Was just reading the Gunbot thread and the author says in a recent post the average profit is 1% daily... that seems to coincide with bitconnect's claim. Or is Gunbot not really profitable despite everyone claiming it to be?
(just noticed bitconnect changed their login so that people can't bypass the reCaptcha any more when logging in - they used to allow logging in on the top right of their pages without it)
i think that institutional bots even have a hard time yielding the type of returns bcc is offering, after keeping up on this topic off and on im starting to think they may not even have a bot at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ob_tNKuhIQthis could end badly for a lot of people, to anyone thinking about "lending"...just buy BCC itself and stake it. atleast then your in control of your money The gunbot you have in quotes is real and it makes 1 or 2% daily, of course sometimes you have a loss, sometimes you have bigger profit, but on average they make about 1-2%. You can read their thread it is here on the forum also. Institutional bots on crypto are not there yet as institutions are not investing massively into it... So if they have a bot that is close to gunbot they can easily achieve 1% on average daily... The only company or institution I see is trying to create a bot is Rialto (they also have a thread here). And they are focusing on arbitrage, so plenty of room in crypto for bots and institutions... I know what the gunbot is and i use a bot regularly to trade....and its not like some magic program where you hit a button and all the sudden you have 1-2% trickling in everyday. You have to program it and know exactly how to set the parameters. My point is that big money institutions with some of the best financial minds have a tough time programming a bot that yields the same returns BCC is offering, so to invest with confidence your going to have to believe that this company bitconnect has the most amazing bot in the world. "BC, you're the most amazing bot in the world.
Let's connect later for a bit after I tweak my trading portfolio per your direction." |
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I absolutely despise pseudo intellectualism and that book excerpt is everything I hate about it.
The ignorant dindu doesn't appear capable of differentiating matter from time.  |
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Oh my fuckin WOW (rhymes with NOW)! I quit reading Craig Grant's book when I got to the page having a pic depicting him taking a selfie while enjoying himself in a bubble bath. |
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hi everyone!~ we are updating the client and adding some new features...*stay tuned*  you say something like that 2 months ago... but only thing happen: delisting from bittrex  is being reloaded soon ..stay tuned! Is Josh "In Two Weeks" Zerlan now running the show? |
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Well their exchange was actually down for a couple of hours due to the 10% volatility thing but not sure what time it was. Saw someone on youtube mention it was down and he also said it's common in real stock markets for them to do the same (but for larger falls than 10%). They are paying off their detractors now lol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKFDKgGngzo (maybe Gleb can ask for 2BTC too) That really makes them look awful. The 'top top' people at bitconnect in a chat, all agreeing to pay someone off. And they don't even disagree with the facts, they just want him to take it down and are willing to pay him for it. I'd expect nothing less from Craig Grant though, he is a terrible person. That's complete nonsense. Craig Grant isn't a hypocrite but the ball sack is. Sold his credibility for a small amount. Shows how small time he really is. Give Craig credit - he believes in what he believes and runs with it. Everyone is waiting for bit connect to fail and it'll march on. The ball sack even is sponsored by Craig and has 19 people signed up underneath him. Yes please don't think that because I was putting Craig down that I think the other person didn't look bad as well, because that other person he tried to bribe also looked absolutely awful so I totally agree with you on that point. But Craig Grant is most definitely a hypocrite and a terrible person. He has openly said he thinks there is no trading bot whatsoever, and yet continues to encourage his viewers to invest in a company that he thinks is lying. The only thing he believes is that he will make a lot of money (which he is completely right about). And as most of his money is from referrals and he already makes far more than he's ever put in he doesn't even have to risk anything of his own. It's genius really, got to give him that, but it's still unethical. And please note I am not personally saying that I know bitconnect don't have a bot, because I have absolutely no idea to be honest. They may be legit, they may not. I just think it's wrong that Craig actually thinks they don't have one (and are therefore lying from the start) but is happy to risk his viewers money. Craig Grant is going to get sued by all his referrals when Bitconnect stops paying. There's no way that an international class action lawsuit is going to be successful regaining all investor money. But one thing is clear, Grant is making money off his referrals. He and everyone else throwing up YouTube promotionals should be ready to lawyer up when the obvious happens. Same true for 16/17-year-old CryptoNick with his 1,700+ referrals. |
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https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitconnect/#chartsSomeone mentioned on this thread earlier how well it tracks bitcoin....well look at this graph from coinmarketcap. Those Chinese must be as clever as everyone says to be able to do that (it's almost a straight line if you look at the BTC value but the volume was greater than usual): https://snag.gy/jRFUZ9.jpg  Something weird happened: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitconnect/#charts (look at 1 day graph) Volume increased dramatically and selling and buying going on.....maybe some experiment?
Anyway, people need to realise that there are a lot of elements to their system that aren't obvious at first glance. True, if people compound for 299 days they get 20x their principle investment (still slower than current bitconnect growth in same period of 1000x by a large margin) but without compounding it is only 4x the amount invested and obviously compounding locks up the added funds for another 299 day period each time. What percentage of people would be reinvesting so much once they have a decent amount invested (after compounding for 10 months, they would be getting 6 times their initial investment every month in interest)? Another point is that bitconnect can pay as little as ZERO percent for lower deposits (which means people wouldn't be reinvesting and compounding on interest amounts below $1010) and only guarantees 0.1% on amounts over $1010, going up to 0.25% bonus for the higher levels of investment. This means that people wouldn't be compounding any more once bitconnect growth slows and they pay a more sustainable interest rate of 0.1% per day (which is still around 40% in a year, and compounding hardly makes a difference at those levels). The value in bitconnect is that they GUARANTEE the deposits, and their setup makes it possible for them to achieve that aim. It reduces customer risk of any fluctuations in bitcoin or other token prices and protects their capital investment. If a company decided to create a similar service and marketed it in a more serious way, then I'm sure it would be popular. As an example, bitcoin is likely to crash to around $2000 before rising to around $20,000 so it is much safer if there was such a service that shared the growth in the price for people who do not want to ride all those cycles and guarantee their capital (since they seem to have most of the BCC tokens and can prevent any major crashes, they just need to simply hold them as collateral at the time of each loan and then pay them a share as daily interest from the predicted growth of their own token). The bottom line is that so far they have generated huge profits which holds them in good stead for the future. People need to obviously realize at first glance that there are a lot of elements to BitConnect's system, namely they run their own exchange sans external audits, thus enabling them to fuck with the numbers, e.g. 24-hour volume increasing six-fold within a matter of minutes, then remaining at that rate ever since. Honest markets don't behave that, and one would have to be delusional if they think to do. Since BitConnect is the largest exchange in terms of volume in trading BCC, naturally coinmarketcap.com's charts will reflect damn near close to graphs depicting trades mostly controlled by BitConnect on their platform.
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Today I see the volume of BCC at $29 Million. The volume is usually 5 Million only per day. So 6 times more volume today and the price hardly changed. That means that 6 times more people today suddenly decided to sell BCC and magically 6 times more people suddenly decided to buy too.Can that be possible?
Yes because those 6 times suddenly sell BCC there's 6 times in the other end bought those coins. That's what's surprising. Imagine around 100,00 more people suddenly decided to sell today maybe they expect some negative news. Same time 100K more people decided to buy because of the same news? It does not make sense  "Hey, I've an idea. Since we's haz nothin' better to do,
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 "Yes, this is Mr. People of People's Pet Shop.
I want to report a missing Garzalla I had in the window.
What was he wearing? Normally just red trucks with suspenders,
but he may be donning a vest and driving a red sports car.
Does he stink? Only if Marshall Long is tagging along.
They may be passing bogus People's tokens which I'm not party to." "It was a dark and stormy night and shit just got real." |
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New BCC mining pool up and running!Hi Fellow miners I want to invite you to try out our pool which has been recently launched. So far we have a few coins to choose from but we are definitely working on getting more coins up as soon as possible. please support us and throw a few hashes our way Only 1.5% mining fee 174.138.81.87 Port: 1111, Diff: 8 Port: 2222, Diff: 32 - 4096 (vardiff) Port: 3333, Diff: 131072 Use your BCC wallet address as your username and any password Happy mining! Is your name Robert or William Smith? I am Robert , Me and William are working together on the pool to keep things running smooth OH, REALLY! Then how the fuck do you explain ... Only kidding.  Thanks for setting me straight, bud. |
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I am trying to understand the terms you are offering. Is it correct to say you are asking for a loan under the following terms:
Loan Amount: 2BTC
Due date: October 31, 2017
Repayment amount: greater of $20,000 (paid via bitcoin at exchange rate at the time of repayment), or 2.2 BTC
I am also trying to understand the relationship between you and TuTu.Co.in. Is this your project? Or did someone else create this project? Where do you fall into play regarding this project?
Where will the funds to repay the loan come from? How will the funds from the loan be used? If the ICO is ultimately not successful, what funds will be used to repay the loan? Do you have sufficient assets to repay the loan if the ICO is not successful? Are you personally guaranteeing this loan?
I assume you are able to provide some kind of signed message verifying your identity as Bruno/Gleb.
Thanks.
Full Disclosure: I contacted Quickseller in making him aware of this thread, assumably hence his presence in asking tough questions.  ( ) Using my Gleb account, allow me to address your questions in no particular order. No signed message but I guess I could create one outta the blue but that'll prove nothing. The two phone numbers attached to myself are both in my control, fairly easily to verify via said means. In essence, proving that I am who I say I am should not be much of an issue to overcome. I am the creator/founder of YuTü.Co.in et al. Everything penned on the website - /yutu.co.in - was by me, with no others aiding in the overall concept/business model. The funds to repay the loan will come from funds garnered during YuTü.Co.in's ICO, a common practice where angel investors receive their cut first after ICOs of entities they embrace come to a close. YuTü.Co.in's forthcoming ICO would have to be a total flop if it were unable to amass at least a measly U$20,000 during its run considering that myriad less-thought-out entities have raised tens of millions, founders of some nowhere to be found shortly after amassing their windfall. That said, sadly if I had sufficient assets to repay the loan if the ICO is not successful, I wouldn't be in a position in having to request this investment-cum-loan, albeit that's perhaps a misnomer given that many multi-million-dollar entities seek additional funding for their respective projects in spite of their coffers being adaquently topped off. The loan is for 2 BTC regardless of the exchange rate when remitted. Repayment is U$20,000 or 100% interest on 2 BTC, whichever is greater at the time of repayment no later than October 31, 2017 (i.e., if BTC trades above U$5 anytime up to the end of October, then repayment would be over U$20K - e.g., U$5,200 X 2 BTC X 2 [100% int.] = U$20,800) Hope I addressed everything. Bruno 702-981-5600 815-508-1668 <both phone numbers above are in my (Bruno Kucinskas) control and have been attached to me for some time, easily verified via a Google et al. search, most results directing to this forum where I've penned it over the years> |
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I dont know if Im a dummy or something but I cant find the whitepaper
Can anyone PM the link? Or is it somewhere on their website?
Who needs a whitepaper when they actually of have shills to trick people in getting new people to feed their magical system? this is just a system for greedy pigs and stupid people. Guess who made Regional Manager over all of Europe for BitConnect. Give up? This guy -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPzFzAFYClcTo be fair to the German dude having a ghetto accent when speakin' said vernacular, he does have a forbitable YouTube following: https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCuACchAgagQU6kPplOelH3gThe oldest video is less than four months old and all 132 videos are on the subject of pizza ... My bad! The singular topic is BitConnect, as if you didn't see that coming. There is JUST ONE caveat that Mr. Jeti had to abide to in accepting his new gig - he can't diss Control Finance. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm !!! That's fuckin interesting! Why the fuck would BitConnect disallow speaking ill of Control Finance given that they're a verified scam, coupled with such being the ONLY caveat. You fuckin telling me that BitConnect couldn't detail other caveats for the protection of their brand oppose to just talkin' 'bout CF being off-limits? |
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New BCC mining pool up and running!Hi Fellow miners I want to invite you to try out our pool which has been recently launched. So far we have a few coins to choose from but we are definitely working on getting more coins up as soon as possible. please support us and throw a few hashes our way Only 1.5% mining fee 174.138.81.87 Port: 1111, Diff: 8 Port: 2222, Diff: 32 - 4096 (vardiff) Port: 3333, Diff: 131072 Use your BCC wallet address as your username and any password Happy mining! Is your name Robert or William Smith? |
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So doubt it is illegal if he wants to lend some of his digital tokens to a 'lending bot', and it's a bit late now to ban him if he's invested etc.
Team BitConnect: Dear, Investard: It's come to our attention that you haven't been abiding by our ToS. Lucky for you, you're invested in our wonderful program. Please be advised that if you don't immediately abide by our ToS, a second letter of this nature WILL be sent informing you of your infractions. WE DON'T MESS AROUND WHEN IT COMES TO PROTECTING OUR BRAND !!! Regards, Team BitConnect Address: Not the same as last week and definitely different next week. 10278342 (in arrears, but will satisfy as soon as we get more money in our coffer from Investards) |
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This thread kinda getting slow. I guess they're tired of battling with Gleb.
Investard: A person willing to put their money in a Ponzi-esque scheme whose owner is unknown and doesn't abide by their own ToS, all the while jacking off, unless you're Crypto Girl - jacking in - when battling with The Gleb.  "Damn, dudes, I want in on some of that action." |
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First physical Paycoin ever and one of the biggest scams in crypto.
It has 1 XPY loaded.
How much do you want for it?  It should be donated to the Crypto Museum, displayed between Marshall Long's stinky underwear and Leroy "Honestly" Fodor's lies, albeit said lies would overshadow both displays like an eon-long solar eclipse. |
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Gleb, bitconnect doesn't require people to use their real names according to their faq section... the section you quoted contradicts that. But also what private information do you mean, because someone's username is the same as their referral link name so it's hardly private. The bitconnect and bitcoin addresses on the platform when logging in are not shown on the account pages and are not the same each time. You literally have to press the deposit button for the address to come up (and sometimes it says the address is unavailable as I've shown before when they've had problems creating addresses). So the address for deposits probably change regularly and are not the same each time. They are never shown on the account pages except when someone clicks the deposit buttons. That is when an address is shown but I don't know how permanent they are. Am I required to reveal my identity?
No. Bitconnect members can choose whether to specify their real name on public profile or remain known as a pseudonym. If you wish to use your authentic name and verify your identity with bitconnect system, that would be more desirable. When you stand behind your Bitconnect activity with an authentic name, our community is more accountable overall. UPDATE: Just saw someone post this in the comments to the 'glitch' fiasco on their site
Brent Edward usopen65667268 • 3 days ago
They are not using the blockchain to actually store people's accounts. This is similar to the way many exchanges currently work. They give you a deposit address, but once your funds hit that address, it is swept back out and into their own pool, with an entry made into their database. Likewise, when you make a withdrawal, they have to pull the funds from one or more addresses before they can actually send it to you. Unfortunately, this is also similar to the way a bank works, i.e. called fractional reserve banking. So while blockchain assets are being accounted for coming in and going out. Internally, it's more likely some SQL database keeping track of everything.
BitConnect does "require" its users to be at least 18 years of age. Can we agree on that? CryptoNick is ONLY 16 years of age. Can we agree on that? CryptoNick lied when he entered into contract with BitConnect, viz. agreeing to their ToS. Can we agree on that? CryptoNick has 1,700+ referrals in BitConnect. Can we agree on that? If you agree to all the above, do you agree that 1,700+ users in CryptoNick's downline have no issues with him being 16 years old in spite of it being against BitConnect's policy which every single one of them have agreed to said ToS when individually joining the program?
Says he's 17 now but there is no age limit for buying bitcoins (as he had a coinbase account at that age which is regulated but they recently changed their policy: https://support.coinbase.com/customer/en/portal/articles/2034490-can-i-open-a-coinbase-account-if-i-m-under-18-?b_id=13521) and you can buy them at localbitcoins or some other exchanges at any age as I don't think bitcoin cares (you could ask bitcoin but don't think you'd get a reply).
So doubt it is illegal if he wants to lend some of his digital tokens to a 'lending bot', and it's a bit late now to ban him if he's invested etc. We're not talkin' 'bout the legality of such-and-such, but of BitConnect's policy stipulated in their ToS. It's not illegal to upload porn on the Internet (predicated on Nation State's laws) but YouTube disallows the practice because ... wait for it ... it's stipulated in their ToS. If BitConnect allows users to be under 18 years of age, that's fine. They simply need to delete that clause from their ToS. But if they do, they'll be hard-pressed in having some banking institute backing their future debit card if they allow children under the age of 10 to participate in their program. Back to BitConnect's current policy in place, CryptoNick is either 16 or 17, but he was definitely 16 when he entered into contract with BitConnect as evident in at least one video he uploaded on YouTube. Ergo, according to BitConnect's own ToS, he IS NOT allowed to participate in their program. If BitConnect continues allowing him to participate, then that speaks volumes of BitConnect's cred which is already marred. |
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Gleb, bitconnect doesn't require people to use their real names according to their faq section... the section you quoted contradicts that. But also what private information do you mean, because someone's username is the same as their referral link name so it's hardly private. The bitconnect and bitcoin addresses on the platform when logging in are not shown on the account pages and are not the same each time. You literally have to press the deposit button for the address to come up (and sometimes it says the address is unavailable as I've shown before when they've had problems creating addresses). So the address for deposits probably change regularly and are not the same each time. They are never shown on the account pages except when someone clicks the deposit buttons. That is when an address is shown but I don't know how permanent they are. Am I required to reveal my identity?
No. Bitconnect members can choose whether to specify their real name on public profile or remain known as a pseudonym. If you wish to use your authentic name and verify your identity with bitconnect system, that would be more desirable. When you stand behind your Bitconnect activity with an authentic name, our community is more accountable overall. UPDATE: Just saw someone post this in the comments to the 'glitch' fiasco on their site
Brent Edward usopen65667268 • 3 days ago
They are not using the blockchain to actually store people's accounts. This is similar to the way many exchanges currently work. They give you a deposit address, but once your funds hit that address, it is swept back out and into their own pool, with an entry made into their database. Likewise, when you make a withdrawal, they have to pull the funds from one or more addresses before they can actually send it to you. Unfortunately, this is also similar to the way a bank works, i.e. called fractional reserve banking. So while blockchain assets are being accounted for coming in and going out. Internally, it's more likely some SQL database keeping track of everything.
BitConnect does "require" its users to be at least 18 years of age. Can we agree on that? CryptoNick is ONLY 16 years of age. Can we agree on that? CryptoNick lied when he entered into contract with BitConnect, viz. agreeing to their ToS. Can we agree on that? CryptoNick has 1,700+ referrals in BitConnect. Can we agree on that? If you agree to all the above, do you agree that 1,700+ users in CryptoNick's downline have no issues with him being 16 years old in spite of it being against BitConnect's policy which every single one of them have agreed to said ToS when individually joining the program? |
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If you like artificial flavors.....
Everything about her is fake, including the hair color.
I've seen her in person.
Why would anyone want Garza's sloppy seconds?
RISKY!
Okay, let's say you two were marooned on a deserted island and there were no more Wilsons to fuck, a storm blew them all out to sea, including the air pump. Then? |
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https://bitconnect.co/terms-of-use/Translated: 16-year-old CryptoNick is once again in breach of BitConnect's ToS by showcasing the names of his 1,700+ referrals more than once via videos on his YouTube channel. The last time I checked, depicting a person's name is revealing personal information of said person. If not, I'll gladly do a tad of research and connect select depicted names - which BitConnect forbids disclosing by its users - to all their available vitals online. See why it's imperative that BitConnect has such a policy in place? PS: Did you enjoy the cookies and milk I served up earlier? I see you glowing growing.
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