development Committee at The EMC2 Foundation (not to be confused with The Einsteinium Foundation, I don't know the protocols there).

In a committee you can poll the community; research the merits and draw backs of both sides then present the findings, conclusions, and recommendations to the board for a vote.  

The EMC2 Foundation was created by EMC2 owners to address issues of major concern to the EMC2 investor community.  Some of our actions are already improving things, stay tuned for our first EMC2 Board Report.

1675  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think hedge fund companies love Bitcoin? on: June 14, 2014, 08:41:58 AM
There are many people that bought BTC at many prices.

The sole fact that people are investing in BTC will give it credibility.


that is a most dangerous mentality to have, "credibility" should come by proven performance not by way of following another -- please leave that to fashion.



1676  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / EMC2 Valuation Report on: June 11, 2014, 02:32:10 PM
All too often CCs are getting run up by malicious investors only to be dumped at higher rates on unsuspecting investors leaving them cooperatively holding a bag of coin worth far less than expected.

One of the duties of the Finance Committee is to make a determination as to EMC2's current and future value.  And to prepare the report in such a way that its conclusion may be shared directly with the EMC2 community as a recommendation of the board.  

The purpose of valuations is to increase knowledge about EMC2 so that investors invest intelligently and safely.

At no time shall a 'valuation'  be made to the community, presumably recommended by the board,  regarding EMC2's value unless there is a majority vote of the full body of the board on that specific recommendation.  

The formula by which the committee arrives at its conclusion may vary from time to time but should be included in each valuation report.

The board reserves the right to amend the recommendation as it sees fit, however if amended by the board, it should be duly noted in the recommendation (with or without cause)..  

In the case where future performance is markedly divergent from values presented to the board, the committee should be reevaluated and/or changed, .


I'm working on the first EMC2 Valuation Report for the board's consideration and revision, once it is finally approved by the board it will serve as the minimum standard.


1677  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EMC2] Einsteinium | Funding the future with the future of currency on: June 11, 2014, 01:00:10 PM
Guys, I am very happy that the community is committed to do something to revitalize the coin, but in the thread I see too many talks which have very little to do with plans regarding the fundamental reason to be of this coin, which in the end is what it would give it a value: the funding of science.
It seems that in the CC community everybody is getting so much into the technicalities of the coins to lose the vision of any big picture.
Coins get an enduring value because of the usefulness that they have. Value generated by the hype of expectations dies out rapidly, as you can see in many other P&D coins. And the originality of the algo is NOT what makes EMC2 different.
If we want EMC2 to rise in value, we must focus on the fundamental reason to be of EMC2 and achieve concrete results in THAT area. We must work hard to bring EMC2 to the scientific community which is mostly unaware of the whole CC world, so that scientific organisations start to accept EMC2 tipping and even better start themselves to tip their collaborators with EMC2. A pity the collaboration with Experiment.com failed, perhaps we should try harder or look for similar alternativers.
Bitcoin needed YEARS to grow a community and it is keeping and raising its value despite having the worse algo around.
Each of us must think:
HOW can I get scientific magazines and websites talk about the revolutionary idea behind EMC2?
HOW can I make some scientific university aware of EMC2 and how could I suggest them to adopt the coin for tipping?
HOW can we make the tens of thousands of scientists who exist around the world aware of the existence of EMC2?
The EMC2 community should stop being obsessed in how to attract the attention of the CC gamblers and CC whales, and focus on how to get the coin to the real people who would be interested in it, if they only knew.
As for me, as I have already mentioned in March in this thread, in August I will take part the the world science fiction convention in London (http://www.loncon3.org/), which will have over 5000 people attending and it will be PACKED with scientists and science loving people. Perhaps the biggest concentration around of people potentially interested in our vision. It would be a great occasion for promoting EMC2 with leaflets, posters, paper wallets and whatever. But I doubt I can do everything alone. When I mentioned that in March I didn't get any feedback from the community. Perhaps some more motivation now?



bobq,  when things don't perform as you expect sometimes it takes a comment, sometimes a complaint, and sometimes concerted action. 

You are invited to join the Finance Committee so that your voice is heard and you play a more meaningful role in the growth of EMC2. 

1678  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EMC2] Einsteinium | Funding the future with the future of currency on: June 11, 2014, 08:54:19 AM

Armis, I love this concept but I feel the names being so similar could be a bit confusing to for the wider community. Having both the "EMC2 Foundation" and "Einsteinium Foundation" may cause people to wonder which one is which. Any thoughts?


ahumanbeingx if someone complains to me about the mining tax, the donations, or project updates I'll refer them to you. 

If someone complains to you about EMC2 market value,  I would appreciate it if you referred them to me.




1679  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EMC2] Einsteinium | Funding the future with the future of currency on: June 10, 2014, 10:46:19 PM
I've recently been handed the keys to the coins 2.5% mining fund, Website, BitcoinTalk account, Twitter, Facebook Page, Facebook Group and I am now ready to take a leading role in EMC2 as planned from within the team. I do agree there needs to be a new community effort to support the coin, and I respect what ECAP plans to do.

Please keep in mind, "Armis" is the leader of ECAP and not Einsteinium. That remains the reality unless someone reaches out to the remaining devs of EMC2 which are Christine, Lucas, and myself for needed changes brought on by the community.

Thank you.


Allow me to clarify some things.

The Einsteinium Community Action Plan (ECAP) was authored and proposed (to the community) by me, the initiative failed to receive the necessary level of community support which is why today it is more of a footnote than anything else.

The EMC2 Foundation is a community based organization created by and for EMC2 owners.   The election if its board was publicly announced and open to all EMC2 owners.  The priority of the EMC2 Foundation is to make EMC2 a financially strong coin; additionally to pave a way so that it could remain healthy for a long while.

ECAP is not the EMC2 Foundation, ECAP is a community initiative that failed to win necessary support to survive, whereas The EMC2 Foundation received the community support it needed to succeed.

Perhaps more importantly, The EMC2 Foundation is not The Einsteinium Foundation, as I see it the EMC2 foundation advocates for the EMC2 investor, the Einsteinium Foundation advocates for the projects.    Nevertheless, the two foundations are working for the same coin.  Cobra sees it as two sides of the same coin, the projects foundation on the front end, and the investor foundation on the back end.

Every EMC2 owner is a member of the EMC2 foundation and has the right to vote in all community-wide initiatives including, but not limited to, board member elections.  


Absolutely every EMC2 owner is encouraged to help EMC2 via the EMC2 foundation, presently 7 standing committees.  We are seeking committee members and individuals to chair some of the committees.  Here is the list:

1) Bylaws - create the bylaws for the org
2) Communications - involving very many levels of communications from blogs, articles, youtube projects, to Radio and TV interviews,
3) Development - including all of the coin specifications as actual subjects.  
4) Elections - work with bylaw committee to create org law for elections, then to manage all elections,
5) Finance - draft weekly EMC2 valuation report,  provide oversight for The Einsteinium Foundation regarding trust funds
6) Liaison - team that specifically is constructed to liaison with other orgs that we have a special relationship with beit The Einsteinium Foundation, a school, or another CC
7) Mining - all things mining.
 
Details of each committee will be presented to the community by the respective committee chairman upon appointment.   If you are interested in chairing a committee or being a member of a specific committee send me a message.

1680  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EMC2] Einsteinium | Funding the future with the future of currency on: June 10, 2014, 04:31:09 PM
Hi all,
I noticed the election and Armis' kind invitation PM when it was all finished. Thanks for your PM Armis. I hope all will be good for Einsteinium because it excited me from the first moment I read about it and actively involved as a miner quite long time till dramatic falling of the prices. May be because I'm a physicist but it sounded really great. To know that practically some science projects (that could really change the world and living of people) getting funding because I mine the coin. For me still Einsteinium is different from other coins, core and the philosophy is same as first day. Bad or worse, Einsteinium too is going on the same challenging road as every other coin is going.

I heard about cryptocoins and Bitcoin in the beginning of Jan 2014. I get involved in mining with LTC and made my investment in hardware for it and waiting some watercooling orders from abroad (I live in Turkey, EK is in Slovenia, paper work and delays) and finally started mining in first days of February. I was optimistic and hoping a steady growth of popularity and prices in several months. But almost worst things happened. World's biggest exchange collapsed with client investments and political, regulatory bans and uncertain attitudes from states. And it makes me sorry to say it here but I did the biggest mistake as I changed all my mined LTC to EMC2 with the hopes and bright future expectation of this coin. Since then it came to a point that I can't mine for only electricity bill let alone my hardware expenditure. Not mining for several weeks now.

I was mining LTC till start of April. Difficulty was on the rise. Everyone were rumouring about arrivals of scrypt asics on June or later but it's been more than two months that I can't mine LTC to pay for the electricity I used. I remember the days of LTC that hash rate of the network was below 100 GH/s. At the moment it's 337 GH/s. They are not GPU miners anymore, scrypt asic farms are already here for nearly two months. It's impossible to mine LTC with GPU paying electricity for quite some time. May be they are scrypt-asic manufacturers themselves or their quite "first row" unannounced clients but that hitted really hard on GPU mining. And knocked it out.

After mining EMC2 for a month till first days of the May. I was thinking may be X11 algo would be another port that GPU miners save themselves from that hit. I tried Logicoin for some time but same fate with low prices. Now I don't think only algo type can save the price of a coin or its faith. I would suggest the idea of changing the algo of EMC2 to X11. Honestly no GPU can race with a scrypt-asic in terms of efficieny. And with the appearant fact that scrypt asics are already here: I can't mine EMC2 anymore no matter how I wish it without an algo change. But I won't insist on it here. I have my minings and tradings profit all kept in EMC2 in my wallet. And waiting patiently for things to change.

Your effort is great to save and do something for the EMC2. But I wonder if people elected here as board members have backing and help of any of developers or Einsteinium project executers???

Also I suggest to construct some forum pages in the official Einsteinium site to discuss and manage the fate of EMC2 as a community. IMO this would also show the difference of our community and bold efforts of this great community.

Thanks all the developers and persons of the team of Einsteinium, they do a great job and also community here that don't hesitate to take action and do something about our coin. Wish all a bright future.

Erdinc


Gauss14 thanks for your message, sorry you didn't see my message to you earlier than you did.

You are invited to serve on the, soon to be formed, Mining Committee, there you would be able to work with other in the EMC2 community to thoroughly examine the issues you brought up so that a proper recommendation to the board could be made.   If you go back a number of posts you will see a pretty thorough examination of the POS matter although no formal action was taken, one way or the other, on the matter.

We are also looking for volunteers -- you help EMC2 whenever you have time to do so even if it is only 1 hr a week. 
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