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1741  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: Le prix du bitcoin ne cesse de chuter depuis quelque jours... on: November 07, 2016, 12:30:25 AM
alors quel sont vos nouveaux support ?..je suis monté à 530~550€..je sais je suis bas mais il s"agit de mes achats de holder pas de spec.
1742  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 07, 2016, 12:08:22 AM
Can i use wallet from blockchain,electrum,multibet hd?

yes yu can..yu need btc own adresse..just that.
1743  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: Le bitcoin devrait remonter on: November 07, 2016, 12:00:26 AM
quel baisse ?..c'est ça une baisse pour vous..à peine 10% rattrapper en 5 min..vous m'faite penser à une autruche qui se planque dès qu'elle se sent menacé  Cheesy

 
1744  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: ça va être la meeeeeeeeeeeeeerde entre 2014 et 2019. on: November 06, 2016, 11:44:47 PM

#mensonge
1745  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: preuve que le systéme bancaire mondiale va tomber on: November 05, 2016, 12:41:43 PM
ça sert à rien.

une forum est bien plus (bien moins) ... il faut finir la phrase, les vieux pourraient me comprendre en fonction de leur historique internet.

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Vous vous souvenez en 2008, quand ils disaient que tout allait bien ...
Ils refont le même coup.

http://www.businessbourse.com/2016/10/09/tout-va-tres-bien-madame-la-marquise-selon-le-gouverneur-de-la-banque-de-france/



 il y a pas de doute un avant et après 2008..vous pouvez en être sur  Roll Eyes

Pourquoi les intermédiaires de paiements sont amenés à disparaître (et c'est très bien) lorsqu'un réseau permettra l'échange de valeur sans attribuer de confiance préalable : http://nakamotoinstitute.org/trusted-third-parties/

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The invocation or assumption in a security protocol design of a "trusted third party" (TTP) or a "trusted computing base" (TCB) controlled by a third party constitutes the introduction of a security hole into that design. The security hole will then need to be plugged by other means.

Les trous de sécurités, c'est eux.





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The earliest and most popular of these has been Verisign. It has been able to charge several hundred dollars for end user certificates – far outstripping the few dollars charged (implicitly in the cost of end user software) for the security protocol code itself. The bureaucratic process of applying for and renewing certificates takes up far more time than configuring the SSL options, and the CA's identification process is subject to far greater exposure than the SSL protocol itself. Verisign amassed a stock market valuation in the 10's of billions of U.S. dollars

Les trous dans les frais d'utilisation, c'est eux.






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Large numbers of articulate professionals make their living using the skills necessary in TTP organizations. For example, the legions of auditors and lawyers who create and operate traditional control structures and legal protections. They naturally favor security models that assume they must step in and implement the real security. In new areas like e-commerce they favor new business models based on TTPs (e.g. Application Service Providers) rather than taking the time to learn new practices that may threaten their old skills.

Les trous dans les lois pour les protéger, c'est eux.









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Currently, security designers usually invoke or assume TTPs to suit the most elegant and secure or least computationally costly security protocol. These naive TTPs are then used in a proof of concept of an overall protocol architecture. But this does not discover the important things that need to be discovered. Once a security protocol is implemented the code itself costs very little, and exponential cost functions such as Moore's law keep reducing computational, bandwidth, and many other technological costs. The costs of the security protocol itself (except for the costs of message rounds, limited by the speed of light, and the costs of the user interface, limited by mental transaction costs) approach zero. By far the largest long-term cost of the system (as we learned with PKI) is the cost of implementing the TTPs.

L'inefficacité des protections (à court ou moyen terme), c'est eux.









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Traditional security is costly and risky. Digital security when designed well diminishes dramatically in cost over time. When a protocol designer invokes or assumes a TTP, (s)he is creating the need for a novel organization to try to solve an unsolved security problem via traditional security and control methods. Especially in a digital context these methods require continuing high expenditures by the TTP and the TTP creates a bottleneck which imposes continuing high costs and risks on the end user.

La conclusion.




Ce document existe depuis 2001.



lol c'est Urssaf, Cancras et Carbalas  Cheesy

1746  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 04, 2016, 07:38:04 PM
What do you mean by "allow access to the private keys to official wallet"?

It is impossible to export private key in testnet..we can just import key..if wallet crash how can us restor it ?..privat key is an security allowing export fonds..so plan yu to allow this fonctionality in official wallet.

Unlike Bitcoin, private key in Byteball is not enough to restore access to funds.  Hence, to avoid giving false sense of security, I removed the export function.


happy friday to all frds


tonych can u explain what is the recovery easy system will be for final official wallet ..

need easy 1-2-3 steps to acces byteballs and send them ...


Two options:
1. (crazy) back up the app's data folder (e.g. on windows C:\users\<your user name>\AppData\Local\Byteball test).  You'll have to do that every time you send or receive blackbytes or any other private asset.

 Grin
2. (practical) set up a multisig wallet with redundancy on two or more devices.  E.g. 1-of-2 on desktop+smartphone.  If one of the devices fails, you still can spend the funds from the other device.
 Grin

thanks testing this solution now

 Cool

i suggest to you first soluce..my multisig wallet has crash and i cant recover my founds now  Wink
1747  Local / Altcoins (Français) / Re: IOTA c'est quoi? on: November 04, 2016, 07:34:01 PM
attend je comprend pas..sur ce threed ; https://nxtforum.org/asset-exchange-general/iota-coin/20/ 1 IOTACOIN en vaut 2 779 530..peut tu m'expliquer ?

L'unité a changé donc les assets créés avant le changement ont une valeur différente. L'unité des assets ne pouvant être changé, il faut soit re-créer un asset, soit donner une conversion équivalente.

1 ancien IOTA = 2 779 530 IOTA


tu parle de IOAT classic ?
1748  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 04, 2016, 08:42:26 AM
I found the bug and it will be fixed in the next release.
If you turned password protection on and created any new wallets _after_ that, these wallets are broken because of the bug.
You'll have to delete any such wallets on all devices.

It was a serious bug and you deserve a bounty for helping to discover it.  Please PM me you bitcoin address Smiley


ok but i will lost all my bytes test if i remove all wallet..so i can save my bytes or not ?

i pm yu  i no want reward i'm happy to help yu..just dont forget me for andro byte reward  Grin
Unfortunately you can't spend testbytes from these wallets.  Not a big reason to be upset because it is only testbytes.
I appreciate your help very much!  Nevertheless feel free to change your mind.

ok..i wait corrected version..plan you to allow access to the private keys to official wallet ?

i like cats if yu have one..buy him a present for chrismace if it is wise Wink

To be clear, the upgrade won't fix the wallets that are already broken.
What do you mean by "allow access to the private keys to official wallet"?

It is impossible to export private key in testnet..we can just import key..if wallet crash how can us restor it ?..privat key is an security allowing export fonds..so plan yu to allow this fonctionality in official wallet.
1749  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: La dictature parfaite on: November 04, 2016, 01:04:02 AM
 ça sent le flic sous pression..la politique de la matraque contre le citoyen honnête c'est pas un scoop..ils ne faut pas se voilé la face ils sont aussi responsable de leur victimisation..de toute façon il n'y aura bientôt plus de statut de fonctionnaire et c'est tant mieux..qu'ils ne sentent pas intouchable ça leur fera prendre conscience que la justice s'applique à tous et toutes même à eux.

de toute façon les lois françaises sont mal faites et protègent les vrais criminelles..délinquants..c'est bien connu il y a que des innocents en prison..concernant la légitime défense ils ont pas l'air de s'en privé et en abusent même à mon gout..on finira par en arriver à ce que le citoyen l'ambda se fasse justice par ce qu'ils sont incapable de faire respecter la loi..un flic en mission c'est insécurisant par c'qu'il porte un flingue pas pour défendre mais pour se défendre.

on dit que la justice à le bras long..mais ce qu'on oublie c'est qu'elle est sourde muette et aveugle.
1750  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 04, 2016, 12:12:47 AM
I found the bug and it will be fixed in the next release.
If you turned password protection on and created any new wallets _after_ that, these wallets are broken because of the bug.
You'll have to delete any such wallets on all devices.

It was a serious bug and you deserve a bounty for helping to discover it.  Please PM me you bitcoin address Smiley


ok but i will lost all my bytes test if i remove all wallet..so i can save my bytes or not ?

i pm yu  i no want reward i'm happy to help yu..just dont forget me for andro byte reward  Grin
Unfortunately you can't spend testbytes from these wallets.  Not a big reason to be upset because it is only testbytes.
I appreciate your help very much!  Nevertheless feel free to change your mind.

ok..i wait corrected version..plan you to allow access to the private keys to official wallet ?

i like cats if yu have one..buy him a present for chrismace if it is wise Wink
1751  Local / Altcoins (Français) / Re: Quelles sont les cryptomonnaies prometteuses ? on: November 03, 2016, 11:55:27 PM
quelqu'un a investi dans augur ? si oui dans quel optique ?..holding ou spécu ?

Dans ta phrase holding = specu.
pour info:
Soi tu hedges, soi t'arbitres, soi tu specules

pas vraiment nn..je pense avoir été clair..mais chez vous les suisses ça veut surement dire la même chose vu le taux de change à la frontière Roll Eyes
1752  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: Convertissez-vous votre épargne en bitcoin ? on: November 03, 2016, 09:49:39 PM
1 euros 20.

c'est 1 pain choco dorée à l'or fin ou quoi  Cheesy 2€ la boite de 10 à carrouf  Wink
1753  Local / Altcoins (Français) / Re: Quelles sont les cryptomonnaies prometteuses ? on: November 03, 2016, 09:36:29 PM
quelqu'un a investi dans augur ? si oui dans quel optique ?..holding ou spécu ?
1754  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 03, 2016, 08:32:33 PM
update wallet well done but i a error message when i submit an transac like this : uncaught exception : error : unexpected validation error : bad signature at path r.O can yu help me pls

Is it multisig wallet?  Please describe all steps before the error.

yes multisig but not activat (1 of 2#1)..when i send BBs at adresse wallet it isn't exe..error messa close my wallet..just that.

i activat multisig on my andro wallet paired with pc wall..when i submit transac..i have other error message : an exeption occurred: bitcore. Error invalid argument: invalid argument: no valid string was provided; cause: undefined

but  simple wallet work..its multisig wall wich has problem

Let me confirm that understand you correctly:
1.  You tried to created a 1-of-2 multisig wallet on PC+android, correct?
2.  You created it on PC but didn't approve it on android
3.  You try to send a transaction from this wallet on your PC and receive error "bad signature at path r.0"
4.  At the same time your android says "invalid argument: no valid string was provided"

I not try.. I create multisig wallet on pc & andro and paired it.. Before update it was working.. After update i a error when i try to send BBs.

Is it password protected?  Could you please remove password protection and try again?

done..always cannot  Sad

i cancel multisig wallet on my pc..now i can open it..just have an error R.1 when i want access and it closes..andro multisig wallet doesn't always work..i can receive but not send.

i uninstall wallet..reinstall..i always r.1 error and my balance Huh how this is possible ?

I found the bug and it will be fixed in the next release.
If you turned password protection on and created any new wallets _after_ that, these wallets are broken because of the bug.
You'll have to delete any such wallets on all devices.

It was a serious bug and you deserve a bounty for helping to discover it.  Please PM me you bitcoin address Smiley


ok but i will lost all my bytes test if i remove all wallet..so i can save my bytes or not ?

i pm yu  i no want reward i'm happy to help yu..just dont forget me for andro byte reward  Grin
1755  Local / Altcoins (Français) / Re: IOTA c'est quoi? on: November 03, 2016, 06:21:13 PM
Le prix des iota sur l'ae vous semble-t-il correct ? (autour de 3,4 nxt)

Je pense que c'est beaucoup mais mon opinion n'a aucune valeur.
S'il y a des gens prêt à mettre 3.4 NXT pour 1 IOTA alors c'est le juste prix.
Seul le marché a raison.


attend je comprend pas..sur ce threed ; https://nxtforum.org/asset-exchange-general/iota-coin/20/ 1 IOTACOIN en vaut 2 779 530..peut tu m'expliquer ?
1756  Local / Altcoins (Français) / Re: Zcash, concurrent du bitcoin intraçable on: November 03, 2016, 05:35:54 PM
pourquoi vouloir remplacer btc..zcash n'a rien à voir avec bitcoin..il prone la non traçabilité..le contraire de bitcoin..mais tous cela est déjà possible avec btc..il suffit d'être un peu éclairer..autrement si un concurrent doit se faire connaitre j'irai plutôt voir du coté de IOTA qui propose une toute nouvelle évolution..que bitcoin ne peu pas se permettre..ce zcash encore un coin qui va finir sur le darknet.
1757  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 03, 2016, 10:00:49 AM
update wallet well done but i a error message when i submit an transac like this : uncaught exception : error : unexpected validation error : bad signature at path r.O can yu help me pls

Is it multisig wallet?  Please describe all steps before the error.

yes multisig but not activat (1 of 2#1)..when i send BBs at adresse wallet it isn't exe..error messa close my wallet..just that.

i activat multisig on my andro wallet paired with pc wall..when i submit transac..i have other error message : an exeption occurred: bitcore. Error invalid argument: invalid argument: no valid string was provided; cause: undefined

but  simple wallet work..its multisig wall wich has problem

Let me confirm that understand you correctly:
1.  You tried to created a 1-of-2 multisig wallet on PC+android, correct?
2.  You created it on PC but didn't approve it on android
3.  You try to send a transaction from this wallet on your PC and receive error "bad signature at path r.0"
4.  At the same time your android says "invalid argument: no valid string was provided"

I not try.. I create multisig wallet on pc & andro and paired it.. Before update it was working.. After update i a error when i try to send BBs.

Is it password protected?  Could you please remove password protection and try again?

done..always cannot  Sad

i cancel multisig wallet on my pc..now i can open it..just have an error R.1 when i want access and it closes..andro multisig wallet doesn't always work..i can receive but not send.

i uninstall wallet..reinstall..i always r.1 error and my balance Huh how this is possible ?
1758  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 03, 2016, 09:54:21 AM
Money supply

The total number of bytes is 1015, all bytes will be issued in the genesis transaction. Since the fees paid are returned into the circulation, the money supply will remain the same.

Deterministic finality


LOL thats mean 1.000.000.000.000.000 coins

Are you fucking crazy thats mean 10 million bitcoin market capital at 1 satoshi

And you want to keep 1% of that, 10.000.000.000.000 coins for you, so around 100,000 Bitcoins for you ? ? ?


Most Stupid Coin i ever read, place this shitcoin in your an...  Grin


I do not think there most stupide coin that doge   Roll EyesCheesy
1759  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 02, 2016, 09:38:27 PM
OMG i have big bals in my wallet..dev pls help me !

1760  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: November 02, 2016, 08:45:04 PM
update wallet well done but i a error message when i submit an transac like this : uncaught exception : error : unexpected validation error : bad signature at path r.O can yu help me pls

Is it multisig wallet?  Please describe all steps before the error.

yes multisig but not activat (1 of 2#1)..when i send BBs at adresse wallet it isn't exe..error messa close my wallet..just that.

i activat multisig on my andro wallet paired with pc wall..when i submit transac..i have other error message : an exeption occurred: bitcore. Error invalid argument: invalid argument: no valid string was provided; cause: undefined

but  simple wallet work..its multisig wall wich has problem

Let me confirm that understand you correctly:
1.  You tried to created a 1-of-2 multisig wallet on PC+android, correct?
2.  You created it on PC but didn't approve it on android
3.  You try to send a transaction from this wallet on your PC and receive error "bad signature at path r.0"
4.  At the same time your android says "invalid argument: no valid string was provided"

I not try.. I create multisig wallet on pc & andro and paired it.. Before update it was working.. After update i a error when i try to send BBs.

Is it password protected?  Could you please remove password protection and try again?

done..always cannot  Sad

i cancel multisig wallet on my pc..now i can open it..just have an error R.1 when i want access and it closes..andro multisig wallet doesn't always work..i can receive but not send.
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