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18721  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2018, 04:26:54 AM
I'm trying to remember what we did in 2014 to pass the time.


You were not born yet, in 2014.   Roll Eyes
18722  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2018, 04:19:48 AM
It seems like every one of your stories ends with you almost dying.
What other stories??


Probably this one.

..According to ILADS doctors and their alternative testing its lyme and/or bartonella but it might be something else. I also had vitamin B6 toxicity and I have a list of other things I wont share. 2 years ago I was the epitome of health and was running 10Ks
That's not about me almost dying. That's me being sick. I'm still sick, and there's a good chance I got these diseases in Peru. So in summary, Peru was awful.


From the pic, Peru looks really terrible, and difficult to navigate... so must have caused much wow and considerable depression, unless you be a boy?, then just wow.. and perhaps hope?...



Was the shamanic tea that almost killed you in Peru called ayahuasca?
It was supposed to be Ayahuasca but I'm not sure. Word is they dont really like the tourists and often spike the brew.

Ultimately we know that the sympathy card is one that you frequent in playing.... Poor por tera dee...... ebra....  Cry Cry

18723  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: April 11, 2018, 04:13:40 AM
Are the merit sources on vacation?  It seems like there aren't many merits going around these days.  Maybe people are just lazy to give them out or don't really care for the system. 

Could you be a bit more specific in your analysis?  What is your basis and evidence for your assertions?
18724  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: ✅ Binance Digital Assets Exchange Discussion, Info and Promo 💰 [Exclusive] ✅ on: April 11, 2018, 04:06:38 AM


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Binance

    4 days ago

Fellow Binancians,

We are pleased to announce that after months of development and rigorous testing, Binance has officially launched a Mac Client for its exchange platform on macOS. You may use the Mac Client to trade using your Binance account and to also observe price movements. Click (Here) to download!

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Thank you for your support and happy trading!

Binance Team

2018/03/22



Today, I just started using the dedicated mac client on one of my computers, just to test it out to see if it was more responsive than using a chrome browser, and so far, it does seem to be fairly responsive with similar features as the webpage through the chrome browser. 

I will say that in the past weeks, I just moved over to Binance from Gemini - mostly based on the high trading fees at Gemini, and I did find the Binance page to be fairly buggy (freezing and not responsive) on my macs, so that is why I chose to try out the dedicated Mac client.  I am a little bit hesitant to see whether there are advantages, and I would prefer to have one tab in my Chrome browser rather than a whole dedicated Binance Mac app, but so far the Mac app does seem to be working pretty well.

Another thing, I wished that there were a bit of a better description on the Binance page regarding why Binance chose to write a dedicated Mac client, and advantages and disadvantages of such.... also maybe describing some of the possible risks of downloading a client and why the Binance client is safe? Is the code open source, for example?  How do we know that the Binance Mac client is not performing background malicious activities?
18725  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2018, 12:26:49 AM
hahahahaha.....

You seemed to have been on the verge of either a Mike Hearn ragequit or a Rosewater scurry to the cupboards.     

 Of course, an extreme and exceptional scenario would be to digress so far as to get roached..., surely we gotta nip such situations in the bud... because, really, we don't need no more roaches in these parts, if avoidable.....  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Exhaustion is my only excuse. Not to lay it all out here...but my father passed this last December. I have failed at dealing with that issue for far too long. It really boils down to this, now I am the eldest. I have always had someone to turn to and seek knowledge and wisdom from. Now that has changed, as all things do...I am the one that my family is turning too for that comfort now. While I do not call this a burden, it has taken awhile to adjust to the new load and reality.

When we are on the interwebs, it is possible that posters are going to attempt to find your greatest possible vulnerabilities, and then see if they can break you....  so in that regard, we need to be like ducks and water.




18726  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2018, 12:16:28 AM
Respected chartist who recently lost his trading stash Bonavest...

How did he lose his trading stash? Was it through bad trades?
Well yes


hahahahahaha...


I like the humor in this.

We should (or perhaps should not) be paying attention the vices of BTC traders who lost their whole stash....

 Wink Wink      Cheesy Cheesy
18727  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2018, 07:19:22 PM

Get a grip, Toxic. 

This is only an interwebs thread.

Snap out of it.     Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Needed that reality check...thanks Jay.

hahahahaha.....

You seemed to have been on the verge of either a Mike Hearn ragequit or a Rosewater scurry to the cupboards.     

 Of course, an extreme and exceptional scenario would be to digress so far as to get roached..., surely we gotta nip such situations in the bud... because, really, we don't need no more roaches in these parts, if avoidable.....  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
18728  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2018, 06:59:37 PM
Tera (or anyone else) - do you understand how Cointracking is accounting for the BFX hack?   I think it is screwing up my balances.


From the context, I gather you are trying to figure out basis and taxes...

When you refer to BFX hack, you mean the supposed BFX hack from August 2016?  And then there was a issuance of BFX tokens that counted for across the board crediting of 36%, and those balance of those BFX tokens that were still in your account (and not traded) were fully redeemed by April 1, 2017.
18729  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2018, 10:00:49 AM
The JayJuanGee strive for excellence system.  Will need Tura to confirm or deny viability.

Your first step towards excellence might be to attempt to stay focused on bitcoin, since that is the topic of this thread, rather than straying into random tangential topics.

 Tongue
18730  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2018, 09:22:32 AM
I'm looking forward to another jjgee spree, you entertain me


No you are not, you nothingness poster who wants to focus on meaninglessness.





Trolls like you don't really seem to recognize:






But instead striving for attention:



Do you feel better, now that someone paid attention to you and played with you?
18731  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Gemini's fees have quadrupled as of this morning for most users. on: April 10, 2018, 09:01:57 AM
No idea why they have increased the fees for users so much.

1% maker/taker fee is pretty much the highest that I've seen in recent years on big exchanges. You can easily get better trading fees on other exchanges under 0.25%. It's a huge difference and it piles up if your volume isn't much daily but you trade consistently, and is unable to fall under a higher bracket on their fee division tables.

So yes, even without the BNB discounts Binance seems to be a better option at the moment.

No idea why you would trade with Gemini after this fee update if there is a difference by a factor of 10-20x of the trading fees, compared to better sites.

It seems that exchanges are trying to be competitive in their own various and unique ways, and if they can achieve a certain user base, then they can still be successful in their own right.  Surely, cannot knock Gemini for trying to appeal to the deeper pocket wall-street types, yet that just does not appeal to me when there seem to be quite a few options that are attempting to prove themselves.. and maybe some of these other exchange options will succeed? 

GDAX has been compared as a 0% fee trading option (at least in terms of maker fees), and yeah, GDAX seems to be trying to make money on other products, or at least the taker fees may make up for the low maker fees? yet I am surprised for how long GDAX have kept their maker fees at 0%, and the binance fees seem a bit more realistic with .1% maker fees, with a discount of 50% to buy their BNB token.. That 50% discount is a big incentive and helps to push their seemingly utility token.  I certainly could not resist buying a few BNB tokens, just to receive a 50% discount on fees.  Almost any time that I start with a new exchange, there is a bit of fear and a bit of a learning curve, and at first I felt that the Binance interface was a bit clunky and even buggy - but I am kind of getting used to it, how it loads, and surely I do like exchanges that allow me to sort the order of my outstanding orders (by amounts rather than by chronology of when the orders were placed), and Gemini does not have that feature, either.
18732  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Gemini's fees have quadrupled as of this morning for most users. on: April 10, 2018, 03:15:54 AM


Gemini's introduction of block trading today, may be another indication of their attempts at prestige price direction and OTC rather than exchange trades?

https://gemini.com/blog/introducing-gemini-block-trading/
18733  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2018, 02:51:47 AM
The only way is down now
no chance we are reaching 8k for a very long time.

The way I see it, in this particular moment it's very hard to name a "no chance" event.

Merited. Wise words.  While catching up on this thread gradually you see how unwise and price prediction in any direction is, on any near/medium term time frame.

TA / price analysis is fun to see, but so much of it is as accurate as a stopped clock, as all we can do is to try to set up for whatever happens.  I was watching your 'short insurance' strategy, seemed to make sense - may I ask how it has panned out?  Or is it just too much work to keep on top of it?

Thanks for the appreciation.

My insurance is doing fine! With today's dip, I'm comfortably in the money. With the latest fluctuations, I'd already managed to nurse it to a higher entry point with incidental small profit. My aim isn't maximum profit, but maximum comfort, as JayJuanGee said. This makes it a little easier, but it's still hard work for me. Of course there's a different "hard work" threshold for each one of us. With the position moving to a higher entry point, the amount of work decreases.

However, if it doesn't hurt at times, I feel I'm doing it wrong. It's supposed to hurt a little now and then, unless you're magically able to spot either tops or bottoms (which would make hedging moot anyway).

I'm not closing it yet. Bring it down to 5k or 3k, will you? Please??  Tongue

I've also worked out a "pain threshold" in advance. That's where I'll close the insurance hedge (at a loss) before liquidation if I don't manage to close gradually on the way up while still in the money. The numbers are good: by the time we reach that threshold, it will be Carolina Train time around here.

That's just my play money, of course. If it was my stash at stake, I wouldn't be so detached or cool headed in making difficult decisions.



Is it possible for you to have established partial closiong targets?  For example, four of them, or some other comfortable quantity:  1) at $6,200, 2) at $5,200, 3) at $4,200 and 4) at $3,200. 

I really don't believe that it is very likely that your $3,200-ish one would close, but of course, from time to time, we do get to experience real extremes in bitcoinlandia... and if BTC prices go lower than $3,200 (which would likely be partially attributable to various alt coin markets exacerbating such a negative downward drive), then you still would have made a lot of money on your shorts, so you would also be able to buy more BTC below that $3,200 price point. Do you have a better way of framing your tentative ongoing correction strategy, at this time?
18734  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2018, 02:34:15 AM
Sadly...I feel if I just give up on this thread.."they" win...   That being said, Ive had enough..stop feeding the trolls...and ffs stop quoting them. I actually am so fed up that today for the first time in literally years I blocked two accounts on here.

I am done with the fucking neo nazi bullshit...I am done with the little bug going on about metals..I am done with all of it..I am just done. You dont have to grow up but please grow a brain.

infofront   While I appreciate the light touch used in moderating here...a line has been crossed once to many times imo. Deal with it. Please.

RF....  +2 WOsMerits for the taint info, another great read..thanks.

Quote from: A smart man
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

*edit*   3 accounts blocked..thanks.


Get a grip, Toxic. 


This is only an interwebs thread.

Snap out of it.     Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
18735  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2018, 02:31:10 AM
JayJuanGee, I'm not even going to bother replying to that blob of poop,

Here's what I think of your non-response response:



And here is what i think of your attempt at "clean language"






but if you haven't noticed, transaction validators in craptocurrency are ALWAYS designed to centralize through either economy of scale, compounding stake interest, foundry capital requirements, technique or other IP monopolization, asymmetric energy costs and subsidies, and a million other variables.  Instead of isolated, these issues are not only culmulative, but multiplicative with each other in nature to make it even more stupid.  

Blah, blah, blah.. you can say all that you like about a tendency towards centralization, but you are not saying one fucking thing, beyond asserting a conclusion that you want to make that is based on theory rather than facts.


It's 100% not possible to create a decentralized cryptocurrency.


Yes, there may not be 100% decentralization, but who fucking cares.  Bitcoin is amongst the closest to decentralized that there is, especially when it comes to currency and store of value... so you take what level of decentralization that exists and you decide whether it is worth investing into or not.  If you think that bitcoin is not worth investing into, and you think that stupid ass precious metals, such as gold or silver are better investments, then go forth and invest in that crap... you are not really providing much value here with your contrarian and non-substantive pie in the sky bitcoin naysaying talking points, are you?

Since the tokens are non-fungible and transaction validators are designed to centralize, that makes it a permissioned ledger by default.

Yes, another nonsensical talking point.  fungible is a term of relativity, and so far bitcoin has been pretty fungible - unless perhaps you are working with trying to send them to an exchange that is engaging in blacklisting (which seems a hypothetical point, currently - in other words, you are making shit up).. so yeah, throw out your assertions of non-fungibility or permissioned, but you are again talking in pie in the sky theory about some kind of problem that does not yet exist, excepts perhaps in some exceptional and anecdotal instances, that you are probably not even able to point out any actual meaningful or representative instances of such.

 If you had actually spent any amount of time studying these issues instead of scratching yourself like a baboon you might have figured it out.

I have figured out that you spread a lot of nonsense, and to the extent that you have any education, yourself, you use your education to engage in the spreading of hypothetical nonsense and hate and distracting talking points, rather than engaging in any kind of substantive and meaningful sharing of information.  which deserves another pathetic and lame eyeroll, but I cannot muster the energy. 



18736  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 09, 2018, 07:24:07 AM
Reading JayJuanGee posts will probably give you a heart attack, ack, ack, ack, ack, ack.  

Now you are trying to quote from Billy Joel.  Go figure?


He thinks bitcoin is "money", but you oughta know by now.  

Get the fuck out of here with informing about what JJG thinks, when all the fuck you want to do is to ramble on with your stupid-ass talking points?

I did not narrow in on what I think bitcoin is, including whether it is money, but to suggest that it remains a good investment with opportunities for folks who can recognize what bitcoin is bringing to the table, whether that is some kind of present of future money or some other use case that bitcoin has currently or into the future... and if we compare bitcoin to gold or silver, it seems to offer a lot, relatively speaking, and that is only one kind of set of use cases..... .

It's a designed to centralize, non-fungible, permissioned ledger, valueless token.  

You just making shit up because you want to someone to talk about each of these talking points.  You are using descriptors that are  the opposite of what bitcoin is... so get the fuck out of here with your misinformation that is asserting opposites as if they were true descriptors of bitcoin.

You're not empowering yourself by participating; you're surrendering power to the centralized transaction validators who can blacklist your funds at will.  

How the fuck is that going to happen, you nutjob?  Each of us has the ability to use the amount of discretion that we would like in terms of how much of our quasi-liquid investment capital that we want to put into bitcoin.  Of course, we can start slow by buying and accumulating bitcoin, and then we can figure out various ways to store bitcoin in order that we can keep our bitcoins completely secure.  On the one hand, if we accumulate our bitcoin's through KYC and AML institutions, then there is going to be more chances that our exact quantity of bitcoins (and their locations) will be known.  But there are also various creative ways in which we could be able to accumulate and store our bitcoin, with at least a certain amount of plausible deniability regarding our exact holdings.  Surely, there are going to be more and more tools built on the governmental end to attempt to track coins, and there are going to be more tools that attempt to make it possible for bitcoin to be somewhat anonymous like cash.. but the back and forth and the tension in these implementations are not necessarily going to be easy to figure out.. and therefore, each of us will need to continue to figure out our own means to accumulate, report and store (whether we believe that our coins are somewhat private or we just assume them to be completely known and taxable at whatever time we chose to cash them out... that is if we do not take them to the grave with us?).

It's an obvious 1984 system that only dumbasses have not caught onto yet.  

This is called FUD spreading... for some reason an attempt by you to magnify fear, and sure you are likely butt hurt because to the extent that you might have had any coins, you sold most, if not all, of your coins below $600.. sorry about that    Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry  you butt hurt fuck...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I love how none of you idiots can offer any type of explanation as to why evil Jews like Larry Summers and Ben Bernanke support craptocurrency.

Yeah, everyone is an idiot, except for you, because you were smart enough to get out of this obvious trap below $600.  You sure do seem smart to be trolling and spreading nonsense FUD, ever since.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

If that's what it's all about, if you think that's movin up, then I'm movin out.



It's about figuring out a strategy that works for yourself, and if you are able to earn more than the investment average over time, then more the power to you...  .. again, your pumping of PMs seems a poor substitute investment for someone who might be considering various advantages and disadvantages of bitcoin in regards to their own personal circumstances including other investments that they may have, their view of bitcoin and other investments, their risk tolerance, their timeline and other relevant factors.
18737  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 09, 2018, 06:00:33 AM
Going from $20k to sub $6k is brutal but still atleast 500% up from last year...astonishing!
 
Everything is just fine for a longterm hodler Kiss

Another way to look at it is longterm holders were given what was possibly a once in a lifetime shot, and some of us sort of blew it.

Blockchain prostitution is sort of interesting...

Once in a lifetime is not over, yet.

What planet are you on?

Bitcoin is only a bit more than 5 years old, and surely only the real nerds  (or really niche folks) knew about bitcoin or were ready, willing or able to put some decent amount of money into bitcoin prior to 2013--- however, 2013 saw some extensions of bitcoin to the masses and their ability to get into bitcoin with two exorbitant BTC price rises that brought bitcoin from about $15 to $1,163.  That is not shabby and happens to be a 78x price increase.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, any person investing into bitcoin could have gotten shaken out of his/her bitcoins in 2014, 2015, 2016 or even in 2017 with both market downswings, fears about sustainability with upswings, and the seemingly increasing levels of FUD spreading regarding the death of bitcoin.  But even those were opportunities.

Opportunities still exist for those who are ready, willing and able to recognize such opportunities, and get the fuck out of here with any claims that bitcoin is already becoming mature and saturated, because those kinds of claims or even inferences are bunk.  This bitcoin market remains way too small with likely less than  .5% world adoption, and you are full of shit to imply that bitcoin opportunities are gone or that bitcoin opportunities have already passed by.

 On the other hand, even though presently there are all kinds of bitcoin opportunities, there are no guarantees of the short term price, and it is possible that prices could go DOWN from here rather than UP - but I would rather be HODLing some BTC CRAEFULly.... right now than to be fearing downtrends in the market....

Therefore, opportunity says, buy if the price goes down... and also prepare your self for the price to go up, because there is no guarantee that the price is going down.... and we got's ourselfies opportunities, here and now.  Bitcoin has been a good investment, and it seems likely to continue to be a good investment for those who are willing to recognize such and to continue to attempt to accumulate more of it.
18738  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 09, 2018, 05:33:38 AM



Actually, I did find this to be an interesting topic, and here is the link to the tweet.

https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/982964459663646720
18739  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 07, 2018, 04:02:15 AM
Also, does anyone find it hilarious JayJuanGee's merit is higher than Elwars?  Isn't that proof the system is useless?  If you combine both of my accounts, mine is 1145 - also lower than his.  This is depressing.  Is JayJuanGee cheating and meriting himself?

To be honest I don't post that many things that are merit worthy....mostly just random BS that doesn't add much. With a few scattered useful posts for flavor.

And the only reason my merit is high is because I don't give out very many. And when I do it's usually one at a time.


You don't lose merit by giving out smerit.  You have an smerit bank that is separate from your merit that is listed under your username.. once you receive merits, that credits smerits to your smerit bank at 1/2 of the merits that you receive.   The merits are permanent, but the generated smerits can be spent and they do not really help to save them, except perhaps if you are just trying to budget them.     

As a Legendary member, your initial distribution bank of smerits would have been up to 200 smerits for initial distribution, depending on your activity level for the year preceding January 24 initial distribution of smerits.
18740  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Gemini's fees have quadrupled as of this morning for most users. on: April 07, 2018, 03:53:31 AM
No idea why they have increased the fees for users so much.

1% maker/taker fee is pretty much the highest that I've seen in recent years on big exchanges. You can easily get better trading fees on other exchanges under 0.25%. It's a huge difference and it piles up if your volume isn't much daily but you trade consistently, and is unable to fall under a higher bracket on their fee division tables.

So yes, even without the BNB discounts Binance seems to be a better option at the moment.

No idea why you would trade with Gemini after this fee update if there is a difference by a factor of 10-20x of the trading fees, compared to better sites.

Gemini can still be good for USA customers to enter quickly in or out of dollars from your bank..... even though perhaps not regular trading.

i guess, but why would you use them instead of GDAX at this point? 1% maker fee on gemini? that's pretty embarrassing for them. you can get 0% maker fees on GDAX. same fast and free ACH transfer and cheap wires, and free BTC withdrawals.

i really don't see what gemini is doing here. they need more volume and liquidity. this will only hurt them. and they didn't do anything to incentivize market makers to bring bigger liquidity either.

i wonder what the hell is going on over there....

I agree with a lot of what you are saying, yet it seems that we will have to see how it plays out.... and if they lose trade volume, as you and I seem to be predicting (and whether that loss of trade volume, assuming it occurs, negatively affects their overall business).

It is possible that Gemini will have to reverse themselves (on their fee policy), but perhaps they are just testing a theory in which they have some knowledge about their business that plays out for them to scare off some of their average Joes in the prestige pricing arena?
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