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18781  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen. on: April 03, 2018, 01:46:39 AM
Some of us missed out, made mistakes, sold too early, etc. Is there support for a new, upper-middle class?

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I'm glad you're rich and elite. and I'm glad that like you, too, began to engage in bitcoin


You were definitely one of the earlier contributors to this thread, but I suppose that it is understandable how any of us, at any time, can be tricked out of our coins.  Reminds me of the tweet from the guy who raked in 5x returns and sold his 1700 BTC at $.30 and regretting that he had not held until $8 (twitter status, liinked below).    

https://twitter.com/GregSchoen/status/70261648811761665

There are some folks who are going to sell too much, too soon, no matter what because their conviction is not strong enough.
 
I personally suggest that if anyone sells any of their bitcoins, then either replace those coins right away if selling on the way down, or only sell incrementally if selling on the way up... such as selling only small portions at a time (less than 50% and perhaps having a rule to never sell any more than 10% at any given time and only after a certain decent amount of price appreciation, such as 100% price appreciation).  

Surely, there is going to be personal variation and maybe even nervousness that causes the selling of too many coins, but we should not want to gamble on the downside with our bitcoins, to lose faith in bitcoin or to get tricked out of our bitcoin holdings (whether we are being greedy to cash in our profits or scared about losing paper profits)... so in this regard, over investing or leveraging can be a problem, too.

Does anyone know who, or what pseudoname the person who got famous for buying a pizza for 10,000 BTC?  I wonder if that is gut wrenching for him looking back on that and wondering "what if" all the time?  I would love to look back at any threads based around that moment in Internet history.

Of course hind sight is always going to be 20/20 and you can't allow yourself to beat yourself up all the time about it, but I never had to go through things like that or the one instance you described.

Below is laszlo's pizza thread, and I thought I had seen something else by him on lightning.  It may have been on reddit since it appears that the most recent forum posts of his are from early 2014.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.msg1141#msg1141

18782  Other / Meta / Re: [April fools] New new rank requirements on: April 03, 2018, 12:26:55 AM
What a crap! Not funny at all Theymos Angry
I am new here, is it normal for every year to post such jokes?

Nope this is the first time ever, I'm sure it won' happen again next year or the torches will break out! Cheesy

Yes.  We should demand that theymos has to follow through with implementation of the "new new" rank system that he announced or to implement some close approximation, including possibly a "new new new" rank system, or otherwise solemnly and sincerely pinky agree to never, ever, ever, ever again try to April fool forum peeps.  




Angry Angry    Think of the impact on the innocent, theymos....    Furthermore, April fools' must be uninvented.   Angry Angry Angry
18783  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 03, 2018, 12:09:13 AM
Where are all the GENTS/SIR’S/BOSSES off the merit sources to help out the little man, in This context like me 

One simple rule. Make me laugh, get a merit. It's automatic.

*ahem*

two fish are sitting in a tank. one turns to the other and says, "Man, i have no idea how to drive this thing." Cheesy


How do we know that you are the real arkian?  The latest posts from you (before your posting hiatus) were related to your getting some of your accounts hacked into, so what happened to all of that?  Did your BTC talk account get hacked into, too, and then you are not the real deal?  Did you lose any BTC during the hacking attempts?  what was your reason for your hiatus?  was it because of the hackings or something else?
18784  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen. on: April 02, 2018, 11:56:28 PM
Some of us missed out, made mistakes, sold too early, etc. Is there support for a new, upper-middle class?





I'm glad you're rich and elite. and I'm glad that like you, too, began to engage in bitcoin


You were definitely one of the earlier contributors to this thread, but I suppose that it is understandable how any of us, at any time, can be tricked out of our coins.  Reminds me of the tweet from the guy who raked in 5x returns and sold his 1700 BTC at $.30 and regretting that he had not held until $8 (twitter status, liinked below).   

https://twitter.com/GregSchoen/status/70261648811761665

There are some folks who are going to sell too much, too soon, no matter what because their conviction is not strong enough.
 
I personally suggest that if anyone sells any of their bitcoins, then either replace those coins right away if selling on the way down, or only sell incrementally if selling on the way up... such as selling only small portions at a time (less than 50% and perhaps having a rule to never sell any more than 10% at any given time and only after a certain decent amount of price appreciation, such as 100% price appreciation). 

Surely, there is going to be personal variation and maybe even nervousness that causes the selling of too many coins, but we should not want to gamble on the downside with our bitcoins, to lose faith in bitcoin or to get tricked out of our bitcoin holdings (whether we are being greedy to cash in our profits or scared about losing paper profits)... so in this regard, over investing or leveraging can be a problem, too.
18785  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 02, 2018, 11:16:49 PM
Why do we have less crazy values in the poll this time? It's supposed to be always super-bullish. Kindly put up at least a ten thousand dollar option by April 15. Grin

It looks like OP slash poll-maker has turned pessimistic.  Could this be capitulation or despondence or some other blood in the street indicator that the bottom is near?     Cry Cry Cry
18786  Other / Meta / Re: [April fools] New new rank requirements on: April 02, 2018, 09:21:30 PM
Turned out to be an April fool’s joke 🙂, at least i learned something new and never heard of it before (Conway's Game of Life)

I am glad that this whole "new new" rank requirements ended up being a joke - because when I first noticed the new status indicators below my username, I thought "shit, I am going to have a lot of reading to do in order to attempt to figure these out."   hahahahahha... Great.  The teacher removed the homework assignment.   Cheesy Cheesy
18787  Other / Meta / Re: [April fools] New new rank requirements on: April 02, 2018, 09:01:10 PM


Could you let me to take your place in "New new rank requirements" and you could keep "New rank requirements" for yourself?



I am feeling like the hippo right now.

18788  Other / Meta / Re: [April fools] New new rank requirements on: April 02, 2018, 07:19:47 AM
Yesterday not less than 172 sMerit was received by the forum administrator TheyMos for the newly introduced system which later turn out to be April Fools. Can one conclude that sMerit sent was a waits?

I would imagine a large percentage (90% or more) of those dishing out merits for this subject matter either understood that it was an April fools joke or that they were taking the subject matter with a LARGE grain of salt (in the event that they were uncertain about the joke status).

Giving out smerits remains in the eyes of the beholder, so I doubt that we should consider such discretionary choices to send smerits to be wasted.

Just from the nature of this particular joke, it seems quite plausible that Theymos has been giving considerable thought to how the merit system is playing out, yet I could not imagine tweaking the merit system too early in regards to whether too much waste is occurring due to the fact that some members receive a lot of merits, but they might not be in the practice of sending out the generated smerits (that smerits generate at .5 from the receipt of merits).  It could take 6 months or more to figure out if there should be some kind of incentive to spend smerits (or punishment for not spending smerits).
18789  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 02, 2018, 06:03:56 AM
Shit how did btctalk know how many coins I had? Must be running some badass analytics.

Wait a minute... JayGuanGee: Politeness: 2280... hahahahahaha



From the way, Theymos explained the algorithm here, there seems to be a certain advantage with both wordiness and number of posts, because the more words and posts, then the more points users would get from some of the target words.
18790  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 01, 2018, 09:42:15 PM
The good news is that the Sun will come out.........just not tomorrow, and I will bet my bottom dollar. I would be a heavy buyer around April 6th, and again mid-May. And early 2019.

P.S. this chart is from the future, your results may vary.

[https://s18.postimg.org/qsf1exrw9/The_sun_will_come_out.png[/img]

Yes.... Results do happen to vary..... Results especially vary from your random predictions. 

I thought that you would have given up after your stupid-ass March 5 fiasco'ed attempt at sorcerer status?

Oh?  I forgot.  The practice of a wanna-be sorcerer is merely to keep making spectacular predictions, and sooner or later one of those predictions will happen to come true.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Pot-Kettle argument:

Most of your posts are worth very little because when you attempt to make predictions you want to play both sides of down/up that the post ends up being meaningless drivel; much akin to the statement "a coin flip could produce either a heads up or a tails up"


I'm not going to quote any of your bs posts here because you posting them once was too much already

 Cry Sad Shocked Wink Cheesy Grin Roll Eyes

The March 5th thing was a Bazinga!......I sodled before Cinco de Marzo

You are pretty disingenuous telling everyone to buy before March 5.. .and then supposedly doing the opposite.  

Don't be comparing me to you in these regards.   Roll Eyes

Furthermore there is a bit of a problem with always wanting to be right.  Sure, I do a similar thing in terms of predicting probabilities to suggest probabilities for both up and down that frequently border on 50/50 or 60/40 if I am feeling confident, so in that regard, I am never really wrong, but that is not nearly in the same ballpark as the thing that you are doing in terms of making much more certain predictions and attempts at trolling sorcery that are ambiguous enough so you can always assert that you were correct.
18791  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 31, 2018, 12:32:27 PM
Seems like we have a bitcoin dilemma going on, no?

18792  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: March 31, 2018, 08:58:17 AM
I just realized that I would be able to use my sMerits to add Merits to my account. I didn't go through with it, I just clicked on +Merit to see if I'd get some kind of "you can't" error, but I didn't. I don't intend to do it, as I think it doesn't make much of a sense. I assume this might have been discussed before, any reason why it has been thought this way? Thank you.

It is likely that you did not take your effort to merit yourself far enough.

If you do attempt to merit yourself, you will get this message: 

"An Error Has Occurred!
You cannot send merit to yourself." 

 I know this to be the case, because in the interest of science, I just attempted this merit sending upon myself, and I got the above message.
18793  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 31, 2018, 04:59:49 AM
I'm with Hairy on this one. Volume is too wimpy yet. Saturday night might be ugly, uglier than many of us think.

A few posters have been busy setting up a doom scenario for this weekend. I think it's a ruse
Doomed is who doomed does.
Ugly or very ugly does not necessarily mean doom.


We need to learn to love and trust the bear.




Reminds me about this flexible and fun bear.

18794  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 31, 2018, 04:42:34 AM
The good news is that the Sun will come out.........just not tomorrow, and I will bet my bottom dollar. I would be a heavy buyer around April 6th, and again mid-May. And early 2019.

P.S. this chart is from the future, your results may vary.

[https://s18.postimg.org/qsf1exrw9/The_sun_will_come_out.png[/img]

Yes.... Results do happen to vary..... Results especially vary from your random predictions. 

I thought that you would have given up after your stupid-ass March 5 fiasco'ed attempt at sorcerer status?

Oh?  I forgot.  The practice of a wanna-be sorcerer is merely to keep making spectacular predictions, and sooner or later one of those predictions will happen to come true.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
18795  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 31, 2018, 04:36:35 AM
Been here 5 years next week.
Yes, very new.
Idiot.

It takes something quite special to be here five years and still be a newb.

Sold my coins at $500  each.
I feel ill.
 Embarrassed


Could not help myself but to merit your post to put tonyq dweeb into perspective.   Seems that stupid ass does not have a much, if any, of a bitcoin understanding nor vision.
18796  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 31, 2018, 04:21:20 AM
Why is it that  hardly anybody here other than myself and a couple of others will admit the show's over?
I know it's hard to accept but it's true.
Dark forces pushed it up to its heights  in order to be able to obliterate it.
Not just Bitcoin....all digital currencies.
You are seeing it with your own eyes but sill won't acknowledge it!
 Huh

You must be new here.

Been here 5 years next week.
Yes, very new.
Idiot.


Hahahahahahaha

Looks like dormant account... only used to spread FUD.. at appropriate (perhaps desperate?) times.    Tongue Tongue    Roll Eyes
18797  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 31, 2018, 04:16:30 AM

Me too!

Grab your bowl of gruel and CCMF!   Smiley

BTC $6666   WTF?HuhHuh

"Cut your loose" is a good one, too.  Wink Cheesy
18798  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 31, 2018, 04:10:05 AM
Bitcoin price $6650 and falling.
..........

the more the dump = the better the jump

Just hodl. Wink


Agree, but I would add :

1. Be prepared to see much lower prices. It is possible, but not certain.

2.  Sell enough to make you less fearful of a big drop  (irrespective of your cost level)


I would frame that #2 a bit differently.

Sell enough in order that you are able to be prepared to buy BTC back on the way down to whatever extreme price point that you believe BTC prices will go.  Furthermore, acknowledge that the main reason that you are selling any BTC right now is because you fucked up and you had not sold enough at higher price points to prepare for this current situation that, even though feels extreme, was completely foreseeable, and extreme conditions of further price drops may or may not result in further downward BTC price movements from here (so you may well be selling at the bottom of this dip) and that you will try harder NOT to fuck up so much again.
18799  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 31, 2018, 02:47:24 AM
This start of the year was bad.


Huh?

How could have the start of the year been bad, unless you started investing at that time?  You seem to be talking arbitrarily when you pick a high price point as your starting point?  I recall that Jorge Stofli used to do that all the fucking time.  Throughout a decent period of 2014 and even into 2015, he would talk about bitcoin's history as if the whole of bitcoin started from November 2013 - which is ridiculous.

In the first nearly 3 weeks of this calendar year, BTC prices were bouncing between about $12k and $17k.   Of course, BTC prices have not returned to those levels, so ifyou started buying in the beginning of this year, then maybe you are going to feel a bit nervous and underwater. 

However, if you had been buying any time before December 2017, you are likely going to feel a bit more comfortable, even though anyone who started investing in bitcoin in the past six months, might still be feeling somewhat uncomfortable, because they are still just getting used to bitcoin and having had experienced a lot of BTC price volatility in the past 6 months.

I cannot really call the beginning of this year as a bad thing, if you consider the beginning of the year in context, and I suppose the beginning of this year could be considered as starting at a handicap..., perhaps?
18800  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 30, 2018, 03:43:55 AM
Your stupid ass silly twat cannot even recognize that I agree with a lot of what you say, except your stupid-ass devolutions into concepts that all of this has been preplanned.  In that regard, I am not asserting that I know everything, but instead that you have some issues with your ideas, and your sensitivities, and desires to campaign against me show more about your own insecurities rather than any kind of solidity in your conspiracy assertions.  So yeah, perhaps, I need to eye roll a little stronger because my substantive points (criticisms of your assertions) don't seem to be sinking in to your flower sensitivities.   Tongue

What the fk did he even say?

Can anyone translate rambling stupid?

Don't act dumb.  You act like you cannot defend yourselfie, and you are calling for help... you little twat..

Please, please someone help me against the BIG MEANIE because I cannot help myself?

How pathetic.

I am not even saying anything that should be considered as very offensive to you, and it is largely substantively saying that you are too full of conspiracy focuses.... You should be able to fix or to back up your conspiratorial viewpoint, no?   Am I repeating myselfie?

Seems to me that you, Torque-ie porkie, are way too sensitive to deal with the content of the interwebs.




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