^ It's either someone will whisper to them that they are the underdog or his team are into social media (most likely) and they will find it out sooner or later. But it shouldn't matter though, Magsayo should focus on the fight itself and not what analyst or bettors are feeling. Just accept if he will be the underdog, he has the belt to proved that he is a champion anyways. The fight is like a couple of weeks from now and hopefully Magsayo should just peak in time and not overtrain in this fight. That's the only thing that might be a factor for him, maybe he will overtrain because he want to give us fans a good fight.
Yeah, but does it really matter if he is listed as underdog or if his team knows about it? He might probably just smile if the odds is out by now or the day prior to the fight. What is important is that he come to fight and beat Vargas by whatever means. Of course we would like for him to score a knock out, but a decision win is acceptable as well. Nah! That won't really matter and as if they care enough if they are listed as favorite or underdog. Their performance won't be based on that listing just like being listed as a favorite won't guarantee one's victory. Both boxers will fight for their own legacy as they are both undefeated but Magsayo should definitely try to win this fight as he's the one who can't afford to lose rather than the challenger. Yes, there are a lot of upsets in boxing, and Mark if ever be the underdog, will be a good one as what we have discussed previously. And I also didn't see any pressure coming for him, he just need to go and fight hard and hopefully their training and work will payoff if he will score that knock out. Vargas is undefeated and has the experience, but it doesn't mean that Mark can't take him out. Yeah, I see the same way too. Magsayo might be our compatriot so, of course, our support will go for him but what I like about him is that his talents are undeniable and that same capability is already enough to take out Vargas from the list. Also, he got Coach Freddie and that counts as an advantage as the man has some incredible experience. |
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So what will happen if his win is not impressive again? Will Golden Boy promotion will look for another easy fight until Garcia will have an impressive win? I don't think that will happen, I believe this is going to be his last fight before he gets into a bigger fight, and he should fight a boxer that is willing to fight him toe to toe so we will be able to see an entertaining fight.
I think if this end up unimpressive again, they will do another cherry picking until Ryan Garcia will look good in the ring. He got exposed on the Campbell fight, no matter what their camp say, that knockdown exposes his chin and take his confidence away. I think Golden Boy will do the risky thing for Ryan once they will be offered a championship fight against Davis or Haney, all or nothing for him i would say. That would take too long before we will see a big fight of Ryan Garcia, yes, his chin was exposed but the most important is he got up and beat Campbell by KO, it's more than enough to prove that he really is a strong fighter, so I hope this would be the last fight and they will focus on the real fight for him. He managed to get up that time but the fact that his chin was exposed will remain as an open book to other boxers in the same division, and Garcia's chin will be one of the few targets because it was already proven that it was his weakness especially if his opponents are the likes of Kambosos Jr. and Gervonta Davis. If Garcia will still fail in his fight against Fortuna then I'm afraid that he's just one of those hyped boxers that haven't overcome their struggles. |
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Wow! That was fast, he was just fighting Don Moore last month and now he have another exhibition fight, Floyd Mayweather surely knows how to keep his brand known and doing business anywhere in the world for more money. Though I'm not that sure that he started this whole exhibition matches, I know there some matches like these in the late 19th century but in 20th century, many have gone to exhibition matches after they retired, it's just that Mayweather is the remaining person who is capable to sell these fights now. Right, Floyd can't resist the money for sure, that's why he will be back with his exhition matches again to where he started it all, in Japan. I'm still baffled as to how Rizin can afford Floyd, maybe the first exhibition really gave them a big boost as far as business again as it was reported that Rizin is losing a lot of money as a promotional company. Nevertheless, having this fight again means they still have the big money to offer to Floyd and in return they will also rake profits. I thought though that Floyd vs Manny is being work out. Wait a minute, when you say Manny, do you mean Pacquiao? because if that is the case my interest will increase a lot, because the truth is I don't like the style that Mayweather has, the truth is I'm still disappointed in what he showed in his fight against him, where they agreed not to give any rematch, for me Mayweather is a boxer who He is only interested in fucking money before anything else, for this reason when it comes to exhibition fights they do not attract much attention to me, because it is not the same interest as a fight with all the law, but in an eventual fight of exhibition against Pacquiao if I would like to see it, maybe I haven't seen much news regarding boxing lately because football has me hooked. Yes mate, that's Manny Pacquiao. There's this rumor that both camps are in the talks regarding an exhibition fight between the two of them especially Manny as he's now free from politics after he was lost in the presidential race. I don't exactly know why their rematch didn't happen when it's clear that people wanted a rematch and money is already on the table for the two of them but suddenly they decided that a rematch is not possible anymore despite having some beefs with each other. |
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Of all the addictions gambling and drugs are two of the worse, they will exhaust your finances and drain your emotion and the road to recovery is long and hard you don't just need advice you badly needed professional help to get these two additions out of your system, gambling addiction will have an impact to your family and to your job, your family and people will not trust you of your people, if you have a caring family the road to recovery will be much easier.
I definitely agree with you on that, gambling and drug addiction are really worse than can happen to any of us. The fact that we won't be able to weigh things correctly will make the situations more messy and hard to overcome and some of those options includes our loved ones and families, messy finances comes with the package. I'm afraid that a year or two won't be enough just to get you back on the normal straight path. |
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Therefore, identifying a rigged game might no be easy to spot on. It does require the cooperation of everyone involved in that line of sport to make it unnoticeable.
It's totally difficult and sometimes we suspect games that have been rigged because we bet for the losing team. And that makes us think that the game is unacceptable because we're wrong with our bets or with the teams that we're supporting. Out of frustration, we're thinking that there's magic with the result even though it's visible and clear that there's no cheat, no rig but just pure game and the winning team deserves it. This is the thought and mindset that we have when we can't accept defeat. Well, oftentimes, that's also the case but sometimes we may doubt something about the game because there are these instances that a player could've produced more numbers or either they can make that shot/goal but it didn't happen and it resulted to a loss in our side as that's where we gambled. But if we look closely, they are also human beings who could make some errors along the way. |
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as well as Kyrie already played with Lebron in Cleveland and they get along.
Did they not split because Kyrie was unhappy being with Lebron after they lost the championship? Sure they patched up their relationship off the court but that doesn't really mean they can play together again and do well. Kyrie will probably the dominant Alpha on that Lakers team if the trade happens and I'm not sure if an aging Lebron would be happy about that. Kyrie left because he wants to be the main man on the Cavs team, he went to Boston thinking he could be the main man over there, but no, Brown and Tatum has already been 2 of the best Boston by the time. Kyrie had an attitude problem, If he have overcome that character and became matured enough to win another ring, I guess LeBron and him could get along well again just like how they bear the 73-9 GSW. I think Kyrie in Boston boils down to respect, he didn't get that because of his attitude, I remember him shouting with Smart or even Brown because of some plays, and he was very frustrated. And that's why the Celtics management decided to trade him and it was a good idea. And, it does really make sense if the Lakers would trader Davis coz he is most likely to get injured again and miss more than half of the season. worse the whole season.
I think Davis is still good to be a Lakers with Lebron, but yes, one thing against Davis is that he is prone to injury and that is something that the Lakers will have to think. It should be a good trade if they are willing to let go of Davis. Kyrie comes off to me as a very selfish person. The Nets likely would have had a better seed in the playoffs and more wins in the regular season had Kyrie not been a bitch and got vaccinated. He missed half the damn season being selfish. We won't hear the Durant wants him traded, but i'll bet he has voiced his opinion behind closed doors. Basketball is a TEAM sport, not an individual sport. These guys are paid literally MILLIONS of dollars. Get the damn vaccine and help your team out. Kyrie doesn't think like that. I admit I'm also getting the same aura with Irving. I mean he's one good player but his ego is much bigger, the man had a signed contract with the Brooklyn Nets which clearly states that he's responsible to play with the team even if there's Covid-19 or not but he choose to neglect that responsibility and left the team in the middle where the team badly needs it because Durant was also injured and Harden was the one playing for the team, luckily he evaded with the team and got shelter with the Sixers. |
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^ It's either someone will whisper to them that they are the underdog or his team are into social media (most likely) and they will find it out sooner or later. But it shouldn't matter though, Magsayo should focus on the fight itself and not what analyst or bettors are feeling. Just accept if he will be the underdog, he has the belt to proved that he is a champion anyways. The fight is like a couple of weeks from now and hopefully Magsayo should just peak in time and not overtrain in this fight. That's the only thing that might be a factor for him, maybe he will overtrain because he want to give us fans a good fight.
Yeah, but does it really matter if he is listed as underdog or if his team knows about it? He might probably just smile if the odds is out by now or the day prior to the fight. What is important is that he come to fight and beat Vargas by whatever means. Of course we would like for him to score a knock out, but a decision win is acceptable as well. Nah! That won't really matter and as if they care enough if they are listed as favorite or underdog. Their performance won't be based on that listing just like being listed as a favorite won't guarantee one's victory. Both boxers will fight for their own legacy as they are both undefeated but Magsayo should definitely try to win this fight as he's the one who can't afford to lose rather than the challenger. |
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That was an arranged fight, we can really expect a mismatch for Tagoe and Garcia..
How do you know it was an arranged fight? I mean tagoe was like 32-0 and who's boxer losses his mind to sell his precious career record for a lose? That was clearly a mismatch, it wasn't arranged, it was cherry picked. People were deceived by Tagoe's record as if he's worthy to beat as an opponent for Garcia. That guy Tagoe might have fought a bunch of mediocre boxers. Obviously, he has no chance on winning fighting toe to toe against a faster and younger Garcia. It wasn't arranged, Tagoe for sure doesn't want to sell his career just to have that loss on his record for that small fight. Tagoe was confident in that said fight as we saw how he behave on their face-off, his face is like saying that he's excited to rip the kid's jaw off and maybe underestimated Garcia as he's much more experienced while Garcia was much younger. It's just that he didn't expect that Garcia's punches could swing that heavily that made him run back and forth in the ring. |
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Maybe Beterbiev travelling to England to defend his 3 belts against their own hero Anthony Yarde is financially big. But I like Artur Beterbiev to pressure and convince Arum/ESPN to let him unify with the last remaining belt held by Dmitry Bivol. Beterbiev better not waste his time against these beltless contenders if he wants to leave a legacy in the Hall of Fame. Or maybe he can fight the beatable WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. A victory would make Beterbiev a 2 division champion and might be enough to enter the Hall of Fame.
Or is Arum (ESPN) scared that his aging champion might lose to a technical fighter like Bivol?
I read that Beterviev will be defending his belt against Yarde. And this could be the 'safest' route for Arthur, or shall we shall Bob Arum. Although he mentioned that he is also interested on a Bivol match to unify, knowing Arum, he might not allow him to do that. And instead, have him face the mandatory challenger first and create more aura of invincibility of Beterviev so that hey can make a lot of money if ever they will decide and have a unification fight with Bivol. That's good if that is the plan because we will still see that fight. Bob sometimes does not want to risk his fighter if he thinks the opponent is also good to beat his fighter, so there's a possibility that the anticipated fight will not happen. Some boxers did not renew did contract with Top Rank and were able to get big fights, fights that they love to happen when they are still under his promotion. |
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OK, so the 2021-2022 season (this thread really needs a subject update, it's 2 years behind now) is in the books. My question is, where are people going now to get their fix of basketball? Are we all just waiting for summer league or the latest trade news? I was thinking maybe I need to get more involved into international basketball, as I prefer that to college. Anyone have any tips for me to help point me in the right direction? Would love to get a year round basketball routine going so I'm not forced to watch baseball or football to get my athletic fix.
I have the same problem. Mostly, I just watch WNBA but there's no thread about it and I doubt there will be a lot forum members who will be participating. Last year was all about updates, trade rumors, draft picks, and other stuff. But the year before that, I think stadus close this thread and waited before the league started to reopen it. Most of the updates though can be covered in the other discussion thread. It will be a long summer.  Thanks for the reminder, as always, this thread will be temporarily locked since the NBA season is over and there's nothing to bet on. Please have the discussion in the main thread, like the upcoming draft pick and other rumors in the NBA. Thanks guys, will open this as preseason starts.
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He is absolutely correct, despite the market being already in bearish mode, the volatility is still present, so we can still trade and make a profit if we are good at predicting the price movement. These kinds of people who are profitable regardless of the market situation are skillful traders, they learn from their experience and they always see an opportunity in any market situation.
Learn from your friend, he knows what he is doing because he is confident he will still succeed.
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They are not a shitty exchange, you just don't get what you are looking for, so the right thing to do is to look for other exchanges that would satisfy your wants and needs. Coinbase is a legit exchange, they have plenty of users and they are regulated, so they are not shitty in general.
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Nope, bitcoin gave me an opportunity to accumulate because I missed accumulating a decent amount during the last bear market. Now, that the bear market has already started, and it could go worse because people are now panicking, this only gives us more opportunity to buy.
All I can say especially to the newbies, study to understand the current market situation, so you will be happy instead of thinking to sell out of FEAR.
FOMO is over, time for the FUD to play.
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Those who are known Bitcoin for a long time, are not disappointed. In most cases, dumping Bitcoin is a big collapse for new investors. It is important to keep in mind that many investors, including institutional investors are now investing in Bitcoin. At the same time lots of media report negatively to attract investors attention to their channel. Ultimately these activities brings a negative impact on the bitcoin price and it can also be pre-plan form the blue whale. So it is better to buy bitcoin right now and hold it for long time, you will definitely get good return.
It's just an ordinary day, bitcoin will dump and pump on its own time, and now that we are witnessing a bear market run, we should understand that we have to go through this process if we want to witness a huge bull run in the years to come. I believe this bear run will not be short, price may bounce back a bit but bear market will stay for awhile, so what should we do now? easy, just buy and hold. |
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The chances are good in Garcia's side if Fortuna chooses to have a toe to toe with him, he may have some advantage because of his experience compared to Garcia but the latter is a knockout specialist and he still remain that way if he will have the right chance, he is just struggling now but I know he can overcome it. It will be fun if indeed that's going to happen in their fight next month.
That's right because if I see things like this it is full of risks for Fortuna and it will be profitable for Garcia. if you look at Garcia's fight he will be even more aggressive if indeed the opponent does something like this and he actually prefers this style of fighting and obviously this is not very good in my opinion even though Fortuna's experience is superior, in this case it will be a risky. But still there is also risk for Garcia, although is it very slim that he will lost in this fight. But we really don't know what's going to happen because one punch might change everything. That's why Garcia should really take care of Fortuna in the early round, maybe 6 rounds or less and defeat him by a knock out. So that we will see if he really is over with his mental illness and he is really back and focus more on his boxing career now, this is like a second wind for him. Seeing Garcia's strength before he stopped for a while maybe this could still happen but on the other hand Fortune wouldn't let this go easy of course. I personally prefer Garcia for now, especially with the confidence he displays, this really makes me quite sure of this fighter but indeed boxing sometimes has other surprises and we also won't rule out the possibility of surprises in this fight. As much as we don't like Garcia's antics outside of the ring, this kid has a special talent. He just need to focus on it and try to sharpen out. Maybe he just need someone to mentor him, like Oscar, but know sure if Ryan will take it though. The Fortuna fight will be a good barometer and and measure if Ryan is back on boxing 100% or not. Because this should be an easy fight for him so we should see him at his best form and knock him out early. That's not appropriate about him to be saying stuff about that, all those things that he said to the boxers ahead of him could backfire at him. Sure he does have a talent and being a knockout artist at his age is a gift, he surely knows as well that's he's not that fully ready and the whole boxing community is still observing his performance while he's trying to get back at his feet. He should prove himself first by winning against Fortuna with an impressive result and win his first title before barking the heavy dogs in the industry. |
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I'm thinking that Inoue would face Butler first before he considers moving to another division. Casimero was not in the picture for now, unfortunately but that's his reality after the incident.
He's going to face and it's going to be an easy fight, I doubt if Casimero will have a chance to fight Inoue, he cannot make the weight it's time for Casimero and for us to move forward for now unless they face each other again in the higher division, Casimero cannot keep up anymore on the division where Inoue is reigning unless there's there are circumstances that will make them face each other so let's see how it's going to be now that Donaire is out of the picture. For the sake of getting another belt? yeah, perhaps Inoue is more willing to fight Butler then before moving up in weight and have the bragging rights of cleaning up the division. Casimero is no longer in the discussion for now. He has to work his way up again, be the number 1 contender or the mandatory and maybe that's the time that Inoue will give him the chance. No boxer will have enough titles they will try to win as many titles as possible, which will define their skill and their legacy, Butler already announced that he wants Inoue next Naoya Inoue's next fight: Paul Butler calls for undisputed title showdownSo in the coming weeks or months, we'll have the news of the two meeting in the ring, this fight will heavily favor Inoue as he is the better fighter than Butler. The truth is I don't know if this is correct, I think Buttler won't be able to do anything, already with the failure that Donaire showed I think he won't have much of a chance against Inoue, now Inoue has had a great level in terms of fighting, what he wants most to do is finish all his fights by knockout, at one point many said that the one who was going to seek the knockout was going to be Donaire, others think that Buttler is weaker than Donaire, in my personal opinion I would not say that Butler is weaker or stronger, every fight it's a different story and you should take advantage of all the fights they can offer. Seems legit, I checked it out and find another source to see if it's a real story and it turns out that Paul Butler was really calling Inoue in the past weeks for the title of an undisputed bantamweight. Paul Butler Desperately Wants To Fight Naoya InoueButler was lying on his own teeth because he quite knew that Inoue have changed into a real monster and even Donaire admit that he cannot react well as he cannot follow Inoue's punches. Butler just wanted to be the first one to call about the fight to somehow make a hype in his name while trying to sell the fight in advance as he also know that their fight is inevitable because he have the WBO belt. Perhaps this is just about the money that Butler can get from this fight. And it's also interesting if one of his demands will be that the fight be held in UK? Inoue traveling to UK and beat their champion, unify the bantamweight division. But we shall see what Butler's promotion are going to do. I think they will rather have him face Casimero first. And if ever he win that, then book a fight with Inoue. I don't think that's the case here, Butler is not in the position to demand that the fight will be held in UK as I know that Inoue's camp wouldn't certainly agree with it because they also wanted to have the fight in Saitama, Japan. Same venue of the GGG-Murata and Inoue-Donaire fight, so maybe they can decide somewhere else where it's neutral for the both of them. Butler's only choice is to call the fight and wait for his defeat because there's really nothing he can do against Inoue, would you guys believe that Butler is capable defeating Inoue for atleast by decision? I think the answer for that is NO. |
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I'm really sad about Celtics to lose the sixth game and the title at the same.  I was favouring them in the final series to reach the championship after a break like 15 years. I didn't see a very solid team effort in this game from them and this was the thing that I was angry with the most. Warriors had so many spaces and punished them for that. I saw Horford and Brown making a really good effort for Celtics here. In the last moments of the third quarter, Horford was really great and fired up the team. Brown was also continuing to bank in really hard shots. But it was really hard to stop Curry and his friends. Congrats to Warriors and their fans! I respect their effort so far a lot.  I was rooting for the Celtics since the playoffs started. I believe in them in reaching the finals and they actually did eventually. When they were in the Finals and steal game 1, I started to gain confidence that they'll gonna win it all this year. Unfortunately, after game 3 they got exposed. Tatum disappeared and the Warriors playing on a high level like they were from the last 3 championship. I feel sorry for Horford, but at least he have experienced the finals in his career. Warriors deserves it, Steph deserves it. We all just begun showing some good faith in Celtics when they suddenly clutched before the regular games has ended, we know they haven't had a good start this season but they showed improvement as time goes by and honestly, they did good considering that this is their first time participating in playoffs and especially Finals where they faced the Warriors. I, for one, also wanted to see some fresh faces winning the title this season but the truth is that doesn't comes easy as there are teams like the Warriors who got the experience needed even though there's more team out there who's also hungry but unfortunately, they don't have what it takes yet. As for the Boston Celtics, their careers are not over yet and the good thing is that they are now an experienced team so better start fresh next season and absorb what happened recently this coming summer to improve more. |
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I'm afraid it is a really tough situation for Celtics now. They are 3-2 behind and this is troubling for them a lot. They didn't play badly actually in the previous game but Warriors still found a way to win this game. They were better in the final quarter once again. Celtics are still struggling to keep up with them in this quarter and they need to find a solution for this. In case they experience this again, they are done. Celtics shouldn't waste this big opportunity to win the title after a long break.
Celtics will play on their own, and this could be the best opportunity for them to stay focused and aim for the win to force game 7. The momentum is with Warriors after winning two consecutive game but Celtics is not out of contention here, they still have the chance. Though, I bet for Warriors to win today but still anything can happen and let’s see if Celtics will play better this time. The series is not over yet as they still have a chance, no matter how small it is because a chance is a chance. The game later will surely be intense and the Celtics need to be unpredictable this time because the Warriors have managed to somehow read their moves in-between games that's why they have successfully won two games straight and also, it's really time to make use of their sizes and not just wait for their attacks as that for their advantage. They definitely have a chance. If they win today then it's game 7 where anything can happen. I want the Warriors to win because I love a good legacy story, but I am sad if today turns out to be the last day of the NBA season, so I won't be upset if they lose. More than anything though, I don't want to see a blowout. A lot of times when in this position a team will get down a little bit and then start hoisting 3 pointers to try and comeback, which leads to them getting blown out. If Golden State gets an early lead and the Celtics give up so I don't even want to watch the second half, I'll be disappointed. Whether or not we see game 7, at least let me not know who is going to win this game when there's 3 minutes left in the 4th quarter. Seems like we can't have a Game 7 this Finals after all because the Warriors closed the series, and as anticipated, they've won at the TD Garden. Not the way we imagined it as we know that the Warriors wanted to celebrate their win at Chase Center where the majority of the crowd are their fans. Before the Finals begun, I've seen some speculations that it will be a 4-2 record at the Warriors favor, so I guess that guess turns out great. About seeing some blowout, it's hard to see that one at the Finals. For sure every game will be intense and neither of the team will give up that early. |
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Anyway, back to the topic, the Warriors should do everything to claim the championship title in Game 6 later. It will be sure as a tough job because the Celtics are also not moving an inch back to have the Warriors their way, so ofcourse they will also do everything and utilize what they're known for to have a Game 7.
I'm hoping for another way around. I want the series to extend to Game 7. Good to see the Finals will end in the final series for much better entertainment for us viewers. Golden State Warriors might finish the series tonight but the Boston Celtics obviously don't want to end their chances for the champion too. Bookies heavily favored the Boston Celtics tonight to win the game. Not a basis that they will win tonight but it means bookies see something for the Celtics why they shouldn't be considered as an underdog tonight. Bostin Celtics will win in Game 6 but the Golden State Warriors will end it on Game 7. Unfortunately, that's not what happened earlier because the Golden State Warriors was really committed to close the series and they've won by 13 points in gap. It was a tough game as the Celtics tried to answer the shots made by the Warriors but they can't handle everything while trying to defend those shots, since the 1st half the Warriors had made it clear that the game will belong to their possession. It would be much more fun and entertaining if they can extend it to Game 7 but the Warriors chose to avoid that situation as they could be at risky situation. Sure it's not fun claiming the title at road but that win certainly relaxed them. |
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They still have faith in Garcia as he's still young and there's still a lot more room for improvement but he got to know that the time is running by so he should definitely make anything possible so that the old Garcia can be revived back, he's a knockout specialist and the people are also wanting to see him defeating boxers in early match or atleast give an entertaining fight.
He should be careful though because just like as you said, he's viewed as an achievement to add in their record.
Indeed! they believe that the guy still has a big shot in this industry, he can bring audience to watch him fighting. They are convinced that with good marketing, Garcia can still make them money. The pressure to win is more on the side of Garcia to prove and to create a good path for him to attract more promoters to offer him more money fights as well with a title fights. The way he will fight in this upcoming one from Fortuna will give him the ticket to build up his resume back to where it should belong. Winning is an easy job for Garcia and we can somehow say that this is already a done job for him, but that's not what Oscar is looking for as that's not what Garcia have known in this league. As I said, Garcia is known to be a knockout specialist and his record can speak for him about that that's why winning is the easy part especially if it's against Tagoe and Fortuna and Oscar is looking an impressive result like getting his foes knockout or a TKO by that way, we can slightly say that he's a bit ready against the heavy names in the industry like Tank Davis and Kambosos Jr. |
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