It suggests that if everyone was dirt poor, but equally so, then that situation is preferable to some being dirt-poor and some being "filthy rich."
I never spoked about equal distribution, but showing that equal distribution would eliminate all poors should make clear that a more equal distribution would eliminate povertry also: let's asume that: poor=$1 the most rich man (1 person, on top) gains 10x the income as the poor (which are 10 people) left side: 10 poor people out of 55 right side (would be socialism; once again: I'm not defending socialism): 55 happy people gaining 3.6x above povertry  now imagine the real piramid where the top gain 1000-100.000 times the value of the poor; and than imagine if there was a rule that rich only can gain 20 times as much as the poor. should be clear now that noone would be poor anymore |
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http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-libertarian-paradise-would-be-hell-on-earth-2013-12So the Bitcoin experience gives us a glimpse of Libertarian paradise: What life would be like with as little government interference as possible, in a market free of burdensome laws and taxes.
Unfortunately, that experience looks like a total nightmare. It's characterized by radical instability, chaos, the rise of a boss-class of criminals who assassinate people they don't like, and a mass handover of wealth to a minority even smaller than the 1% that currently lauds it in the United States.
If Bitcoin was a country — Bitcoinistan? — it would be like Somalia.
Somalia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtGkTRnocZIthe reason why Somalia isn't Anarchy/Libertirism (like the "model") is the same as why Cuba isn't socialism: because they are stupid utopias which ignore totaly the nature of humans. this is the point i've tried to make, but anarchists always retort with a "but government is that way too!" |
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Basically, the Bitcoin technology does not address the issue of unequal distribution of wealth. Or does it? If not, what can be done about that?
Wealth will not be equally distributed until intelligence is equally distributed; which unless we start creating generically modified babies that are all equal, will be never. +1 I find it interesting that in all the forum talk, blog posts, etc. I see about people worried about unequal wealth distribution, no one ever, even once, actually clearly states what the fundamental problem with it is (never mind addressing whether the wealth distribution was the cause or result.) you must be from north europe to ask that. I invite you to come here to Brazil where I make you understand very quick Would you be okay with just stating it in a sentence or two? you wouldn't understand it as you have suggestions implanted which wouldn't accept my explanations. rarely people in a privilaged situation understand how it is not to be |
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Basically, the Bitcoin technology does not address the issue of unequal distribution of wealth. Or does it? If not, what can be done about that?
Wealth will not be equally distributed until intelligence is equally distributed; which unless we start creating generically modified babies that are all equal, will be never. +1 I find it interesting that in all the forum talk, blog posts, etc. I see about people worried about unequal wealth distribution, no one ever, even once, actually clearly states what the fundamental problem with it is (never mind addressing whether the wealth distribution was the cause or result.) you must be from north europe to ask that. I invite you to come here to Brazil where I make you understand very quick |
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http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-libertarian-paradise-would-be-hell-on-earth-2013-12So the Bitcoin experience gives us a glimpse of Libertarian paradise: What life would be like with as little government interference as possible, in a market free of burdensome laws and taxes.
Unfortunately, that experience looks like a total nightmare. It's characterized by radical instability, chaos, the rise of a boss-class of criminals who assassinate people they don't like, and a mass handover of wealth to a minority even smaller than the 1% that currently lauds it in the United States.
If Bitcoin was a country — Bitcoinistan? — it would be like Somalia.
Somalia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtGkTRnocZIthe reason why Somalia isn't Anarchy/Libertirism (like the "model") is the same as why Cuba isn't socialism: because they are stupid utopias which ignore totaly the nature of humans. |
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Did you know that when it started, only 1 person owned all the bitcoins? And a whole month later, maybe 3 or 4 people owned all bitcoins? When the US Dollar was started, a group of proably less than a dozen people owned 100% of all US dollars. That's how new currencies start out. so you quote the dollar to convince me that the problem will self solve itself? lol |
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people, once they have power, all generally all the same. nothing will change
:-) The solution then is to not give people power over others. resource-based economy? or just ignoring the fact that money is power? |
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Basically, the Bitcoin technology does not address the issue of unequal distribution of wealth. Or does it? If not, what can be done about that?
btw, I had allready tried to start some brainstorming about this issue. Though my idea was prob a bit of inocent (lack of tec. knowledge), it was meant to start to debate a solution: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355999.0 |
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Basically, the Bitcoin technology does not address the issue of unequal distribution of wealth. Or does it? If not, what can be done about that?
Education. people, once they have power, all generally all the same. nothing will change |
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http://www.ahametals.com/927-people-own-bitcoins/I think you are trapped in idealism
I will respond your whole post another day; just responding the quote: what do you mean? I should give up on the world and surrender to the assholes? never, I'd rather die. I can't ignore millions of people suffering starvation, dieing for a few bucks
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Question for btc-e.com admin do you use http://soft-fx.com ?? i see the MT4 lagging some times and did not allow to place orders, making some trades move outside btc-e web orderbook anyone ever noticed that fxopen has the same BTC/USD pair as BTC-E? but it's not enabled for trading care to explain? |
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Question for btc-e.com admin do you use http://soft-fx.com ?? i see the MT4 lagging some times and did not allow to place orders, making some trades move outside btc-e web orderbook anyone ever noticed that fxopen has the same BTC/USD pair as BTC-E? but it's not enabled for trading |
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for me, support is now working
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still waiting BTC army to free China from dictatorship. hahahahahhaa
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All the tools for Metatrader are designed to work in pips, which doesn't translate well to currencies which move in dollars. Is there any way to place a usable trailing stop with LTC/USD? It takes pips up to 4 digits which is about 10 cents.
google for "trailing stop ea Mt4" there are hundrets. was the first ea i installed, my trailing stop is unlimited |
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when you have a rational society which can solve its problems without resorting to violence, then we can co-exist in peace.
not at this state of human evolution, that's why anarcy is a stupid utopia human mind didn't evolute since we lived in cages. man, how I loved to live in a "hippie world", but it's just impossible. I actualy would love to be anarcist, but i can't, just as much as I can't belive in heaven (wich would I love to be able to believe in, too) |
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so back to a chimpz-like society? power to the most armed? anarchy isn't realy a state, someone takes the power by force
It will be chimp-like, yes, if your society is full of chimps; but if that's true, why would the state, which would also be run by chimps, either by a chimp-king, or a democratically elected minority of chimps, or a majority collection of chimps, be any better? If there's any quality I like the most about anarchism: it fails to lie about the true state of the world. If you believe anarchism, considering the same people you're currently living with, would devolve into might-is-right shit-sling-fest of chimps, then why would this change by putting a crown on one, some, or many of these chimps and calling them divine? because democracy is what worked the best. If you want to live like an animal you are crazy. And i am saying that Anarcy can't exist, a day perhaps, or 2.....until one group killed or defeted all the otheres and makes the rest slaves. I don't think that anarcist have any notion of socioligy. the chimpz are actualy a very good object to study. on a side note: anarcy could work if we were like the bonobos, hahahaahah; but we are much more like the chimpz |
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so back to a chimpz-like society? power to the most armed? anarchy isn't realy a state, someone takes the power by force
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