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1821  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are You Tax Efficient With Your Gambling Habbits? on: October 07, 2023, 09:42:15 AM
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I don`t sure about taxes in online casino. Someone told me that the online casino makes the same as offline - from some sum they reduce your withdrawal for taxes. But i don`t sure that it is so - i haven`t seen it myself.
Gambling in online casino is nice for gambling anywhere. The same time gambling in offline casino gives you very bright emotions. So if i have an opportunity - i try to visit offline casino during vacation.
It seems like there are taxes in online casinos, but we, as gamblers in online casinos, do not pay these taxes unless our country's government knows that we also play online gambling in crypto casinos. But so far, many people can gamble at crypto casinos freely and without paying taxes to their local government. They also don't pay taxes when they can withdraw their winnings to their local bank, but they still pay taxes for other things that are not related to gambling.

I haven't visited offline casinos and only gamble at online crypto casinos. I did visit one of the local fiat-based casinos, but I think I still prefer gambling at a crypto casino using crypto. It gives me the freedom to use the coins instead of having to deposit fiat into my gambling account.
1822  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Possible measures to stop online gambling addiction. on: October 07, 2023, 08:50:23 AM
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Making a new plan or creating new habits is indeed effective in helping encourage someone who is experiencing a gambling addiction problem to stay away from their gambling activities.
But keep in mind that everyone has a different personality, there are some people who find it easy to build a strong intention and drive from themselves to fight their addiction problem, but there are also some people who cannot build the intention and drive to fight their addiction problem.

In my opinion, creating or building new habits to overcome addiction problems must also have support from the people closest to an addict to help build the intention and drive to fight against the addiction problem.
If there is no one to provide support and control to the addict, the addiction problem will certainly arise again if the addict does not have strong intentions and encouragement from himself and those closest to him.
Indeed, everyone has a different personality, and if they want to create new habits, each person will use different methods too. So it will depend on how someone can start building new habits. If he really intends to overcome his gambling addiction problem, he will find what is suitable for him and continue to do it slowly to reduce his gambling addiction. There must be a strong encouragement from within him so that he can continue to carry out his new habit until he gets used to it and can control his mind not to think about gambling.

That is why if people around him are willing to help this gambling addict start a new habit, it will not feel heavy or difficult for the gambling addict. He can start enjoying his new habits with the people closest to him who continue to provide support and encouragement so that he can overcome his gambling addiction. And when he felt helpless because of his gambling addiction, these people would come and embrace him and say he could continue what he had started.
1823  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Provable fairness should be mandated by law! ONLY gamble in provably fair casino on: October 06, 2023, 04:29:11 PM
Perhaps some people will try to prove this proven fairness, but most gamblers will not think about it because their benchmark is to choose a trusted casino with a good reputation, and they can immediately gamble. Even though the casino can cheat, they won't be too serious about it, especially if the game comes from a third party. Casinos know that everything can be proven, and they may welcome people to try to prove the proven fairness. And it will depend on each gambler, but most gamblers won't think too much about it. To avoid scams from casinos, we have to gamble at trusted, proven, fair, and reputable casinos for our good so that we can avoid these scam casinos.
1824  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Signs that indicate you are not addicted to gambling on: October 06, 2023, 04:06:32 PM
It's your concentration in gambling if its highly more than any other things you that is to show that you are gambling addictive, so what I wanted us to understand in gambling is when you seen gambling addictive you will know that this person is addicted in gambling and secondly its very obvious and very clear that to see the sign of someone who likes participating in gambling more than any other things its very simple and easier to see, right now I notice that some people who is addicted in gambling does not know exactly when they are addicted in gambling and when you inform them that they are addicted with gambles they disagree with you, but in summary your concentration in gambling determine if you are addictive or not.
If someone has a gambling addiction, they may not admit it and deny it if someone says they are already addicted to gambling. They don't want to be called gambling addicts even though it is clear that they are already gambling addicts. Yes, someone will not know when they have a gambling addiction because they only know how to gamble. But if they have good self-control from the start, they will not experience gambling addiction because they can prevent it from happening to them. Maybe those who are addicted to gambling need someone else to check whether they have experienced a gambling addiction or whether they are still safe in gambling. But even though they are still safe when gambling, they must remain vigilant and careful because gambling addiction can come at any time.
1825  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: October 06, 2023, 03:24:35 PM
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Thanks for your comment.

First of all, you have told that "gambling is a choice". I agree to that, but that supposed to be kids choice, to gamble, to get into the game, or have only to get fun from and etc. I dont understand why parents choose what their kids must or must not do? Kids life isnt a concentration camp where other decide when and what you do.

Speaking about risk. If we talk about with kids what risks gambling might cause, and if I see that they realise everything we have talked about, then I see no reason for forbidding to gamble or just watch. We have risks everywhere btw. Shouldnt I drink Coca-Cola in front of my kid, because there is risk of getting addicted to sodas and gain diabetes? Of course no. Should I forbit to eat chips and fast food, because "as adults we understand that this food is not good and there is a risk of getting obesity" or "because my kid should eat only healthy food" ? Of course no again.

There is a saying - "Like father, like son". Dont want your kid get addicted into gambling, dont be addicted yourself. Or do whatever you want, but remember that kids are our mirror. But that does not mean to stop doing something. Be smart, know your limits. And let kids get their own experience.
Gambling is a choice. What if we, as adults, took away that option? Surely they (kids) won't see the option (gambling). And they will not join in gambling even with their friends if their friends don't gamble either. But if their parents cannot control their interactions with their friends, they could even learn about gambling from their friends without their parents knowing. This will endanger them because they can easily ask for money from their parents and use it to gamble with their friends. We also have to pay attention to the social factors with friends so that they can go on the right path. Children still choose what they want to do, but they should discuss their choices with their parents. Isn't it strange if children invite their parents to chat about their world? It's just that parents are often busy, so they can't listen to their children's wishes.

Perhaps children will realize everything we have talked about, but they are still children, and their curiosity will grow. There is a saying, "The more we stop children, the more they will want to find out." So we don't forbid them, but we try to give them understanding and insight into the risks that will arise from gambling. Drinking Coca-Cola and eating chips and fast food is different from gambling because it has something to do with health. Some children have weak immune systems and cannot enjoy all of that. My nephew, for example. She is not allowed to eat chips and fast food because she has tonsils and his immune system is not good, so if she eats too much of it, she will get inflammation in her throat. My nephew can't buy chips and fast food yet and has to be accompanied by her father. But back to gambling. The children can ask their father for money and lie easily so they can use it to gamble with their friends.

There are other examples. My younger cousin used to gamble using money with his friends in a traditional game. And when he lost, he went home and asked his father for money to buy snacks. Even though he went back to gambling again with his friends, his father didn't know at all that he was gambling.

Yes, I agree with you that our children should not be addicted to gambling. Don't let us get addicted to gambling. That is why we must continue to exercise good self-control so that we are not tempted by anything related to gambling. We decide when to gamble and when to stop gambling. I really agree with your explanation. Thank you for everything, and forgive me if I explained it wrong.
1826  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: October 06, 2023, 02:57:15 PM
Your post is right, playing gambling will not lead us to wealth, even you may lose many people who are very valuable, because all you think about is winning and curiosity, it is difficult for people who are addicted to gambling to escape. they will continue to borrow money from the closest people, my advice is better not to make gambling your main job, it is very unlikely to get profit.
Gambling addiction is the result that a person will experience if he gambles without having good self-control. And that will also make it difficult for him to stop gambling because he will definitely keep thinking about gambling when he is not doing anything. If that's the case, he already has a gambling addiction but he doesn't realize it and if he doesn't do something else, he could return to gambling and just gamble again. And it is true that don't make gambling your main job because it is difficult to get. Moreover, many people have tried it and most of them failed and lost a lot of money in their experiments. So it is better for them to stop gambling and start looking for a job to make money.
1827  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: October 06, 2023, 02:27:31 PM
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That's what often happens, most of them only see from one side just like you said "there is an opportunity to multiply finances", that's what always haunts their mindset and is also driven by very strong beliefs. Just because there is an opportunity that is not even guaranteed at all, they are so sure and continue to try it even though they have repeatedly found that defeat always dominates. And besides that I see the average victims are those who have poor finances, or that means from the middle to lower class, about honest hope I think it's natural because gambling can give you victory. But what we have to pay attention to is that the percentage of wins is much lower than losses, that means you will lose a lot more than win, that's a fact and I think all gamblers have to admit this statement. Instead of getting a win but what happens is even worse because of the many defeats.

It is quite strange to see the number of people who have such beliefs, as you said they are willing to allocate even a small amount of money just to gamble and have very high hopes that they will be able to bring home the winnings to buy their daily needs, but what happens? Well LOSE again. If you really want real money that means you also have to look for a real job that is really guaranteed results, not instead begging the casino to give victory, for casinos this business is not a place to hand out money for nothing, that's the logic.
That's because they see those opportunities as a way to win and to make money from gambling. Even though this opportunity does not guarantee that they can win, they should realize that if they continue to gamble, they must be able to accept the risk of losing. And if they don't have good finances, they don't need to try gambling even though the opportunities are there and there are already some people who can win from gambling. People's fate will be different, especially if it is gambling. There are people who cannot win no matter how many times they try, but there are people who only gamble a few times and can win some money. It depends on each person's luck and will be different for everyone. This is a fact, so they must realize that gambling is not a way to earn money but rather gambling is entertainment.

If they have often seen several people win from gambling, of course, it is not strange if they also want to try their luck one day. They will try to gamble for a while to see the results. If they win, it is a sign to tempt them, so they keep gambling, and of course, if they don't have strong self-control, they will get deeper into gambling where the opportunity to win will be lost, replaced by more losses.
1828  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will the Gambling Sportybet (Company) Refund the Money? on: October 06, 2023, 01:56:12 PM
I think that's impossible. Gambling should be a game that has been agreed upon. if you lose in gambling it will not be your money back. The problem is how can a 16 year old child be allowed to gamble? At that age, he shouldn't be able to gamble. doesn't this seem illegal? I know how it happened, but I believe this child must accept defeat and lose whatever the reason.
It seemed he was hiding his identity as a student so he could gamble at the casino. If the casino had known from the start, the casino would not have allowed him to gamble, and he would not have been able to gamble at any casino. It was his own fault for gambling, let alone using his school money. And the casino also won't return his money when he has lost all his money. Yes, the child really has to accept his loss and explain to his parents that he has used his school money to gamble.
1829  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A Lady Cried After Losing to Sports Bet. Gambling is Not Your Mate. on: October 06, 2023, 01:23:18 PM
Everyone can gamble but with conditions, they must be able to accept the results. That's why gambling has a wise saying: "only gamble with money you can afford." But it seemed that the woman had gambled beyond her limits so she couldn't bear to see her lose. That is another valuable lesson for us to really pay attention to how many bets we want to place so that if we lose, we won't be too sad because we already know the risks. And for that woman, hopefully she can learn from her mistake to avoid placing a bet if she is not ready for the loss she will receive.
1830  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: This is not Practical on: October 06, 2023, 01:02:04 PM
i also feel like its more of a theoretical thing than practical. but i believe with discipline it can be achieved. where people get it wrong is that how do you estimate or separate the money that you can afford to lose? if you can sincerely answer this question then it will help you to gamble responsibly and not to be addicted.
Discipline or how a person can manage money is very difficult if they are familiar with gambling, unless the person no longer has anything in the world, perhaps there will be changes, although not 100%. from mistakes will be lessons that  will not want to repeat, which I experienced several years ago. Even though I still gamble, I don't have big ambitions to win and I have allocated a certain amount of money. If you can control gambling just for fun, it might be better.
But someone who is used to gambling still has the opportunity to manage his money to prevent the risk of losing a lot of money. Everything can be learned so that the person doesn't have to go through a bad experience. As long as there is a desire to change his bad habits and there are concrete actions he takes, he can do it, especially if he continues to practice it until he gets used to it. When he gets used to it, he will only gamble with the money he can afford and will not go through with it because he has already been in that situation. He no longer wants to have the same experience as before, so he tries to tighten his budget and will not gamble excessively.
1831  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: October 06, 2023, 12:26:23 PM
a friend of mine once experienced slot gambling addiction, even he sold some of his valuable assets just for the sake of playing slots, but fortunately he was able to escape from that addiction thanks to his family, it is true that an addicted person can be helped by the people he loves.
However, help from his loved ones will provide maximum results as he fights to recover for them. That will give him greater enthusiasm to undergo every healing process. And even though there are times when he feels it is hard to live, with the love of the people he loves, he can still survive and get back up when he feels heavy and difficult to get through his days. Experiencing a gambling addiction can be cured as long as there is intention and sincerity on his part so that he can heal well.
1832  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Educate yourself to be a frugal gambler on: October 06, 2023, 12:02:12 PM
Yes, it must be done without pressure. if gambling to get rich is very wrong. here we are just players, even the dealer can be unfair if they want. but if we play for entertainment it will be more interesting. some games such as casino are more challenging. We have to know what the benefits and disadvantages are before going any further.
As players, we should have limits that we cannot violate, especially limits on using money in gambling. Even though we have budgeted a certain amount of money for gambling, that doesn't mean we can use a lot of money for gambling. We must realize that gambling is an interesting entertainment and can forget what we must do. For this reason, we must always be alert when playing gambling, and if we have experienced loss many times, maybe it is time for us to stop gambling before more losses come to us. From there, we can save money so that we can have money to gamble another day, and we also don't force ourselves to gamble after losing several times.
1833  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you gamble till old age or not on: October 06, 2023, 11:36:19 AM
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Yes, that's the fact, there are absolutely no restrictions and regulations regarding how long they have to do this activity, it all depends on themselves how long they want to do it. And I think for gambling problems like this that are clearly there are many high risks there will not make them too long in this gambling activity, because there will definitely be a lot of significant things happening to them including many losses, and that condition is not comfortable at all. Even if you have targeted to stop gambling at the age of 40 and when you have reached that age it does not mean that it is impossible for you to break it, as we know how difficult it is to exercise self-control when gambling even though we have previously planned it and it is not uncommon for them when they reach the time to break the limit.

It depends on the person and how interested they are in gambling, so I don't think it can be measured in terms of time, and only awareness will make you not do it anymore and really think that this is just an activity that is a waste of time and money.
When someone has found pleasure in gambling, it may be difficult for him to stop gambling even though he does not have a gambling addiction because he can control himself when gambling. Apart from that, he only gambles occasionally to prevent himself from getting addicted to gambling. When gambling, he always has a special budget for gambling and will not exceed his limits. So there is a possibility that he will continue to gamble but periodically and will not exceed his limits because he knows the consequences of gambling excessively. That is why someone may continue playing even though he has reached the age target set for him to stop gambling.

But maybe it's best if someone is over 40 or 50 years old, he can stop gambling and look for other activities so that he won't return to gambling. This is to refresh his mind and be able to enjoy his life well without gambling. But it really depends on the person because someone will stop gambling because of their own decision.
1834  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: October 06, 2023, 11:07:36 AM
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Perhaps more skilled gamblers have made it big. Remember, skill and chance must be distinguished. Some say they're skilled, but it's often luck.

Let's discuss the pseudo-problem. Why are these successful gamblers hiding if they own casinos and make large profits? Why not brag about their success? Why gamble if they're skilled? They'd keep benefitting from others.

Everyone should remember that for every gambling success story, there are innumerable losses, addictions, and sorrow. Gamble responsibly and realize that it's more amusement than a surefire road to money.
If they are skilled, it is because they learned it to the point of mastering it well. If it is luck, we can only wait for it to come, and it will not come to everyone. Only certain people can get their luck. Successful gamblers may own their casinos, but they hide their identity as casino owners and enjoy their lives peacefully. There is no point in showing off their success because that will only make them enemies.

And it is true that behind success, there are sad stories experienced by each successful person. And if they can learn from the mistakes he made along his journey to success, he will be a successful person. Successful gamblers also learn from their mistakes to become successful gamblers.
1835  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Referral bonuses are waste of time on: October 06, 2023, 10:29:44 AM
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But it's not a matter of what is the referral from in my opinion, if you do have an amicable friends and you know that you can count on them, they would go for it no matter what, not to mention that if you really want the referral, you would probably even help them fund their gambling accounts a bit that you're not losing when the referral goes through, and if they're your friends and they know you're gambling, I don't think you'll be their friends this long when they finally knew you're gambling.
You could do this to help your friend, especially if it is a close friend of yours who wants to know about the casino. We will do whatever is necessary, especially if they want to join using our referrals. But if you spread the referral link in many places and don't really care about who joins, we won't get many people joining because the link is just distributed randomly. So determine where you want to distribute the referral link so you can focus on promoting it if you want to work through the referral link.
1836  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: October 06, 2023, 09:49:16 AM
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You did not say anything 1)why gambling is bad and you think it is better not to show them it 2)why kid will become gambling addicted if he sees that adult gamble?

About my example with swimming and chewing gum. It was all done to make competition more interesting, to increase desire to win. Why do you think it is bad to do that? In this case, a bet = a reward.
Gambling is bad if they lose control. If we don't show it to them, that's fine too, right? They also don't have to gamble their whole lives, even if it's just once. Gambling is a choice, and if they don't see that choice, they don't need to gamble. I have many friends who have never gambled once in their lives, and their lives are fine. They never even saw adults gambling when they were children, and they did not gamble when they were children. Their life is fine.

Do you want to take the risk of gambling in front of your children, and later, you will see your children also gambling like you? I don't see that happening to my kids.

Now, if you notice some children gamble when they often see adults gambling, they gamble with their friends. This will later become a habit in their relationships and will be carried over until they grow up. If they think gambling is normal, who will be responsible if they become addicted to gambling? It must be his parents or the people around him. If they didn't have to see gambling, no one would be bothered by having to help him cure his gambling addiction.

When pleasure becomes a desire to bet because of the reward factor, they will become even more addicted. If it can benefit them, go ahead. But remember, they will feel challenged to prove they can always win. But if they lose, they will fall into an abyss from which even they will find it difficult to rise.
1837  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you seen gambling advertisements on TV? Opinion. on: October 06, 2023, 09:16:11 AM
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Exactly, you will guide your child so that he does not go astray. We can't really avoid introducing gambling to them now because there are many influencers out there or others promoting it. Others can also be found in add-ons so please always be careful in your actions.
With guidance from their parents, we can direct them not to gamble. We have to be able to explain gambling clearly so that they don't get the wrong information. We can also set the device not to display advertisements that are not suitable for children so that these advertisements do not influence them. And don't let them use their devices for too long because that can make them lazy to do other things. If they are too busy with their devices, they will not care about their surroundings because they are more concerned with their devices and updates from their social media.
1838  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lotteries and possibility vs. probability on: October 05, 2023, 09:50:19 PM
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Budget is always been that crucial.Dont go overboard on making use of the amount which are really that intended for making use on your daily needs or something that do talks about emergency funds.
We know that lottery odds of winning is really that almost close to impossible on which it would really be just that so normal that you should really be only making use of the amount on which you can afford to lose. Never ever make yourself that becoming that too impulsive when it comes to things because if you do make yourself that way too positive towards winning then it would really be creating that kind of desperation on which it would really be just that normal that you would really be spending up more because you do have that kind of mindset or positivity towards lottery that you would really be able to hit up that jackpot.

On the time that you would really be missing out or losing those winning moments then it would really be creating that kind of impulsive feeling. We must really be that still careful
on becoming that addicted even if we do say that betting on lottery or buying tickets is cheap but if the amount used or purchased is already that significant
or something that big then this is an another situation which you should really be minding on.
You are right. Allocating a budget for gambling is necessary so that we don't exceed the limits. This also applies to lottery games, and even though we may have to wait a long time to win the jackpot, the budget allocation is useful so that we can regularly buy lottery tickets. And because the lottery relies on luck, we should consider buying lottery tickets as entertainment and wait for the results. Usually, people who don't expect to win in the near future get lucky because they don't have any burdens and buy the lottery ticket for fun.

Yes, buying lottery tickets can cause gambling addiction for us, so we have to be careful in buying the number of tickets. Don't let us buy large quantities at one time because that will disrupt the budget allocation that we have set for buying lottery tickets. It's better if we really follow the limits we set so that we can buy lottery tickets regularly.
1839  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are You Tax Efficient With Your Gambling Habbits? on: October 05, 2023, 09:29:38 PM
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The idea that the casino pay taxes for me. They remove it from my prize. But it is possible that they have some ways not to pay taxes. Anyway it isn`t my problem - i have a check that i paid it.
I don`t sure how it works in the online casino, but it is possible that it depends on the sum. I try to withdraw small enough sums per time - $100-$150. May be if i withdraw $1000 they can make the same as offline casino.
Correct. The important thing is that you take the check home and enjoy it. Besides, casinos should also pay taxes for the business they run. As for online casinos, I don't know because I never withdrew much money from my winnings. But if someone wants to withdraw a large amount of money, they must go through a check from the online casino before they can process the withdrawal. However, gamble at online casinos is more profitable because there is no need to pay taxes. Besides that, I prefer playing gambling at online casinos because I can play it anywhere.
1840  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Gambling affect your relationship? on: October 05, 2023, 05:06:37 PM
Some people are still young but can think maturely because I have met them several times. They are still under 18, but their thoughts and actions are mature, so people mistakenly think they are over 18. So if they can act maturely and treat everything well, they will not exceed their limits, especially if it is gambling.

Yes, there are, but we very rarely see them and they are not the ones who are great because they are able to act and think maturely even though they are still relatively young. And I say once again they are not the great ones.! However, it is the parents who are great because they are able to provide and develop their children so that they can behave and tthink like that and that is where the role of parents is very necessary to ensure that their children's growth and development goes well.
Indeed, they are not great, but if we compare them with their peers, they are already great because they have more ideas than other friends. And parents indeed teach their children ways to develop their children's understanding and thinking skills. They can teach what their children need and ensure their children's growth and development are good.

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People who are mature enough, especially those who have dependents, namely family, should be able to think more clearly when gambling because if we talk about experience, of course they are already more experienced in the world of gambling because gambling is not something new but has been around for some time. a hundred years ago
If they gamble without responsibility, they will not be able to think about their family because all they want is to chase wins. They should not get involved in gambling because it will not give them daily wins. Those who can think more clearly will try to leave gambling for the sake of their family because it could impact their relationship with their family.

Quote from: maydna
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Of course, every time we gamble, we have to involve our emotions in it because if not, the gambling game we play will feel empty. However, despite this, it is true that we have to control these emotions to prevent big losses in gambling.
It's okay to gamble with emotions involved, but we have to really be able to control those emotions. Most gamblers will lose control of their emotions when they gamble, which will be indicated by whatever results they get. Whether they win or lose, their emotions will increase, and if they lose control, they will become even more eager to win. But there was only more loss.
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