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1801  Other / Politics & Society / Re: the social Bitcoin on: December 23, 2013, 11:17:20 PM
wow...so easy? genious. Brazlian Government must be stupid ;-)

They wouldn't be having favelas, or riots, if it wasn't.

when slavery ended, government did nothing for the now free slaves. if the government had had social programs like the actual government has, they would never have formed. 
1802  Other / Politics & Society / Re: the social Bitcoin on: December 23, 2013, 10:47:29 PM
you mean the favelas would stop existing in a 100% free market?

Yes! Because outside investment (foreign corps and businesses) would come in and employ the hell out of all those poor workers, since they are already used to being paid almost nothing, then over time (noot a very long time) these workers would learn skills on the job, demand higher pay for hiquer quaality work, and because there will be fewer of them available to employ (unemployment will go down), and many of them would end up in lower-middle class status. Exactly as it happened in many of the Southeast Asian countries, where people were poorer than they are even in Brazilian favelas, but are now way richer than them.


wow...so easy? genious. Brazlian Government must be stupid ;-)
1803  Other / Politics & Society / Re: the social Bitcoin on: December 23, 2013, 10:27:36 PM

Are you implying that free market capitalists are against this?




Or this, or they are just to innocent to realize that people are not like this in the video.

cause reality is this:

http://placemanagementandbranding.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/favela1.jpg

The immage is of a favela, a shanty town in Brazil. It is also an example of what you get if your country ranks 126th out of 181 in "ease of doing business" rankings from excessive regulations which prevent private investment,  and a corruption score that places Brazil 72nd in the world, worse than Italy, which is known for its mafias and corrupt government officials, and even worse than African nations like Ghana and Rwanda.

Yes, this is a perfect example of what happens when there is the exact opposite of a "free market" in a country.


you mean the favelas would stop existing in a 100% free market? that's stupid. they were formed in a 100% free market: slavery and after
1804  Other / Politics & Society / Re: the social Bitcoin on: December 23, 2013, 09:05:25 AM

Are you implying that free market capitalists are against this?




Or this, or they are just to innocent to realize that people are not like this in the video.

cause reality is this:

1805  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's wrong with unequal wealth distribution? (Was: 2013-12-10 Bitcoin Proves.. on: December 22, 2013, 02:43:14 PM

binary people are amusing.

they are not worth discussion, they wont open their mind
1806  Other / Politics & Society / Re: the social Bitcoin on: December 21, 2013, 05:35:15 PM
haters gonna hate:

http://www.videosdodia.com/vida-da-muitas-voltas/
1807  Local / Announcements (Deutsch) / Re: [ANN] Die "Deutsche eMark" - unser deutscher Altcoin - SHA256,POS&POW on: December 20, 2013, 10:32:51 PM
Würde ich nicht zwingend sagen... Habe bis vor ein paar Tagen relativ erfolgreich Solomining betrieben mit 10Gh/s. Mittlerweile ist Solomining aber
mit so wenig Gh/s etwas mühsam.. Aber in nem Pool kommt trotzdem genug rum. Probier es einfach aus. FAQ ist sicher in gewisser Form
das DeM Forum.

dann kann ich das wohl mit meine core-i3 onboard chip vergessen. hehehehe
1808  Local / Announcements (Deutsch) / Re: [ANN] Die "Deutsche eMark" - unser deutscher Altcoin - SHA256,POS&POW on: December 20, 2013, 06:34:55 PM
gibt es irgend eine FAQ?

das minen ohne ASIC ist warscheinlich unsinnig oder?
1809  Local / Announcements (Deutsch) / Re: [ANN] Die "Deutsche eMark" - unser deutscher Altcoin - SHA256,POS&POW on: December 20, 2013, 05:45:17 PM
http://forum.deutsche-emark.org/index.php?topic=521.0

from Shezal
____

Clone the git repository

git clone https://github.com/emarkproject/DEM
cd DEM
qmake eMark-qt.pro
make
strip eMark-qt

Then just copy the eMark-qt binary somewhere and run it  Smiley
_____


danke Dir
1810  Local / Announcements (Deutsch) / Re: [ANN] Die "Deutsche eMark" - unser deutscher Altcoin - SHA256,POS&POW on: December 20, 2013, 05:05:11 PM
Linux Wallet?
1811  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's wrong with unequal wealth distribution? (Was: 2013-12-10 Bitcoin Proves.. on: December 20, 2013, 04:50:38 PM


Quote
teaching people how to resolve their misery and better their life.





what will this solve? the pyramid won't change like this. for everybody going up a class, somebody has to go down.
1812  Other / Politics & Society / Re: the social Bitcoin on: December 20, 2013, 10:57:11 AM
I was thinking a lot about how to respond the "Holocaust denial" - like arguments of some here, but i just suggest you guys continue in this "this world is perfect, why change?"-thread and leave this here ontopic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=370034.0




just leaving you a text from Bessie A. Stanley:



"What is Success?

To laugh often and love much; to win the respect of intelligent persons and the affection of children; to earn the approbation of honest citizens and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate beauty; to find the best in others; to give of one’s self; to leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition; to have ?played and laughed with enthusiasm and sung with exultation; to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived—this is to have succeeded"
1813  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Software zum Traden, Beobachten etc. - Welche ? on: December 19, 2013, 03:17:27 PM
...
warum dann nicht MT4 trading mit BTC-E? ist ne solide Exchange (im Vergleich zu den anderen)
Ich werde den MT4 mit noch testen...
Aber kein Trader beschränkt sich auf eine Börse!  Wink Und dass es bei btc-e auch sehr oft ziemlich massive Problem bei Deposit und Auszahlung von Fiat Geld kommt - siehe "money hold" - darf man auch nicht verschweigen. Von den Gebühren Strukturen für Ein- UND Auszahlungen etc.. mal abgesehen.


leider habe wir nix was auch nur anähernd an eie profisionelle Börse erinnert. Das wird wohl erst mit ein bischen Regulametation kommen.
1814  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Software zum Traden, Beobachten etc. - Welche ? on: December 19, 2013, 01:01:42 PM
aber wozu in MT4 analysieren?

hier haste alle grossen Exchanges mit vergleichbaren Analysewerkzeugen: https://www.tradingview.com/e/d7VGOX6Q/
Das ist ganz nett und bunt etc.  Grin
Aber ich finde zB keine BID/ASK Kurse und Tickbasis! (kleinste Zeiteinheit ist dort 1 Minute)!
Und von Trading wollen wir da ja gar nicht erst reden. Wink

Schöne Tradingplattform für Mt. Gox /Bitstamp ist: https://rtbtc.com/


Nur, was ist mit?
  • Open Source?
  • eigenen Anpassungen
  • eigener Datenbank mit den Trades (BID/ASK Kursen)?
  • usw...


warum dann nicht MT4 trading mit BTC-E? ist ne solide Exchange (im Vergleich zu den anderen)
1815  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Software zum Traden, Beobachten etc. - Welche ? on: December 19, 2013, 12:32:09 PM
aber wozu in MT4 analysieren?

hier haste alle grossen Exchanges mit vergleichbaren Analysewerkzeugen: https://www.tradingview.com/e/d7VGOX6Q/
1816  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Software zum Traden, Beobachten etc. - Welche ? on: December 19, 2013, 12:30:38 PM
gib es einen thread/anleitung wie ich bei metatrader den bitcoinkurs einlesen kann? thx

wie wärs mit Bitcointrading in MT4? https://btc-e.com/news/183
Da brauchst du aber scheinbar extra einen account. Your authorization is needed to browse this page
https://btc-e.com/profile#meta_trader


Nicht das große Problem, aber wie bekommt man dann Bitstamp und Kraken (mtgox) etc in den МetaTrader?






bekommste nicht. aber zum traden in MT4 (abgesehen von Avatrade's CFD mit Riesenspread) ist es die einzige Möglichkeit.

zum analysieren kannste nen Demoaccount bei Avatrade machen, der Kurs dort is an MtGox orientiert (abre nicht gleich, wegen des künstlich erhöhten spreads)
1817  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Start Meta Trader 4 - BTC-e.com on: December 19, 2013, 10:35:42 AM
any updates/news how to connect/use metatrader and btc-e.com?

see your post on german thread
1818  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Software zum Traden, Beobachten etc. - Welche ? on: December 19, 2013, 10:34:41 AM
gib es einen thread/anleitung wie ich bei metatrader den bitcoinkurs einlesen kann? thx

wie wärs mit Bitcointrading in MT4? https://btc-e.com/news/183
1819  Other / Politics & Society / Re: the social Bitcoin on: December 15, 2013, 11:51:27 AM
There are two types of people..The Oppressors and the Oppressed..When the Oppressed wake up and say they have had enough then many different types of economic systems will come to the Fore so then nothing will really matter.

The question is who is who? Are the workers the oppressed, and the businesses and corporations the oppressors, in which case the workers will rise up, take control, and relieve the wealthy business owners of their wealth, as happened in communist revolutions during the last century?
Or are the business people and entrepreneurs the oppressed, and the workers the oppressors, feeling that it is unfair that some people have much and they have little, and using the power of government to regulate and take from those business people and entrepreneurs, in which case it's the wealthy business types that will rise up, take their wealth, and move elsewhere? This wasn't really possible with wealth being stored in banks, since that wealth could just be frozen and confiscated by governments, but it's possible now...


yea, and the enslavors where the victoms in slavory. SInce i know Bitcoin and got to know the libertarian sect (for me it is a sect because of confirmation bias, profetizing satoshi, citing half a frase of him as a commandment, etc.) my forehead allready got flat like a board. never facepalmed so much.



n which case it's the wealthy business types that will rise up, take their wealth, and move elsewhere?


would be nice, let them take all their wealth and go to Mars. would give the humanity another chance. and this time we install an antivirus
1820  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's wrong with unequal wealth distribution? (Was: 2013-12-10 Bitcoin Proves.. on: December 15, 2013, 04:33:11 AM
If rich value them and use them to trade, why would they be useless? Can you trade 1 kilogram bars of gold? No. But I bet you wish you could.


ok, if only the 5% that own 95% of the coins accept them as value, they wont be able to pay their workers with it, they wont be able to buy any product of "the other 95%"

I would not be surprised that 5% owns 95% of all gold bars. Probably of all gold in existence. This 5% mostly uses it as store of value, and to trade amongst themselves. Does this mean that 95% do not want to have gold, too? Would you not want receive any gold as payment? Since you know this 5% accepts this currency, and they also likely own many of the biggest businesses, why would workers not take it, if they know they can use it to buy anything they want from 5%? There is higher chance the 5% will not take some currency that 95% make, than 95% not taking currency that 5% have. Richard Branson is now taking bitcoin, and many rich still have gold, but no rich person takes Fureai Kippu or Ithaca Hours.

perhaps because it's the first time they are getting consciousness that they don't have to accept the value of "gold" (wich is BTC in that case)? i'm asking, because i don't know; i'm still thinking about all this. all i know is that you can't compare virtual currencies to fiat neither gold. why has gold value for everyone? because everybody told them it has, their whole life. now with Bitcoin everybody gets the chance to "think" for the first time. and this time we have the internet.
i'm still brainstorming about all this
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