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I just cleared out the FTC unconfirmed balances from the last of the orphans the other day. If you noticed your unconfirmed balance dropped, this is the reason.
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I have a issue I'm not sure how to resolve, it appears that when the multi port pool switches coins, my miner is hanging. Start it up and its going fine say on FTC, then pool switches to MNC,cgminer shows I am connected but is not getting work? Running 3.2.1
The pool is listed as alive and I am connected, but I don't get the new work.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to get any cgminer 3.x version working, it crashes immediately on both of my rigs so I am still on 2.11.3 which doesn't have any issues switching. Maybe someone else who is running 3.x can help. |
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So FTC has already been 51%ed? Because I saw people complaining about the FTC deposit to BTCE has not been confirmed even after 24 hrs.
(my theory): BTC-E has been trading on the old blockchain all day because they didn't update their FTC client (because nobody told them to), they probably have done a bunch of transactions and are now fucked and trying to figure a way out of it. How can we tell if a site is on the new blockchain yet? Ex. if we want to make a transfer to somewhere, do we have to contact the site owners before we do it? There's no way to tell, as far as I know. |
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So FTC has already been 51%ed? Because I saw people complaining about the FTC deposit to BTCE has not been confirmed even after 24 hrs.
(my theory): BTC-E has been trading on the old blockchain all day because they didn't update their FTC client (because nobody told them to), they probably have done a bunch of transactions and are now fucked and trying to figure a way out of it. |
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Check that you are not double-paying us... FTC shares...
The top 10 miners are listed twice...
micabg 10.1936 13854
micabg 10.1936 13854
kayot 7.2063 9794
kayot 7.2063 9794
sbk1 6.8075 9252
sbk1 6.8075 9252
dwqwog 5.6648 7699
dwqwog 5.6648 7699
rqdxrocket 5.4478 7404
rqdxrocket 5.4478 7404
Just wasn't sure if it was a DB read error... or if it thinks there are twice as many of us. (It was only that table.)
Well that's a new and interesting bug.. FTC is definitely not getting double paid, but I'll look into it when I get a second. Of course, it'll probably be gone by then. There were just several copies of the estimates script running, that's all. I don't know how they got around flock. |
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Check that you are not double-paying us... FTC shares...
The top 10 miners are listed twice...
micabg 10.1936 13854
micabg 10.1936 13854
kayot 7.2063 9794
kayot 7.2063 9794
sbk1 6.8075 9252
sbk1 6.8075 9252
dwqwog 5.6648 7699
dwqwog 5.6648 7699
rqdxrocket 5.4478 7404
rqdxrocket 5.4478 7404
Just wasn't sure if it was a DB read error... or if it thinks there are twice as many of us. (It was only that table.)
Well that's a new and interesting bug.. FTC is definitely not getting double paid, but I'll look into it when I get a second. Of course, it'll probably be gone by then. |
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MNC has the highest potential. The lower earning will ultimately lead to the highest value. Just as the cons paying more rewards will ultimately be lower in value. MNC is in that hump, transition, where many still have those easy coins and are tempted to cash-in... those too are almost gone. That is why it is a great coin to mine. It is easy to mine now, but will be real difficult later, which will force the value to rise fast. Just like bitcoins did, when the difficulty went up, and we had to raise the bar to recoup our losses.
MNC is practically abandoned. I'd go so far as to say that MNC is probably the worst "established" altcoin, i.e. pre-FTC. FTC would be the most promising of the "new crop" of altcoins if its community were anywhere near as big/good as it's touted to be. After the response to the attacks over the past few days by the devs and the "community" (which was pretty much to sit around and watch) I sincerely doubt the community is as strong as claimed. Right now BTC is the only coin doing any actual commerce (aside from the miniscule amount that LTC does). Even LTC, the best altcoin, suffers from lack of interest on the part of the developers, to the point where they now have to ask for donations to continue development. This is because everyone that was formerly on the LTC train left it to create the shitcoin of the day. And here we are, profiting from it all. Overall I think we are the winners here, at least for now. |
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Like I said... We, the GPU market (the majority), will leave BTC and take our value/debt with us... Thus, BTC will drop until the ASICs have an asic-war, while scrypt-coins all rise. (The established ones, with an actual market.)
The value is no longer in trading scrypt for sha256... That is the transition. We don't want BTC anymore, we were pushed out. The top 2000 ASIC holders can have them all, and swim in them, like scrooge McDuck does with his gold. Without us, they have no value. The markets will adopt whatever pays the most, and BTC isn't paying shit. It is taking everything away.
In the end, it is 340,000 GPU miners, vs 2,000 ASIC miners. (The few who were suckered into paying for the big-guys to produce their ASIC factories, are the ones being hurt. They have no chance in hell at either market.)
The same thing will happen to Scrypt though. As more people move to Scrypt, the difficulty will rise. People will quit mining them and will move on to fresh new coins, in a perpetual cycle that ensures every coin will go from nothing -> something -> nothing -> dead. This is a huge issue and I don't think enough thought has been put into how to stop it. The only way to stop it is to add value to the coin by getting merchants to accept it. If there are no merchants accepting a coin then all it is is a circlejerking pump/dump speculation fest. |
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WDC is on the brink of death methinks.. Only 19BTC worth of buy orders on MCXNOW and less than 2BTC on cryptsy.. Are there any other exchanges trading it?
Might not be a bad idea to sell now if you've been holding it.
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Ask BigVern if he can direct some traffic to you. He is online I believe. He is actually rejecting connections now, but they don't have an alternative place to mine. (See if he will kindly add you as an "alternative"... Not hard to show a miner how to setup multiple pools.)
Almost hitting 4 hours... we should have a blast of short-find coins coming... or something is wrong with the difficulty thing. (Might be rejecting actual valid difficulties, thus, causing it to remain lower. I saw something posted about that, somewhere. Not sure if it was a CGminer issue or a wallet/server issue. But someone was saying something about changing some value from x0000000000000000000000ffff000 to x0000fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff or something like that, related to accepting valid shares or valid blocks.)
Unless the moron is still trying to invade the chain, and just failing, but causing enough of a degradation to the submitting of valid blocks. (False transactions? Doing the stalling again... I forget what was done with BTC to fix that, but I think that needs to be done for scrypt too. Since it is obviously more sensitive to that stalling than sha256 is.)
Or is the delay because dwqwog was essentially mining by himself/herself?
P.S. They had a long delay too, with 100x the man-power... Then hit block after block there... within 10-25 min apart.
For about 1.5 hours we only had around 40 MH/sec on FTC, the Multiport has been pointing at it for 2 hours now with expected block time of ~28 minutes. Looks like we just found a block. |
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It's been almost 2 hours on FTC and we haven't found a block.. This is almost 4x the expected amount of time.
If we don't find a block in the next 20 minutes I'm pulling it off again.. can't afford to be wasting hashrate on this.
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Do you mean FTC?
OOps, yes... Sorry, I have been jumping around manually today. I am trying to herd people to MultiCoin... Slowly though, until that other server is up and running. The troll-boxes are good for something! lol. Though, I kindly wait until someone mentions FTC, or one of the other coins here on the pool. Gotta hit the newb section in the forums next. We can handle more miners right now, the new server will only be needed for the 8th coin. |
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Since we did find a confirmed block, I'm going to add FTC back in to the multiport. I'm working from home today which will allow me to watch it closely. If any funny business happens I will remove it again immediately.
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Yea, they are upping the confirms too... Reloading the entire chain, (past the point where the invasion occurred {if backed-up regularly}), should show any "orphaned", that "made it" as being legitimate. (Some will never be legitimate, because part of the bad chain, was real, before it was hijacked.)
If you notice more orphans coming... Try disconnecting, reloading a backup wallet, and reconnect until it gets the correct connection with the valid chain. (Eg, backing-up after this next loading, if you stop the chain before that screwy block... EG, not letting it load all the way up until now, backing-up that partial chain to save time.)
Detection warning...
1 orphan = normal
2 orphans = abnormal
3 orphans = rare (possible invasion)
4 orphans = Full-on-attack, Game on!
Apparently you don't even need 51% to do a 51% attack, when you have the "good luck". Looking like this was done with a simple "stall" of legitimate pools, and also a "hijack" of a double-block-find... One after the other, by stalling the pools blocks with invalid data. When you get bored, you look at the block-chain in detail. lol.
Come swim in the deep-water of the FTC pool... Just don't pee in it, or we will all leave again!
P.S. Announce on the forums, for LTC that your pool is up and working... There is a mini-army looking for good pools right now. Google will find your post for them.
Do you mean FTC? |
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chirp chirp chirp
but yeah, it can be explained by just miners using auto-coin chooser and someone putting XXX BTC to buy (drive up price) enough FTC to push the auto-coin miners over to FTC pools which spikes hash% enough to cause inadvertent problems, not intentional problems
or as you say, the intention was to get attention, not fork the chain?
Yeah I mean this happens with every coin that the auto-coin choosers switch to, amirite? oh wait. |
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So people is saying one FTC pool is on a 300MH network and another pool is in a 1800MH network, and the only official announcement made so far to keep the community informed is... Coinotron's own warning message.
Where's the community when their users need it?
Exactly... There is a new version of FC client out, everyone needs to upgrade. Apparently the devs didn't feel it was important to post it here. And the FC forum is down again. |
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The Feathercoin chain is fixed... FCpool fixed it by defeating the attackers chain. (They are being attacked by the guy now.. lol... Fouled his plans, now he is butthurt! EG, don't join that pool, it is going down every few minutes while that guy attacks them, join this pool when it gets running again.) You got two confirmed blocks... why did you stop? I see others connected... am I just being rejected for some reason... it sucks solo-mining all day.  Our blocks were orphaned again (after being fully confirmed.) I am updating the client now. |
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Also very easy to buy LTC with BTC on Vircurex (vircurex.com)
What do you want all that LTC for?
Maybe he's trying to 51% the network1!!@!@ |
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This coin wins the award for worst artwork. Wow. Just wow. Did you spend a whole minute in MS-Paint ?
Love the off center circles and the pixellation on the edges
Pretty sure fastcoin is still the champ there. |
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