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1801  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / great quote from J.C. Hewitt on: May 18, 2011, 02:42:11 AM
It seems to be quite an intense debate about bitcoin on quora.com.

I've noticed a great quote from a guy named J.C. Hewitt:

That being said, I think that Bitcoin may wind up thriving. The ideological impetus behind it is admirable. The technological achievement is impressive. I like that it was motivated by science fiction, like most great technologies. I think that it should be free to compete with other currencies.
1802  Other / Off-topic / Dominique Strauss-Kahn on: May 18, 2011, 01:23:02 AM

To me this DSK affair is a shame for my country.  Especially since french medias knew about his perverted behaviors, but they didn't talk about it, pretexting it was his "private life".

I'm ashamed to be french, honnestly.
1803  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Prerecorded Bitcoin national radio ad starts today! on: May 17, 2011, 10:31:11 PM

I like it.

It's tough to make a national radio ad about bitcoin without making it sound like some scam/commercial stuff.  I think you managed to make something that's clear about what bitcoin is.  I would have liked to hear it's open source software, though.
1804  Economy / Economics / Re: What happens when Bitcoins are illegalized in the whole world? on: May 17, 2011, 02:57:12 PM
If bitcoin is ever made illegal worldwide, I'll just hope international organized crime will have already started to use it and offer a shadow exchange service.
1805  Local / Discussions générales et utilisation du Bitcoin / Re: Prouver l'écoulement du temps on: May 17, 2011, 02:12:26 PM
Ton idée me parait difficile à mettre en pratique.

Limiter le hash à une épreuve d'une trentaine de secondes toutes les dix minutes, c'est peut-être faisable techniquement (et encore je vois mal comment), mais de toute façon cela nécessiterait une difficulté bien plus grande (en gros d'un facteur 10*60/30= 20) pour garder un taux de forks comparable.  Donc ça s'oppose au but initial qui est de réduire la consommation d'énergie.
Au bout de 30s chaque mineur envoi son meilleur hash sur le réseau, il n'y a plus de notion de difficulté à atteindre. Chaque noeud reçoit ces hashs et les accepte ou pas s'ils arrivent après un certain délai (tout comme les blocks bitcoin qui contiennent un timestamp).
Pour limiter le temps de l'épreuve, il faut que les données nécessaires à celle-ci soient connues juste avant le début de l'épreuve, et c'est ce à quoi sert le hash du block précédent (tout comme bitcoin, à la différence qu'ici on sait quand il va arriver).

L'acceptation d'un block ne peut pas dépendre de la perception qu'en a un noeud.  Car sinon on remplace une course à la puissance par une course aux noeuds (cf. plus haut).

Je ne sais pas très bien comment est géré le timestamp en unité temporelles normales.  Je sais en gros que c'est une moyenne constatées sur les noeuds environnants, mais je sais surtout que ce n'est pas trop ce qui compte dans l'acceptation d'un block.  Le timestamp qui compte c'est celui qui est exprimé en unités temporelles machines, c'est à dire le hash lui-même.

Si tu te fies à un timestamp conventionnel, alors il suffit de posséder suffisamment de noeuds sur le réseau pour mentir sur ton temps machine.
1806  Local / Discussions générales et utilisation du Bitcoin / Re: Prouver l'écoulement du temps on: May 17, 2011, 01:11:52 PM
En rendant le système inactif 90% du temps, vous offririez du temps aux attaquants.
Ils pourraient l'utiliser pour donner du poids à des blocs dans lesquels leurs propres transactions ont été modifiées (double dépense).

Bien vu.  Ça m'avait échappé.
1807  Local / Discussions générales et utilisation du Bitcoin / Re: Prouver l'écoulement du temps on: May 17, 2011, 12:31:44 PM

Ton idée me parait difficile à mettre en pratique.

Limiter le hash à une épreuve d'une trentaine de secondes toutes les dix minutes, c'est peut-être faisable techniquement (et encore je vois mal comment), mais de toute façon cela nécessiterait une difficulté bien plus grande (en gros d'un facteur 10*60/30= 20) pour garder un taux de forks comparable.  Donc ça s'oppose au but initial qui est de réduire la consommation d'énergie.

1808  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin flag floating in the wind on: May 17, 2011, 10:08:33 AM
@bruce:  There is not much to discuss, really.  I tried to release it on CC-BY license,  but maybe I should have tried to publish it on public domain.

It's not a big deal, just do whatever you want with this file.   You can also search "blender flag" on google video.  You'll see it's quite easy to do it yourself.
1809  Economy / Economics / Re: What happens if the US bans the use of bitcoins? on: May 17, 2011, 03:12:04 AM

I wonder if there could be a way to create a shadow market exchange.

Basically it would be like MtGox, but instead of explicitely trading bitcoins, we would trade some other digital stuffs, such as images.  The bitcoin transfers would still occur but in an hidden way.

If some customers get "caught", others could just deny having done the same thing.
1810  Economy / Marketplace / Re: xkcd's bitcoin hole on: May 17, 2011, 01:02:10 AM

Just curious:  does anyone still have the bitcoin address so I can have a look and see if he spent his bitcoins?

1811  Economy / Economics / Re: Difficulty skyrocketing! on: May 17, 2011, 12:56:57 AM


Oh my god, how stupid is that!??

What's the point of having a debt ceiling if congress keeps increasing it each time it is reached?

It's a joke, right?
1812  Economy / Marketplace / Re: xkcd's bitcoin hole on: May 16, 2011, 11:47:38 PM
His black hole is gone? The page is blank! http://xkcd.com/bitcoin/

Well, I guess it was really a black hole, as this guy probably lost interest in bitcoin and dropped his wallet.  Too bad for him, imho.
1813  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / [SPLIT]Re: Bitcoin press hits, notable sources on: May 16, 2011, 11:36:33 PM
There is every reason to kill them. They are all useless and unnecessarily consuming resources of this planet

And people wonder why readers of this forum often dismiss BitCoin entirely.

This is one post out of 120729.

On every forum at some point some people cross lines.

Moreover, you're a moderator.  Feel free to moderate him.
1814  Economy / Economics / Re: Governments worldwide embraces Bitcoin's economic fluidity and transaction tax. on: May 16, 2011, 11:27:38 PM
A Bitcoin tax will however have to be implemented in the client - and more than 50% of Bitcoin client users will have to democratically elect to the use of this client - all in the spirit of Bitcoin.

I think it's rather 50% of bitcoin processing power, which is quite different.

Basically this client would reject all transactions that don't include a fee to some particular address belonging to the government.   Neat idea.
1815  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / [SPLIT]Re: Bitcoin press hits, notable sources on: May 16, 2011, 11:23:50 PM
There is every reason to kill them. They are all useless and unnecessarily consuming resources of this planet

To be fair, their job was useful before bitcoin came out.  What was not acceptable was only the fact that they used government to enforce their monopoly on this economic sector.
1816  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin intrusion in your life on: May 16, 2011, 12:59:11 AM




 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
1817  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / bitcoin intrusion in your life on: May 16, 2011, 12:40:28 AM
I answered 'Totally'

Somehow I wonder if I'll ever manage to free my mind from this whole project.
1818  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "bitcoin is the most dangerous open source project ever created" on: May 16, 2011, 12:06:43 AM
now Robert Scoble is tweeting about bitcoin

http://twitter.com/#!/Scobleizer/status/69912540351709184

prepare for the bitcoin price spike - will go through $10 easily next week.

God damn it I'm still waiting for some funds to be received by MtGox.  Bloody bank wire delays....
1819  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "bitcoin is the most dangerous open source project ever created" on: May 15, 2011, 11:49:11 PM
Also, if you cut out all ways to buy bitcoins using the banking system, you have an absolute huge effect on the economy.

It will happen soon or later.  They'll have MtGox and other currency exchange closed.

However, I'm pretty sure that won't destroy the bitcoin economy.   But only time will tell.
1820  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "bitcoin is the most dangerous open source project ever created" on: May 15, 2011, 11:32:49 PM
Sounds more like praise than fear.


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Yes. It's praise. I am a technotarian--and in fact the creator of the word (I think).

I'm a huge fan of bitcoin and hope that it take hold. 

Hi Jason,

I've just realised that you are quite a famous and successful IT entrepreneur.  Welcome on this forum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Calacanis
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