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181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: August 09, 2021, 01:41:42 AM
Is anyone working on wrapped Devcoin/bridging Devcoin onto other blockchains? For instance, an ERC-20 wrapped Devcoin token backed 1:1 with main chain Devcoin? This token could allow Devcoin holders to access a whole suite of new applications — decentralized exchanges, borrowing, etc.

Back to wrapped as far as I know - nothing is officially from our devs here. But I did find the EVM compatible BSC BEP20 token "DevCoin (DVC)"https://testnet.bscscan.com/token/0x12dee872521b652f1b3f8bc447b44fa2cd82027a?a=0xa4e485273c2f6fd5e6dc50efc770cb77619699c6

Testnet interesting enough.

Thanks for the update! Are DVC bounties still offered for projects? Could we perhaps offer a bounty to put DVC on Ethereum?

That honestly seems like the most obvious and overlooked solution for DVC at the moment. ERC-20 DVC. Wrapped Devcoin. Smiley lol

Also forget bounties I mean maybe there is one. I'd pay you DVC myself lol. I could actually use all this Devcoin for once haha.

EDIT 8/10/21: Everyone interested in Ethereum we could do a governance model over there like we already do using free public goods (plug and play DAO from 1Hive... I believe they run on Rinkeby to keep costs minimal too):

https://gardens.1hive.org/

Have a look. You can import your own token for governance.
182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Devcoin, the third ever altcoin turns 10 years old, 7/22/2021. It remains active on: July 25, 2021, 12:09:22 AM
Huzzah Kudos!

WE'RE STILL HERE! DIFFICULTY MUST MEAN SOMETHING TO BLOCKCHAIN! Smiley
183  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: July 23, 2021, 03:05:59 PM
Is anyone working on wrapped Devcoin/bridging Devcoin onto other blockchains? For instance, an ERC-20 wrapped Devcoin token backed 1:1 with main chain Devcoin? This token could allow Devcoin holders to access a whole suite of new applications — decentralized exchanges, borrowing, etc.

Back to wrapped as far as I know - nothing is officially from our devs here. But I did find the EVM compatible BSC BEP20 token "DevCoin (DVC)"https://testnet.bscscan.com/token/0x12dee872521b652f1b3f8bc447b44fa2cd82027a?a=0xa4e485273c2f6fd5e6dc50efc770cb77619699c6

Testnet interesting enough.
184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IXCoin [IXC] The Original Bitcoin Sidechain on: July 22, 2021, 09:08:51 PM

Vlad got suspended by a global mod after deleting 120 of his posts for posting off topic on his own thread.  Haha

That thread is the definition of off topic.  Posting about tech would be off topic.  Lol

What clown global mods we have.  This is progress. 










I just noticed we have 2 mods here and some planetary mod comes in and rages and deletes 120 posts?  Haha. 

Isn’t there a code of conduct for mods?   




Newsflash:  Vlad consumed himself to a nervous breakdown for 8 years with no reward and now gets ambushed for ousting a crook.  I wish Gleb was back.  Nobody banned or deleted his posts.  RIP brother, I miss you.  Evil has taken over. 

In short vlad was saying on telegram he’s deleting this account even it means post by post.

That’s the reward bitcointalk deserves, losing legit, honest, devs with a solid rep who worked for free. 

Congrats!!!



[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]

This is getting worse than Reddit.
185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: July 22, 2021, 09:07:08 PM

HAPPY 10TH PUBLIC BIRTHDAY DEVCOIN - SINCE JULY 20/22, 2011. GENESIS AND BLOCK #1!


Happy birthday! =)

Wait, ixc is 10 years old then too?  I thought I’ve been slowly dying for only 8-9 years.  Bonus.  What I thought would take 1-2 years Is taking over a decade.  



According to i0coin's wiki page Ixcoin was "born" 4/27-29/2011.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5350569.msg57517493#msg57517493


I see this project is going nowhere

GREAT! How about OTC we trade 1 DVC for 0.1 Liteoshi? Smiley
186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Devcoin, the third ever altcoin turns 10 years old, 7/22/2021. It remains active on: July 22, 2021, 07:13:42 PM
What's the website?

devcoin.org
and our project
devtome.com (pre-alpha vs of Steemit some say)
187  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Devcoin, the third ever altcoin turns 10 years old, 7/22/2021. It remains active on: July 22, 2021, 09:57:16 AM
HAPPY 10TH PUBLIC BIRTHDAY DEVCOIN - SINCE JULY 20/22, 2011. GENESIS AND BLOCK #1!



Perhaps the turtle wins the race this year. There has to be value for secure chains. And efficient ones at that in this new "green" world.

Under the radar 10 years, but still actively developed in the past year and still has the founder around.

Go Devcoin, go.



Regardless of Spot prices on one exchange, we still get written about in 2021:

https://copper.co/insights/what-do-the-top-10-cryptos-of-the-last-10-years-tell-us

7 years ago, we were known to Yahoo Finance...

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/longest-running-bitcoin-alternative-devcoin-050500319.html



Time to kick it in gear... unless waiting is the winning strategy. No one has ever told me, but here I am.

The thing is, behind the scenes many brilliant developers are already rolling out Devcoin's proposals into the pubic little by little and one day it will be here. So do I love my cheap DVC? Do I love marketing and working for the dev team? You bet.

Governance and the value of long and well thought out distribution is coming.

How nice (sarcasm)of Vitalik to plug our innovation and move on to Ethereum even using their own proposed governance system which ripped off that which Devcoin created...

What do we care. Our chain is under the radar, the most of the most secure - and no doubt, our devs from the co-founder with us today to our South American whiz kid and others who work on other projects yet help us immensely like Traxo and Vlad from iXcoin.

We are so very close. The distribution is almost optimal. Time for the next step...

A little Vitalik at Devcon when he must've read some good MarkM or Unthinkingbit posts on Bitcointalk.org the night before...

Quote
SocialCoin and the One World “Government”


The existence of a decentralized “real name” system allows for a large number of possibilities that have so far been unexplored in the cryptocurrency world. One attractive possibility is SocialCoin, the cryptocurrency that pays everyone in the world a “world citizen’s dividend” of 1000 units per month; another, similar alternative is to plug the system into a Devcoin-like system, allowing people to come together and vote on projects that the money should be spent on, thereby creating what is essentially a (voluntary) “world government” that funds itself from the revenue from generating new currency units. How much money could such a government get while still maintaining a low inflation rate? Here, there are two factors to keep in mind: people dying and losing their coins forever, and actual inflation.

Currently, when someone dies, their property automatically goes to their children or spouse by default. In a cryptocurrency, however, by default a person’s monetary savings simply become inaccessible since their passwords are lost. This destruction of coins creates a deflationary pressure; given the current death rate of around 8 per 1000 per year, multiplying by a factor of 2 to account for the fact that people tend to be somewhat wealthier than average at the time of their death, and then again dividing by 3 to take into account the fact that many people will have a system set up to ensure their wealth will go somewhere when they die (currently, about half the population has wills, and the divider can be bumped to 3 since people with more money are more likely to have them), we can get an estimate of 0.5% coin loss per year.

This, combined with a low target inflation rate of 1.5%, means that we can “print” 2% of the current money supply every year. Since cryptocurrencies will massively reduce the amount of fractional reserve banking in the world (as the cryptocurrency base unit is online, so individuals no longer “need” to store their money in banks in order to maintain savings accounts and make long-distance transactions), we can expect much of the world’s M2 and M3 money supply (ways of calculating money supply that include bank deposits) to become part of the base money supply of a cryptocurrency. The M2 money supply of the world is estimated at around $40 trillion, giving our world government a budget of $800 billion per year to play with – or, in the case of SocialCoin, a universal dividend of $114 per person per year.

In theory, a world government can do a lot with $800 billion per year; in practice, it remains to be seen how free from corruption such an institution would be, although in this case the fact that it will be controlled by direct democracy, and have no power to tax, can potentially serve as powerful restraints on abuse. It would essentially be a government in the sense of being an entity tasked with maintaining social infrastructure, but would lack the power to coerce and compel that might make it particularly dangerous. Or, we can simply stick with SocialCoin, and leave it up to each individual to improve their lives the best that they can with $114 per year – almost nothing to most people reading this article, but a very substantial amount in many underdeveloped countries. If the system can be made to rely on no centralized institutions and no tax revenue, it can secure a level of political neutrality that would allow it to be trusted by the entire world. Will it happen? Well, either wait and see to find out, or start implementing it yourself.

See also:

http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7050/bootstrapping-a-decentralized-autonomous-corporation-part-i/

http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7119/bootstrapping-an-autonomous-decentralized-corporation-part-2-interacting-with-the-world/

Source: https://blog.ethereum.org/2013/12/31/bootstrapping-a-decentralized-autonomous-corporation-part-3-identity-corp/
188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: July 22, 2021, 09:31:48 AM
HAPPY 10TH PUBLIC BIRTHDAY DEVCOIN - SINCE JULY 20/22, 2011. GENESIS AND BLOCK #1!



Perhaps the turtle wins the race this year. There has to be value for secure chains. And efficient ones at that in this new "green" world.

Under the radar 10 years, but still actively developed in the past year and still has the founder around.

Go Devcoin, go.



Regardless of Spot prices on one exchange, we still get written about in 2021:

https://copper.co/insights/what-do-the-top-10-cryptos-of-the-last-10-years-tell-us

7 years ago, we were known to Yahoo Finance...

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/longest-running-bitcoin-alternative-devcoin-050500319.html



Time to kick it in gear... unless waiting is the winning strategy. No one has ever told me, but here I am.

The thing is, behind the scenes many brilliant developers are already rolling out Devcoin's proposals into the pubic little by little and one day it will be here. So do I love my cheap DVC? Do I love marketing and working for the dev team? You bet.

Governance and the value of long and well thought out distribution is coming.

How nice (sarcasm)of Vitalik to plug our innovation and move on to Ethereum even using their own proposed governance system which ripped off that which Devcoin created...

What do we care. Our chain is under the radar, the most of the most secure - and no doubt, our devs from the co-founder with us today to our South American whiz kid and others who work on other projects yet help us immensely like Traxo and Vlad from iXcoin.

We are so very close. The distribution is almost optimal. Time for the next step...

A little Vitalik at Devcon when he must've read some good MarkM or Unthinkingbit posts on Bitcointalk.org the night before...

Quote
SocialCoin and the One World “Government”


The existence of a decentralized “real name” system allows for a large number of possibilities that have so far been unexplored in the cryptocurrency world. One attractive possibility is SocialCoin, the cryptocurrency that pays everyone in the world a “world citizen’s dividend” of 1000 units per month; another, similar alternative is to plug the system into a Devcoin-like system, allowing people to come together and vote on projects that the money should be spent on, thereby creating what is essentially a (voluntary) “world government” that funds itself from the revenue from generating new currency units. How much money could such a government get while still maintaining a low inflation rate? Here, there are two factors to keep in mind: people dying and losing their coins forever, and actual inflation.

Currently, when someone dies, their property automatically goes to their children or spouse by default. In a cryptocurrency, however, by default a person’s monetary savings simply become inaccessible since their passwords are lost. This destruction of coins creates a deflationary pressure; given the current death rate of around 8 per 1000 per year, multiplying by a factor of 2 to account for the fact that people tend to be somewhat wealthier than average at the time of their death, and then again dividing by 3 to take into account the fact that many people will have a system set up to ensure their wealth will go somewhere when they die (currently, about half the population has wills, and the divider can be bumped to 3 since people with more money are more likely to have them), we can get an estimate of 0.5% coin loss per year.

This, combined with a low target inflation rate of 1.5%, means that we can “print” 2% of the current money supply every year. Since cryptocurrencies will massively reduce the amount of fractional reserve banking in the world (as the cryptocurrency base unit is online, so individuals no longer “need” to store their money in banks in order to maintain savings accounts and make long-distance transactions), we can expect much of the world’s M2 and M3 money supply (ways of calculating money supply that include bank deposits) to become part of the base money supply of a cryptocurrency. The M2 money supply of the world is estimated at around $40 trillion, giving our world government a budget of $800 billion per year to play with – or, in the case of SocialCoin, a universal dividend of $114 per person per year.

In theory, a world government can do a lot with $800 billion per year; in practice, it remains to be seen how free from corruption such an institution would be, although in this case the fact that it will be controlled by direct democracy, and have no power to tax, can potentially serve as powerful restraints on abuse. It would essentially be a government in the sense of being an entity tasked with maintaining social infrastructure, but would lack the power to coerce and compel that might make it particularly dangerous. Or, we can simply stick with SocialCoin, and leave it up to each individual to improve their lives the best that they can with $114 per year – almost nothing to most people reading this article, but a very substantial amount in many underdeveloped countries. If the system can be made to rely on no centralized institutions and no tax revenue, it can secure a level of political neutrality that would allow it to be trusted by the entire world. Will it happen? Well, either wait and see to find out, or start implementing it yourself.

See also:

http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7050/bootstrapping-a-decentralized-autonomous-corporation-part-i/

http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7119/bootstrapping-an-autonomous-decentralized-corporation-part-2-interacting-with-the-world/

Source: https://blog.ethereum.org/2013/12/31/bootstrapping-a-decentralized-autonomous-corporation-part-3-identity-corp/
189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BANANO (BAN) Airdrops, Faucet Games, MonKeys, Feeless, Privacy, Mining on: July 20, 2021, 06:51:06 PM
Hey guys. This is satoshi0x from both Discord and Reddit. Thanks for having me on your show what a blast! Also - what a project. A full write up with my best efforts will follow tonight and the following days I'm sure. Smiley Very very happy to have found BANANO Smiley - and that DAG. Kinda what I was looking for to make sense of where we're headed and why projects like these are truly community driven, community directed, distributed beyond fairly etc. I am not a rich man, but I too love donating to both devs and community members. It is that part of distribution that gets us away from the ASIC flaws that may turn some folks away in past years and why the future projects like these can build communities back - and where there's enough coin/tokens/governance where we all can have a voice no matter what amounts we hold. Governance, true community DAO like votes, fair transfer of wealth... and people feeling good. I can see the potential of where this is headed. Thanks for the fun cryptocurrency based community with the devs and the technological advances to make this project work for everyone, not just the most equipped with hardware or the highest bidders Smiley You are carrying on a work that I truly believed in for a long time, even before your fork. And you've made these ideas even better that I valued since then and continue to believe in. <3

satoshi0x from discord and reddit.

Daniel Treccia
Devcoin A-Team
Marketing, Facebook Page Editor (@devcoin) Twitter (@_Devcoin)
devcoin.org and devtome.com
(DVC, Devcoin - since July 20 2011 - Celebrating 10 years)
190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: July 20, 2021, 04:04:06 AM
Is anyone working on wrapped Devcoin/bridging Devcoin onto other blockchains? For instance, an ERC-20 wrapped Devcoin token backed 1:1 with main chain Devcoin? This token could allow Devcoin holders to access a whole suite of new applications — decentralized exchanges, borrowing, etc.

That would be cool. As of now I believe the only place besides Stellar where a DVC asset exists is HORIZON in MarkM's "HZDVC" you can find that info here: https://makemoney.knotwork.com/horizon/assets/hzdvc/
191  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: June 29, 2021, 09:07:08 AM

Ok, half off.  .03 sat for 5 million dvc?  Unreal.  Real Bitcoin my...

You're probably the dumbest person in crypto:

https://block.d.evco.in/chain/Devcoin?hi=0

Furthermore in 2013, you could've just bought BTC. And presto, you're rich instead of a miserable 50 year old ranting and raving online about neo-Nazism and trashing other people's valid points.
192  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qortal Blockchain Project - decentralized trade - future of blockchain - v 1.5.2 on: June 29, 2021, 08:16:35 AM
Good job crowetic. been back over weeks since jrel_291 came out and the loading problems with the auto jrel_281 crashed my Qortal.exe Sad

However I expected to be in the hundreds of QORT by now and Level 2... I leave on almost 24/7... I wish there was a way to catchup but I've fallen behind aand I was here early with Traxo Sad

My name on qortal is satoshi0x
193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LDOGE] - LITEDOGE [Scrypt P.O.W, P.O.S 2.0, Ongoing Develoment 2021] on: June 25, 2021, 10:21:57 PM
Once upon a time LDOGE had deep liquidity against LTC and DOGE, back in the days of Cryptopia.

I think a good 2-3 year goal is for LDOGE community to build & provide a simple instant swap against LTC and DOGE once again.

It just makes sense.

I remember that. This is a sleeping giant of a coin with a hard-memory Smiley
194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tenebrix, a CPU-friendly, GPU-hostile cryptocurrency on: June 24, 2021, 03:22:50 AM
Hello,

What is the current market for tenebrix? I have a bag of 80k from back in the day and I would love to exchange them with another collector.

You ever keep going with Devcoin??
195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IXCoin [IXC] The Original Bitcoin Sidechain on: June 22, 2021, 01:46:48 AM
Noticed about a week ago there is another exchange out there (Marshall Islands based lol) that has IXC listed.

https://btcpop.co/home.php

Not much volume but thought I'd make a case for it as it lists MINT another project I've grown fond of. There's also cloud staking for IXC and they allegedly have 95% of their storage done offline (that is cold storage). Therefore, many of their holdings may be offline (not connected in a Hot Wallet to the internet). Could that be having effect if they hold a large amount of IXC?

If they’re holding a large amount and don’t plan to sell then ixc is a time bomb.  I’m not sure what they’re staking tho out of 1 coin per block.  I didn’t know miners were sharing the little they had.  And dont they need masternodes for that?  Would help secure the Ixc network.  Thanks for the research. 



I was thinking about DEX's that are Geo blocked in the USA. And obviously why they are geoblocked in the biggest spending country on Earth... as well as maybe where the truth of CEX (manipulated prices) lie? For example. Trading $7 in KMD for $25 of another crypto that once surpassed Bitcoin (BTC)'s market cap because of an inflationary tactic in days I could only read about.

I looked at their code and it seems they use electrum wallets to implement a coin. Perhaps that would also relay its true intrinsic or fundamental value from merge mining and serving as a sidechain/drivechain whatever you wanna call it to Bitcoin (in its original state, wherever that Bitcoin is...).

https://twitter.com/MasterGrimaldi/status/1404521478503243776?s=20

So I found some electrum code for ixcoin and tweeted at their developers.

<3

Code:
Licence: GNU GPL v3
Author: Thomas Voegtlin
Language: Python
Homepage: https://electrum.org/
Homepage: https://ixco.in/electrum

You think that's your "Thomas"?

Perhaps.  Vlad deduced using his high caliber INTP SUPERIOR LOGIC, a few years ago that it was probably Hal Thomas Finney. 

Yes, if we can ever confirm that, like his son getting out of bed and posting - then ixc wouid be Instamoon to $1,000. 


bookmarked for future merit lol. True story.
196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: June 22, 2021, 12:37:03 AM
https://www.facebook.com/devcoin << Like our page to find out more  Wink

Awesome coin design.  I want a few real ones but high quality like the pic.  Who made it, Carlos from BTX.  Top notch. 


It's a "Dinar" symbol




Selling 5 million dvc (its all I got) for .04.  Market price is .05.  That’s a decent discount.  Wish I could do better. 

Need it ASAP.  Thanks. 

Vlad

latestrates.traxo.me

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]
197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: June 16, 2021, 08:07:41 AM
https://www.facebook.com/devcoin << Like our page to find out more  Wink
198  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POS 3.0e | Super Rewards Bonanza on: June 14, 2021, 10:26:37 PM
Electra needs minimal effort to survive.
...
From Dogecoin Must learn

agree - but if you wan't help with that "minimal effort", better to organize with others...

So - may be - discuss in our discord group: https://discord.gg/FbHzrdAnGp

Any news from the new developers?
If this status continues, ECA will be delisted on most exchanges.

Yes was picked up by dogedex.xyz and atomicdex by Komodo Platform Wink
199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POS 3.0e | Super Rewards Bonanza on: June 14, 2021, 10:25:44 PM
anyone getting errors with their wallet connections?

logs looking like this

2021-05-08 10:12:09 SOCKS5 connecting seed07.electraproject.org
2021-05-08 10:12:09 ERROR: Error reading proxy response
2021-05-08 10:12:10 SOCKS5 connecting 2001:d08:c5:b532::1
2021-05-08 10:12:10 ERROR: Error reading proxy response
2021-05-08 10:12:10 SOCKS5 connecting seed08.electraproject.org
2021-05-08 10:12:11 ERROR: Error reading proxy response


Hi, electraproject.org was giving SSL errors yesterday when I tried to visit it and it is directly connected to the "ccore" block explorer when you click the upper left link "Electra Block Explorer" - clearly this is an SSL/TLS issue - but the nodes from the block explorer site mentioned work for eca so put them in your Electra.conf (assuming you're a WIndows user - I don't do linux or mac)
200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IXCoin [IXC] The Original Bitcoin Sidechain on: June 14, 2021, 07:33:35 PM
Noticed about a week ago there is another exchange out there (Marshall Islands based lol) that has IXC listed.

https://btcpop.co/home.php

Not much volume but thought I'd make a case for it as it lists MINT another project I've grown fond of. There's also cloud staking for IXC and they allegedly have 95% of their storage done offline (that is cold storage). Therefore, many of their holdings may be offline (not connected in a Hot Wallet to the internet). Could that be having effect if they hold a large amount of IXC?

If they’re holding a large amount and don’t plan to sell then ixc is a time bomb.  I’m not sure what they’re staking tho out of 1 coin per block.  I didn’t know miners were sharing the little they had.  And dont they need masternodes for that?  Would help secure the Ixc network.  Thanks for the research.  



I was thinking about DEX's that are Geo blocked in the USA. And obviously why they are geoblocked in the biggest spending country on Earth... as well as maybe where the truth of CEX (manipulated prices) lie? For example. Trading $7 in KMD for $25 of another crypto that once surpassed Bitcoin (BTC)'s market cap because of an inflationary tactic in days I could only read about.

I looked at their code and it seems they use electrum wallets to implement a coin. Perhaps that would also relay its true intrinsic or fundamental value from merge mining and serving as a sidechain/drivechain whatever you wanna call it to Bitcoin (in its original state, wherever that Bitcoin is...).

https://twitter.com/MasterGrimaldi/status/1404521478503243776?s=20

So I found some electrum code for ixcoin and tweeted at their developers.

<3

Code:
Licence: GNU GPL v3
Author: Thomas Voegtlin
Language: Python
Homepage: https://electrum.org/
Homepage: https://ixco.in/electrum

You think that's your "Thomas"?
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