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October 04, 2023, 11:04:33 PM
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I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?

The lower class of people are the ones with average gambling money, those rich guys gamble in high stakes, their win's are always high because they stake with a lot of funds, mean while, a lower class gambler will  stake with meager money with the hope of getting a big win, which sometimes doesn't work as they plan.
A wealthy guy, can play small odd with high stake, and win his money with a little bonus attached, but a lower class guy, will stake a little money with a very big odd, and he will end up losing the bet, because those big odd winning doesn't come easy. I feel they both class of person's have almost equal numbers of people that gamble, the rich wants to get richer, the lower class too wants to get rich as well.

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October 04, 2023, 11:54:08 PM
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Most of the time money is not the problem. It used to be the choice of making money that drives towards gambling. Once started to wager, the win/loss keeps us gambling for the rest of the day. I personally start to wager with few dollars looking for small money. As the prediction doesn't work as we expect, the loss makes you increase the bet value.

The spending difffer based on the financial ability, however going beyond the ability makes it more of a risky thing. In most of the case, the middle class people used to be the sufferer as they risk money that is supposed to be used for their living.

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October 04, 2023, 11:56:12 PM
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I may not have the stats to back this but a very huge percentage of people who gamble are in it to make money. Only very few are doing it for fun. When you go to gambling platforms, you'll see a lot of lower-class people who forever use their last money to gamble (hoping that it could be their lucky day). I've gone to numerous physical gambling stores, but I haven't seen a really rich person there, it's always people who are struggling, wasting, and tossing their money away out of desperation.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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October 04, 2023, 11:57:14 PM
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It is true that gambling can never be a source of income because there is no real guarantee of winning. It should be played as a means of entertainment so that even if there is a loss, it does not affect anything.
Everyone is free to gamble with any purpose, you can gamble for money or for entertainment. But we mustn't gamble with an unrealistic reason. It is okay if we gamble to expect some money but it is just for the bonus only. But it will be a mistake if we gamble for fixed income. There is no way to ensure we always got money from gambling constantly. It is true that there is no guarantee that we always can win in gambling. Even, we tend to lose money in gambling because the chance to win isn't quite high, it is 50:50.

Well, I believe no gambler has no experience in a loss. Although you are very skillful, but it won't work effectively if you play luck-based game such as slots and the like.


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October 05, 2023, 04:04:13 AM
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I may not have the stats to back this but a very huge percentage of people who gamble are in it to make money. Only very few are doing it for fun. When you go to gambling platforms, you'll see a lot of lower-class people who forever use their last money to gamble (hoping that it could be their lucky day). I've gone to numerous physical gambling stores, but I haven't seen a really rich person there, it's always people who are struggling, wasting, and tossing their money away out of desperation.


Absolutely. Only the rich or people with stable income are only engaging in gambling to have fun and as means of entertainment, and then the rest are playing with the hopes to generate an income for they cannot think of other ways to provide for themselves and their families. Well-known casinos here in our country are all occupied only by rich people, and you cannot see any other people below their status. But on the other hand, you can see a lot of less fortunate people in some not well-known casinos or even some hidden areas in the country engaging in gambling activities. That is why you can see a huge difference in both settings, as high-end casinos are filled with fun and laughter, while the other one is filled with hopes and despair. And sometimes, we cannot just tell people that only gamble for fun and not see it as a money-generating factory, as we have different status and conditions in life.



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October 05, 2023, 04:25:02 AM
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I may not have the stats to back this but a very huge percentage of people who gamble are in it to make money. Only very few are doing it for fun. When you go to gambling platforms, you'll see a lot of lower-class people who forever use their last money to gamble (hoping that it could be their lucky day). I've gone to numerous physical gambling stores, but I haven't seen a really rich person there, it's always people who are struggling, wasting, and tossing their money away out of desperation.
You could be right, because it won't be easy to admit that people gamble because they want to make more money so they use it as a reason of fun so it looks more acceptable, but there are indeed people who gamble for fun because when they gamble they do it with friends and become a time to meet and communicate. And rich people also gamble, but of course they do it in more elite places such as cruise ships that provide casinos or other famous gambling places that only rich people can access.
However, if someone is in need of money then gambling to get more money is quite a stupid action because the chance of losing is just as big.

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October 05, 2023, 04:39:10 AM
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I may not have the stats to back this but a very huge percentage of people who gamble are in it to make money. Only very few are doing it for fun. When you go to gambling platforms, you'll see a lot of lower-class people who forever use their last money to gamble (hoping that it could be their lucky day). I've gone to numerous physical gambling stores, but I haven't seen a really rich person there, it's always people who are struggling, wasting, and tossing their money away out of desperation.
You could be right, because it won't be easy to admit that people gamble because they want to make more money so they use it as a reason of fun so it looks more acceptable, but there are indeed people who gamble for fun because when they gamble they do it with friends and become a time to meet and communicate. And rich people also gamble, but of course they do it in more elite places such as cruise ships that provide casinos or other famous gambling places that only rich people can access.
However, if someone is in need of money then gambling to get more money is quite a stupid action because the chance of losing is just as big.

there are lots of people out there in the lower class who have a bad mindset towards how gambling works and they think that gambling can be used as a place to get luck for life and this kind of mindset should not be in their minds because the facts always say there are no gamblers who is really rich except the bookies.
different from rich people, they are free to go wherever they want and gamble wherever they still think its just like a vacation like you said, like gambling on a cruise ship. well, by gambling on these cruise ships rich people consider going on vacation and gambling just for fun they use money they can afford to lose.

this is the difference between lower class people and rich people and I am not here to compare the two but we only look at the negative side of the mindset of both parties and I have to say this that always remember how gambling works that is the way to think healthily.

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October 05, 2023, 03:46:44 PM
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I may not have the stats to back this but a very huge percentage of people who gamble are in it to make money. Only very few are doing it for fun. When you go to gambling platforms, you'll see a lot of lower-class people who forever use their last money to gamble (hoping that it could be their lucky day). I've gone to numerous physical gambling stores, but I haven't seen a really rich person there, it's always people who are struggling, wasting, and tossing their money away out of desperation.
Absolutely. Only the rich or people with stable income are only engaging in gambling to have fun and as means of entertainment, and then the rest are playing with the hopes to generate an income for they cannot think of other ways to provide for themselves and their families. Well-known casinos here in our country are all occupied only by rich people, and you cannot see any other people below their status. But on the other hand, you can see a lot of less fortunate people in some not well-known casinos or even some hidden areas in the country engaging in gambling activities. That is why you can see a huge difference in both settings, as high-end casinos are filled with fun and laughter, while the other one is filled with hopes and despair. And sometimes, we cannot just tell people that only gamble for fun and not see it as a money-generating factory, as we have different status and conditions in life.
So people who don't have money will gamble because they see there is an opportunity to make money from gambling. This makes them continue gambling, and even though they have little money, they still continue because there is hope of winning the game. This is a common occurrence everywhere because people hope to bring home some money so that the money can be used to buy their daily necessities. But they often won't make money from gambling because gambling is not a place to make money. Lower-class people should be able to realize that they will not be able to make money from gambling, so they need to look for better jobs so they can make money.
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October 05, 2023, 04:22:11 PM
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I may not have the stats to back this but a very huge percentage of people who gamble are in it to make money. Only very few are doing it for fun. When you go to gambling platforms, you'll see a lot of lower-class people who forever use their last money to gamble (hoping that it could be their lucky day). I've gone to numerous physical gambling stores, but I haven't seen a really rich person there, it's always people who are struggling, wasting, and tossing their money away out of desperation.
Absolutely. Only the rich or people with stable income are only engaging in gambling to have fun and as means of entertainment, and then the rest are playing with the hopes to generate an income for they cannot think of other ways to provide for themselves and their families. Well-known casinos here in our country are all occupied only by rich people, and you cannot see any other people below their status. But on the other hand, you can see a lot of less fortunate people in some not well-known casinos or even some hidden areas in the country engaging in gambling activities. That is why you can see a huge difference in both settings, as high-end casinos are filled with fun and laughter, while the other one is filled with hopes and despair. And sometimes, we cannot just tell people that only gamble for fun and not see it as a money-generating factory, as we have different status and conditions in life.
So people who don't have money will gamble because they see there is an opportunity to make money from gambling. This makes them continue gambling, and even though they have little money, they still continue because there is hope of winning the game. This is a common occurrence everywhere because people hope to bring home some money so that the money can be used to buy their daily necessities. But they often won't make money from gambling because gambling is not a place to make money. Lower-class people should be able to realize that they will not be able to make money from gambling, so they need to look for better jobs so they can make money.

That's what often happens, most of them only see from one side just like you said "there is an opportunity to multiply finances", that's what always haunts their mindset and is also driven by very strong beliefs. Just because there is an opportunity that is not even guaranteed at all, they are so sure and continue to try it even though they have repeatedly found that defeat always dominates. And besides that I see the average victims are those who have poor finances, or that means from the middle to lower class, about honest hope I think it's natural because gambling can give you victory. But what we have to pay attention to is that the percentage of wins is much lower than losses, that means you will lose a lot more than win, that's a fact and I think all gamblers have to admit this statement. Instead of getting a win but what happens is even worse because of the many defeats.

It is quite strange to see the number of people who have such beliefs, as you said they are willing to allocate even a small amount of money just to gamble and have very high hopes that they will be able to bring home the winnings to buy their daily needs, but what happens? Well LOSE again. If you really want real money that means you also have to look for a real job that is really guaranteed results, not instead begging the casino to give victory, for casinos this business is not a place to hand out money for nothing, that's the logic.

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October 06, 2023, 09:41:23 AM
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I may not have the stats to back this but a very huge percentage of people who gamble are in it to make money. Only very few are doing it for fun. When you go to gambling platforms, you'll see a lot of lower-class people who forever use their last money to gamble (hoping that it could be their lucky day). I've gone to numerous physical gambling stores, but I haven't seen a really rich person there, it's always people who are struggling, wasting, and tossing their money away out of desperation.
To be honest, I dont really understand what they thinks about gambling, gambling was created with the aim of having fun and the possibility of winning is smaller, but they are willing to spend money in vain if they are not in a stable financial condition. of course this will make them even worse and lose hoped if they don't succeed in winning. There are many other things that can more definitely make money, of course not gambling because gambling is fictitious and the profits are uncertain and gambling only relies on luck.

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October 06, 2023, 02:27:31 PM
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That's what often happens, most of them only see from one side just like you said "there is an opportunity to multiply finances", that's what always haunts their mindset and is also driven by very strong beliefs. Just because there is an opportunity that is not even guaranteed at all, they are so sure and continue to try it even though they have repeatedly found that defeat always dominates. And besides that I see the average victims are those who have poor finances, or that means from the middle to lower class, about honest hope I think it's natural because gambling can give you victory. But what we have to pay attention to is that the percentage of wins is much lower than losses, that means you will lose a lot more than win, that's a fact and I think all gamblers have to admit this statement. Instead of getting a win but what happens is even worse because of the many defeats.

It is quite strange to see the number of people who have such beliefs, as you said they are willing to allocate even a small amount of money just to gamble and have very high hopes that they will be able to bring home the winnings to buy their daily needs, but what happens? Well LOSE again. If you really want real money that means you also have to look for a real job that is really guaranteed results, not instead begging the casino to give victory, for casinos this business is not a place to hand out money for nothing, that's the logic.
That's because they see those opportunities as a way to win and to make money from gambling. Even though this opportunity does not guarantee that they can win, they should realize that if they continue to gamble, they must be able to accept the risk of losing. And if they don't have good finances, they don't need to try gambling even though the opportunities are there and there are already some people who can win from gambling. People's fate will be different, especially if it is gambling. There are people who cannot win no matter how many times they try, but there are people who only gamble a few times and can win some money. It depends on each person's luck and will be different for everyone. This is a fact, so they must realize that gambling is not a way to earn money but rather gambling is entertainment.

If they have often seen several people win from gambling, of course, it is not strange if they also want to try their luck one day. They will try to gamble for a while to see the results. If they win, it is a sign to tempt them, so they keep gambling, and of course, if they don't have strong self-control, they will get deeper into gambling where the opportunity to win will be lost, replaced by more losses.
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October 06, 2023, 02:48:05 PM
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I may not have the stats to back this but a very huge percentage of people who gamble are in it to make money. Only very few are doing it for fun. When you go to gambling platforms, you'll see a lot of lower-class people who forever use their last money to gamble (hoping that it could be their lucky day). I've gone to numerous physical gambling stores, but I haven't seen a really rich person there, it's always people who are struggling, wasting, and tossing their money away out of desperation.
To be honest, I dont really understand what they thinks about gambling, gambling was created with the aim of having fun and the possibility of winning is smaller, but they are willing to spend money in vain if they are not in a stable financial condition. of course this will make them even worse and lose hoped if they don't succeed in winning. There are many other things that can more definitely make money, of course not gambling because gambling is fictitious and the profits are uncertain and gambling only relies on luck.

you are right Gambling is made for fun. And I think it's made for rich people. Why should I gamble if I don't have enough money?
Personally, I think gambling is more likely to lose than win. And it's not a way to make money. I don't understand why I would waste money gambling when I don't have money. As a result, we may need to borrow money in the future to cover my personal expenses. However, gambling is only a game. And one should never gamble if one does not have enough extra money. If a person gambles even after he has enough money, he is definitely said to be addicted to gambling. And gambling addiction is very harmful.

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October 06, 2023, 02:52:54 PM
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I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?

The lower class of people are the ones with average gambling money, those rich guys gamble in high stakes, their win's are always high because they stake with a lot of funds, mean while, a lower class gambler will  stake with meager money with the hope of getting a big win, which sometimes doesn't work as they plan.
A wealthy guy, can play small odd with high stake, and win his money with a little bonus attached, but a lower class guy, will stake a little money with a very big odd, and he will end up losing the bet, because those big odd winning doesn't come easy. I feel they both class of person's have almost equal numbers of people that gamble, the rich wants to get richer, the lower class too wants to get rich as well.
Unfortunately, majority of gamblers belong to the lower class and see gambling as a way out of their financial. This is the very reason many people fail in gambling. It is practically easier for the rich to make money from gambling than the poor because both treat gambling differently.

While a poor person will want to use small amount to accumulate big odds to be able to win huge, the rich use big amount to play small odds and increase their money in just few multiples.

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October 06, 2023, 02:57:48 PM
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this is the difference between lower class people and rich people and I am not here to compare the two but we only look at the negative side of the mindset of both parties and I have to say this that always remember how gambling works that is the way to think healthily.
Yes, it is true that the mindset of the two is very different, sometimes people from a lower middle class economy always think of gambling as a source of income and a steady income, but in fact they actually become poorer after gambling, which is different from people from an upper middle class economy or can It is said that rich people may focus more on gambling for entertainment and leisure.

But sometimes there are also rich people who gamble to multiply their wealth in gambling and in the end they go bankrupt after putting a lot of money at stake in the hope of winning more money so they can become even richer. The point is that all humans are the same, whether they are poor or rich. will never be free from greed in gambling, everything is the same even though sometimes there are many differences in their mindset.

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October 06, 2023, 04:51:50 PM
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That's what often happens, most of them only see from one side just like you said "there is an opportunity to multiply finances", that's what always haunts their mindset and is also driven by very strong beliefs. Just because there is an opportunity that is not even guaranteed at all, they are so sure and continue to try it even though they have repeatedly found that defeat always dominates. And besides that I see the average victims are those who have poor finances, or that means from the middle to lower class, about honest hope I think it's natural because gambling can give you victory. But what we have to pay attention to is that the percentage of wins is much lower than losses, that means you will lose a lot more than win, that's a fact and I think all gamblers have to admit this statement. Instead of getting a win but what happens is even worse because of the many defeats.

It is quite strange to see the number of people who have such beliefs, as you said they are willing to allocate even a small amount of money just to gamble and have very high hopes that they will be able to bring home the winnings to buy their daily needs, but what happens? Well LOSE again. If you really want real money that means you also have to look for a real job that is really guaranteed results, not instead begging the casino to give victory, for casinos this business is not a place to hand out money for nothing, that's the logic.
That's because they see those opportunities as a way to win and to make money from gambling. Even though this opportunity does not guarantee that they can win, they should realize that if they continue to gamble, they must be able to accept the risk of losing. And if they don't have good finances, they don't need to try gambling even though the opportunities are there and there are already some people who can win from gambling. People's fate will be different, especially if it is gambling. There are people who cannot win no matter how many times they try, but there are people who only gamble a few times and can win some money. It depends on each person's luck and will be different for everyone. This is a fact, so they must realize that gambling is not a way to earn money but rather gambling is entertainment.

If they have often seen several people win from gambling, of course, it is not strange if they also want to try their luck one day. They will try to gamble for a while to see the results. If they win, it is a sign to tempt them, so they keep gambling, and of course, if they don't have strong self-control, they will get deeper into gambling where the opportunity to win will be lost, replaced by more losses.

Yes, the problem is that "they misinterpret what the opportunity means", especially in gambling. They are too sure of the opportunities that are actually a trap for them even though there is no guarantee that they can trust anything, in fact they are only too sure of the instincts and feelings that are in their own minds, even though it may only be limited to their feelings. Therefore, it is clear that something that they consider as an opportunity has never succeeded despite how many times they have tried it but the final result is always a dominating defeat. It should be like that, brands especially those whose finances are not good need to think with their logic that there is no certain victory, let alone consistent it is impossible in gambling. Yes, most of those who come and end up trapped in addiction because initially they see other people's wins which they think are big, it's true that everyone has different fate and luck, maybe they only see when other people are lucky and don't know how many defeats have been suffered by the people they see. As you said, no matter how much they try, if they are unlucky, they will lose, and on the contrary, those who just came can immediately get a victory without sacrifice.

So it is clear that everyone has their own luck and absolutely no one knows when that time will come, so don't chase too much, anyway if you are lucky you will be able to get the victory even with just one try. In my opinion so the point is not to be tempted by anything that is there including the victory of others, just ignore it because as discussed earlier everyone's luck is different, especially in terms of time, so it will only be useless and a waste of money if you continue to pursue it.

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October 06, 2023, 07:51:25 PM
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To be honest, I dont really understand what they thinks about gambling, gambling was created with the aim of having fun and the possibility of winning is smaller, but they are willing to spend money in vain if they are not in a stable financial condition. of course this will make them even worse and lose hoped if they don't succeed in winning. There are many other things that can more definitely make money, of course not gambling because gambling is fictitious and the profits are uncertain and gambling only relies on luck.

The gambler won’t gamble,if they don’t have any money to gamble.Only the gambling addict will do the gambling at the all situation.If the gambling addict win the game,the next move by the addict will be continuous game till the money on their wallet become zero dollars.If the gambling addict doesn’t have the money in their bank,they ask the loan from their loan by saying various reason.The first reason of the loan guy will be ask loan by showing their family weakness.So the loan giving person help him like he help him in the emergency,but he use the money for the gambling only.
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October 07, 2023, 01:52:20 PM
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Yes, the problem is that "they misinterpret what the opportunity means", especially in gambling. They are too sure of the opportunities that are actually a trap for them even though there is no guarantee that they can trust anything, in fact they are only too sure of the instincts and feelings that are in their own minds, even though it may only be limited to their feelings. Therefore, it is clear that something that they consider as an opportunity has never succeeded despite how many times they have tried it but the final result is always a dominating defeat. It should be like that, brands especially those whose finances are not good need to think with their logic that there is no certain victory, let alone consistent it is impossible in gambling. Yes, most of those who come and end up trapped in addiction because initially they see other people's wins which they think are big, it's true that everyone has different fate and luck, maybe they only see when other people are lucky and don't know how many defeats have been suffered by the people they see. As you said, no matter how much they try, if they are unlucky, they will lose, and on the contrary, those who just came can immediately get a victory without sacrifice.

So it is clear that everyone has their own luck and absolutely no one knows when that time will come, so don't chase too much, anyway if you are lucky you will be able to get the victory even with just one try. In my opinion so the point is not to be tempted by anything that is there including the victory of others, just ignore it because as discussed earlier everyone's luck is different, especially in terms of time, so it will only be useless and a waste of money if you continue to pursue it.
They should be able to realize that this opportunity may not necessarily give them a win, especially for those who have been gambling for a long time so that they don't gamble for too long. This opportunity tempts people who do not have good self-control, so that they want to continue gambling and try to win. In the end, they will develop a gambling addiction, and their money will become less and less, but that doesn't make them realize what their mistake is.

And because each has his own luck, we cannot force ourselves to pursue victory because if we don't have that luck, we will never be able to win. So it's useless if we continue gambling if we have lost many times, even though there is still a possibility that we can win in the next few rounds. But it remains a mystery, so we don't need to try it on that day because we still have lots of time to gamble, and maybe on another day, we will get lucky.
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I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?

The lower class of people are the ones with average gambling money, those rich guys gamble in high stakes, their win's are always high because they stake with a lot of funds, mean while, a lower class gambler will  stake with meager money with the hope of getting a big win, which sometimes doesn't work as they plan.
A wealthy guy, can play small odd with high stake, and win his money with a little bonus attached, but a lower class guy, will stake a little money with a very big odd, and he will end up losing the bet, because those big odd winning doesn't come easy. I feel they both class of person's have almost equal numbers of people that gamble, the rich wants to get richer, the lower class too wants to get rich as well.
But what always happens today especially for people at the bottom is that even though their money is not too much but the conditions that often occur are that they always force to include more money than what they have and this is a fact that cannot be denied because most of those who have problems in finance always force themselves to gamble in the hope of getting more benefits and this becomes one of the problems that can never be resolved for them because the purpose of gambling itself is different from what most gamblers do in general.
In fact, what happens now is that people who are at the bottom always try to gamble with money that they cannot even control which becomes one of the problems for them.

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October 07, 2023, 03:46:33 PM
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I don't know but I feel like it's counterproductive to your gambling habits because gambling addiction needs a constant supply of money and I think that people that are gambling pretty much have a good hoard of cash. Maybe I am wrong as loansharking is a thing and we all know how easily it is to borrow money from these vultures or that people who gamble really don't have enough money and they see gambling as an easy way to make more money by trying their luck.
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October 07, 2023, 04:00:58 PM
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No. gambling about fun is better than having to make this an income. but I don't blame you for that, in fact in some conditions I have to admit that I was helped by gambling money with small wins. what I see with them is that they gamble by relying on their income from gambling. it will make us addicted, usually that's what I see.

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