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1881  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 12, 2017, 12:50:05 PM

Interesting view, specially the 7 steps in a market cycle that Chris Dunn talks about and which can apply to any cryptocurrency...I strongly advice newbees that are relatively new to cryptocurrencies to watch it.

He's cited exactly the same 3 bubbles as I noticed last night in a post I made on the Wall Observer thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg17475939#msg17475939
1882  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 12, 2017, 12:39:29 PM

The 12-hour market momentum chart for the world's only fully fungible transparent blockchain dual layer protocol asset just went positive.
1883  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 12, 2017, 11:02:45 AM

Chutes deployed ?
1884  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 12, 2017, 10:31:07 AM

The 6-hour market momentum chart for the world's only fully fungible transparent blockchain dual layer protocol asset just went positive.
1885  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 12, 2017, 01:22:00 AM

Latest Bill Holter doom porn.

Maybe that'll improve things Wink
1886  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 12, 2017, 01:15:42 AM

Look at this. What self-preserving trader gets out of a market like that at a right angle ?

They must need the coins.


1887  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 12, 2017, 01:04:29 AM

You are way too premature with an assessment that the bullrun is done

+1

People must stay calm and monitor events.
1888  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 12, 2017, 12:56:02 AM
We may have bubbled out of control a bit and that had to correct,
But we've definitely overshot the bottom by a bunch

Well I sure as hell can't be bothered to wait another 3 years for things to get back to bullish. In Jan 2014 I thought it might take 6 weeks  Roll Eyes

I'd be quicker learning the violin to concert standard for kicks.

At least there's some developments in fundamentals around the corner. (But then again, Overstock adopted Bitcoin in 2014 and it just kept tanking).
1889  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 12, 2017, 12:17:45 AM

PBOC still seems to have alot of power in cryptoland. "Ban Bitcoin!" Still works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry6PpRXk0dQ
1890  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2017, 11:46:16 PM

Here's a close-up of that "propellor" correction pattern I was referring to earlier.

2 of them compared. Now go back and see them in context of that other big chart and a somewhat informative picture starts to emerge.



1891  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2017, 11:17:12 PM

after the last big run-up&crash in nov. 2013 it took 14 months to fall even below prior ath. and that was including the mtgox desaster....someone is trying to ruin trust in bitcoin BIGTIME

I previously thought that too but I've slightly changed my mind about this.

The 2013 bubble was a single huge run-up where the bubble burst and turned immediately into a long term bear market.

That's not happening this time.

For a start, the current "run-up" has lasted 18 months so far and has been much more sedate. It started mid-2015 off $200. There have been periodic bubbles which burst (see chart above) but unlike the 2013 spike, none of them have reversed the trend so far and having made that observation above I now have no reason to believe that this one will either. It seems to have bottom-spiked just at the right place to be consistent with previous "overheat conditions".

If it really starts to dig in past the previous spike (i.e., say in the 4000 CNY range) then I'll have to change my view obviously.

So I think the reason that it's only taken 1 week to fall below the previous spike is simply because it has far less distance to go since the growth is more natural and sustainable this time.

P.S. You can see the Huobi traders - they've taken it very quickly and confidently down to 5200 CNY but they appear scared to short it beyond that point because that would be defying the underlying trend and expose themselves to serious risk of having their shorts fried for breakfast. Lets see what happens over the next 10 days if it springs back up to the propeller "nose" or not with covering.
1892  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2017, 10:02:13 PM

So basically you are calling bottom. Correct?

Well according to this analysis the bottom is around 5200, with a sharp retrace back up to the propellor "nose" which would be around 6700 CNY (~$900-$950 dollars), followed by a slow retrace back down to half the lower propellor blade (5900 CNY = $750) and then starting the next bubble from there which may go to $2000 by July.

Of course, that's just according to this analysis. You need to look at several different perspectives to get a fuller picture of the possibilities because there's no telling if this pattern will be broken or not.

It's one theory = we can follow it and see.
1893  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2017, 09:40:51 PM

Hey, I've just noticed a pattern that this crash fits into, but it's only visible at very long range. (You need a big screen preferably to see this - pull the browser page out wide if you can to grow the image to full size. Sorry I couldn't get the pattern very visible at small scale).

This correction may not be as bearish as we think and seems to fall into a "family" of profit taking moves associated with the rise that started back around July 2015.

It appears that every 7-8 months (every 4-5 months earlier in the rise) there's a big profit take like this which always happens at the top of a spike when the market gets ahead of itself. (I call them "propellor corrections" because they look like an aircraft propellor from side on since the price corrects to about the same distance below the trend line as the 'overheat' got above it). All the same there's a longer, underlying trend where the upwards revaluation grows steadily steeper, even despite these crashes along the way.

When the pressure-relief gasket blows on these bubbles it always corrects to just below the top of the previous propellor pattern. Same every time but increasing in size. Then there's a period of consolidation, followed by a slow rise, then steep rise and another gasket-blow.

Each time the correction gets bigger, but it still seems to stick to the rule of dropping to just below the last spike so that the growth trend isn't broken. I now think I'm not the only one to have noticed this and that big players are actively trading this pattern, watching for the overheat-spike and knowing exactly when to profit take, driving that bubble into full temporary reverse with shorts for maximum profit. But they also must know how far to take it because the last spike gives the reference level.

This one was perfectly timed - 7 months exactly.

Judging by its size and perfectly placed timing, we could be in for a very big rise over the next 8 months if the long term trend continues because the vertical distance between each "overheat" phase increases each time by about 60% to 70%.

Just sayin. Context is everything Wink

1894  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2017, 06:38:31 PM


This is why I'm not too worried about the crash.

It isn't 2013 anymore. The challenges we are seeing from PBOC / manipulation / whatever are just part of growing up. Expect more. Like I said - the more knocks it takes the less harm they do.
1895  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2017, 06:14:20 PM

I've been wondering about those huge gaps between the Huobi price and the rest of the market during the last month.

Ominously relevant observation from the past. Listen carefully  Wink

1896  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2017, 05:52:48 PM

Get ready for the "temporary halt on withdrawals while we fix a technical glitch" notices followed by Scottish guys pitching their tents up around Exchange HQ with "give us our bitcoin back" plackards around their necks  Cheesy
1897  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2017, 05:46:18 PM

The next 2minutes are critical.

rotfwl !  Cheesy
1898  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2017, 05:43:35 PM

Remember - we don't know what's going on here. We don't know if it's real bitcoin that's being traded or not.

If you run an exchange it's a peice of cake to set yourself up a few hundred fake accounts, populate them with either BTC or Fiat "fake balances" and manipulate the price to kingdom come.

We don't know what the real supply/demand situation is. (In particular the "supply" bit).
1899  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2017, 05:30:57 PM

It's the exchanges that are doing it themselves IMO.

Look at Bitstamp - barely moves in comparison. The Chinese exchanges must be short of bitcoin to back their registered deposits. The Gox fingerprint is there. Vertical drop-offs from nowhere and high volume buybacks at the base of each.

Could off-course be regular shorting but the extremity of it suggests otherwise to me. (Well I'm watching Huobi - don't know about the other ones).
1900  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2017, 05:18:46 PM

Lets see what happens when people start trying to make withdrawals.
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