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1821  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading For Minors? on: February 22, 2016, 12:27:03 AM
Eh if minors can buy stuff with real money where you live i don't see why they cant with bitcoin. your friends son's can just lie about his age and nothing would happen.

Well it's all about the lie. What if the plateform learn it? It could be a reason good enough to seize the account!
1822  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: February 22, 2016, 12:15:59 AM
The real reason why atheists hate religion is, the devil has blinded their minds to the truth.

Cool

We don't hate it. We're just not interested in it. We're more interested in things that deal with facts.

No, you hate it. How do we know? You are unwilling to compare the dictionary definition of "religion" to atheism and see that atheism is a religion.

Cool

Jeez, dude! Have it your way. Call it however you want. Still we're not interested in it. That important detail escapes you still.

This doesn't escape me at all. The fact that you would rather live in a science fiction world than in a world of reality doesn't escape me at all.

Cool

Riiiiight. Cause God made cars, computers and everything you use in your house.

Essentially yes. And maybe precisely yes. Cause and effect is in everything, going back to the beginning.

Notice that you are attributing far greater abilities to God than I am. You say that His 14 billion year cause and effect made these things, while I say it was only a little over 6,000 years. You might be able to hit the cue ball and get the sixth ball into the prescribed pocket, but try doing it with more than 10,000,000 balls.

Cool

Still didn't explain why carbon datation isn't reliable.

Funny how you take only what you want?
1823  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2016, 12:14:48 AM


Just something I saw. It would fit perfectly. To the Elliott Wave Pattern.
The 5th wave is the only thing which doesn't fit perfectly. Could have been a bit higher... But still.
I also like how it sold off after we barely touched 3000 CNY.





So huge drop incoming?

Well just oppened a huge short so I agree with you. We gonna see a small dumping in not long.
1824  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 22, 2016, 12:13:06 AM
Hey BADecker, you still never explained why carbon datation was not reliable!

Not only carbon but all and any radioactive datation in fact.
1825  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 22, 2016, 12:12:29 AM

Is the 8 week old baby more complex than 2 weeks old baby?  Answer Yes or No please.

You understand the question, don't you?

... But I will answer it anyway. Yes. ...

Thank you.

You proved yourself wrong.   2 week old baby is less complex than 8 week old baby.
More complexity from less complexity.  There goes your "proof" of God, out to the dumpster.

Your Honour, I rest my case.  Witness is excused.



Nah, we already tried that.

I tried with evolution theory and fusions and simple tree growth but he just says yes then go like it was a no, won't work mate!
1826  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 21, 2016, 11:53:40 AM
...

Entropy means heat/disorder/randomness, not complexity...

Exactly. Entropy means the breaking down of complexity in dispersal, diffusion, and equilibratory action happening on everything in the universe, even on heat energy.

Since entropy is the result of every action, at least to some small extent, nothing more complex can come from something less complex.

That is an ignorant assumption... just because the end result is less complex than right now, does not mean it cannot be more complex during the intermediary stages...

It's like saying that water will always equilibriate to room temperature, but it could never get hot or cold for even a moment... sure, it can... prove it cant


Let me break it down for you...

universe started less complex, became more complex, and ends less complex... its that middle part you keep neglecting

Yeah but he doesn't give a fuck, he doesn't even understand what entropy is. He just links it to complexity whereas it's only a matter of energy and order!
1827  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 21, 2016, 11:52:38 AM

The fact that I don't know everything about entropy doesn't have anything to do with it. Why not? Because nobody but nobody knows everything about entropy. The things that we DO know about entropy show that nothing that is complex comes from something less complex without the help of something that is more complex than both.

Smiley

BADecker, we had this discussion before and I explained in detail why entropy is not the same as complexity, and why what you just wrote is wrong.

Should we have that discussion again, or just link to the relevant thread?




You are so silly. For example, if I point out the sky to you, and then explain that the sky is blue, this doesn't mean that I am the sky, right? In a similar way entropy expresses basics about complexity. But that doesn't mean that entropy is complexity, right?

But go ahead. Knock yourself out (Sean Connery said that in "Medicine Man"... the Knock yourself out, part). Explain some more that entropy isn't complexity if you like.

 Cheesy

Your statement: "nothing that is complex comes from something less complex without the help of something that is more complex" is false.


Do you have an example of things as you say? After all, you can see cause and effect all over the place. Certainly there is complexity all around us. Everything wears out and disperses and dissipates as entropy predicts.

Takes two people to make a child - greater complexity making lesser complexity. People make cars - greater complexity making lesser complexity. What is your example regarding the reverse, lesser complexity making greater complexity?

Cool

How are you measuring the complexity of a child vis a vis the complexity of an adult? How about parents having octuplets -- surely eight babies in one birth are more complex than two adults?


The complexity of conception is greater the child. Why? Because no child comes about without it. Even if we can create a child in the lab and test tube without standard conception, no conception happens without the complexity of the things that cause it to happen.

Cause and effect stand. No cause to make conception happen, no child.

Conception is more complex than the child, because without its complexity, no child would happen.

This is a circular argument. You are in effect saying that the complexity of conception is greater than the complexity of a child because it would only happen if one was more complex than the other.

Copper sulphate solution precipitates copper sulphate crystals. Which is more complex?
Wood burns to create smoke. Which is more complex?



That's what I tried to explain earlier, if you try to say anything logical or scientific, at least respect the first principle and:
DEFINE YOUR TERMS!!!

So wanna talk about complexity? Define it and link it to entropy!
1828  Other / Politics & Society / Re: MUSLIMS ARE NOT TERRORISTS AND TERRORISTS ARE NOT MUSLIMS on: February 21, 2016, 11:50:15 AM
Bah they just don't give a fuck about the truth...

Christianity: 15 milions deaths
Islam: 2Millions.

But they don't give a fuck.
1829  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading For Minors? on: February 21, 2016, 11:48:18 AM
Aren't poloniex or bittrex allowed for minors? Because there is no verification process, etc. I don't think anyone will care anyway if he's a minor.

You gotta provide some documents no? An ID?

no only your name and street up to 2k dollars, so you cna just fill fake info and be good

Ah ok! Well means anyone can do this ^^
1830  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says, crazy shit Christians say on: February 21, 2016, 11:46:52 AM
Is it about laziness?
If atheism is a religion, could laziness be one as well?
BAD Decker - you have the floor. Hit it.

If laziness is a religion then I can become an adept xD

Anyway none of the dumbasses here have ever answered to the original questions. They still never explained why the Earth is flat and square in the Bible...

Or why God thinks the sky is blue because it is made of water... (Genesis chapter 1, day 2)

Ahah, didn't know that. It's a good way to end any logical discussion xD

"God separated the waters above (sky) the firmament (land), from the waters below (oceans) the firmament"

From what are made clouds Roll Eyes ? Also, there is some water in every bit of air, so I don't think that this statement is false (you see, I don't come and just say : "that's in the Bible so that's true !" Wink).

So he made the space from water? Damn it's a shame space is empty nah? ^^

Why do you say that space is empty ? Also, why do you just mention the space. We're talking about the Earth's sky, everything what is above the land and under the ozone.

Because God calls the waters of the sky, "heaven"... ... that's not air, that's a bit higher up, right?...

Actually, Where is heaven?  We've looked up... it's not there... we searched the entire universe and cant seem to find this heaven anywhere...

In the early days of Christianity, heaven simply meant the sky... but... heaven is definitely not in the sky... its not floating on clouds, etc

Damn, why couldn't it be above the clouds above the square flat earth? :3
1831  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum Pump & Dump Scam on: February 21, 2016, 11:45:18 AM
As a newbie to the crypto markets, I do wonder if anyone has a real grasp of what is happening!  

People with a lot of experience shout buy whilst equally experienced others shout scam, sell.  

It is very hard to make a choice that is well informed and there must be a lot of people acting purely on gut instinct or greed or whatever else.

ETH has potential for sure, but then it has a very good marketing campaign too.

Someone pass me a crystal ball please!



What's sure is that noobs have no clue ^^

But yeah it's rather easy to understand what happened. Eth market cap was triple in something like two hours, it means huge whales came in, made lots of noise around it (spamming on reddit and here) so more people came and price rised for days, then the big whales took their profit. It's called a pump and dump.

Thank you!

I get that pump and dump thing and I can see why they do it etc. 

So as an experienced crypto person, how do you read the clues that this is a temporary pump and dump and not the start of ETH world domination?

Easy, nothing that goes up fast will stay stable. Nothing ever. Eth had something like 250% growth in two days. It's to much you know it'll go back down Wink

The Ethereum price is consolidating at the moment. If it stays around 0.005-0.01 for a few months, it is good.

Of course, it doesn't mean the price can't go up, just that 250% growth is not natural ^^
1832  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On on: February 21, 2016, 11:43:28 AM
Ok so regardeless of what it is, what rights are they/it/whatever trying to get?

Just that love between children and adults can be recognized as a normal thing. It's dumb as hell it won't happen never ever
1833  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: February 21, 2016, 11:41:54 AM

It's pollution because it changes the way ecosystem works. That's the definition.
That makes zero sense.

Unscientific, politically biased propaganda.

The carbon cycle is well understood.

No you're stupid. If humans change the concentration of CO2, the carbon cycle changes. That's all.
1834  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: February 21, 2016, 11:38:36 AM
I just think it´s staggering. All life is based on plants and they love CO2. Which is supposed to be a major threat to civilization and probably the future of mankind. I just hope that these world savers don´t decide that the exhalation of CO2 by  humans and animals is such a threat to life that it necessitates mass extermination.

That's not the point...

H2O too is a base of life, but give it too much and it sinks everything...

Nature is a question of Balance.

The point is that idiots think that CO2 is some sort of pollution. They have that from somewhere. Maybe it´s in elementary school curriculum. It´s certainly seen in garbage media and they probably have it from some scientists.

It's pollution because it changes the way ecosystem works. That's the definition.

Trees love CO2



And so on...
Animals love oxygene, so? What does it prove? CO2 takes the place of oxygene so we can say it's bad for animals!
1835  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Homosexuality is caused by being molested on: February 21, 2016, 11:36:02 AM
Funny cause any late reports explains that women codes better than men.

But I'm glad you get such precise statistics! How do you exactly calculate the 95% of work you and your male colleagues produce?

Women code better than men? If that argument is true, then at least in my office I am seeing evidence for the exact opposite. My female colleagues take 3 to 4 times as much time as their male colleagues to complete the same task. Still the company has to employ them, due to the gender diversity rules which are applicable in my country.

What do you code as a insurance salesman? Which programming language you use?

I wonder why i dont believe a single word of an permanent lier.

I work in an insurance company and lots of people are developpers ^^

Since criptix is on my ignore list, I didn't noticed his post. I work in the (property) insurance sector, but that doesn't mean that I am an insurance salesman. Obviously, for people with sub-60 IQ, working in the insurance sector can mean only one thing.

And another thing. I never said I work in an insurance company. I work in an IT organization, which is having a team doing insurance-related work. For people with limited mental comprehension abilities: Insurance sector does not always mean insurance firms.

Gender rules for 25% of women? a bit strange, where are you from?

It is not mandatory. But if the percentage of women in the workforce is above a certain limit, then the organization can qualify for tax breaks and other benefits. The higher the percentage of women, the more the company benefits.

What you say doesn't really add up in my opinion...
1836  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On on: February 21, 2016, 12:58:04 AM
What rights are they trying to get with this movement?

None. It's not even a real movement...

This whole theard is just troll then or what?

More or less. That's an old thing that has neither power nor follower.
It's a bit like a strange secte, not dangerous cause too bizarre and small.

You clearly can't call that a movement!
1837  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Christians hate Atheists? on: February 21, 2016, 12:56:38 AM
Everybody knows the internet is the devil's tool.

Well why do they use it then???

In order to be good you have to be bad first. It's called redemption.

Bah, that's dumb as hell.
1838  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pictures from Russia. NSFW!!! on: February 21, 2016, 12:55:47 AM


I find it beautiful!
The church in the background...
1839  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading For Minors? on: February 21, 2016, 12:54:50 AM
Aren't poloniex or bittrex allowed for minors? Because there is no verification process, etc. I don't think anyone will care anyway if he's a minor.

You gotta provide some documents no? An ID?
1840  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: February 21, 2016, 12:54:13 AM
Does it have to be mentioned again that there is no measurable evidence for religion/God?

yes , there is no god no heaven no saving by jesus.. we are in the real world not in a delusional heaven..

Ok, and yet you ask of community to provide one for you. So what do you want to hear.

Now let me tell you what I want to hear:

Give me PROOF and EVIDENCE that atheism(which you are so eagerly preaching) is ACCURATE and CORRECT. Just ONE proof and i will be the first one to became a true atheist.

Atheism is not a religion, or a claim... it is a rejection of your claim that God exists

Christians made a claim... "God exists, and he is just like is says in this book here"... Atheists read the book, and dispute this claim for lack of foundation/evidence


It's as simple as, "We don't believe you"... what is there to prove?

Atheism is the belief that God doesn't exist, in a sense it means it's some kind of religion I suppose :-/

Which God?

Does not believing in Zeus make you an Atheist, or does it only apply to the Christian's God?

There are literally thousands of "gods" that I do not believe in... I also do not believe in fairies, unicorns, dragons, etc... only the Flying Spaghetti Monster is real

All those definitions are too complicated, fact is here:

God doesn't exist, religion is stupid and dangerous.
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