New thread is made for Federated Blockchains Initiative
PRESS TO VISIT
though its an Europecoin project, i think, if the discussion around F.B.I. may get more intensive,
two threads are better, to unclutter the topics.
Also discussing all Europecoin project branches in one thread, could be confusing for new users.
I have added some additional informations about the "getting started roadmap",
memberships and some words about funding to the new thread
have fun
Matthias 
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I am happy that it is finally back and we are able to log in but everytime I go to the login page, put in my username and password nothing happens..it just stays there staring back at me. Doesnt say password is wrong, doesnt say anything..I doubt my password is wrong so it shouldnt be that. Please help.
Try another brower. Happens for me with IE, chrome works for me. I have tried Chrome and Firefox...nothing happened..it was the same result. I never use IE. if this doesn't help, switch javascript interfering plugins (mainly adblock) off and make sure javasript is on. have fun Matthias . |
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point 8,9,10 added with informations on
memberships, a roadmap of the next two three steps and some words about funding.
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So is this at all like the jl777 supernet? Supernet.org
as i understand no, because of these details, that are, as far as i know, unique in this combination
(but maybe i misunderstand the functionality of supernet or others) :1.2.1 Unification of API Interfaces
It does this job for ANY Coin in a unified manner at the same time in one big network. And it does it via a plugin, that doesn't require users of any altcoin (or Bitcoin), to depend on their coin being “added to a network”.
They can just decide to plug into our ecosystem on their own, without any help or interaction, (even without the permission of their own blockchain) by configuring the plugin towards their RPC interface.
Total user-control, absolutely permisssionless.
1.2.2 Hierarchical Unification
Second difference is that coins and apps and services are not different layers or entities any more. You can connect coins to services, coins to coins or add
any already existing service, that may exist on other coins blockchains, or networks, to our servicelayer, in one unified manner.
Coins are services in the same way, as apps are services,
like in HTML5: EVERYTHING IS AN APP.
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 Not many projects at this size, are self funding. While the "Internet of Coins" team is run by crypto-enthusiastic engineers,
the "Federated Blockchains" project has been the brainchild of Europecoin maintainer Matthias.
Now these two organisations have been fusing their efforts together.
We met face to face during the Grit-Talks 2016 at the Europecoin office in Bochum (Germany), to set a path for the future.
We are about close, to release our "decentralized, permission-less, chain-agnostic service protocol".
This new network service layer, is capable, to do cross-chain/cross-coin transactions and bank-transfers and can also provide applications and services
for ANY existing coin without border, without authentication and without coding..
Federated Blockchains starts organizing public communications, code is about to be 70% feature complete and
we are calling for active coin developers, to apply for a first, closed pre alpha test run, that will start in a few month.
You can apply as a tester team her:
http://www.federatedblockchains.eu.org/
other links
http://www.internetofcoins.org
http://www.europecoin.eu.org
INITIAL DRAFT (outdated, just for the record)
VIST OUR WEBSITE FOR MOST RECENT DEVELOPMENTSA COLLABORATIVE INITIATIVE TO BUILD A PLUGIN AND CULTURE
OF FEDERATED BLOCKCHAINS AND COMMUNITYS
DOWNLOAD THIS& visit ourWEBSITE AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM
 25.06.2016, Bochum
Matthias Klees, Europecoin
1.1 Preamble
We, the altcoin community are not only mass-innovating in currency finance and technology, we are, wanted or unwanted, experimenting with something much more explosive: We are experimenting with social impact.
We should never underestimate the longterm consequences of our action.
In that regard its good to spend some thoughts about the impact of current developments and maybe rethink some of them. With Bitcoin we got a tool, that gives hope to humanity. But the size of its impact will be a sum of our actions, to move towards strengthening Bitcoins policy, instead of undermining it from inside. The only group that is capable to destroy or minimize its liberating potential, is not banks, nor government, its us.
We are a hype driven society and we shouldn't bother, we are what we are. We love excitement, like the one, we feel, when we talk about “Coin 2.0” innovations. And sometimes we forget about some implications. Bitcoin is constructed in a way, to lower barriers and to strengthen freedom of choice, as well, as taking responsibility for our own decisions. Bitcoin is very paranoid, when it comes to those values, for a reason. If you don't care about them, freedom declines, but barriers grow.
And we already built some barriers, even by building more Coins, then just Bitcoin. But some barriers are worth the risk, if they are temporary. If we are aware of that, we should not risk, to build another barrier, before we solved that one and united altcoins in the only way, it could serve our humanity:
By following the path of Bitcoin.
So when talking about Coin 2.0, we should not add another layer, that requires permission. Or we are entering a slow process, where those among us, who would like to replace the banks with themselves, instead of liberating anyone, will begin to shift the boundarie and take control. If you think this could not happen anymore, you did the first step to disprove yourself.
1.2. Description
On the first look it seems as it doesn't do anything else but adding an ethereum like layer. But the key comes from two very significant details:
1.2.1 Unification of API Interfaces
It does this job for ANY Coin in a unified manner at the same time in one big network. And it does it via a plugin, that doesn't require users of any altcoin (or Bitcoin), to depend on their coin being “added to a network”.
They can just decide to plug into our ecosystem on their own, without any help or interaction, by configuring the plugin towards his RPC interface.
Total user-control, absolutely permisssionless.
1.2.2 Hierarchical Unification
Second difference is that coins and apps and services are not different layers or entities any more. You can connect coins to services, coins to coins or add
any already existing service, that may exist on other coins blockchains, or networks, to our servicelayer, in one unified manner.
Coins are services in the same way, as apps are services,
like in HTML5: EVERYTHING IS AN APP.
2. Federation
My ideas about borderless networking among chains, made me, to begin thinking about unification among altcoins and services. A few years ago, Google came up with a product named “WAVE” by publishing a “Federation Protocol” for cross-company intranet collaboration on projects. I was excited.
Short before going public they shut down the project and deleted everything.
I never forgot about this idea. I realized, PURE UNIFICATION is not the exact best approach, because our diversity, is what makes us great.
But back to altcoins, bringing exchange, collaboration among chains, communities and services as close as possible, is the way.
I first had problems to imagine the right solution, until I managed to drop some useless paradigms.
I dropped the idea, I am thinking about a new blockchain
I began to think more about P2P and decentralization
I dropped to think about trust
I began to think about trustless security
I dropped to think about functions
I began to understand everything has to be an app
I also had to get to the point of getting aware, that I am not searching for a new technology, but for a solution. Bitcoin is one of the most mind blowing ideas and its assembled only with technologies, that already existed. The only thing, Satoshi did and wanted to do, is to solve a problem.
When I came to that point, there wasn't much left, that could not be possible with the technology, we already have.
3. The Network
There are networks in the process of being made, but they are bind to a coin, like Ethereum, where others CAN take part (even other coins) but not without using Ether in some way. Or even worse approaches, where other coins need permission to take part. If we stop trying to think in boundaries and stop trying to ensure, we are getting a share out of something, only then its possible, to get a decentralized chainagnostic network standart. (DCNS)
If we want to solve this problem in the Bitcoin way, there are some principles, we have to take into account. The solution must be decentralized, accessible without permission, trustless and opensource. These are not only principles, but values, that are representing the blueprint for a better world.
So lets cook! After all these thoughts, the are not much elements left, that are representing a problem, that isn't solvable:
decentralized network servicebus
trustless transformation of the differences among endpoints
do not touch the core of any coin
a seperated protocol for sharing, communication and internet like activities.
A validation chain for multisig and smartcontracting capabilities
4. And now lets boil it down
I am just an ex-programmer and I lost most of my skills ages ago.
But i learned to identify software and snippets that are already existing
and that are representing functions, we could use or learn from:
4.1 In-wallet plugin-to-coin communication
There is the RPC interface, most Bitcoin based altcoins share in common.
We know, they can be used universally, because blockexplorers and others
do so. They do not need a rewrite of the whole blockexplorer, they just need
some configurations and the deamon. Lets call it „RPC to service converter“
4.2 „RPC to service converter“ to service
Its already present in Openbazaar. Lets say Openbazaar is yet another
service, its connectivity could also be rewritten to plug in other services.
I am not sure, but if I understood its code correctly, even this is already there.
Lets call this „service api“
4.3 services to connect coins, making payments universally
There is Shapeshift and others, based on open source software. From
regulation standpoint, interchanging crypto currencies, is the most sensible
part, depending on countries. But there are already first decentralized
exchanges. An automated, Shapeshift like, decentralized function based
on those exchanges, could do the job.
Lets call this „excange daemon“
4.4 communication and internet like services
They are all there, thanks to our ever innovating altcoin community,.But
because of lag of collaboration and ever growing competition, they are
seperated in countless single-featured coins, there is no shortage of code.
This, lets call it „communication chat and sharing module“, has to be
encapsuled and seperared from the rest of the functionalities for security
reasons.
4.5 service time token
A unified generic blockchain based multisig validation and floodprotection modul.
5. Federation in general
Federation (as it should be) is a social structure, that gives every member the
freedom and the space, to preserve its own uniqueness, sovereignty and
identity. It brings communities as close together as possible, to enable
collaboration and to celebrate diversity …. and it should be scripted
6. An attempt to visualize my thoughts
7. Federated Blockchains Initiative
This is my draft, to get the ball rolling. It is made while hundreds of highly
skilled people are having thoughts, not different or even better then me,
like the ever innovating guys from Diamond Foundation and Bitsend and
many more.
In fact, my draft wouldn't make any sense, without knowing, there are friends,
much more skilled than me, to get this to the next level.
I am looking forward to discuss and alter this draft together and to learn form
these great partners and YOU, as much, as i can.
The more of my thoughts are getting replaced by better approaches,
the better for us all.
8. Members and Membership
Already in with their developments resources, are Diamond Foundation, Bitsend and two independent developers.
Everybody, who would like to influence this project and contribute, please PM me, i will take care of you.
IF you are just curious and like to attend our meetings, you are welcome to. Just let me know.
We are completely open to anyone ... as long as we can handle it.
But anyway, there is no need to "be in" to enjoy the benefits of the network,
because as described, everybody can just plug into the network, without asking anybody, its REALLY permission-less!
If there is something to know (for example API standards, commands, interfaces ....),
we will publish EVERYTHING we do and EVERYTHING we know in realtime. And we are always happy to help.
9. Kickstart Roadmap
Now after having published our first draft, we are now using the next ten days, to let everybody, know and to
give everybody the time to wrap his mind around this and to get some opinions.
After these ten days, we will introduce our new project management platform and we will make an appointment for a first online meeting.
In this online meeting we will answer open questions and we will try to get an overview, about who likes to work with us and witch skills are available.
Depending on scale we will possibly try to outline a first take on jobs, positions, reposibilities in terms of the project planning.
During the startup periode, we would like to have a meeting like this once a week.
10. FUNDING
We do not collect, crowdfund or issue any funding. Every founding member of this project,
has a well functioning business and we are not dependent on earning with crypto.
If we are deciding to earn some funds, we will do it in the old-fashioned way and will do some work.
lets collaborate, lets federate, lets liberate
Matthias Klees, Europecoin
with help, inspiration, and contributions by
The Diamond Foundation and Bitsend
PRESS:
http://bitcoingarden.tk/plugin-culture-federated-blockchains/#comment-30666
thank you for your time and interest,
Matthias
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 new article on Bitcoingarden about BITSEND & EUROPECOIN partnership
and about the Federated Blockchain Initiative's White-Paper:
http://goo.gl/PJWjnv
have fun
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new article on Bitcoingarden about BITSEND & EUROPECOIN partnership
and about the Federated Blockchain Initiative's White-Paper:
http://goo.gl/PJWjnv
have fun
Matthias
P.S. Helmut: GREAT, thank you!.
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Helping us to spread the word ...
here is a descriptive flyer to spread the word:
original downloadlink for the document is:http://www.europecoin.eu.org/europcoin-info-resources-2/press-info?download=36:federated-blockchains
next: today we will have a conversation with two magazines that are willing to publish an article.
So we are now using one week to spreads the word and to give anybody a chance to understand our draft.
We don't lag to have developers, but its a big task and we like to give other developers and coin developers a chance,
to jump on board. Like i already layed out two weeks ago, after this week, we are organizing an online conference, gathering
to talk about a roadmap. I am expecting another exiting trip to the next level of our efforts.
and of course we will not forget about our ongoing tasks:
Mac wallet 2.025 and upgrade 2.0.25 are currently given to our partners to compile.
thank you and have fun
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... because we learned a lot about how to explain our idea, here is our
DRAFT VERSION TWO (Better Description for easier understanding)
FOR A COLLABORATIVE INITIATIVE TO BUILD A
PLUGIN AND CULTURE OF
FEDERATED BLOCKCHAINS AND COMMUNITYSAfter weeks of research and collaboration I proudly present our draft
for a plugin based Coin 2.0 servicebus with unified, open, permissionless access for any altcoin or service.
I hope you like it.
DOWNLOAD THE
PAPER
HERE
have fun
Matthias
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Matt - Your summary above was clear and brought
the whole concept down to my level. (Light bulb
turns on). Now the paper will be an easier read.
Thank you!
thak you maybe i should make an update tomorrow and put it into the paper right? thanks for that inspiration Matthias . |
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hi nuno what is the added value of the federated blockchain do u see cross chain interaction trading and share of services coin A provide towards a user who dont run coin A already? if a solution can create this enviroment i think thats plenty "added value" I see the federated blockchain as the Service middle layer, which only acts as middle man between altcoins existing services and is supposed to be codeless i dont see it codeless in my vision its blockchainbased solution which use no own currency but some kind of service tokens u generate easy by just be online as a node for some time we decided inside the federation that we not work behind closed door with a bunch of devs and present a solution in 6 months but that we present a usecase we want to solve and while we have federation brainstormings and solution designs we can also interact with input from outside present as feedback to the paper and its possible for each dev or coin community representative to join the federation too Ok, so if I understand, the idea is to have something like what for example Nocks team has with Gulden/BTC/FIAT but which is agnostic of the altcoin in use and actually does not charge a fee for being used. Lets imagine I want to use ERC to pay for a Steam game which would have to be paid using BTC, the federated blockchain would allow me to do that. Is this the idea? If yes, how would the rating between altcoin A and altcoin B be made? I guess Exchanges would really hate to see something like this appear.. as they would be of no further use as I see it. i see you are coming closer, our post crossed, i wrote some words about your questions (see two post before) Matthias |
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Hi Matthias,
First of all congrats on releasing the paper, for sure it took you many hours to consolidate all the information which you had on your human hard-drive.
By reading it, I got however a bit confused.
On the first part I thought about some "mechanism" that could unify/carry any altcoin blockchain by adding a signature as added value.
question 1) why only altcoins and not also bitcoin?
question 2) what would be the usage of the federated chain? Would it be used as a "central bank" which regulates and ensures altcoin blockchains are valid_
In the end, where you have the diagram, I see the federated blockchain as the Service middle layer, which only acts as middle man between altcoins existing services and is supposed to be codeless.
It did not clicked in my mind yet what is the added value of the federated blockchain or which types of services it can provide.
PS: I am not bashing on the paper, I am just trying to understand the concept on its fullness.
Cheers,
Nuno
just wasn't able to sleep so i am here once more Yes its a bit confusing on the first read, try to read the "non-technical" parts very slow first, they are the key to understand the difference of why this approach is unique and provides value. On the first view it looks as it doesn't add anything else but an ethereum like layer. That Idea is not completely wrong except two significant details, first is, that does this this job for ANY Coin in a unified manner at the same time in one big network. And it does it via a plugin that doesn't require users of any altcoin, to depend on their coin being added to the network. They can just decide to plug into our ecosystem on their own, without any help or interaction, total user-control, absolutely permisssionless. And second difference is that coins and and apps and services are not different layers or entities any more. You can connect coins to services, coins to coins or add already existing services, that are existing on other coins blockchains or networks to our servicelayer in one unified manner. Coins are services in the same way as apps are services, like in HTML5: EVERYTHING IS AN APP! That's the key. I hope this helps and no your questions are welcome i am delighted to see your interest have fun Matthias P.S. Ah i forgot to say: of course Bitcoin to ... its all the same then Edit: and yes you are right: exchanges will hate it, lol . . |
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DRAFT FOR A COLLABORATIVE INITIATIVE TO BUILD A
PLUGIN AND CULTURE OF
FEDERATED BLOCKCHAINS AND COMMUNITYSAfter weeks of research and collaboration I proudly present my draft
for a plugin based Coin 2.0 servicebus with unified, open, permissionless access for any altcoin or service.
I hope you like it.
DOWNLOAD THE
PAPER
HERE
have fun
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hey Matthias,
Can you give a brief definition of what the Federated Blockchain is please?
thanks,
john
yes my draft is about to be published in 1 1/2 hour, you will find everything inside. Its just being lectured by methamorphin, to get rid of my ever present typos. I am delighted, you are expressing interest thank you Matthias . |
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guys,staisybit is back online or not? how to login in old account?
Not yet mate. It appears that we will have to wait even more before something exciting happens. Everyday I go into the Staisybit site, all I see is the landing page but cannot see a way to log into old account. As someone from the team said above, it should take over a week to see something happen...at least  pssssst look again have fun Matthias |
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Hi Matthias, Regarding the ROKU testing, I did test it briefly and it was working but it had to many coins which I don't need. So, I decided to go for a DIY approach and built a RPi3 Raspbian image with the only 3 coins I have (NLG, ERC and SLG) and since I was building something for myself I also added Kodi to be able to use the Raspberry as a Media Center Also, I did some changes (I dare to call them improvements) comparing to ROKU regarding the setup to try to ensure I don't have problems with SD card corruption. These wallets are quite disk intensive and SD cards are not very fond of it. Nuno sounds like an interesting alternative, please share your version when its ready have fun Matthias . |
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Federated Blockchains Whitepaper is done,
waiting for team comments before pubish.
have fun
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@Woody20285 and @backbonejb
Hello,
that are good news !
Best Regards Christian
Yes it certainly is. Today went smooth, wallet keeps staking en running fine at the moment! Thanks for all your efforts. Jerry
Thank YOU for keeping faith and keeping up with us!
have fun
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if more and more up to date wallet are online that
wait time to sync will decrease until nearly non existence
its also important to add a hard checkpoint after the critical blocks into next wallet
even more there is a complete core-upgrade and rewrite going on in the background, we are keeping up evolving.
By the way i found out, we just reached (with downloads and visits) the 10 terrabyte traffic on our site.
just the presskit had 2460 downloads this month. Because we ran out of volume, i am now preparing alternate download sources.
downloads will be back available soon.
have fun
Matthias
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