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1741  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Alts fall, Bitcoin falls ... where is the money going? on: July 12, 2017, 12:47:01 AM
Hi

Thread title says it basically.

Almost all Altcoins are currently falling, which means they are dumped for Bitcoins.

So Bitcoins should be bought and therefore rising => but they are also falling.

Why is that?
and segwit may make bitcoin split into two like ETH and ETC so I think most bitcoin holders will turn bitcoin into fiat. not all holders are brave enough to keep hold of bitcoin at the moment.
1742  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you scared to hold until August 1? on: July 12, 2017, 12:42:16 AM
I prefer to sell bitcoin and wait till 1 august my friend also suggest this. indeed the decrease of almost all cryptocurrency values makes me a little tense but I'm not scared in this case.
1743  Other / Off-topic / Re: What to do with my bitcoins ? on: July 11, 2017, 03:12:22 AM
if you want to spend your bitcoin in an online shop that receives bitcoin you should first calculate the transaction fee and compare if using fiat at the same time the risk like confirmation that takes a long time.
1744  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to earn Bitcoin without investment on: July 11, 2017, 02:55:06 AM
Hey Bitcoiners? I'm desperate to start earning BTC
I'll do any kind of online activity as long as there's a Bitcoin payment. Where do I start?
in this forum you can get bitcoin without investment. build your account then join in the signature campaign or bounty campaign like social media blog/website and translator in your country.
1745  Economy / Economics / Re: When to buy and sell bitcoin on: July 10, 2017, 01:58:14 AM
buy bitcoin when bitcoin trend goes down and sell it as trend rises for the right time you can estimate it and sell it when the price is higher than the buy price. my opinion if you want to buy now you should think first because on august 1 there will be segwit.
1746  Economy / Economics / Re: How long could bitcoin last? on: July 10, 2017, 01:50:31 AM
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As of right now, the bitcoin price is expected to keep going up in the next 20 years. But can it last that long? I believe it's possible. But can't it crash at a random time? Like the price going down hard.
no one knows what's going on in the future so the crash that cause bitcoin can't survive may indeed exist and all speculation is on 1st august. it's better to follow the things that happen in the future.
1747  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your plans with your Bitcoin? on: July 09, 2017, 10:45:19 AM
my plan I will still be in the bitcoin world as long as it is still profitable and the profits of bitcoin will be saved in the form of real estate investment and savings for my future if I can't been able to plunge a lot in the world of cryptocurrency.
1748  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Afraid of August One? on: July 09, 2017, 10:39:58 AM
Im on the decision of taking profit right now and convert my btc into fiat because i am really afraid of august 1, but after reading all the post here i am convince that many people here are being optimistic and see bitcoin will surely rise after the said downfall, and now i realized that the bip148 will surely helps us to make the fees low and for a faster transaction.

My advice is don't be a weak hand and sell your bitcoins. don't believe what you see upfront, not everything is true as they appear. be a stong hand who is not easily shaken.

bitcoin will either go up or down. if it goes down, just buy more because the price will just go back again . imo bitcoin and its community is strong enough to withstand the

negative effects that might occur on the given date.

The impact will affect towards the end of this month, I think bitcoin will return like two months ago where the movement is only played by the market. So far, the news that keeps bitcoin price down makes the bitcoin price higher, I'm part of a community that believes and tries to keep bitcoin stable.

Really appreciate it, i will hold onto it until it hit my target price, now im not afraid for the said august 1. I am now convince to hold and dont sell on panic because bitcoin will surely bounce back, after its a good community.
if bitcoin go down in 1st august it's a good opportunity to buy as long as don't panic about the down of bitcoin price its can be a advantage. I tried to hold bitcoin until 1 august I was very curious on that day.
1749  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: cara mengenal scam on: July 09, 2017, 10:25:18 AM
Ada caranya gak gimana mengetahui sebuah situs scam atau situs tipu-tipu?
agar kita-kita yang para newbie gak terjebak dengan itu.
jangan mudah di bohongi dengan iming-iming keuntungan besar dalam jangka waktu yang dekat dan tidak begitu jelas sumber keuntungannya. lihat track record mereka dulu jika anda tertarik pada apa yang mereka berikan.
1750  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: share bisnis kalian dari hasil bitcoin on: July 08, 2017, 04:37:47 AM
untuk bisnis sih belum kepikiran karena kemungkinan menyita waktu banyak dan nggak harus setenga-setengah ngebangun sebuah bisnis dan juga mikirin sebuah bisnis harus benar-benar matang.
1751  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Apa itu Bounty Campaign? Dan cara mengikutinya bagaimana? on: July 08, 2017, 04:31:57 AM
Ada banyak cara mengikuti bounty campaign, salah satunya seperti bounty fb/twitter,rules sudah ada di setiap bounty campaignnya, tugas kita hanya mempromosikan.
berarti untuk mencari bitcoin kita hanya mempromosikan ya gan. dan mengenalkan coin coin yang baru muncul. apa selain mempromosikan ada pekerjaan lain gan yang hasilnya lebih besar dan sayarat untuk mengikutinya apa?.maklum masih baru perlu bimbingan
bounty campaign emang harus promosiin iconya tapi kalau selain signature atau sosial media yang bayarannya lumayan itu ada. seperti translator itu bayarannya gede tapi setidaknya bahasa inggris pasifnya baguslah gak cuma modal google translate dan artikel blog/website juga ada.
1752  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The reason that keeps me from investing in bitcoin on: July 08, 2017, 02:04:34 AM
In this time it is good reason to invest money to buy bitcoin because of its pumping market value every time, you can even invest and forget it for a year or you can play it with some exchange site to do trading your bitcoin from time to time.
not pumping at every time sometimes there's also dump. buying bitcoin and forgetting it's a strange investment way and it's not that simple to invest in bitcoin you have to think about the profits and the time you spend.
1753  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is working fine! No change needed! on: July 07, 2017, 01:10:44 AM
Bitcoin has proven, that it is works fine, even through times of different attack modes (FUD, spam, patenting, +, XT, RV, CW etc). I don't think we have a pressure to raise the blocksize or to force the mass adaption. We don't need no SegWit to make Bitcoin great again, because it is already. Give this baby time to grow, folks.
bitcoin is still fine after a lot of attacks are true and I think perhaps the change is indeed needed not only to adjust the mass adoption but also to make bitcoin better. changes are needed to adjust the progress of the times.
1754  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it too late to buy bitcoin? on: July 07, 2017, 12:57:41 AM
we also don't know on the 1st of August whether the price changes of bitcoin decreased or even rose which cause the chain split. too late or not to buying bitcoin nobody knows but from some predictions they say chain split could cause a bitcoin price reduction.
1755  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bagaimana cara menjelaskan bitcoin kepada pemula? on: July 07, 2017, 12:49:26 AM
memang agak sulit menjelaskan bitcoin sih apalagi bitcoin adalah mata uang digital yang tidak mempunyai bentuk apalagi jika menjelaskan ke orang yang gak begitu mengerti teknologi. menurut saya sih jika ingin menjelaskan dibarengi dengan praktek dan kita hanya perlu menjelaskan bagaimana cara memperoleh bitcoin dari berbagai sumber karena yang membuat teman anda penasaran pada bitcoin adalah penghasilannya.
1756  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Kenapa Mau Mengenal Bitcoin Harus Terjatuh dulu ?? on: July 07, 2017, 12:39:47 AM
Permisi Agan" sekalian , ane mau sharing lagi nih
Ada ngga di antara agan semua yg mau mengenal Bitcoin  setelah terjatuh alias ( Ngga Ada Penghasilan Lain/Ngga Ada Kerjaan Lain ) ..??

kalau saya sih mengenal dan mau tahu tentang bitcoin sudah sangat lama mungkin saat masih sekolah. saat terjatuh adalah saat-saat kita lebih menghargai suatu hal beserta potensinya. menurutku banyak yang mau mengenal bitcoin setelah terjatuh apalagi bitcoin bisa di hasilkan dengan gratis.
1757  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: apa yang terpenting bagi seorang newbie untuk cepat bisa Signature Compaign? on: July 06, 2017, 02:44:51 AM
sabar aja gan masih baru soalnya mending jangan mikirin penghasilan dulu tapi kalau ngebet banget yang daftar yang altcoin kalau udah jr.member. diawal proses memang kelihatan susah tapi kalau udah dijalanin akan terasa mudah kok. fokus bikin posting dan post di board yang berkualitas kalau post juga jangan 1 baris mulu.
1758  Other / Off-topic / Re: Would you give bitcoin as a wedding gift? on: July 06, 2017, 02:28:33 AM
it depends whether they know bitcoin or not so we can easily ask the bitcoin address and give him bitcoin. I prefer a gift that could be useful to them or the gift they want especially for my best friend.
1759  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is instant way to get rich ? on: July 06, 2017, 02:19:24 AM
This may be true or may not be as its a matter of luck and skills when the btc was purchased. Some one who had purchased at around 200$ had made a quick buck then those who had invested at 1000$ around couple of years had to wait for 2 years + to get the return. So even people have lost the big amount in it.

what you say that is true but not instant because to earning bitcoin we takes a time skill luck and effort and mean of instant in my opinion is you don't need time to rich.
1760  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where is it safe to store money? on: July 06, 2017, 02:07:09 AM
If you own a huge amount of bitcoin, then it is really worth the effort of securing it to the maximum level. But if you are just starting out and only have a small amount, I think online wallets are still ok, just for the sake of convenience. But as others have mentioned, the safety of your bitcoins depend on how much your online wallet provider takes care of their security.
and depending on how the owner keeps his account like ignoring his email which is likely to be phishing or any other suspicious matter. for huge bitcoin is not recommended for online wallet or wallet in exchanger.
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