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181  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 15, 2020, 04:53:21 AM
So I have tried a few times to download the Coinbase app needed to sign up for the Coinbase debit card. Each time I get "This is not supported in your country".

I use a VPN to set my IP in the US so is it not supported in the US? Or is it somehow detecting that I'm really in Panama?

Also, I finally got around to filing my extortion papers for the IRS.

Getting married helped keep me from needing to pay any taxes.

Land of the free...where you have to file your taxes even if you haven't stepped foot in the country all year.

You could renounce your citizenship, but you may well be anticipating getting some income such as social security or maybe you are receiving some other pension, which makes it a BIGGER trade off to renounce.

I am not saying that I agree with world-wide income taxation, and surely there are trade-offs with any system whether we are referring to taxation or other matters of figuring out if you get benefits or will get benefits in the future.   Sure, you likely subscribe to one of those libertarian views, and you have already admitted to it, and sure I have issues with libertarians trying to spin matters with out accounting for how to deal with various public goods, but you surely did not start your propounding of libertarian ideas in your teenage years, so you have some issues with your having had made too many USA connections in terms of either prior employment or your desires to return to the USA or to travel around the world with a USA passport causing you to be unwilling to renounce your citizenship.. because it will likely cost you more than what you are willing to admit to because you want to spin the taxation matter in one direction (sure we all have concerns about taxation how their spent and from whom they are collected).


To renounce my citizenship would require paying taxes on the total value of all of my bitcoin holdings as if I sold them the day I renounced. The thought of the amount of brown skinned people in far off lands who's skin will be burned off using my money does not sit well with me.

My thought is that the US will collapse in the next few years so it is not necessary to renounce my citizenship. US citizenship will cease to exist. Then I can just not sign onto the America 2 (the electric boogaloo) citizenship.

But not to worry. I filed this year so when you leave your house in the morning there will be roads.


Would relocating to Puerto Rico be an option, or got to pay taxes when leaving mainland either way?

Becoming a PR resident has significant tax benefits. Unique ones at that. But you'd still be a citizen of the USA. And subject to all that entails. Only one of which is Congress' ability to rescind the special tax exemption granted to -- only to -- residents of PR.

Seeing as there is new active discussion about rescinding the Jones act, this may open up a host of new considerations there.
182  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 15, 2020, 04:49:45 AM
jbreher likes to pump them up too, I wonder why that is?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  He might want to chime his picnic bear ass into the mix, as well.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

He tends to support centralization and trusted third partys for some unknown reason.
Makes me wonder sometimes why he supports bitcoin?

Examples would be helpful in buttressing your claim.

You support Coinbase and BSV, do I really need to add anything more than that?

Yes, you do. Coinbase as opposed to what? Binance? BitFinex?

BSV as opposed to what? BTC? From a fundamental analysis they are exactly as centralized as each other.

Kraken and Gemini

In what manner are Kraken or Gemini more decentralized than Coinbase?

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Why do BSvers always try to redefine the definition of decentralization? Are there no arguments you can come up with that don't require redefining meaning of words?

What the fuck are you babbling about now? As you seem to be accusing me of redefining 'decentralization', perhaps you might be so kind as to provide me with your personal definition thereof.

Umm the decentralized part was referring to BTC vs your scamcoin, and not the exchanges. The exchanges were suggested as alternatives to Coinbase, seems like everyone got that part except for you.

Still waiting for your:
1) explanation of how Coinbase suffers more as being a trusted third party than is Kraken or Gemini; and
2) personal definition of 'decentralization', so we may continue this discussion in a rational manner.

Coinbase is [...]

The topic on the table, DaRude, is not the ways Coinbase is evil, with the sole exception of them being centralized and trusted third parties. Stick to the goddam topic, ya ninny.

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As far as centralization, see, it's a common knowledge that BTC is more decentralized than BSv...

Lacking a common definition of 'decentralization', no. It is not 'common knowledge', as these aspects depend upon what the meaning of decentralization is.

Seeing as you are too pea-brained to even have a definition which allows your brain to classify things along a decentralization spectrum, I suggest that 'you're outta your element, Donnie', and you may as well forfeit the discussion.
183  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 15, 2020, 04:43:38 AM
jbreher likes to pump them up too, I wonder why that is?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  He might want to chime his picnic bear ass into the mix, as well.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

He tends to support centralization and trusted third partys for some unknown reason.
Makes me wonder sometimes why he supports bitcoin?

Examples would be helpful in buttressing your claim.

You support Coinbase and BSV, do I really need to add anything more than that?

Yes, you do. Coinbase as opposed to what? Binance? BitFinex?

BSV as opposed to what? BTC? From a fundamental analysis they are exactly as centralized as each other.

Kraken and Gemini

In what manner are Kraken or Gemini more decentralized than Coinbase?

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Why do BSvers always try to redefine the definition of decentralization? Are there no arguments you can come up with that don't require redefining meaning of words?

What the fuck are you babbling about now? As you seem to be accusing me of redefining 'decentralization', perhaps you might be so kind as to provide me with your personal definition thereof.

Umm the decentralized part was referring to BTC vs your scamcoin, and not the exchanges. The exchanges were suggested as alternatives to Coinbase, seems like everyone got that part except for you.

Still waiting for your:
1) explanation of how Coinbase suffers more as being a trusted third party than is Kraken or Gemini; and
2) personal definition of 'decentralization', so we may continue this discussion in a rational manner.

Wow.   Maybe we should have a poll on the topic jbreher?

Knock yourself out, though I don't see the relevance.

You summoned me indicating I like to 'support' coinbase.
Hueristic suggested it is because i like centralization and trusted third parties.
I pointed out that Hueristic's assertion was without merit.
Hueristic doubled down by conflating BSV with Coinbase.
I asked for an elaboration, as all exchanges are by definition centralized third parties, and that the BTC and BCH protocols are exactly as centralized as each other.
DaRude butted in in his/her typical clueless manner with 1) 'Kraken and Gemini', seemingly utterly ignorant of the fact that both these are also centralized trusted third parties; and 2) piled on implying I was changing the definition of decentralization.
I responded 1) asking how Kraken or Gemini are less centralized than Coinbase; and 2) asked for his/her definition of 'decentralization'.
DaRude then totally whiffed an answer, addressing neither of the points in discussion.
I responded pointing out that DaRude has addressed exactly zero of the points in discussion.
And full circle, you wade back in with irrelevancy about some poll.

That about sum it up? Yup, shore duz.

So after all that, to the point of you summoning me: yes, for my purposes, Coinbase is the proper exchange for me. Yes, it is a centralized trusted third party. AS IS EVERY FUCKING OTHER EXCHANGE.

As to the other topic somehow conflated in with the other. Yes, I understand that a good lot of you ascribe to the dogma that lotsa lotsa non-mining fully-validating clients equates to MOAR DECENTRALIZATION. Regardless of the relative amount of decentralization on any of a large number of other axes. And that lotsa lotsa minus one means that the entire system is in peril. You are of course wrong on both counts, but I get that all y'all think so. My point here is not to argue about that. It is to point out that your measure of centralization has fuck-all to do with any technical aspect of the coin/chain/client/code. It merely reflects the preferences of the market at this point in time, which is nothing more than the individual personal preferences of scads of individuals within the marketplace at this point in time.

Y'all are acting high and mighty about a state that is not due to anything fundamental, but rather due to collective whimsy.

So now that ONCE AGAIN, I have been incrementally goaded into stating my position AGAIN, lest idiots be allowed to put words in my mouth, are ya happy?

Didn't think so.
184  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 13, 2020, 06:05:41 PM
jbreher likes to pump them up too, I wonder why that is?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  He might want to chime his picnic bear ass into the mix, as well.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

He tends to support centralization and trusted third partys for some unknown reason.
Makes me wonder sometimes why he supports bitcoin?

Examples would be helpful in buttressing your claim.

You support Coinbase and BSV, do I really need to add anything more than that?

Yes, you do. Coinbase as opposed to what? Binance? BitFinex?

BSV as opposed to what? BTC? From a fundamental analysis they are exactly as centralized as each other.

Kraken and Gemini

In what manner are Kraken or Gemini more decentralized than Coinbase?

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Why do BSvers always try to redefine the definition of decentralization? Are there no arguments you can come up with that don't require redefining meaning of words?

What the fuck are you babbling about now? As you seem to be accusing me of redefining 'decentralization', perhaps you might be so kind as to provide me with your personal definition thereof.

Umm the decentralized part was referring to BTC vs your scamcoin, and not the exchanges. The exchanges were suggested as alternatives to Coinbase, seems like everyone got that part except for you.

Still waiting for your:
1) explanation of how Coinbase suffers more as being a trusted third party than is Kraken or Gemini; and
2) personal definition of 'decentralization', so we may continue this discussion in a rational manner.
185  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 13, 2020, 07:05:56 AM
BSV as opposed to what? BTC? From a fundamental analysis they are exactly as centralized as each other.

That's a steaming pile of horseshit if I ever saw one.

First of all, BTC's hash rate is about 60x bigger than that of BSV.

Second of all, BSV's hash rate is highly centralized among a small number of miners.

Such differences are not fundamental, and not due to any technical aspect of the coins/chains in question. They are merely differences in today's preferences of the market participants.

BSV is mineable by the same set of participants as is BTC.

And yes, collusion between three miners is sufficient to amass 51% hashpower on the BSV network today. While such collusion on the BTC network would require the astronomically higher number of four.   Roll Eyes
186  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 13, 2020, 05:20:49 AM
Gotta say... Joey your starting to get annoying with this qe bs...

Thant reminds me... I was cleaning accumulated detritus out of a rental storage unit I'm vacating after several decades of use. I ran across these old bookshelf stereo speakers, and did a little double take.

187  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 13, 2020, 05:11:47 AM
jbreher likes to pump them up too, I wonder why that is?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  He might want to chime his picnic bear ass into the mix, as well.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

He tends to support centralization and trusted third partys for some unknown reason.
Makes me wonder sometimes why he supports bitcoin?

Examples would be helpful in buttressing your claim.

You support Coinbase and BSV, do I really need to add anything more than that?

Yes, you do. Coinbase as opposed to what? Binance? BitFinex?

BSV as opposed to what? BTC? From a fundamental analysis they are exactly as centralized as each other.
So I have tried a few times to download the Coinbase app needed to sign up for the Coinbase debit card. Each time I get "This is not supported in your country".

I use a VPN to set my IP in the US so is it not supported in the US? Or is it somehow detecting that I'm really in Panama?

Also, I finally got around to filing my extortion papers for the IRS.

Getting married helped keep me from needing to pay any taxes.

Land of the free...where you have to file your taxes even if you haven't stepped foot in the country all year.


BREAKING: Coinbase is selling blockchain analytics software to the US Secret Service

https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/71261/coinbase-is-selling-blockchain-analytics-software-to-the-us-secret-service

Is that meant to buttress your accusation of not being decentralized? Or trusted third parties? Newsflash: exchanges are inherently centralized trusted third parties. They can be nothing but. Impossibru!
188  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 13, 2020, 05:07:06 AM
jbreher likes to pump them up too, I wonder why that is?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  He might want to chime his picnic bear ass into the mix, as well.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

He tends to support centralization and trusted third partys for some unknown reason.
Makes me wonder sometimes why he supports bitcoin?

Examples would be helpful in buttressing your claim.

You support Coinbase and BSV, do I really need to add anything more than that?

Yes, you do. Coinbase as opposed to what? Binance? BitFinex?

BSV as opposed to what? BTC? From a fundamental analysis they are exactly as centralized as each other.

Kraken and Gemini

In what manner are Kraken or Gemini more decentralized than Coinbase?

Quote
Why do BSvers always try to redefine the definition of decentralization? Are there no arguments you can come up with that don't require redefining meaning of words?

What the fuck are you babbling about now? As you seem to be accusing me of redefining 'decentralization', perhaps you might be so kind as to provide me with your personal definition thereof.
189  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 12, 2020, 09:15:13 PM
jbreher likes to pump them up too, I wonder why that is?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  He might want to chime his picnic bear ass into the mix, as well.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

He tends to support centralization and trusted third partys for some unknown reason.
Makes me wonder sometimes why he supports bitcoin?

Examples would be helpful in buttressing your claim.

You support Coinbase and BSV, do I really need to add anything more than that?

Yes, you do. Coinbase as opposed to what? Binance? BitFinex?

BSV as opposed to what? BTC? From a fundamental analysis they are exactly as centralized as each other.

As far as nodes are concerned the story is way different.

BSV count: 326
BTC count: 7721

California ON IT'S own has nearly as many BTC nodes as the entire world for BSV.

I have seen analysis that shows that the vast majority run on Digital Ocean VPS instances.

https://api.blockchair.com

As long as there are no structural barriers preventing parties from booting up a fully validating client, it is exactly as decentralized on that axis as it need be.
190  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 12, 2020, 08:33:01 PM
jbreher likes to pump them up too, I wonder why that is?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  He might want to chime his picnic bear ass into the mix, as well.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

He tends to support centralization and trusted third partys for some unknown reason.
Makes me wonder sometimes why he supports bitcoin?

Examples would be helpful in buttressing your claim.

You support Coinbase and BSV, do I really need to add anything more than that?

Yes, you do. Coinbase as opposed to what? Binance? BitFinex?

BSV as opposed to what? BTC? From a fundamental analysis they are exactly as centralized as each other.
191  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 11, 2020, 02:17:48 AM
jbreher likes to pump them up too, I wonder why that is?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  He might want to chime his picnic bear ass into the mix, as well.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

He tends to support centralization and trusted third partys for some unknown reason.
Makes me wonder sometimes why he supports bitcoin?

Examples would be helpful in buttressing your claim.
192  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 11, 2020, 02:16:00 AM
jbreher likes to pump them up too, I wonder why that is?  He might want to chime his picnic bear ass into the mix, as well. 

I don’t pump coinbase up so much as I point out that for a good number of use cases, they are apparently the best option.
193  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 09, 2020, 06:06:58 PM
This is my 20,000th post. If I do another 20,000 I think I'll be rather disappointed in myself somehow.

I was going to threaten suicide or demand money to stay, or leave, but I'll save that for the 21,000th.

Go, me.

Oh, yeah?

Well, MY post count is at an ATH!
194  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 02, 2020, 03:48:18 AM
So, in the meantime I thought I would fire up an old bitcoin wallet from 2014 and see just what I was spending coins on.

Some gems include:

Wii U console: .5 bitcoins, $4,600 in today's money
Delivered Pizza including tip: .02btc,  $184
Towels for the house: .4 bitcoin, $3680


While it is true I have been able to enjoy these things for the past 6 years, they did wind up costing me a lot. Something to keep in mind if you sell your bitcoins today, in 6 years you might be thinking "I could have bought xxxxx with that money"



If nobody had ever spent any of their bitcoins, Bitcoin would have no value.

Lazlo did his part back in 2010 and gave Bitcoin its first real-world monetary value. He said the pizzas were delicious. Hopefully he 's still holding much more than he spent and he's filthy rich.

I've still got my 2 black BTC ballcaps , which cost me about $30 in Bitcoin at the times I bought them and are now worth thousands (the older one) and hundreds (the newer one). They're still comfortable, albeit a little worn and sweat-stained. I wear them now only on special occasions, mainly for $5 wrench reasons. I feel I too was doing my part in my small way. I managed to hold enough coins to live happily ever after. Maybe some day I'll be filthy rich too.

Be proud that you did your part toward making Bitcoin what it is today and what it will be some day. Hopefully you're still holding enough coins to be filthy rich some day too.

I spent a full BTC on a dozen old hyperinflated Zimbabwean currency notes. Money well spent, in an ironic sort of way.
195  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 02, 2020, 03:44:48 AM
the evening wall report

...

snake climbs up mountain and spits fire

...just a quick note to let you know that I so enjoy your colorful trend descriptions.
196  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 01, 2020, 06:09:14 AM
If someone is coming 10 times or more a year, start looking at how (s)he makes his/her money.

Dang. It seems to me that I used to be coming 10 or more times a day, but I guess I have long left those pubescent days behind.
197  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 28, 2020, 05:28:02 PM
BCH ATL

Say it is not so
BCH at ATL?
Disinformation

#haiku #debunking
198  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 27, 2020, 06:23:54 AM
https://eodashboard.org/

The tri-agency COVID-19 Dashboard is a concerted effort between the European Space Agency (ESA), Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA), and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). The dashboard combines the resources, technical knowledge and expertise of the three partner agencies to strengthen our global understanding of the environmental and economic effects of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Because ... what else do these space exploration agencies have to do?

Oh, right... I guess Elon has their chartered responsibilities covered. Gotta find some work to do.

I keed, I keed.

Still don't get it.
199  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 26, 2020, 10:53:27 PM
 The recent Laura Shin (meh)

Don't be bagging on Laura Shin now. Her first long format piece in Forbes was the first proper introduction to Bitcoin for a whole host of Wall Street types.
200  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 26, 2020, 10:49:37 PM
Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still over the veggie line... currently $9106USD/$12488CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Isn't it about time we started going up?

Why do so many people in here have hats as their avatar

A hat helps protect your face from satellite-mounted cameras with face-recognition software.

But a hat does not help protect you from satellite-mounted cameras with gait-recognition software.
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