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Nice to see a non-X11 bashing comment from you...lol I like XPM....  |
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How is scrypt gone? If you retards would notice, scrypt-n isn't dominating coinwarz by any means. Go on and blame the gridseeds, the only real "scrypt asic" on the market, which delivers the same k-hash/$ as an R270.
Alts in general are tanking.
"but but but but KNC titan".. whose projected delivery is "maybe end of Q2/maybe Q3"
Morons.
Ah , gridseeds need to price adjust to around $30 per. Another thing if ORSoc are making to chip, it will probably be Q2. You sound like a gridseed bagholder? Gridseed returns take nearly 3 quarters of the year to a year at the current rates, just to break even. If they were in the $75 to $140 range, they would be decently profitable and fairly priced. What is ORSoc creating? Will it out perform Gridspeed? Any links please? |
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How is scrypt gone? If you retards would notice, scrypt-n isn't dominating coinwarz by any means. Go on and blame the gridseeds, the only real "scrypt asic" on the market, which delivers the same k-hash/$ as an R270.
Alts in general are tanking.
"but but but but KNC titan".. whose projected delivery is "maybe end of Q2/maybe Q3"
Morons.
Guess civility and humbleness aren't a priority for you, nice with the insults first mentality. True, I'll agree with you with the ALT's having a down turn for a good while. But, at any time, they can jump. Cryptos are like the stocks in the stock market and are very volatile, most people don't understand that ideology aspect of it. Stocks work off of company performance and speculation. Cryptos work off of technology/innovation, dev/community support and speculation. KNC is a legit company as far as making the hardware, but shipping dates are always delayed. Rumors of them and others(BFL, etc.) mining before shipping items out to maximize profits, but those are rumors and not backed up by any facts at the moment. |
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It isn't just GPU profitability that's way down, its everything. Asics are a terrible investment too. If you're a student of history, you'll know that the people who got rich during the California gold rush weren't the miners, it was the people selling the mining equipment. Same is true for crypto. Unless you manage to get ahold of the latest and greatest asics before everyone else, and get real lucky mining, you're playing a losing game too if your angle is to mine and dump.
That said, I'm not a big time miner by any stretch, I have ~5Mh. I knew the bubble would pop in dramatic fashion, and it is, so I didn't go overextend myself buying gpus or delude myself into thinking I would keep making huge profits. What I am doing is continuing to mine what I think has a future and diversifying my portfolio. Sure, I'm not making any money atm, but it may pay off in the future. I want to get my hands on as much btc, ltc, etc as I can while the diff and prices are down. I'm in this for the long haul, not a quick buck.
Nicely put, with the gold rush example. Levi's did totally great in that era of the US history. LOL Unless your a hardware/software production company, mining pool, coin dev and/or crypto exchange owner, you truly are not going to get rich in general. Think of a crypto miner being an independ contractor/work for a major company. I see alot of people not treat Crypto like stocks, when they seem to act in a similar way. Both are volatile and have huge swings. You have to do you due diligence in researching trends of crypto, like in stocks for companies. I personally stop buying gpu's at the moment, keeping most of my equipment. Waiting to see how the AMD HBM(High Bandwidth Memory) technology pans out. I usually buy my gpu's used off of Craigslist, saves me a tons of cash. LOL |
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Scrypt is going to be monopolized by ASIC's by the current outlook. We'll see how the AMD HBM(High Bandwidth Memory) technology pans out, if that can keep GPU's relevant in Scrypt Mining.
Scrypt-N is promising, but have to see what will happen when the N-Factor is super high.
I feel that Scrypt-N, X11, Quark, XPM, HVY and a few other might actually do well in the future. Innovation and evolution is truly needed in this crypto world.
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You're giving him far too much credit. I think it is safe to say that nobody legitimately takes him seriously. Its an obvious mental breakdown happening in front of your eyes. Usually you have to pay to watch such a clusterfuck of incoherent statements
+1 He's such a Deva. He revels in the drama and talks about he hates drama, super contradiction. I don't take him seriously, because every post he responds to me is "Your an idiot". Nobody takes anyone serious that has an insulting first/attack first mentality. Lastly, he say he can prove something, but never comes up with the facts to back it up. That's another sign of a person with a super compulsive nature just to stroke his false/weak ego and belittle people just to make himself sound grand to everyone, ie. internet bully. Just ignore Spoetnik or block him, if he truly getting annoying to you or bring it up to the forum admin. In general, no one should insult no one, right or wrong. Just prove the facts, then just be humble about it. |
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The DRK dev did state in the whitepapers that X11 is short~intermediate ASIC Resistant, I like the Dark Send feature. Long term, Scrypt-N is more ASIC Resistant than X11, but at the penalty of being GPU hostile. When Scrypt-N get's a extremely high N-Factor, then ASIC's would be ideal by then.
When it comes down to it, all coins are ASIC mine-able, just need a person(s) to optimize for it.
Honestly, both are good in there own way. Mine and/or trade with both. Just like the stock market, having a diverse portfolio is better than just having stock in only one company.
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Seems like the most important setting in Scrypt-N is the TC setting and running the core clock at default or a little lower. If some how someone can get Scrypt-N to lower power consumption and keep the same hash rate, that would be a goldmine....
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Honestly, the car analogy is probably a bad example. Cars and computer hardware are two different things. For example, you have a high mhz cpu dual core vs a 4 core low mhz cpu quad core. Obviously, the high mhz dual core will win most single thread processes, but the quad core will win most multi threads. In a car's case, a high revving 4 cylinder car has to do high rpm to match the same horsepower as a lower revving V8.
I'm not trying to prove anything. Truly, if you wanted to know if it was efficient or not, you would need a programmer and computer engineer to debunk it or verify it.
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I'm not making as much as two months ago. Now with the new ASIC Scrypt Miners are out, I mine my 3.2 mh/s on either X11, HVC, Myraid or any profitable non-Scrypt coin. These non-Scrypt/non-Scrypt-N algos are pretty much less heat producing and less power hungry. Also, I cpu mine XPM.
Low power consumption algos! X11 and others are the best. I´m having exactly the half of power usage per GPU with X11 Actually, in Scrypt mining I do 3.2mh/s, in X11 I do 10.5mh/s. I enjoy the cooler running card as I can run the fans at 50% or less, and enjoy the quieter rigs. Profits are nominal across all the markets, it's more of cutting power consumption costs to maximize profits at the moment. |
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How about selling the Nvidia GTX 750ti? It's pretty power efficient in terms of hash/watts, 34 watts OC'ed at 300 kh/s.
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So what's the current best combination up to 200W if you have all the other components? I could fit 4 more cards into the MB.
4x GTX 750ti... Can you run them on 1 PC with ATI cards? Best to run one type of card, either all AMD or Nvidia, mixing doesn't always work too good. I've got 6 270 hashing at 4260 mh/s pulling 740 watts from the wall. Under volted from .085-.095 mv.
About 10x GTX 750ti can hash the same rate, but at 340 watts OC'ed. |
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65 XPM, kind of a little steep, thought the target price was going to be between 20 to 50 XPM? As long as the miner is optimized and stable, and can be used for pools. |
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So what's the current best combination up to 200W if you have all the other components? I could fit 4 more cards into the MB.
4x GTX 750ti... |
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I'm not making as much as two months ago. Now with the new ASIC Scrypt Miners are out, I mine my 3.2 mh/s on either X11, HVC, Myraid or any profitable non-Scrypt coin. These non-Scrypt/non-Scrypt-N algos are pretty much less heat producing and less power hungry. Also, I cpu mine XPM.
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6 month is an unrealisticly long time to expect this not to be reverse engineered or at least cracked and resold.
As said earlier, 6 months is the time after that we guarantee to go open source. We can open source earlier if there's a more profitable GUI miner on the market. If it gets cracked, license holders will benifit from additional optimization of new non-yet-cracked versions. A couple suggestions, maybe make a trial version with a time base trial with 50%~40% less performance without the license? Or you can make it where you get a certain percentage for an free version, just like others have done, as long as you state it. Programming isn't exactly free, it's a lot of time and effort. So in either case, it can kind of self markets itself and tempt people to buy the license or you get a cut in profits. |
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This is the best hash/w card at the moment, next would be the Radeon R7 240. |
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If you need to test with a different card that's not GCN, ie 5870, 6950, 6970, etc., I have a couple ready to be tested with. If you plan to making it more universal than just the GCN cards, ie 7970, 280x, etc.
We do plan to support other cards, but not right away. I assume you have already the 4 testers already.
Actually, we do have a dozen already. It's just not all of them publish reports  Put me in line for testing for those, if needed. |
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Cryptsy would be a good exchange to get on, but more likely you can get on Poloniex and Mintpal before that.
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If you need to test with a different card that's not GCN, ie 5870, 6950, 6970, etc., I have a couple ready to be tested with. If you plan to making it more universal than just the GCN cards, ie 7970, 280x, etc. I assume you have already the 4 testers already.
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