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1761  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin a good way to invest your money ? on: October 04, 2017, 09:39:19 PM
Like the process to use your aforementioned ones to grow our money as well as bitcoins. With Bitcoins if you only hold it it will increase in price and you earn in the long run. Just like what's happening now almost x2 Bitcoins raised just over a month. How else if you hold it for a years ?
If you do not know what to do, look at the charts of bitcoins or read what I said. By 2015 the bitcoins price is now 200 $ at just about 2017 almost 5,000. I see how many of you will now be able to bring it out and buy it in fiat moneys

Don't forget just because you hold doesn't make the price constantly go up forever. You also need to spend you Bitcoins to prove they have value. If you never spend, or if no one ever spent I should say, then there would literally be no point of Bitcoin except storing wealth, but even then it would be pointless because there would be zero intrinsic value as opposed to gold, for example, which can still be used to buy things.

I think bitcoin is a good way to invest money because the value of bitcoin is growing over time like gold.
It is better to invest your money in bitcoin than to go and save in the bank where they'll give you very small interest over long time.
Investing your money in bitcoin is way better and more profitable than saving your money in the bank for long time.
1762  Economy / Economics / Re: what will happen to banks? on: October 04, 2017, 09:32:42 PM
what is a bank?

it is just a service that is offered on money. these services are so many different things. such as loans, credit cards, savings account, Checking accounts, other types of account i don't know the name of in English Tongue, Insurance stuff, Mortgages, Safty Deposit boxes, ...

banks doesn't have to be affected by bitcoin or bockchain technology. it is just a different form of money!

Yes, banks has their ways of milking the public such as loans, mortgages, unnecessary bank charges and so on.
Bitcoin will not entirely remove banks out of the way because Governments and majority of the people are still using bank for their financial saving.
1763  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin reduces unemployment on: October 04, 2017, 09:25:55 PM
In addition to reducing unemployment bitcoin can also be an alternative to find additional money for those who already work
Yes I agree with this in addition to reducing unemployment bitcoin able to supplement income for people who are already working, But indeed in fact true with the bitcoin able to reduce unemployment so bitcoin able to make people make money by alternative way.
In this case bitcoin is able to help our economy.
I think in the presence of bitcoin will reduce unemployment, because searching for bitcoin also requires hard work and creativity, and competitiveness in bitcoin is also high almost similar to work in the real world

What is your opinion this time?

Bitcoins aide temporarily some unemployed person but don't be so hook to it and be dependable since we doesn't know on when bitcoin could last so we should need to find decent job so that it can cather our need if bitcoins will fall or maybe try to build a little business where it can be your 2nd option so that we have another choices if things go bad in bitcoins.

Bitcoin has provided the opportunity for people to earn extra income. people are now investing their money into bitcoin in order to make profit in the future. Bitcoin value is growing in time like the how the value of gold growing in time, but the value of bitcoin is growing more faster than that of gold. Most people now believe more on bitcoin than gold because bitcoin provide more profit compared to gold over time.
1764  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][$200K] [ICO] SLVR: The First ERC20 Token Backed by Silver! on: October 04, 2017, 07:44:32 PM
Good day Sylon.

I just want to update my rank full member to Sr.member hope you will update my rank. Thank you! And also I update my signature.

Your rank has been updated.

please tell us how to find out how many steaks we have?

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Hi Sylon,

It appears the SLVR ICO is ending tomorrow.

So when are we going to start submitting our twitter reports?

I worked hard on this one. Just want to pay my tuition fees.

Thank you for understanding.


Regards,
cybersofts

 

You don't need to make reports. We will analyse twitter data on our own.

Ok, too bad for me because I copied all my tweets and retweets urls waiting for the time to submit. Cheesy

Thanks for the reply... waiting to see our stakes based on your analysed data.
1765  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] MINERVA (OWL) 🦉 Smart Money on 💎 Ethereum on: October 04, 2017, 01:57:32 AM
Hi ColorlessK,

I found 2 scammers on Facebook spreadsheet using my username: cybersofts

Scammers number on Facebook spreadsheet are #586 & 587 - While my original number is #537.

You should disqualify these scammers before the of the ICO because I don't want any trouble in the future.

Thank you for understanding.


Best regards,
cybersofts
 
1766  Economy / Services / Re: ★★ Social-Media Campaign for Narbonne ★★ [twitter/facebook] on: October 03, 2017, 09:20:57 PM
Hi Joel_Jantsen,

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Done for the week... thanks Smiley

Hi Joel_Jantsen,

Still didn't get my payments for last week.

Thanks Smiley
1767  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][$200K] [ICO] SLVR: The First ERC20 Token Backed by Silver! on: October 03, 2017, 09:07:42 PM
Hi Sylon,

It appears the SLVR ICO is ending tomorrow.

So when are we going to start submitting our twitter reports?

I worked hard on this one. Just want to pay my tuition fees.

Thank you for understanding.


Regards,
cybersofts

 
1768  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why some people prefer Bitcoin over fiat ? on: October 03, 2017, 08:59:47 PM
Bitcoin is being used widely in porn sites, gambling and drug dealing sectors.

do you actually have some reliable reference for this?
or are you saying this because you saw some popular topics in this board filled with hundreds of comment?

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Is that why the btc made for ? I have seen a lot of members in this forum discussing about buying drugs, gambling and enjoying porn with bitcoin. Is not it a misuse of a currency ? Block chain tech is a awesome tech and btc is getting popular. I hate these misuses of precious btc. It hurts me. This will lead into unhealthy society along with unhealthy future generation.

of course bitcoin is not made for that.
it is a currency first of all and that makes it the same as any other currency, people use them to pay for all kinds of things. you can pay for your bills or buy drugs with both USD and BTC. not much difference there.

I have seen thousands of posts and comments regarding uses of bitcoin in  porn and gambling. You can find it in this forum with minimum effort too. I know bitcoin has great potentials and I also know that there are some bad user of bitcoin like any other currency. But my point is, those bad users are a lot in number. And as bitcoin is not globally adopted, those users really play great impact on impression of btc, I guess


Take it easy friend, is their bitcoin let them do what they wish. Bitcoin is far beyond the usage of few negative minds that used it for negative things. Don't forget people also use fiat to buy drugs or make payments for porn sites also. I believe bitcoin is reshaping how people will use money in the future. Don't let the activities few negative people with bitcoin ruin your day. Use bitcoin the way you like it and let rest of the world use it too... That's what is called freedom!
1769  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why use Bitcoins ? on: October 03, 2017, 08:45:05 PM
Why use Bitcoins ?

I keep seeing threads on “why don't people” ? The real question to me is Why would they ?

-The average consumer will go way out of their way to save money. Bitcoins cost more.
-The average consumer will usually pay a little extra to have convenience. Bitcoin is less convenience and more hoops and complications.

I just cannot see any reason for the average consumer to use Bitcoins. Until average consumers start using Bitcoins they will just be an experiment and a small speculative bubble.

I have my personal reasons, I am interested Bitcoins them as a tech person, speculative investor and person that follows evolving treads and markets. I am just struggling to see any.. benefits for the average consumer at this stage.  

Bitcoin was not designed in the way you are describing it. Bitcoin was not made for people to use it to buy groceries and everyday spending with. It is meant as an investment option, similar to gold.

Bitcoin is also fairly anoymous, especially if you use multiple addresses. Think of bitcoin as gold and compare them. They re both investments but Bitcoin has the abilibity to be spent online.
Bitcoin is not only a vessel to store value but it's also really useful in the remittance industry. I can send 100,000$ paying a mere 4$ in fees with Bitcoin while it would cost me 3000$ with PayPal and I'd take some risk to do the paypal transaction while doing the same thing from a traditional bank would cost some money,time & would probably raise questions.
Yeah, I think the guy here has a good answer to this very question.
Bitcoin was designed to disrupt PayPal and other expensive means of send money from one person to another.
Bitcoin provide the solution in such a way that people can send large amount of money in a fast and secure way with very low transaction fees.
Using bitcoin is simple and easy - yet the transactions are instant all over the world. Bitcoin knows no customs, no borders, or regulations whatsoever.
1770  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you a True Believer? on: October 03, 2017, 08:19:41 PM
I see alot of people are holding Bitcoins and are convinced that their coins would multiply in value. The same people preach the Bitcoin ideology that its P2P,  decentralised, low to nil send or receive etc.

However, only a small group of people today are using Bitcoins as they were intended. And the fees are not exactly cheap to buy Bitcoins, not to mention those exchange places are basically like banks.

So my question is, are you a True believer of Bitcoins and other Cryptocurrencies that it will one day replace paper money, decentralised and all. Or are you only a believer that the price will continue to climb and you'll one day be a millionaire?

I simply find it fascinating that its apparent, people are preaching the benefits of Bitcoins but they are not using them. Preaching to newbies and drive up the demand and prices of the coins.
Rather, I would love to see people who really believe in Bitcoins, actually going out there and using the coins to purchase products, send/receive coins and let the coins circulate around. I would love to see that day. When the prices are not so volatile, and the coins are being used as they were intended. However, not being volatile also means the prices would rise sharply like it has been this year, which also means you wont be a millionaire holding onto them coins.

So are you a True Believer?



Sad to know the truth but the thing you are saying on here is the truth on which most people do really see Bitcoin as a form of investment not really on its main purpose but well we cant blame them or even ourselves to engage such thing because no people doesn't really like to have money or earn money on bitcoin.This is really the advantage or goodness why bitcoin is popular.Its a new way payment system and at the same time a money making opportunity.

Yes, you speak the truth my friend. I think there are new things to be updated on bitcoin like lowering transaction fees, increasing transaction speed and so on. But still bitcoin is good currency to buy and sell product with, and we know for sure there may be some updates in the future that might settle the current issues with bitcoin. As we go through time many people will demand these updates which may lead to their implementation on original bitcoin core. 
1771  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Amazon May Accept Bitcoin By October. Do you believe? on: October 03, 2017, 08:06:37 PM
There are news about accepting bitcoin as a payment at Amazon. Here is the link to cointelegraph article. If this would be true we will get huge pump of the whole cryptocurrency market at October/November. What do you think about it? Just one more rumor?

It is just a rumor because that is not true. read the article below for more information.

Debunked: Rumor that Amazon Will Accept Bitcoin “Fake News”
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/debunked-rumor-amazon-will-accept-bitcoin-fake-news/
1772  Economy / Economics / Re: When is the right time to buy bitcoin ? on: October 03, 2017, 11:31:51 AM
After the recent news re. BTC China and regulators crackdown on cryptocurrency trading, we all know which direction bitcoin and alt coins are currently heading. I wish to buy Bitcoin and Altcoin when they hit the floor, but i am unsure of when the right time is to enter?



You answer is nobody know exactly when the value of bitcoin or any altcoin will hit the final dip in price.
The only solution to buying bitcoin in low price is when people are panic and starts dumping their coins for one or two days then you should buy.
Anything after the first 1-2 days after the panic period will be on the rise again most of the time. But it think even now you are not late to buy bitcoin before it gets more higher and set the new all time high in price because for sure that will happen again in the future.
1773  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin money? on: October 03, 2017, 11:24:04 AM
Yes, Bitcoin is digital currency that you can use to buy and sell a product both online and offline.
Bitcoin transactions are very fast, very secure, very cheap transaction fees and fully decentralized.
With bitcoin you can send and receive money all over the world, no customs, no borders, no regulations whatsoever. 
1774  Bitcoin / Press / [2017-10-02] U.S May Follow Japan to License Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency Exchange on: October 02, 2017, 11:17:08 PM
The US government may follow the roadmap of Japan in regulating trading activities around cryptocurrencies such as bitcoin and Ethereum.

Last week, the Japanese government and its financial regulator the Financial Services Agency (FSA) officially authorized and licensed 11 cryptocurrency exchanges including BitFlyer, the country’s largest trading platform with over 800,000 users.

In a statement, Yuzo Kano, the CEO at BitFlyer, emphasized that the establishment of practical regulations for cryptocurrency exchanges and investors by the Japanese government would allow the country’s cryptocurrency market to position itself at the epicenter of global cryptocurrency trading, development, and innovation.

“Japan has been exploding with demand for both bitcoin trading as well as virtual currency services. The FSA’s approval for bitFlyer to operate as a Registered Virtual Currency Exchange, and the agency’s openness and forward thinking regulation could not come at a better time for the blockchain space,” said Kano.

Governments Can Either Do Nothing or Create a Fair Ecosystem For Exchanges

Earlier this year, at the Blockchain NZ conference held in Auckland, New Zealand, bitcoin and security expert Andreas Antonopoulos explained that governments can either leave the cryptocurrency exchange sector as is or create a more transparent, fair, and efficient environment for businesses.

“Governments can choose to either do nothing – which is okay; make things worse for cryptocurrency trading – like what Australia did by imposing sales taxes on all cryptocurrency transactions; or they can make things easier for companies by reining in the banks and encouraging companies by creating a level playing field,” said Antonopoulos.

By authorizing and licensing cryptocurrency exchanges, the Japanese government has officially recognized cryptocurrency exchanges as regulated financial service providers, allowing the companies to fully operate as legal financial companies within the country. Already, within less than a week, the optimistic approach from Japan’s FSA in regulating cryptocurrency markets has triggered an increase in demand toward bitcoin and as a result, the daily trading volume of Japan, the largest bitcoin exchange market in the world, has risen at a rapid rate. The growing demand toward bitcoin is also evident in the price trend of bitcoin, as the bitcoin price surpassed the $4,470 mark earlier today, on October 2.

The US Government May Follow Japan in Licensing Exchanges

At an event hosted by the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, acting Comptroller of the Currency Keith Noreika told reporters that he is open toward cryptocurrency exchanges applying for bank status. Noreika also noted that he is considering the imposition of a nationwide licensing program for cryptocurrency exchanges, eliminating regional licenses such as New York’s BitLicense and releasing a unified regulatory framework for cryptocurrency trading platforms and investors.

“I wouldn’t be adverse to those people coming in and talking to the [Office of the Comptroller of the Currency] about how a charter could make sense for them. But that is a long process they’d have to go through, and just because you get in the door doesn’t mean you’re going to get out the door on the other side,” said Noreika.

It could take a longer period for the US government and its financial regulators to offer unified licensing programs for cryptocurrency exchanges and bitcoin businesses. But, it is an optimistic indicator of bitcoin growth that the US, the second largest bitcoin exchange market behind Japan, is carefully considering creating a more robust and well-regulated market for investors and general consumers.



Source: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/the-us-may-follow-japan-to-license-bitcoin-and-cryptocurrency-exchanges/
1775  Bitcoin / Press / [2017-10-02] Japan is poised to become the leading bitcoin market on: October 02, 2017, 11:13:26 PM
Japan is poised to become the leading bitcoin market after China fucked up!

First, China banned initial coin offerings (ICOs), a red-hot new method for blockchain-based startups to raise money in a token sale; then officials ordered Chinese bitcoin exchanges like OKcoin and Huobi, some of the biggest exchanges by volume in the world, to halt trading of fiat currency (yuan) for cryptocurrency (crypto to crypto trading is still permitted).

They were crippling blows to what was previously the leading global market for bitcoin activity. And last week, South Korea followed suit in banning ICOs.

In their place, look for Japan to become the leading bitcoin market.

In April, Japan officially recognized bitcoin as legal currency and will regulate it accordingly. That boosted the price globally and boosted bitcoin trading volume on Japanese exchanges. (In May, Australia followed suit.) Meanwhile, Japanese internet giant GMO Internet is investing $3 million to launch a bitcoin mining operation next year.

China crackdown boosts Japan

As bitcoin mining (the process of uploading “blocks” of transaction records to the bitcoin blockchain, a public ledger) became more and more prohibitively expensive, requiring large machinery to compute quickly, China became the leading country for mining. (And to be clear, there has not yet been any ban on bitcoin mining in China.) Chinese investors also ramped up bitcoin buying since last year, when the People’s Bank of China (PBOC) tightened capital controls. Bitcoin is thought to be a “safe haven” for when a nation’s currency is faltering and a hedge against general market uncertainty; with the yuan falling, bitcoin took off in China. Until now.

Japan is already pulling ahead in the aftermath of China’s crackdown.

Look at the below chart of trading activity by currency in the past 30 days: the biggest slice has been bitcoin trading in the Japanese yen (45%) vs. the U.S. dollar (30%). Note also how the biggest exchanges by activity have been Coincheck and bitFlyer, both in Japan. (It helps that the yen has dipped vs the dollar in the past week.)

Bitcoin price still cruising

To be sure, the China crackdown has hardly crushed the price of bitcoin overall. After an initial drop, it has rallied: The currency is down 5% in the past 30 days, but up 16% in the past week. And it’s still up more than 600% over the past 12 months.

The coin has been so resilient as a speculative investment that Goldman Sachs is now considering launching a bitcoin trading operation. On the other hand, JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon insists that bitcoin is a “fraud… worse than tulip bulbs.”



Source: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/japan-poised-become-next-bitcoin-market-leader-174825798.html
1776  Bitcoin / Press / [2017-10-02] ICO ban in South Korea has virtually no effect on Bitcoin on: October 02, 2017, 11:08:31 PM
South Korea on Friday announced a ban on initial coin offerings (ICOs). This follows China’s ICO ban earlier this month, which preceded a short dip in value for major cryptocurrency offerings like Bitcoin (BC) and Ethereum (ETH). This time, the market barely took notice.

BC traded at $4,353 Friday, while ETH was valued at $291. At the time of this writing, both are up with BC valued $4,397, and ETH reaching $298.

According to local reports, South Korea decided to ban ICOs due to fears that cryptocurrency represents a non-productive method of financial speculation. This is a common theme among governments as they approach market regulation. Cryptocurrency is easily conflated with fiat money, but it’s anonymous, which makes it very difficult to tax.

Further revelations from South Korean officials concerning the ban indicate the country is concerned for the financial and data security of citizens who might be victimized by predatory crytpocurrency offerings. The government’s position, it appears, is ICOs are more likely to be a scam than the incumbent system.

If this sounds familiar, that’s because this is the same rhetoric people like JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon use when they declare Bitcoin to be a fraud or the market to be a bubble on the precipice of bursting. Though, your mileage may vary, when it comes to taking Dimon seriously, after all BC is his competition in more than one way.

In other cryptocurrency news out of South Korea, police report that North Korean hackers engaged in an unsuccessful “spear-phishing” campaign against several exchanges. Spear-phishing is a twist on the old fashioned “I need your password for security purposes” grift.

At least 25 employees, from four different companies, reported spear-phishing attempts and local law enforcement have confirmed at least 10 separate attacks from North Korean origin.

Between hackers failing to beat cryptocurrency security and an ICO ban being a non-event for coin value, it’s time to stop getting spooked every time a country that does business with China reports it’s going to ban ICOs or exchanges.

Cryptocurrency is supposed to be government-proof, and while that’s entirely theoretical, current evidence still seems to support that promise.



Source: https://thenextweb.com/finance/2017/10/02/cryptocurrency-ban-in-south-korea-has-virtually-no-effect-on-bitcoin/
1777  Bitcoin / Press / [2017-10-02] Bitcoin Exchange BTCC Brings Chinese Trading to a Close on: October 02, 2017, 11:03:10 PM
BTCC, an international cryptocurrency exchange with headquarters in China, has announced it has ceased all domestic trading activities.

On its website, BTCC now states that all local trading in yuan and cryptocurrencies has been officially suspended as of midday, September 30, Beijing time. The exchange stopped accepting deposits on September 27, with China-based users being advised to withdraw their funds from the exchange before the end of October.

In a tweet accompanying the closure, BTCC claims to have had the longest known lifespan for a cryptocurrency exchange, having operated for a "world record" of 2,305 days.

The closure of the exchange's China-facing trading operations comes following a statement from financial regulators on September 4, which banned developers and entrepreneurs from launching token sales (or ICOs) within the country. Exchanges in the country have since "voluntarily" decided to cease trading activities, though regulatory pressure is widely believed to have been the catalyst.

BTCC will continue to operate trading services outside China, and has also confirmed that its mining pool will continue to operate normally. Other major cryptocurrency exchanges in the country – including Yunbi, Huobi and OKCoin – are expected to cease trading by the end of October.


Source: https://www.coindesk.com/china-based-bitcoin-exchange-btcc-brings-domestic-trading-to-a-close/
1778  Bitcoin / Press / [2017-10-02] WSJ: Goldman Sachs Planning Direct Bitcoin Trading on: October 02, 2017, 10:58:40 PM


It seems that money does in fact talk: even digital money. The Wall Street Journal broke the news that blue chip banking giant Goldman Sachs is mulling allowing its investors to trade in Bitcoin directly.

The news would make Goldman the first leading Wall Street firm to allow its investors access to the rapidly growing cryptocurrency marketplace. Other firms have some products, like Grayscale’s platform (GBTC), but Goldman would open a whole new marketplace for investors. According to a spokesman for the company:

    “In response to client interest in digital currencies we are exploring how best to serve them in this space.”

Increased regulation?

While the news may bring about a rapid legitimization of the cryptocurrency space, it will certainly open up Bitcoin and other crypto assets to increased scrutiny from government regulatory bodies.

Already the Federal Reserve has indicated that it is studying cryptocurrencies more in depth, and the SEC has filed regulatory rules regarding ICOs.

Needing volatility

Goldman has faced substantial reduction in revenues (21 percent since last year) even in this year’s bull market for stocks, and it seems that the problem is related to volatility. The company has been unable to take advantage of panicked buys and sells within the stock market, and may be seeking a new source of volatility to allow its investors an opportunity to profit. According to the WSJ:

    "Goldman, once known as the nimblest trader on Wall Street, has struggled more than peers. Revenue in its fixed-income division fell 21% from last year through June, dragged down by poor performance in commodities and currencies.”

Whether the increasing mainstream investor adoption is good for Bitcoin or not remains to be seen. Nevertheless, such attention does call into question the previous judgments of other bank leaders like Jamie Dimon.



Source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/wsj-goldman-sachs-planning-direct-bitcoin-trading
Source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/goldman-sachs-explores-a-new-world-trading-bitcoin-1506959128
1779  Bitcoin / Press / [2017-10-02]Slow Ascent? Bitcoin Prices Climb Toward $4,500 on Weak Volumes on: October 02, 2017, 10:54:14 PM
Having defended its 50-day moving average last week, the bitcoin-U.S. dollar (BTC/USD) exchange rate is looking up.

Now eying the next psychological resistance level at $4,500, BTC/USD remains well bid even despite the ripple effects of the recent regulatory news from China that caused the fall below $3,000.

At press time, it appears the country's bitcoin exchanges are following through with earlier promises to shut down domestic trading operations, though the lack of major price movement indicates the bearish news has now been priced in.

Prices remained on the front foot over the weekend, as investors shrugged off South Korea's decision to follow China in banning ICOs. Moreover, ether has regained poise, which has helped stabilize sentiment in the cryptocurrency space.

At press time, the BTC/USD pair is trading at $4,420 – up 2.8 percent on the day. The cryptocurrency is up 11.3 percent week-on-week, but still down 4.9 percent on a monthly basis.

The price action analysis suggests that the odds of the cryptocurrency revisiting record highs have improved following the bullish price action over the weekend.

However, patience will be tested as trend indicators signal a lack of vigor in the market. Another slight cause of concern is that volumes remain weak as well.
 

The rebound from the 100-day moving average followed by a convincing break above the 50-day moving average (as seen in July) coupled with a bullish relative strength index (RSI) and the directional movement index (DMI) indicate scope for a rally to $4,692 (September 6 high) and possibly $5,000 (record high).

DMI is used to confirm price action, and a bullish crossover occurs when the green line crosses up through the red line.

Only a convincing break below $4,180 (confluence of the 50-day moving average and the rising trend line) would abort short-term bullish bias on bitcoin.
 
Despite the bullish break above the 50-day moving average, volumes have remained low.

The average directional index (ADX) line is sloping downwards, suggesting the bullish move lacks strength.

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Although the medium-term outlook is constructive, a minor pullback to $4,200 cannot be ruled out, courtesy of weak volumes and lack of strength as indicated by the ADX line.


Source: https://www.coindesk.com/slow-ascent-bitcoin-prices-edge-higher-despite-weak-volumes/
1780  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you keep your bitcoins? on: October 02, 2017, 10:36:57 PM
right now I feel safe when the bitcoin I have is already in the offline wallet because when I save in the exchanger I fear if a case like BTC-e happens again. we never know

Our bitcoins are safe and sound in an offline wallet. And that's what I'm doing since then, before I'm storing my bitcoin to an online wallet and exchangers. But many people here suggested when I was new that it's not safe to store my bitcoins there and what happened was they are right. The local wallet that I'm using started to act crazy and many of their customers now are complaining.

Yes.My suggestions for all the bitcoin holders is just keep your bitcoin in offline wallet.Why I am saying is ,many hackers are stealing the bitcoin in the online wallet by the IP address. So better to keep your bitcoin in offline wallet to make it safe for very long period.

I think there is no problem to store bitcoin in online wallet, as long as it is not for a long time. Store bitcoin in online wallet only to wait for percentage of coins if you want to trade

There's no problem in it if the amount you'll put there isn't too high. Be cautious on what's possible to happen with those online wallets and exchange that the eyes of the hackers and lazy faggots are in them. They are trying everything just to penetrate into their hot wallet and later on will send funds to their own wallet address and those funds, possibly that one of the bitcoin there is yours.

The truth is the best way to save your bitcoins away from hackers, FBI or any pig out there is by using hardware/offline wallet e.g Ledger Nano S.
I often used online wallets like Xapo and Blockchain.info - but I don't normally save huge amount of bitcoins because there is too much risk involved in doing so.
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