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1861  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Long term investing - Spot, Margin or Derivatives? on: October 02, 2022, 01:15:51 PM
Spot is the most productive side for the long long term investment as Low risk and also highly recommend for maximum profits. I know that Future trade is more attractive in term of the profits but as there is high risk for the investment according to the market sentiments in long term there is no place for the Future trade. Spot is a best option where surety of profits can be managed.

This is true in crypto trading because of the liquidity and the risk involved. Using a trading tool that has interest and liquidation risk on volatile market is really not efficient in long term because the price volatility is already enough for profit multiplier in crypto rather than risk everything on one single price swing if the market moves in opposite direction of your position.

Spot is really the best for long term not efficiently but safely.
1862  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Bitstarz is a scam casino (full proof of their actions) on: October 02, 2022, 11:20:28 AM
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Yesterday is as my first day with Bitstarz I ask if I could use VPN they said yes.
If you are in Colombia, what are you using a VPN for?
I watched yoiurvideo evidence carefully that you sent them the details as an israeli. Of course it's your fault they are looking for.
Despite the support saying VPN is tolerated, it's not explicitly mentioned on the T&C page which then they can easily refute the claim that they ever allowed VPNs somewhere. In the end they will check your KYC.


Colombia mobile data restrict some casinos sites. it orks only on home-wifi.
they allow vpn I asked before I play and they say yes. If you ask them they no in chat they reply yes too they do anything to make you play.


I provided KYC fully this hy they allowed me to withdra my  deposit.  All proof show that I am in colombia and tourist here.



I don’t see on the video that they allow the use of VPN or approved your request as Israeli in Colombia. Maybe this conversation is on your email and providing there official response that giving you approval will be a good evidence to your case. I understand that you want to become to play safe but sometimes scammy use this against the user itself once they won in there casino since there ToS will protect them to justify there action towards user like you that citizen of restricted country.

Bitstarz has a bad reputation here in the forum. I doubt that they will your concern on this forum.
1863  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: [List] Exchangeable Bounty Campaign on: October 01, 2022, 05:35:31 PM
🚧 [CFNP] Moobet.io Signature Campaign______$50/week____ROUND 5_____[w/ESCROW]

Close for new participants now but it will have an open position next week Wednesday since there is some user that got accepted on other signature campaign. $Mbet token is already listed on Bitmart and Bitforex which satisfy the condition of this thread requirements.


Quote from: julerz12
All 40 slots have now been filled

Thank you all for your interest in participating in this signature campaign.

Those who did not get accepted may try again next week, Wednesday UTC.
1864  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: regulating cryptocurrency on: October 01, 2022, 05:00:08 PM
but now many countries have regulated cryptocurrencies. have even made laws to regulate it. such as the application of taxes in cryptocurrency transactions on exchanges. but not all countries do this. but what I know is that countries in Southeast Asia like Indonesia have done it. Even in Indonesia, a protection association for cryptocurrency users has been established. and the association works closely with the government and often helps crypto users who have been fooled by scam crypto projects. and they have solved many cases. the association was named "Indonesian Crypto Consumer Association (ICCA)".

After the presence of this association, scam projects were feared and there were no more scam projects popping up in Indonesia.

there will be a third party if the government intervenes in this field, everything will be limited so that crypto will be centralized because someone regulates it.  let the government support this technology and not interfere with the ownership of its users.  Most importantly, the government can only cooperate with local exchanges so that they can monitor illegal activities related to money laundering or other crimes that harm the state.

3rd party is actually not necessary if the country is already fully aware on crypto existence and already prepared a law for it like US and EU. This 3rd party group on other country is just a support group for there government to guide them on crypto especially if the government itself is not fully adapting crypto in there country like most of the SEA country that still watching the other countries on how to handle crypto since they are feared on its volatility.

They just need to regulate exchanges just like what you said if they want to monitor all the transactions of there citizen since CEX is always the end point of the transaction for most of the users since its the common place to exchange crypto to fiat and vice versa.
1865  Economy / Gambling / Re: Odds like 1xbet on: October 01, 2022, 04:34:16 PM
Hi Everyone, I like 1xbet odds and look for same odds website. I know many similar website like melbet, betwinner, megapari but not sure why they blocked my account without any reason. I once got blocked from 1xbet because of winning too much now their child or similar website are also blocking me.

It would be a great help if someone provide me a 1xbet odds betting site or tell me a reason how to avoid my self from blocking those website. I do not break any rules and they do not provide reason for blocking me. I only play tennis and Cricket Matchs.

Thanks Alot

Surely if scammy website blocks you for too much winning then other trusted website will do the same because ypu are not profitable. It's either they will block or reduced your betting limits to the minimum just to exclude you from betting. I don't know exactly what you are doing for having such kind of experience but casino will always finds you as problematic player if younare always having a perfect winning result to ypur betting history.

Duelbits provides a better odds on sportsbook. Maybe you can try this casino as it is known that it can provide good odds.
1866  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Isn't Bitcoin Going Lower? on: October 01, 2022, 04:14:48 PM
Though i never get the exact point you're trying to come up with inbthis approach but i can tell you that bitcoin is incomparable to altcoins or the fiat currency regardless of the denomination, what youbassume to be the prediction or determinant for bitcoin price isn't it at all, what makes bitcoin rise or fall is majorly on its demand and supply and notbthe stock market values of other fiat currencies, they can't determine the fate to bitcoin even at this peak period of USD, it rises and likely to fall over time, bitcoin value is far ahead them in many ways that fiat does not affect or determines it value or rate

I think he is assuming that Bitcoin should be dump in proportion US equity market drawback since there is a lot of loss on the global market since the bear market start yet Bitcoin still holding to this price level which is still high.



This is normal @OP because there is alot of whales that still not selling that holds the majority of Bitcoin holding since the bull run start like Microstrategy and Grayscale. They are the reason why the price is still hih despite the global market is crumbling.
1867  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀MOONBET.IO Community-Owned Crypto Casino 💸 $100 USDT Deposit Bonus on: October 01, 2022, 03:50:04 PM
I don't understand why the deposit bonus of Moonbet getting called fooling gamblers. If the betting requirement is 15x and the gambler feels that it is too high, he can refused the bonus. I find 15x not really high because I have tried as 25x, 30x and as high as 40x on some casinos. Criticisms are normal let alone in a new casino like Moonbet but it rather be constructive. No need to be too harsh. Moonbet is turning to web 3 as well even if the crypto markets are not doing so well.

Agreed. It's only look like that to the players that doesn't read the top of the bonus before playing. Most of the casino has a wagering requirements for there deposit bonus. They just varies on the number of wagering requirements. I think the user who made such comment main point was wagering requirements is not disclosed on the promotional title and you can only see it when you read the ToS which is most of the newbie players common mistake when participating the bonus.
1868  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀MOONBET.IO Community-Owned Crypto Casino 💸 $100 USDT Deposit Bonus on: September 30, 2022, 04:17:15 PM
moonbet is now holding their signature campaign again for the 5th round, that means moonbet still cares and continues to make promotional efforts to get more users, we have to respect this even though it's not yet popular enough
That's a way to raise the demand from the market, there are so many popular sites in this forum that competing between one to the each other. Moonbet as a newcomer was trying to make it happen to be one of best site in this forum.
That's a common thing if developers wanna attract more players from the old site to try the new sites that already developed by them. As long as moonbet can give good service and it may attract some.
It needs a very long time for moonbet to be the same like some big sites in here.

In terms of online casino sites, Moonbet is a newcomer that runs smoothly. Taking care of fairness and opportunity in the crypto and gaming world is their top priority! There are tons of fun games and exciting giveaways every time you visit! The user experience has been quite satisfactory for me after summarizing it. In its early stages, they're doing well, and this platform has enormous potential.
A marketing campaign raised the demand for Moonbet's platform, and the team worked hard to establish themselves as one of the most popular casino sites in this forum.
If they remain honest throughout the process, there will be time once they get the attention they seek.
I hope so and honest is a key. There are bunch of gamblers are always looking for a trusted place to play. They have been experiencing with so many scam tokens. It seems like this potentially to be another place to play. The only problem is token has small daily volume. the price swing is too big. I meant the team must also focus not only in the platform but building the volume to attract the major exchange site to listing this token was also a good choice too.
I can understand if this is a new exchange sites that is starting its journey in the crypto.

$MBET token has a decent volume if you will check Bitmart and Bitforex. There coinmarketcap and coingecko list of exchange is not updated which is why the trading volume recorded there was low but in reality it was decent if you will check personally in the CEX. It was already being point out many times to make an update on cmc and cg but they are still not fixed yet. This is important to attract more investors purchased there tokens because no one will buy there token once they check on cmc that the trading volume is very low.
1869  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Casino & Sportsbook | VIP | on: September 30, 2022, 03:15:12 PM

At Duelbits, you will have very friendly customer support that is fast and responsible. They are actually care about users that is reflected by quality of customer support. It's too long time since the last time I saw complaints about customer support from Duelbits.

Anyway, if any case is missing, just bring them here, their representative will bring it back to the team for checking and support.


The livechat is fast in responding but they can't answer all the questions and than it can take quite a while before you get a reply back. The representative is not really active on this forum; his last login is from 09/09. If you have a big issue and livechat can't help than you can always contact Hhampuz, he replies really fast and has a good connection with them.
Yes the live support can answer some of your questions through bot and then someone is assigned to resolve your issue but they also don't have knowledge about some cases and ask for some time like 1-2 days but I would say contact @Hhampuz if the team is not responding and there's big withdrawal issue otherwise you can wait a little bit and issue will be solved.

Live support can’t handle security issue on the account. This kind of problem usually resolved via  email. Contacting @Hhampuz should be the last resort of forum user since that is not his job and he is just doing it since he was kind to help us here. But user here should remember to contact necessary department about the to resolved it since Hhampuz will just ping them but still the assigned department will do the job to solve the issue.

Let’s not give burden to Hhampuz on job that he is not being paid. He is a campaign manager and not a support.
1870  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Cryptocurrency information surface collection on: September 30, 2022, 01:53:38 PM
I would like to look for crypto currency information side of the news website, this will be helpful for me as a technical indicator trader, I hope you can inform

Cryptopanic.com is the popular news aggregator in my country. It’s a collection of crypto new from different media outlet. It has a feature that let all the member discuss and vote whether the news is bullish or not so it can help you to decide on what your stand on the news. The website provides a realtime update on all the news coming from there supported media outlet.
1871  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BetFury.io|Trade & Share 270 000 BFG|🚀Stake & Earn $BFG on BabySwap on: September 29, 2022, 03:01:21 PM
We are responsible for the fact that people may have problems with the game. That's why we have a self-exclusion tool https://betfury.io/responsible-gambling

To my knowledge self-exclusion is a requirement to have a gaming licence in the first place so it's not really because of your "responsibility" but because if you want to stay operational. Every legit casino has this so i guess this just means you are legit enough.

Not trying to insult here and i like your casino, i am just annoyed when businesses are taking credit for something that's required anyway.



Yes, Self Exclusion is part of Responsible Gaming requirements which the License required to all casino who wish to apply for License. In a sense they are really the who’s responsible on it since they are the one who imposed it on there ToS to comply license requirements.

They can say that they meet all the requirements before they apply for license which technically they add first this self exclusion rules without the command of Curacao license. There’s nothing wrong on Betfury statement. Your point of view just make you think that they are taking credits while they are the one who really introduced it on there casino.
1872  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Don’t Always Flaunt Your Wealth And Wallet Online on: September 29, 2022, 01:51:49 PM
This is some worst case scenario for being less private on our financial status. But of the people that I saw this kind of show off post on social are those influencers and people involved networking that using there wealth to attract people to invest or support them. I only have few friends that do posting of luxury items on social media and most of them has some investment to offer to whoever will be interested to the items that they post online.

It’s not bad to become proud of your possession but we just need to make sure that the only person that see it are those we trust the most and not on public.
1873  Economy / Gambling / Re: What is a game you would like to see in an online crypto casino? on: September 29, 2022, 12:44:41 PM
Hey Bitcointalkers,

What games do you like to play (mobile, board games, easy game with friends, etc.) that you would love to see put into an online casino for real betting?

There have been a lot of successful yet simple games in online casinos like Heads or Tails, Over/Under, and more. We are looking to see what games you guys love and wonder if we can turn them into an online betting game!

An open platform for wagering in your own moba game.
Like a pool of likely players where they have to secure a entry money which thenwill be consolidated to pay out winning teams and players.
I dont know if this can be considered a casino game but it is a form of gambling just like tourneys where one mustpay an entry.
moba games like Mobile Legend.
until now i don't know where the platforms that have Mobile Legend tournament betting are like Dota 2. although i often bet on poker and the english league but i also have a desire if moba games like Mobile Legend are entered into the gambling platform because i really like the game. this.
well even though it is very impossible if one day the game is entered into gambling but if that happens i will be the first to enter and place bets on the tournament

Moba games like mobile legends have actually taken over the prime spot in pro gaming especially here in the south east asia. If there would be a platform where players can put in a wager when they play, it could make it more interesting. Dota 2 and LoL have their platforms but like you I have yet to see the same for mobile legends.

This type of e-sports is still managed by small organizer which makes them very risky and prone to match fixing. The grand prize of there tournaments is not that huge compared to other e-sports like Dota2 which gives 100k+ on just low tier tournament while mobile legends grand prize for SEA tournament is just close or smaller than that.

The organizer should level up there sponsors to make there game value increase so that sportsbook will add them to there book.
1874  Economy / Gambling / Re: Punt Casino - New & Improved 🎰 1000+ Games, 6 BTC Welcome Bonus 🔥🃏⚽️ on: September 28, 2022, 02:21:17 PM
Welcome to the forum for bringing a new casino here.

You'll need to purchase a account copper member in order to post images that will look more appealing than text.

The name of the casino is almost the same as another casino, namely Punt.com but in terms of the interface it is also different, maybe a coincidence. lol

I want to ask after reading the FAQ at this casino, so every withdrawal will require KYC, and the withdrawal limit of $2,500 per day and $7,500 per week also requires 7 working days, so what is the minimum withdrawal, is it at least under $100 not required KYC ?

Are there rules for withdrawing funds?
Yes, but nothing too serious. The maximum withdrawal per day is currently $2,500 and $7,500 per week. Your withdrawal will be paid out within 7 business days of the withdrawal request. Also, make sure you have wagered funds before requesting a withdrawal, as this is in line with anti-money laundering policies.

You will need to provide a photo I.D. and proof of residence when requesting your cashout, so make sure you have these on hand to speed up the process.

They have created a new ANN Thread, They have an existing ANN thread but it seems they encountered some problems and issues on their first ANN thread like then decided to create a new account and new thread. It seems that they have revamped their casino and edited the TOS especially on the KYC part since most post on their old thread mentioned KYC is a bit confusing. I think they should just edit their old thread about their new update.

This is different casino than punt.com as I check there link provided on there Ann thread. There casino website was puntcasino.com while the ANN thread that you are linking as there old website was punt.com which is active until now.

I don’t know exactly what’s his meaning for reintroducing while they don’t have previous ANN thread using the OP account. Maybe they are using Punt.com to get attention to users here for promotion.
1875  Economy / Speculation / Re: October price guess on: September 28, 2022, 01:04:46 PM
It’s still 50/50 about the direction of the trend if we use the monthly price chart because the 17K level might serve as strong support if the price bounce back there on the following weeks or it will go much lower when it’s break. One thing is for sure that the price will sure revisit again near the 17k area for a possible retest before we can see the trend for Bitcoin since the current price is just a side ways and no clear path on where it will go.

I’m optimistic that we will have a semi bull run season before the year ends but I’m not expecting the price going above 30K.
1876  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Reputation on: September 26, 2022, 03:36:18 PM
It depends on the company and school bylaws. If you are not breaking your own bylaws then it’s alright as long you are not compulsive. Most of the prominent person on different field are doing gambling to release stress from there work. Gambling is not wrong or bad if you do it moderately and responsively.

The only thing that makes gambling reputation bad was because many people got addicted on it and destroy there life just because they are greedy to earn big amount in quick way.
1877  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Casino & Sportsbook | VIP | on: September 26, 2022, 02:22:28 PM
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I think they reviewed the list of those users that will receive the exclusive bonus before sending codes to them, regardless if it's first time exclusive bonus for them or not. It's possible that there are new bonus recipients that they are adding into the list. Also some users might be removed too. Who knows, maybe if you did a certain action on site, you might receive one as well.

I'm a new user in this casino and have never gotten it I agree that there is no way to guess how they share it
Some users get it alternately some every month even I never at all, it seems they have a priority list of users
who is on the list he is a lucky user although not much but enough for fun.
I’m receiving this exclusive bonus regularly every month for more than 3 times consecutively. I’m only playing in the casino when I receive the bonus on that day then stop and wait for the next one. This way I can get exclusive bonus regularly. I think you need to reach a certain wager amount in the casino and meet some criteria which many assume that being inactive will give you high chance of receiving it on monthly basis.
1878  Economy / Gambling / Re: Twitch is going to ban most crypto gambling streamers. Where will Drake go now? on: September 26, 2022, 01:29:38 PM
Is there any official twitch announcement regarding this news? I’m casually watching gambling stream when I have time to watch more after watching my favorite gamer streamer. I doubt having a live platform specific for gambler can compete twitch because twitch is the most preferred streaming site of all viewers unless they can on board popular influencers exclusive on new platform then this might work.

Decentralized streaming site like Theta.tv and Streamcoin so that there will be no more restrictions and censorship from the government,


This is already official since twitch already make an official statement. This is just a rumor before since there’s a discussion here about gambling streamer using money of there viewer on his own bet. This is illegal against twitch terms and conditions which intensify the urge on banning all gambling related streams to protect there user for possible loss due to addiction and scam scheme.

You can read discussion about this here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5414408.0
1879  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet | Bitcoin Casino & Sportsbook | The No.1 Bitcoin Gambling Site on: September 26, 2022, 12:25:46 PM
I passed the scam section and came across this sad and regrettable situation:

Cloudbet - Asked for verification and blocked account.

It's been 1 month since this guy is waiting for a solution, this way of working is shameful, I can't believe it takes 1 month for an account to be investigated, what's happening with this casino? Could it be that there are thousands of customers with the same problem and a lack of employees in the investigation department to the point that someone has to wait 1 month to see their problem resolved? if this is the case then write on the ANN Thread that they have already exhausted their customer service capacity and that for this reason they cannot accept new users, because this guy has been waiting for your response for 1 month and this is not a good way to work.

This is happening on most of the casino even trusted one because they are not prioritizing this kind of investigation over there operation. They usually taking things slowly so that they can give an accurate result that will be fair for players and to them. 1 month is really long for this kind of investigation and cloudbet should give a conclusion already because this is already enough time to check single account especially that this issue was reported publicly that might hurt there reputation.

Cloudbet is not active so it’s very hard to raise a concern from here without there representative being active here.
1880  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: PLAYBETR trying to SCAM/STEAL, not responding to emails on: September 26, 2022, 10:55:15 AM
Include all the screenshot of your conversation with the support as evidence that this issue is really legit. Upload it on imgur.com then copy all the links here. Follow the format given by the user above because this the only way for your report become valid here.

Live support is right that can’t do anything about since this account security issue is being handled by separate department which is the security team and you can only in touch  to them via email for a better recording purposes. Your best chance is to let the Playbetr forum representative notice your complain and ping the security department about your case. @Hhampuz might help you too since he has contact on the casino team if your claim is legit.
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