once again you are wrong. i sought to make a trade to prove myself trustworthy, not to buy trust. you are just twisting my words to fit your agenda.
Dude, seriously, how are you not getting this? I'm not twisting your words because you stated exactly why you wanted the feedback for several times. How the hell does making a $5 trade make you trustworthy? It doesn't. It means you traded $5. You specifically wanted to trade with trusted hero members and nobody else, thus you wanted 'green' reputable feedback for your five dollars aka you were trying to buy feedback and trust quickly and at minimal cost. i wanted trusted hero members because they are the most reputable, and it limits my risk of being scammed. actually, i wanted the btc legitimately too, but for fucks sakes, whatever you say. i'm done arguing. you fucking win, ok? |
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I only use two altcoin exchanges, Cryptsy and Poloniex.
Too bad poloniex is so ugly. |
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you are wrong. You are assuming i'm up to no good without giving me a chance to state my case. it is easy to setup on your pedestal and declare everything a scam. Also, you do not know my mindset. you don't know why i want to have a positive trust, and you do not know what my intention is. You are just assuming based on a prior precedence, which is not fair to me. But i concede the point. please show me how i can correct this and establish my reputation in what you deem as being "the right way", since ive broken some infallible sacred law of bitcointalk by attempting to establish a reputation of a trustworthy bitcointalk user. my only intention here is to sell my coding services, but no one will trust someone with zero feedback.
I'm not wrong and I'm not assuming you're up to no good. You're probably not, but you are being really naive. I know your mindset because you have stated it several times - you wanted trust to appear trustworthy and that in itself makes any trust you may have recieved worthless. You wanted to buy trust thus making it untrustworthy and essentially fraudulent by your own admission. If you want to gain trust go about it the same way everyone else does: they build it over time via genuine trades, they don't just try quickly buy it for $5. Just noticed that some retard left me a negative feedback because i posted the publicly available information about a registered domain's owner.
How the hell some random can leave me such feedback over a post, not even a trade....
Well I cannot even see it. you're using multiple accounts to post information ? It's there if you go his profile. once again you are wrong. i sought to make a trade to prove myself trustworthy, not to buy trust. you are just twisting my words to fit your agenda. |
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Nope, not "my move", just my wasted attempt to give you a different perspective. If this would be chess, you just lost your Queen with these two threads, dont lose your head
byte me  Byte me? How old are you? You're really not doing yourself any favours here and are just justifying why not only the feedback is warranted bit why you shouldn't be trusted. People were trying to give you advice here and tell you where you fucked up but now you're just digging yourself deeper into a hole. Your sharp words are empty and devoid of logic, or should i say sound logic. its logical but false, so i really have nothing else to say to you. You are simply projecting your own mindset upon me.
Lol. You just contradicted yourself there, but I get it, you're too stubborn to admit where you fucked up and went on the militant defensive and your attitude is now betraying your age. You really should try look at this from outside the box because you will see that what we're saying is right. No, you faggots are just attacking me at every corner. i'm obviously in a no win situation so fuck you all. i maintain that i did nothing wrong, you are just being faggots and projecting your agenda on to me in order to stroke your own faggot ego. |
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h4xx0rWarning: Trade with extreme caution!h4xx0r is trading $5 to gain positive trust you deserved that warning message, scammer alert  not true. i seek to establish a reputation as being trustworthy. it turns out, you can be to honest here. fucking faggots and their cracked logic. |
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ok internet toughguy, i concede. im a big fat scammer and i'm here to scam everyone out of their precious bitcoins. that's clearly the only reason someone would ever aspire to accrue a positive trust rating. right? So you're asking someone to answer you "yes", right? Ok, let me be the first: Yes it is. i mean no normal and honest person would ever dream of having positive feedback on their trust profile, am i right?
Not by asking "how can I get positive trust". A normal and honest person just behaves in a normal and honest way, without caring about trust. Trust will come to him eventually (or not!) but he doesn't care, why should he? He's already honest and doesn't need to prove anything to anyone. Lol right, no one cares about trust, an essential concept in human relationships. Honest people just float through life all happy go lucky, and their reputation is never put to the test. |
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Some may argue you were trying to abuse the system by attempting to essentially buy trust. You'll have to work it out with him, but I don't think he did anything wrong here, especially when you were quite open in what you were attempting to do.
i simply stated that i wanted to establish myself as trustworthy, and request to receive positive trust after completion of a trade. how does that warrant a negative trust. this is bullcrap Can you not see how trying to buy trust to make yourself appear 'trustworthy' makes you the exact opposite? i'm not trying to make myself appear as anything you fucking retard, i'm trying to prove my trustworthiness by completing a trade! And yet you don't realise the irony in this, so I'm not the 'retard' here. You want to appear trustworthy by buying feedback for $5 a pop via Paypal. How does that make you trustworthy? It makes you the exact opposite because you wanted that green feedback for one thing. You appear trustworthy by building up trust doing trustworthy things, not purposely seeking out reputable hero members to buy yourself feedback for $5. i was trying to do a deal until the gamerguy left me a negative trust on my profile. i want the positive trust so i can establish relationships. when i come offering my coding services i want people to see the green trust and know that i am a man of my word.
 Yet again you prove to everyone why this negative you have received is completely valid. You establish the relationships first, that's how you get positive feedback that actually means something. How does this feedback mean anything when you wanted to buy it for $5? You think merely having green trust makes you trustworthy, when you yourself have just proved why it isn't. Your sharp words are empty and devoid of logic, or should i say sound logic. its logical but false, so i really have nothing else to say to you. You are simply projecting your own mindset upon me. |
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Nope, not "my move", just my wasted attempt to give you a different perspective. If this would be chess, you just lost your Queen with these two threads, dont lose your head
byte me |
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cooldgamer has left a negative trust on my profile, quite fraudulently. I asked a question about getting some a positive trust on my profile. i attempted to setup a trade in which a stipulation was that the user should be a hero member, i would send first, and we should exchange feedback. What is the crime in that?
It would appear that, because some scammers have used this technique(trust system manipulation), i am not allowed to gain trust in this community, even by offering myself as the sacrificial lamb by sending first. That is not fair. These guys with the positive trust have a monopoly on the trust system so that only them and their friends can be in the positive trust. I want to establish myself in the positive trust, but apparently i am not allowed to do so without being accused of being a scammer, when i have not done anything wrong.
I don't see the crime in stating that i would like to establish positive trust. Logically, a scammer would not be so in the open about it. He would sneak around, making small trades until he was in the positive trust, and then he would use it to pull off a big scam. By being so open about it, the topic will always exist where i sought for the positive trust, so wouldn't that throw a wrench in any attempt to scam by me anyway?
I want to sell coding services at some point on this forum, this is why i seek the positive trust, so that maybe clients will be more inclined to give my proposal more consideration.
But my point, if i have one, is that cooldgamer has left me a negative trust without due diligence. I want an explanation, and i also want to reach some type of an agreement where it can be removed from my profile. I have no intention to scam. Zero. Zilch. Nada. None whatsoever. I simply want the positive trust for my coding services. Reputation is everything on the web, and i want to establish a good one. why the hard time?
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Some may argue you were trying to abuse the system by attempting to essentially buy trust. You'll have to work it out with him, but I don't think he did anything wrong here, especially when you were quite open in what you were attempting to do.
i simply stated that i wanted to establish myself as trustworthy, and request to receive positive trust after completion of a trade. how does that warrant a negative trust. this is bullcrap Can you not see how trying to buy trust to make yourself appear 'trustworthy' makes you the exact opposite? i'm not trying to make myself appear as anything you fucking retard, i'm trying to prove my trustworthiness by completing a trade! If you act like a teen you will not be treated like an adult. Hilariousandco is trying to give you a different perspective here and you react with insults. You ask people to missuse the trustsystem because you feel it has been missused. You also try to get green trust so hard one has to wonder if your intentions are honest. There is no shortcut to trust here, deal with it. Adults don't sneak around leaving negative trusts on peoples profile, an adult will confront the person directly. your move. |
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i doubt u will ever get one after this topic just got a -6 from some loser. i have broken no rule and scammed nobody. clear abuse of trust system. Says the guy trying to buy trust. He obviously felt what you were trying to do made you untrustworthy. You should just accumulate trust naturally, not set out to essentially buy it for whatever reason. ok internet toughguy, i concede. im a big fat scammer and i'm here to scam everyone out of their precious bitcoins. that's clearly the only reason someone would ever aspire to accrue a positive trust rating. right? i mean no normal and honest person would ever dream of having positive feedback on their trust profile, am i right? and you tried to call me a hypocrite... pfft |
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Check this : Money sent through PayPal and any other money transfer service that accepts credit cards can be easily reversed by the sender, even after several weeks. Therefore, you should only accept PayPal in trades with people you trust very highly.
This is why newbies are not likely to sell their PayPal USD for bitcoins successfully.
Some other services that are not totally safe:
- Bank transfers (ACH, etc.) except wire transfers
- Most gift cards.
- Moneypak
- AlertPay
- Paysafecards
- Dwolla
- Western Union (they reportedly will sue the recipient to recover money in some cases)
So I don't trust you . Have a nice day . Fair enough, though you clearly overlooked my post and inserted your agenda, its whatever to me. I plainly stated i would allow you to wait until the chargeback window is closed before sending the coins. The chargeback can be done even after so many months , for example 3-4 months . Do you want to wait 3-4 month to receive your btc ? I think the answer is : no. source : http://community.ebay.com/t5/Archive-Selling-Manager-Pro/Chargeback-after-3-months/td-p/2216597well i guess you've proven your point. i concede. |
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It wasn't just that though, was it? I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating
You were quite blatant in what you were attempting to do. As others have said previously, attempting to quickly gain or buy positive trust is something scammers do and the feedback you received is now there as a warning to others who may take any positive feedback you recieve as a mark of being trustworthy when you are clearly not. i have done nothing wrong, nor am i untrustworthy. i simply stated that i wanted to establish myself as trustworthy, so that automatically makes me a scammer, because i seek to have a positive trust on my profile? that doesn't' make any sense. you're just being another faggot ass internet bully, so fuck you. What you did wrong was attempt to abuse the trust system and cheaply buy yourself some positive trust. How does that establish you as trustworthy? It doesn't. It makes you the exact opposite or at least arouses suspicion. You earn trust by being trustworthy, not trying to buy it. The feedback is completely valid because of this mindset. The fact that you think I'm bullying you for merely stating the truth and then call me a 'faggot ass' is laughable and yet again hypocritical. you are wrong. You are assuming i'm up to no good without giving me a chance to state my case. it is easy to setup on your pedestal and declare everything a scam. Also, you do not know my mindset. you don't know why i want to have a positive trust, and you do not know what my intention is. You are just assuming based on a prior precedence, which is not fair to me. But i concede the point. please show me how i can correct this and establish my reputation in what you deem as being "the right way", since ive broken some infallible sacred law of bitcointalk by attempting to establish a reputation of a trustworthy bitcointalk user. my only intention here is to sell my coding services, but no one will trust someone with zero feedback. |
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Some may argue you were trying to abuse the system by attempting to essentially buy trust. You'll have to work it out with him, but I don't think he did anything wrong here, especially when you were quite open in what you were attempting to do.
i simply stated that i wanted to establish myself as trustworthy, and request to receive positive trust after completion of a trade. how does that warrant a negative trust. this is bullcrap Can you not see how trying to buy trust to make yourself appear 'trustworthy' makes you the exact opposite? i'm not trying to make myself appear as anything you fucking retard, i'm trying to prove my trustworthiness by completing a trade! I think the best way to try a reputable trust is: the activity , you should stay more time here in the forum an help the other users , the second thing is do a lot of deal with a lot of users . i was trying to do a deal until the gamerguy left me a negative trust on my profile. i want the positive trust so i can establish relationships. when i come offering my coding services i want people to see the green trust and know that i am a man of my word. |
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i doubt u will ever get one after this topic just got a -6 from some loser. i have broken no rule and scammed nobody. clear abuse of trust system. No it isn't. You are trying to buy Trust and that is not a trustworthy action. Scammers do this. it is too an abuse of the trust system, because i have done nothing wrong. you can't prove that i have scammed anybody, nor can you prove that my intention is to scam. I offer to send trust and allow until the chargeback window is closed on paypal before buyer has to send the coins. i want a positive trust on my profile, what is the crime in that? because a scammer does these trades to accrue positive trust, that must be my intention as well then huh? that's bullshit, i have no history of scamming or shady activity. just give me a damn chance! fuck |
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Check this : Money sent through PayPal and any other money transfer service that accepts credit cards can be easily reversed by the sender, even after several weeks. Therefore, you should only accept PayPal in trades with people you trust very highly.
This is why newbies are not likely to sell their PayPal USD for bitcoins successfully.
Some other services that are not totally safe:
- Bank transfers (ACH, etc.) except wire transfers
- Most gift cards.
- Moneypak
- AlertPay
- Paysafecards
- Dwolla
- Western Union (they reportedly will sue the recipient to recover money in some cases)
So I don't trust you . Have a nice day . Fair enough, though you clearly overlooked my post and inserted your agenda, its whatever to me. I plainly stated i would allow you to wait until the chargeback window is closed before sending the coins. |
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Some may argue you were trying to abuse the system by attempting to essentially buy trust. You'll have to work it out with him, but I don't think he did anything wrong here, especially when you were quite open in what you were attempting to do.
i simply stated that i wanted to establish myself as trustworthy, and request to receive positive trust after completion of a trade. how does that warrant a negative trust. this is bullcrap Can you not see how trying to buy trust to make yourself appear 'trustworthy' makes you the exact opposite? i'm not trying to make myself appear as anything you fucking retard, i'm trying to prove my trustworthiness by completing a trade! |
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It wasn't just that though, was it? I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating
You were quite blatant in what you were attempting to do. As others have said previously, attempting to quickly gain or buy positive trust is something scammers do and the feedback you received is now there as a warning to others who may take any positive feedback you recieve as a mark of being trustworthy when you are clearly not. i have done nothing wrong, nor am i untrustworthy. i simply stated that i wanted to establish myself as trustworthy, so that automatically makes me a scammer, because i seek to have a positive trust on my profile? that doesn't' make any sense. you're just being another faggot ass internet bully, so fuck you. |
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Some may argue you were trying to abuse the system by attempting to essentially buy trust. You'll have to work it out with him, but I don't think he did anything wrong here, especially when you were quite open in what you were attempting to do.
i simply stated that i wanted to establish myself as trustworthy, and request to receive positive trust after completion of a trade. how does that warrant a negative trust. this is bullcrap |
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=79720he left me a negative trust for no reason. it is not a crime to stipulate that a user must leave a positive feedback after a successful trade. i request you leave him a negative feedback for abusing the trust system. I have posted here on and off since july of last year, and it is not fair that he would just leave me a negative feedback. I have done nothing wrong, why should my account wear the badge of dishonor because of this?
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