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1781  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANN: BITMAIN has Tested Its 28nm Bitcoin Mining Chip BM1382 on: June 29, 2014, 10:09:57 PM

The buy and sell on ebay is valid and ethical.


Well, I don't want to go too far off-topic and start arguing with you about all the opportunistic thugs operating some of the larger on-line markets and payment services, but if you are selling equipment to people for more money than you know it can mine then you are taking advantage of them. I'm sure there are exceptions amongst people who have free electricity. With respect to use of S1 and S3 machines as heaters, its an interesting idea but the case for their deployment really depends on an explosion of BTC/fiat exchange rates that may or may not occur. That is a subject which is probably topic-worthy but in a different thread.

I disagree. Ebay is a reasonable way to judge a paypal-priced value for things, and for people who have no BTC and have no way to easily get BTC paying a 10%+ premium via ebay/paypal is not terrible.

and even if the equipment stops being profitable in 5 months with a $600/BTC, if prices jump to $1000 you can suddenly get another 2 months use and quite likely make a profit. You need to look at the value of the mining equipment both in terms of current market conditions as well as how the market may be in 6 months from now, or a year form now.

If BTC went up to $2000 during July, even the 7w/GH BFL equipment would start coming back online again and making small profits
1782  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: PCI-E cables with 16AWG wires and tinned ends - great for server PSU mods on: June 28, 2014, 02:17:45 PM
OP is updated with the new cables photos and pricing.

The splitters look great and I personally will be using a pair of 24" leads with a splitter on each so that I can run 2 antminers per DPS800 PSU (using gigampz board). The non-tinned ends also make these a bit easier to work with since the tinned stuff was stiff and unable to twist together very easily.
1783  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Could Bitmain be driving the latest spike in hashing growth with Antminer S3s? on: June 27, 2014, 10:04:54 PM
I don't see how upgrading an S1 would be cost effective. I guess it depends on the chip cost and work required to replace the existing chips vs selling the S1.

you would not replace the chips - you would replace the two PCBs and keep the fan/frame/heatsink.

Its not viable until the S1 is worthless (another 2 months if you undervolt or have cheap power), but would save about $20 in raw materials ($7 fan, $13 aluminum), maybe $5 worth of assembly time, and about $40-60 on shipping. Overall it would be a savings for bitmain of about $60-80 and probably passed on to buyers as a $40-60 discount over an assembled S3.
1784  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ROCKMINER ASIC miner official thread on: June 26, 2014, 11:08:21 AM
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Rocket Box 450G-490G 480W[shipping around 27th,June]

Are these no longer shipping on the 25th as promised? I have had no recent email communication and no tracking info on an order i placed almost 2 weeks ago that should presumably be with a courier by now.
1785  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - Best W/GH/s ratio, Best $/GH/s ratio on: June 26, 2014, 11:05:19 AM
right then. it has been previously said:

If you do not like the manufacturer or their product, please do not post on their thread.
you make the community look untidy with your incoherences and idiosyncrasies.

hop off your high horse - manufacturer threads are 100% fair game for [reasonable] criticisms and complints.

The SP-10 is a great (but noisy) machine. The SP-30 looks very promising and should be useful for at least 8-12 months minimum due to its class-leading efficiency. However, $5,000 is a little steep - particularly for a preorder - and I would not invest in one until it is shipping in under 2 weeks from payment.

Bitcoin is volatile right now. Within the next week both bitmain and asicminer producers (rockminer and btcgarden) will be in feirce competition and will be fighting to get thier respective 0.8w/gh and 1.1w/gh products down into the $1/GH range. Between then and the SP30 september batch it is likely that difficulty will almost double.

*as a side note - raskul is free to resell SP30 preorders at retail prices, but it should be obvious he is probably getting a 15% or better cut for bulk ordering like that. If you want to pay $5K for an SP30 buy it direct from spondoolies*
1786  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Could Bitmain be driving the latest spike in hashing growth with Antminer S3s? on: June 26, 2014, 01:27:24 AM
I am assuming that some of the increase is definitely Bitmain.

Asicminer and Bitmain both have chips and both have products that are on the cusp of shipping out. Its quite likely that they are doing all sorts of pre-mining and burn-in testing

1787  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: RK-BOX,450GH/S,480W ,shipping date 25th on: June 25, 2014, 03:07:53 PM
Its now the 25th - will I get my shipping notification soon?
1788  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Habanero - 650GH/s - Batch 2 Shipping June 9th, $850 ($1.3/GH/s) on: June 25, 2014, 11:46:42 AM
did you try the 25MHz clock rate?

 Now I'm getting somewhere.. It appears to be the gigampz and HP psu setup. Possible my cables as I made them myself.

I tested with a corsair 760i PSU and got it working.

Anyone using the gigampz and HP PSU combo? How many psu did you use per hab board I'm on 240v power.?


could be an issue with the higher voltage (12.4-12.8v) that often is produced by server supplies. Check the below image and try adding a wire to the gigampz board for  voltage sense - that should cause the PSU to correct the output back into the proper 11.9-12.2V range that perhaps the habernaro requires

1789  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ROCKMINER ASIC miner official thread on: June 25, 2014, 11:26:57 AM
Rockxie, still on track to ship out tomorrow?!   Grin

still no news?
1790  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANN: BITMAIN has Tested Its 28nm Bitcoin Mining Chip BM1382 on: June 24, 2014, 12:04:32 PM
I went to BITMAIN booth today in the Inside Bitcoin Hong Kong conference. One of the bitmain's eployee (very nice, big shoutout to him) said there will be upgrade kits for s1 and s2 but will be months later. Basically, just changing pcb.

In most cases, the S1 will still operate at a profit for several weeks, and undervolting will add another month or two to that. No point upgrading it until the S1 boards are worthless, right?
1791  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: How many S3 are you planning to buy? on: June 24, 2014, 01:05:35 AM
IMo, 0.9-1.1 BTC is the fair price, considering that the miner will probably produce ~1.9BTC over its lifetime, minus ~$400 in power costs at $0.15/kwh.

1792  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - Best W/GH/s ratio, Best $/GH/s ratio on: June 23, 2014, 11:58:37 AM
There's going to be a jump of almost 30 Petahash in 6 days.

Does anyone know the reasons why there is so large difficulty jump (around 25%) this time?

Some new mines being started somewhere? The hardware being replaced in established mines?

If so, do you know which mines and what is their Petahash input?



a large part is variance. a few days of good luck after a few days of bad luck could cause huge jumps like this. If you flip a coin and get heads, tails, heads, heads, heads, tails, tails, tails, it does not mean that the physical properties of the coin changed during the last 6 tosses
1793  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: June 20, 2014, 01:26:47 PM
Its amazing to me that there was a full page of wrong conclusions and accusations being drawn (Ken stealing coins). It took me 2 minutes to come to the realization that these are most likely hardware purchases.



Are you serious? After being told by the MSD that he will need to reimburse investors, pay a near 100k fine, and refund millions in pre-orders (presumably told by MSD to do that) he is going to take this moment to spend the last coins and buy more hardware? The guy has had 12 months to buy hardware. Buying hardware now gets him no-where except into debt and unable to pay the fines. Ken couldn't update a website to sell 300 cards sitting on shelves so what makes you think he would buy hardware now and be capable of turning it round for a profit? He couldn't do that with in-stock cards! He said this money would be used to pay reimbursement and fines what was left to pay for operations (aka paying his lawyers with our money to defend himself from our lawsuits). Most likely not hardware.  

this. you seem correct about those addresses, but ken's history shows he rarely acts in the company interest. As is there are 163x 500GH prospector boards still available for sale at $2000. Thats 80TH of mining power that should be in the eligius farm or sold at a lower price to cover refunds.

My understanding was that the MSD made it pretty clear that ken had to put a halt to his questionable activity and send refunds. This is not that.

also

its obivious ken spent your BTC to buy avalons so he could mine for him self

I purchased the Avalons with my own bitcoins.

can't believe i missed this little nugget before - what sort of startup CEO invests money in private machines and not in thier own company?

oh yeah, a CEO who has a history of deceptive tactics and builds his company entirely from investor money and not his own.
1794  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official ShareholThis is a bder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: June 20, 2014, 01:21:47 PM
This is sorta irrelevant now, but anyone notice a pattern here? (hint: vertical gray lines=5pm in Nevada, where Ken's mine is if I remember correctly)



displacing 10-20TH of equipment from the public mining address for a few hours a day means significant losses to ACTM holders (and significant gains for any address that the miners might be pointed at during said outages).

either Ken is stealing hashrate/income right in front of us, or is incapable of getting his farm to run stable.  My own eligius page is a perfectly flat 7TH line for a week now, none of this nonsense that kens running.


also:

its obivious ken spent your BTC to buy avalons so he could mine for him self

I purchased the Avalons with my own bitcoins.

can't believe i missed this little nugget before - what sort of startup CEO invests money in private machines and not in thier own company?

oh yeah, a CEO who has a history of deceptive tactics and builds his company entirely from investor money and not his own.
1795  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [VMC] The Official Virtual Mining Corporation Hardware Discussion on: June 20, 2014, 01:15:16 PM
its obivious ken spent your BTC to buy avalons so he could mine for him self

I purchased the Avalons with my own bitcoins.

can't believe i missed this little nugget before - what sort of startup CEO invests money in private machines and not in thier own company?

oh yeah, a CEO who has a history of deceptive tactics and builds his company entirely from investor money and not his own.
1796  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Announcement: Bitmain launches AntMiner solution, 0.68 J/GH on chip on: June 20, 2014, 01:11:16 PM
I have an s2 $400 one that expires tomorrow i think, 4-06-21 23:56:00

I will take .25 btc for it

I will offer 0.05 BTC for a $400 coupon to you or anyone else with one.

(I have no idea why i got no coupons from bitmain this time around - the last time coupons were given i received 21x S1 and 21x S2 coupons that all expired at the beginning of june.)
1797  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANN: BITMAIN has Tested Its 28nm Bitcoin Mining Chip BM1382 on: June 20, 2014, 12:03:58 AM
Could be. But with with shipping at ~$6/kg they can't cost more than ~$20 to produce and ship.

DHL/UPS only charges 6$/kg in China? Stop reminding me I live in the wrong part of the world Sad

shipping the S1 to canada cost bitmain about $120 if i recall. So by shipping only boards they might save ~$80 at most, and it would require virtually discarding your S1 (which is still profitable for several months)
1798  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: June 19, 2014, 12:16:50 PM
All of the Bitcoins in the Mining Address ( https://blockchain.info/address/1DJpsvnM7xTnQbWEhLYyCyfxQyxwupEzCa ) have been sent to  https://blockchain.info/address/16yTynjmSe5bsRGykDaaCL5bm2pxiEfcqP

Possible refunds being given?


I think it would:  Here is the address we are holding bitcoins at to purchase the chips:  16yTynjmSe5bsRGykDaaCL5bm2pxiEfcqP

so it moved to an actm account, but no explanation for where payments of 58 and 6.8 BTC went from there and why.

I would have thought that the MSD issues prevent ken from moving money around between shell accounts. From the sidelines this looks like scamming at its finest, and the fact that ken has a history of shady companies and con tactics just cements that opinion
1799  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Announcement: Bitmain launches AntMiner solution, 0.68 J/GH on chip on: June 19, 2014, 02:15:08 AM
S2 sold out?!?!?   

I forgot that could happen.....  ):

phased out for the S3 (and perhaps a re-designed ~3TH/2kW S4?)
1800  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANN: BITMAIN has Tested Its 28nm Bitcoin Mining Chip BM1382 on: June 18, 2014, 11:45:17 PM
At a diff increase of 18%, $.15kwh, 500gh, 400watt the S3 mines less than 1 BTC before it operates in the RED, if it starts mining today. And that is after 179 days of exposure to the risk that the network hash rate won't go ballistic.

There is absolutely no way anyone in their right mind should consider paying 1 BTC for an S3

the difficulty increases are no longer 18%/jump. Its closer to 14%/jump if you average the last 5 or so, and its visibly decreasing. (the network is no longer doubling every month - not sure if anyone noticed it now takes 7-10 weeks per doubling)

I would pay 1BTC for an S3 - possibly up to 1.1BTC if it DELIVERS before the end of June.

IMO, they need a larger S4 device similar to the S2 but better optimized for hashrate and without the shipping issues. If they could pack 4TH/3.5kW into a 4U case for ~8BTC i would be very interested. These little <1TH machines will very soon be worth less than $100 each and will require large awkward stacks of them ziptied together if anyone wants to operate a farm with over $10,000 of equipment

The SP30 will be 6TH / 2.8kW / 2U very soon - bitmain needs a similar pro-level mining device. The S2 wasn't terrible, but the chips were a little too undervolted and the unit wasn't built well for shipping with fumbly couriers that kick or drop their cargo.
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