Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[HairyMaclairy]

same story on stamp...tell me you aren't in linear mode

FUCK it’s not my normal computer I’m using right now.  Omg.  How bad is that.  Yes default is to linear. How depressing.  Lol.  

Anyway, I’m back to all in. Fuck em all I’m riding this train up from 6750.

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[Toxic2040]

I’ll show you mine if you show me yours.

Bitstamp
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Do you consider GDAX to be a legitimate charting source?  Is Bitstamp too old school?

From personal experience, I have seen bounces from both BFX and Bitstamp resistance breaking.

same story on stamp...tell me you aren't in linear mode

I prefer Bitstamp personally for charting and GDAX a close 2nd. The charting option at the actual GDAX site while robust and secure leave a lot on the table as far as customization of indicators and what I like to call frills.. e.g. changing colors, time frames and other visual candies.

Close up of the 'Stamp. We have breached a lower band of resistance and are consolidating nicely. Classic accumulation patterns on display.

#btfd                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     #dyor

[mindrust]

Going from $20k to sub $6k is brutal but still atleast 500% up from last year...astonishing!
 
Everything is just fine for a longterm hodler

Another way to look at it is longterm holders were given what was possibly a once in a lifetime shot, and some of us sort of blew it.

Blockchain prostitution is sort of interesting...

There will be another, much bigger comeback. (At least $100k I expect) Unless you owned more than 20coins during the last pump, I don't think you missed anything.

Be grateful, we have like 2-3 years ahead to collect cheap bitcoins. The next pump will probably happen after the halvening in 2020.

[Rosewater Foundation]

Going from $20k to sub $6k is brutal but still atleast 500% up from last year...astonishing!
 
Everything is just fine for a longterm hodler

Another way to look at it is longterm holders were given what was possibly a once in a lifetime shot, and some of us sort of blew it.

Blockchain prostitution is sort of interesting...

There will be another, much bigger comeback. (At least $100k I expect) Unless you owned more than 20coins during the last pump, I don't think you missed anything.

Be grateful, we have like 2-3 years ahead to collect cheap bitcoins. The next pump will probably happen after the halvening in 2020.

When I started buying bitcoins I had to go without fancy meatballs for weeks. I don't think you fully grasp the sacrifices I've made already.

[TERA2]

Trump has now declared himself an enemy of the republic by supporting the fake, Jewish false flag chemical attack against Russia/Syria and will be classified the same as the criminal Jews themselves and their shabbos goyim servants like Lindsey Graham:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-08/trump-threatens-assad-putin-over-syrian-chemical-attack-russia-warns-gravest

So do this mean buy silver?

[JayJuanGee]

Actually, I did find this to be an interesting topic, and here is the link to the tweet.

https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/982964459663646720

[realr0ach]

Trump has now declared himself an enemy of the republic by supporting the fake, Jewish false flag chemical attack against Russia/Syria and will be classified the same as the criminal Jews themselves and their shabbos goyim servants like Lindsey Graham:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-08/trump-threatens-assad-putin-over-syrian-chemical-attack-russia-warns-gravest

So do this mean buy silver?

Duh.  The fundamentals and the chart are both retardedly good.

Current Silver:




Back when I told everyone silver was now in a can't lose position when we were on the double bottom:



Do not be an idiot and buy paper silver, though.  Anything besides taking delivery of physical is a losing proposition unless you want to own 1 of the 500+ claims on each real ounce that can never be filled.  Comex is also in a state of technical default forwarding contracts to London.

Funny how right when the DOW and housing market are rolling over and silver is coiled to explode the (((Kayaks))) are desperate to start a war to create some type of scapegoat as to why these events are occurring.  Most people don't pay any attention to things like metal's prices, so that's not actually the issue here.  It's mostly that when the DOW and housing both go bust again with both 1/2 or lower than what they are now, it's going to blow up the banks because they cannot handle any form of deflation.  

They'll enact their "Citibank clause" that states depositors are unsecured creditors and may be stolen from (Cyprused) to keep the banks whole.  They might even be double Gox'd because nobody will purchase US bonds anymore either.  Maybe the bank will just steal 1/2 while the US govt steals the other 1/2 and replaces them with worthless tbills.  Regardless, the whole thing is gonna be a death spiral where the currency and any form of digital 1's and 0's becomes untrusted/worthless, metals become a hell of a lot more trusted, and govt is forced to dramatically revalue silver and gold to exstinguish the debt bubble implosion.

I believe there's a lot of evidence US gold reserves are all or mostly gone, and that JP Morgan rigging the silver paper market while acquiring huge amounts of physical was done acting as an agent of the US govt so they have something on the balance sheet to remonetize as a backup plan.  Revaluation/remonetization favoring gold more than silver doesn't even make sense in the first place since too many 3rd world countries like India have hoarded all the gold now, which would make everyone on the planet slaves of India, and there's no parties interested in that.  Revaluation favoring silver over gold percentage-wise is actually the only logical move for the west.

[JayJuanGee]

Going from $20k to sub $6k is brutal but still atleast 500% up from last year...astonishing!
 
Everything is just fine for a longterm hodler

Another way to look at it is longterm holders were given what was possibly a once in a lifetime shot, and some of us sort of blew it.

Blockchain prostitution is sort of interesting...

Once in a lifetime is not over, yet.

What planet are you on?

Bitcoin is only a bit more than 5 years old, and surely only the real nerds  (or really niche folks) knew about bitcoin or were ready, willing or able to put some decent amount of money into bitcoin prior to 2013--- however, 2013 saw some extensions of bitcoin to the masses and their ability to get into bitcoin with two exorbitant BTC price rises that brought bitcoin from about $15 to $1,163.  That is not shabby and happens to be a 78x price increase.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, any person investing into bitcoin could have gotten shaken out of his/her bitcoins in 2014, 2015, 2016 or even in 2017 with both market downswings, fears about sustainability with upswings, and the seemingly increasing levels of FUD spreading regarding the death of bitcoin.  But even those were opportunities.

Opportunities still exist for those who are ready, willing and able to recognize such opportunities, and get the fuck out of here with any claims that bitcoin is already becoming mature and saturated, because those kinds of claims or even inferences are bunk.  This bitcoin market remains way too small with likely less than  .5% world adoption, and you are full of shit to imply that bitcoin opportunities are gone or that bitcoin opportunities have already passed by.

 On the other hand, even though presently there are all kinds of bitcoin opportunities, there are no guarantees of the short term price, and it is possible that prices could go DOWN from here rather than UP - but I would rather be HODLing some BTC CRAEFULly.... right now than to be fearing downtrends in the market....

Therefore, opportunity says, buy if the price goes down... and also prepare your self for the price to go up, because there is no guarantee that the price is going down.... and we got's ourselfies opportunities, here and now.  Bitcoin has been a good investment, and it seems likely to continue to be a good investment for those who are willing to recognize such and to continue to attempt to accumulate more of it.

[pacman7331]

same story on stamp...tell me you aren't in linear mode

FUCK it’s not my normal computer I’m using right now.  Omg.  How bad is that.  Yes default is to linear. How depressing.  Lol. 

Anyway, I’m back to all in. Fuck em all I’m riding this train up from 6750.

I got burned by the bears not taking us to 6k. Probably a good decision on their part though.

U know whats funny. Is the psychology of buying at a higher price when u could have bought low means you basically have to hand someone else credit and admit u missed a chance to some extant.

But if you don’t admit this, you risk missing out further.

And then there is kinda the jealousy of not being in the market at the bottom, that may be enough to prevent investment. And these are the bitcoin bubble preachers.

[realr0ach]

Reading JayJuanGee posts will probably give you a heart attack, ack, ack, ack, ack, ack.  

He thinks bitcoin is "money", but you oughta know by now.  It's a designed to centralize, non-fungible, permissioned ledger, valueless token.  You're not empowering yourself by participating; you're surrendering power to the centralized transaction validators who can blacklist your funds at will.  It's an obvious 1984 system that only dumbasses have not caught onto yet.  I love how none of you idiots can offer any type of explanation as to why evil Jews like Larry Summers and Ben Bernanke support craptocurrency.

If that's what it's all about, if you think that's movin up, then I'm movin out.

[nikauforest]

Looking at the uptrend lines of the past few years, it looks to me strong support at 4-5k. If we hit that support the downtrend could be over soon. Anyways , I hope we do not go that low, but it appears possible. Maybe we go as high as 8k in the current rally and then back down?

[mindrust]

Looking at the uptrend lines of the past few years, it looks to me strong support at 4-5k. If we hit that support the downtrend could be over soon. Anyways , I hope we do not go that low, but it appears possible. Maybe we go as high as 8k in the current rally and then back down?

Check this out.
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/HIIQLGOd-Try-again/

[JayJuanGee]

Reading JayJuanGee posts will probably give you a heart attack, ack, ack, ack, ack, ack.  

Now you are trying to quote from Billy Joel.  Go figure?

He thinks bitcoin is "money", but you oughta know by now.  

Get the fuck out of here with informing about what JJG thinks, when all the fuck you want to do is to ramble on with your stupid-ass talking points?

I did not narrow in on what I think bitcoin is, including whether it is money, but to suggest that it remains a good investment with opportunities for folks who can recognize what bitcoin is bringing to the table, whether that is some kind of present of future money or some other use case that bitcoin has currently or into the future... and if we compare bitcoin to gold or silver, it seems to offer a lot, relatively speaking, and that is only one kind of set of use cases..... .

It's a designed to centralize, non-fungible, permissioned ledger, valueless token.  

You just making shit up because you want to someone to talk about each of these talking points.  You are using descriptors that are  the opposite of what bitcoin is... so get the fuck out of here with your misinformation that is asserting opposites as if they were true descriptors of bitcoin.

You're not empowering yourself by participating; you're surrendering power to the centralized transaction validators who can blacklist your funds at will.  

How the fuck is that going to happen, you nutjob?  Each of us has the ability to use the amount of discretion that we would like in terms of how much of our quasi-liquid investment capital that we want to put into bitcoin.  Of course, we can start slow by buying and accumulating bitcoin, and then we can figure out various ways to store bitcoin in order that we can keep our bitcoins completely secure.  On the one hand, if we accumulate our bitcoin's through KYC and AML institutions, then there is going to be more chances that our exact quantity of bitcoins (and their locations) will be known.  But there are also various creative ways in which we could be able to accumulate and store our bitcoin, with at least a certain amount of plausible deniability regarding our exact holdings.  Surely, there are going to be more and more tools built on the governmental end to attempt to track coins, and there are going to be more tools that attempt to make it possible for bitcoin to be somewhat anonymous like cash.. but the back and forth and the tension in these implementations are not necessarily going to be easy to figure out.. and therefore, each of us will need to continue to figure out our own means to accumulate, report and store (whether we believe that our coins are somewhat private or we just assume them to be completely known and taxable at whatever time we chose to cash them out... that is if we do not take them to the grave with us?).

It's an obvious 1984 system that only dumbasses have not caught onto yet.  

This is called FUD spreading... for some reason an attempt by you to magnify fear, and sure you are likely butt hurt because to the extent that you might have had any coins, you sold most, if not all, of your coins below $600.. sorry about that      you butt hurt fuck... 

I love how none of you idiots can offer any type of explanation as to why evil Jews like Larry Summers and Ben Bernanke support craptocurrency.

Yeah, everyone is an idiot, except for you, because you were smart enough to get out of this obvious trap below $600.  You sure do seem smart to be trolling and spreading nonsense FUD, ever since.   

If that's what it's all about, if you think that's movin up, then I'm movin out.

It's about figuring out a strategy that works for yourself, and if you are able to earn more than the investment average over time, then more the power to you...  .. again, your pumping of PMs seems a poor substitute investment for someone who might be considering various advantages and disadvantages of bitcoin in regards to their own personal circumstances including other investments that they may have, their view of bitcoin and other investments, their risk tolerance, their timeline and other relevant factors.

[MERlT]

Reading JayJuanGee posts will probably give you a heart attack, ack, ack, ack, ack, ack.  

He thinks bitcoin is "money", but you oughta know by now.  It's a designed to centralize, non-fungible, permissioned ledger, valueless token.  You're not empowering yourself by participating; you're surrendering power to the centralized transaction validators who can blacklist your funds at will.  It's an obvious 1984 system that only dumbasses have not caught onto yet.  I love how none of you idiots can offer any type of explanation as to why evil Jews like Larry Summers and Ben Bernanke support craptocurrency.

If that's what it's all about, if you think that's movin up, then I'm movin out.

I have to say I'm quite impressed, with the effort that you have put into creating this fictional closet Hitler clone character.
I'm not sure if you're Stephen, Theymos or Bashco, but a lot of effort has gone into maintaining this facade. Is this for entertainment
or just boredom?
  

[yefi]

My gut tells me a hammer has just as much deadly potential, if not more.

The Dnepropetrovsk maniacs seemed to be quite effective with them.

[nikauforest]

Looking at the uptrend lines of the past few years, it looks to me strong support at 4-5k. If we hit that support the downtrend could be over soon. Anyways , I hope we do not go that low, but it appears possible. Maybe we go as high as 8k in the current rally and then back down?

Check this out.
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/HIIQLGOd-Try-again/

That chart has been accurate so far. I am having a hard time seeing it going below 3k though.

[realr0ach]

JayJuanGee, I'm not even going to bother replying to that blob of poop, but if you haven't noticed, transaction validators in craptocurrency are ALWAYS designed to centralize through either economy of scale, compounding stake interest, foundry capital requirements, technique or other IP monopolization, asymmetric energy costs and subsidies, and a million other variables.  Instead of isolated, these issues are not only culmulative, but multiplicative with each other in nature to make it even more stupid.  It's 100% not possible to create a decentralized cryptocurrency.

Since the tokens are non-fungible and transaction validators are designed to centralize, that makes it a permissioned ledger by default.  If you had actually spent any amount of time studying these issues instead of scratching yourself like a baboon you might have figured it out.

[realr0ach]

I have to say I'm quite impressed, with the effort that you have put into creating this fictional closet Hitler clone character.

I would say pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.  In case you haven't noticed, this was an inveitable, global, grassroots Nazi movement in response to the evil cult known as Jews constantly pushing the Goyim. They push a little and notice nobody pushed back, so they decide to push just a little more...and more, and more, and more to see just how far they can push.  Then eventually, someone says:  no, there will not be any more pushing today.  In fact, we will do a little pushing of our own. We will give them absolutely nothing, but take from them everything.

[MERlT]

I have to say I'm quite impressed, with the effort that you have put into creating this fictional closet Hitler clone character.

I would say pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.  In case you haven't noticed, this was an inveitable, global, grassroots Nazi movement in response to the evil cult known as Jews constantly pushing the Goyim. They push a little and notice nobody pushed back, so they decide to push just a little more...and more, and more, and more to see just how far they can push.  Then eventually, someone says:  no, there will not be any more pushing today.  In fact, we will do a little pushing of our own. We will give them absolutely nothing, but take from them everything.

"We will give them absolutely nothing, but take from them everything." Yes a notable Frank Miller Quote, bit of a reach to suggest Nazi's where
 or are the victimised underdogs. I'm just eating popcorn and don't really care who takes out whom, the only difference between the players are the
the amount of times they get to sit on the chair when the music stops. All Empires will fall and have fallen, regrettably they're mostly replaced with bigger wankers than the disposed incumbent scum, time for a new model, hopefully Bitcoin might be the gateway to something different.   

[Toxic2040]

Sadly...I feel if I just give up on this thread.."they" win...   That being said, Ive had enough..stop feeding the trolls...and ffs stop quoting them. I actually am so fed up that today for the first time in literally years I blocked two accounts on here.

I am done with the fucking neo nazi bullshit...I am done with the little bug going on about metals..I am done with all of it..I am just done. You dont have to grow up but please grow a brain.

infofront   While I appreciate the light touch used in moderating here...a line has been crossed once to many times imo. Deal with it. Please.

RF....  +2 WOsMerits for the taint info, another great read..thanks.

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

*edit*   3 accounts blocked..thanks.