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1821  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - Refund/Account Change Requests & Complaints on: July 01, 2014, 06:08:33 AM
Hello. My acc meyns is banned. I log in to account and see



I have two stakes. Please help me. Pls change username to newmeyns.

Hash:
d98741d9d2d68bc4ba1f492d39f8ba3a0cf881c1e49a32605d12b617f747a112

and

Hash:
25b6b5429647f68c881a385af2f12561ff57e2e0b26f3bea2077ea5927a2674e

oh wtf. Why are there still people in the list with 2 stakes. Getting really fucking tired.

You need to create a second account for whomever that 2nd stake is for and give me the nick of that account. Then I'll exchange nicks.
Any chance you can send a tx from the original accounts or sign a message ?
1822  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - Open Alpha Has Launched[Updates & Discussion] on: June 30, 2014, 01:02:45 PM
When is next Alpha build with bug fix coming?   & source for alpha already available?

thank you!

No ETA on next build.
Source won't be available for a while.
IMO, Source of NEM must be closed for at least half of year after NEM release! We are all so tired from many clones...
But... may be clones-this is good way to promote(some kind of marketing) real NEM?

I said earlier, and I still maintain that this is the wrong approach. The source should be open, and we will beat the competition by having a superior ecosystem.

no, we do not need clones beafore NEM goes out

Open Source before launch doesn't make much sense. It's also safer for the entire world. Noone should be able to use unfisnished code to make a clone of NEM. Them having network problems might reflect badly on NEM since it' supposedly a clone.
Look at NAS. According to Jean-Luc they used unfinished, not production ready code. Now it has followers that were all hoping to be part of a great coin. Let's spare the people an early crappy NEM Clone like NAS Smiley

+1. Look they plan a clone months before there is a single line of code https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=620518.0. Many take Linux open source development as a model but I don't think Linux development has an equivalent in crypto even in Bitcoin. Mike Hearn just said Bitcoin core development has come to a halt with only Gavin develops something. The difference is that a helper in Linux knowing they are doing for the good of the humanity; the same thing cannot be said for any single coin. People can feel good about helping crypto movement in general but why should they pick a particular coin whether it is bitcoin, litecoin, doge or nem ? So rationally if a developer has an interest in nem technical development but has no allegiance to nem, he will just clone the source and make his own developments and IPO.

On the other hand, clones are not that bad and historically clones can work to advertise the main currency. It is more worrying that a good competitor copy the ideas and implement them in their own system. This 2 gen. crypto market is packed with coins with some legitimate developments: qora, nxt, nxt lite, nfd, exo, noir, cripti, nhz etc. if it is now difficult to see a differentiator between all of them.

Haven't looked closely at all of them but nxtl aka Node has nothing to do with NXT anymore and qory supposedly uses a different POS algo.
1823  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - Open Alpha Has Launched[Updates & Discussion] on: June 30, 2014, 11:26:12 AM
When is next Alpha build with bug fix coming?   & source for alpha already available?

thank you!

No ETA on next build.
Source won't be available for a while.
IMO, Source of NEM must be closed for at least half of year after NEM release! We are all so tired from many clones...
But... may be clones-this is good way to promote(some kind of marketing) real NEM?

I said earlier, and I still maintain that this is the wrong approach. The source should be open, and we will beat the competition by having a superior ecosystem.

no, we do not need clones beafore NEM goes out

Open Source before launch doesn't make much sense. It's also safer for the entire world. Noone should be able to use unfisnished code to make a clone of NEM. Them having network problems might reflect badly on NEM since it' supposedly a clone.
Look at NAS. According to Jean-Luc they used unfinished, not production ready code. Now it has followers that were all hoping to be part of a great coin. Let's spare the people an early crappy NEM Clone like NAS Smiley
1824  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - Open Alpha Has Launched[Updates & Discussion] on: June 30, 2014, 08:58:27 AM
When is next Alpha build with bug fix coming?   & source for alpha already available?

thank you!

No ETA on next build.
Source won't be available for a while.
1825  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Non-Moderated Thread [Updates & Discussion] on: June 30, 2014, 08:42:18 AM
rumor said, the core developer of NEM has left for another new project ,it's that true? i am very worried about my NEM stake. Huh

Where is that from ?
Is it possible you are trying to start it right now ?
1826  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - Open Alpha Has Launched[Updates & Discussion] on: June 30, 2014, 06:48:36 AM
99 designs and problem is solved. It's concerning that a logo is causing this much of an issue.

Goes to show there will be problems with marketing. Could be wrong, but seems to be that all signs are pointing in that direction.

That was the plan all along. Either a contest on 99d or hiring a firm for the entire branding.
The only problem is people make a huge fuzz about it because they don't get that it's interim.

What's concerning to me is where the community seems to be going right now but I could be wrong about that as well...
1827  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - NEMstake Tokens Listed on NXT Asset Exchange on: June 30, 2014, 06:42:45 AM
I send PM to user patmast3r requesting token but dont get reply. Tokens are still distributing?

As I said what feels like 100 times now - I can't answer every single PM. You should just check your account as the asset was issued at least a week ago into your account.

List: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak91SD0veCeddDdmTkdaWV8zbHp2dWlodDVEVUItbXc#gid=14 If it says "Sent" nxt to your request then you should have the asset in your account already.
1828  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NEM Investor's Handout and Updates(NEM closed Alpha has begun) on: June 29, 2014, 09:15:52 AM
Thinking of investing but not quite sure how NEM is different than a NXT clone with superficial changes? Can someone explain why I should buy NEM instead of NXT?

Thanks.

You didn't even read the handout did you ?
1829  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - Refund/Account Change Requests & Complaints on: June 28, 2014, 07:03:59 PM
Hi dev, my account CoinManiac got hacked. Can u please change the btt id to CoinManiac1

This is the link

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=668245.msg7553022#msg7553022

This is the post i reserved my stake for free

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg4681296#msg4681296

How are links to posts any kind of proof that you own the account ?
You  need to give me proof that the account is really yours.

Give me a fullscreen screenshot of you being logged into the account, showing the bann message.


M not able to login it, since the password has been changed by the hacker. I just told the mods to banned my account so that no1 can have access to it. I have trusted member in the btt community who can vouch for me and those ppl have my personal account details and everything.

To prove more, i can send some NXT from the account where i have received my NEMstake. U just provide me any NXT address and i will send some nxt to prove it.

Hope u understand

Make a transaction from the account you were issued the asset to to this one http://www.mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=ac&ac=13254208495541261949 and give me the tx-id.

Transaction id : 11303692108588443973

I hope this proves my ownership

done.
1830  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEM] Logo Community Voting on: June 28, 2014, 03:48:50 PM
5 is way too much like silicon valley coin.
1831  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - NEMstake Tokens Listed on NXT Asset Exchange on: June 28, 2014, 03:47:20 PM

Yes because i didn't know what that pm was supposed to be....forwarded it and kodtycoon couldn't make sense of it either.
You need to give me the tx id for that 1 NXT tx.
PM it to me.



patmast3r, just wanted to thank you for introducing the new PM'd newsletter. Makes it much easier for those of us who dont live on bitcointalk.org to keep up with NEM developments. Many thanks!

You should thank xtester, kodtycoon and everyone else on the marketing team that put it together Smiley
1832  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - NEMstake Tokens Listed on NXT Asset Exchange on: June 28, 2014, 01:00:14 PM
Hi; i pm'd you but you said I was not on the list; i registered that account for nem and i see my nick on the list + i send you 1nxt already; and you are not answering my pm  Smiley

cheers guys and good luck to the nem team

Yes because i didn't know what that pm was supposed to be....forwarded it and kodtycoon couldn't make sense of it either.
You need to give me the tx id for that 1 NXT tx.
PM it to me.
1833  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - Open Alpha Has Launched[Updates & Discussion] on: June 28, 2014, 09:14:06 AM
As of now. This is an alpha. POI is the first innovation. There's also the node reputationsystem that uses Eigentrust++.
Imho the client is nothing like NXTs but that's probably subjective.

There is no proof that POI is vulnderable to a sybill attack. It has been brought up several times but that's just because there is no whitepaper on POI yet so people don't know how it works and are making assumptions.

There is no proof, correct. But you can't seriously expect attackers to try any attack until NEM is on the real blockchain with real money involved. Until NEM is on the real blockchain, we can't know for sure if it's vulnerable or not. The longer it is on the real blockchain, the more trust it gains among users and the more people invest.

I asked here how long NXT should run before it's considered as secure as Bitcoin. I hardly got any replies. Personally, I give it 1 year. 1 year on a real blockchain ensures the most obvious flaws have been taken care of.

I'd go so far as to say no coin can ever be considere 100% secure. Shit just happens. Maybe a vuln becomes possible through technological advance...we can never know.
1834  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - Open Alpha Has Launched[Updates & Discussion] on: June 28, 2014, 08:27:17 AM
I don't know was that really good decision but NEMtoken in coinmarketcap, price seems decline step by step and alpha have not covienced markets :/

Any real Innovations or just similar client with NXT?

For an alpha software with limited functions running on a test net, and PoI not yet proven to be reliable, the price of NEM is too high as it is, so some price correction would be normal, perhaps even a significant one. After all, most people have already bought, those who believe in PoS, but the PoW crowd is hard to convince to invest into anything but PoW.

The only real innovation which has yet to prove it's not susceptible to Sybil attack is PoI. Other than that, perhaps a couple minor improvements in interface over NXT, which NXT can easily copy.

As of now. This is an alpha. POI is the first innovation. There's also the node reputationsystem that uses Eigentrust++.
Imho the client is nothing like NXTs but that's probably subjective.

There is no proof that POI is vulnderable to a sybill attack. It has been brought up several times but that's just because there is no whitepaper on POI yet so people don't know how it works and are making assumptions.
1835  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - Refund/Account Change Requests & Complaints on: June 28, 2014, 08:22:10 AM
Hi dev, my account CoinManiac got hacked. Can u please change the btt id to CoinManiac1

This is the link

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=668245.msg7553022#msg7553022

This is the post i reserved my stake for free

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg4681296#msg4681296

How are links to posts any kind of proof that you own the account ?
You  need to give me proof that the account is really yours.

Give me a fullscreen screenshot of you being logged into the account, showing the bann message.


M not able to login it, since the password has been changed by the hacker. I just told the mods to banned my account so that no1 can have access to it. I have trusted member in the btt community who can vouch for me and those ppl have my personal account details and everything.

To prove more, i can send some NXT from the account where i have received my NEMstake. U just provide me any NXT address and i will send some nxt to prove it.

Hope u understand

Make a transaction from the account you were issued the asset to to this one http://www.mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=ac&ac=13254208495541261949 and give me the tx-id.
1836  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - Open Alpha Has Launched[Updates & Discussion] on: June 28, 2014, 04:29:19 AM
I have a feature request.
When sending NEM, can the account balance of the receive account be displayed?
Or maybe a warning that account you are sending to has a zero balance?
It might help verify that the address you entered is correct.

Should be possible but remember that this isn't NXT. Addresses are a) more recognizable and b) afaik validated.
Of course you could still send to a wrong address but it should be less of a problem imho.
1837  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - Open Alpha Has Launched[Updates & Discussion] on: June 28, 2014, 04:13:26 AM
Hello all!  I decided to call us the community to perform a community LOGO voting.  Which logo do YOU like the most?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=668434.0

Who decided on the five logos to choose from? You?

Could you be constructive? I think these choices are representatives and feel free to propose an addition.

I want to ask the very same question as cryptocoin12. There are like 10 logos around - why did you choose those ?

There will be an official vote but it will include ALL logos except the ones that have been removed because of following reason:

- flat out stolen
- no effort what so ever i.e looked like a 3 yr old made them in mspaint
- didn't represent NEM at all.

Enjoy the alpha people. Give feedback !
That'd be constructive.

I also like the logo with the cube but how does it represent NEM other then spelling it? What does the cube have to do with a new economy ?

Has anyone even read the explanation of the logo that everyone seems to hate  or did all of you just go on to bash it ?
I'd very much like to have a logo that means something. That would imho stand out more than something that just looks neat.

I'd like a symbol not just a logo.

In the end the community will decide but think about what i said Smiley
1838  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - Refund/Account Change Requests & Complaints on: June 28, 2014, 04:05:01 AM
Hi dev, my account CoinManiac got hacked. Can u please change the btt id to CoinManiac1

This is the link

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=668245.msg7553022#msg7553022

This is the post i reserved my stake for free

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg4681296#msg4681296

How are links to posts any kind of proof that you own the account ?
You  need to give me proof that the account is really yours.

Give me a fullscreen screenshot of you being logged into the account, showing the bann message.
1839  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - Open Alpha Has Launched[Updates & Discussion] on: June 27, 2014, 12:39:44 PM
sorry guys, but we live in extreme period of social cynism, no one really cares for meaning, this is postmodern age, meaningless is more interesting.
Im trying to say that logo should reflect todays trend in demand, not romantic ideals. Sadly, those are out of fashion.

Meaningless is more interesting ?
Are you listening to yourself ?
1840  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is PoS dead? on: June 27, 2014, 12:35:30 PM
Is this a serious discussion or trolling ?

Just in case I'll provide my thoughts.

In PoS the rich get richer. That's true and there's no denying that. However in PoW the rich get richer too. The more money you have the more you can put into mining and the more you will earn.

Also in a world where we have to minimize CO2 output as much as possible how can we justify wasting all this engery if we don't have to ?
http://www.coindesk.com/microscope-economic-environmental-costs-bitcoin-mining/

You're actually using the 51% attack as an argument against PoS when bitcoiners have to depend on the mercy of pools ?

PoS is not a perfect solution and is being improved right now with multiple approaches like POSV and POI but it sure as hell is better than PoW.
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