Never liked Eth once they did the fork to roll back the huge theft It got 2 coins stuck in a wallet I have on a mac mini.
I have never been able to get the wallet to synch. It simply reaches the fork date and freezes. Even with a 2tb ssd it wont go past that point.
Never got a good solution for it. I email and pm'd them there were 3 or 4 of us with the issuse one guy had 6 coins stuck another had 11.
So I simply gave up on the coin. When it got over 1000 I spent days trying to free the wallet up and simply a no go.
Now it is around 287.50 so I pretty much think it will tank to under 200 soon.
Hi phill If you have you keystore file you can unlock your wallet via myetherwallet and then move your coin I have 2 or 3 hdds cloned. I ran into trouble with this because I used eth core wallet on a mac mini and I had to try it in mac os. when it happened it was 2 coins at 10 bucks each. I did 3 or 4 fixes all a no go. Said fuck it. two or three days lost. When it was over 1 k I spent more then 10 days and after many tries I said f it. At this point I am not even sure I could find the correct wallet/ core on the right back up hdd. So as far as I am concerned Eth owes me 2k since I really worked at it back then trying to free the wallet. I know I would have cashed out if I freed the coins So their decision to do the fix of the flaw/dao ripoff cost me money. So I kind of root against the coin as I know the developers are not going to fix my issue which they caused . I supposed if they did not do what they did I would have not let the coins lay around and grow up to 1k . So it is not the end off the world. All you need to do is start the program and write a rawtransaction and use a block explorer like Etherchain and just post the transaction. I had to do this also because the chain was very long and even after buying an SSD, I couldn't get it to sync. You just start it, unlock your wallet, write a raw transaction and then take that hash and broadcast it using any of the ethereum block explorer. If you need help... let me know. I need to track down the stored hdd's if and when I find them I will let you know. |
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I want them soon as possible.
I need some space heaters.
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Well I would like it on a t2turbo
24th 1 unit quiet and say 90 watts a th.
that would be a nice piece of gear.
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Never liked Eth once they did the fork to roll back the huge theft It got 2 coins stuck in a wallet I have on a mac mini.
I have never been able to get the wallet to synch. It simply reaches the fork date and freezes. Even with a 2tb ssd it wont go past that point.
Never got a good solution for it. I email and pm'd them there were 3 or 4 of us with the issuse one guy had 6 coins stuck another had 11.
So I simply gave up on the coin. When it got over 1000 I spent days trying to free the wallet up and simply a no go.
Now it is around 287.50 so I pretty much think it will tank to under 200 soon.
Hi phill If you have you keystore file you can unlock your wallet via myetherwallet and then move your coin I have 2 or 3 hdds cloned. I ran into trouble with this because I used eth core wallet on a mac mini and I had to try it in mac os. when it happened it was 2 coins at 10 bucks each. I did 3 or 4 fixes all a no go. Said fuck it. two or three days lost. When it was over 1 k I spent more then 10 days and after many tries I said f it. At this point I am not even sure I could find the correct wallet/ core on the right back up hdd. So as far as I am concerned Eth owes me 2k since I really worked at it back then trying to free the wallet. I know I would have cashed out if I freed the coins So their decision to do the fix of the flaw/dao ripoff cost me money. So I kind of root against the coin as I know the developers are not going to fix my issue which they caused . I supposed if they did not do what they did I would have not let the coins lay around and grow up to 1k . So it is not the end off the world. |
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So 860 for 1160 is 1.3488 a mh
the L3+ with voltage mod from jstefanop does.
490 for 700 or 1.4285 a mh
with out mod it does
500 for 800 or 1.600 a mh
So a few things are possible here a voltage mod that drops gear to
850 mh for 1020 watts or 1.2 watts a mh
or maybe a chip deal for Moonlander 3's
I would be interested in tweaking the new miner to get more efficient then
1.3488 watts a mh
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Might be S3 endplates for the fans, but it's S7 or S9 hashboards in the boxes. But hey, at least they tried to build a real-world machine to scam around instead of relying on stolen renders like most scammers. Shows a bit of initiative.
They have a mine to our pool requirement which I think means that they see your miner and add some hash to it to "show" the good stats. This seems to be exactly what the water-cooled asicminer 40th at 2100 watt machine may be doing. this is a thread on the asicminer 8 nano 40th 2100 watt miner. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4931395.msg44434150#msg44434150it does this point miner to a special server site which then point to a pool of your choice. so a fraud can be done by simply making the 'fake' miner with 4th and 2100 watts go to their server then add 36th so the pool of your choice says you are mining 40th and your meter reads 2100 watts. This gear may also do this. Since it must point to their pool. Pretty clever as it would show you 110th at the pool . This may be the new fraud faking hash rate to trick a guy with money to spend. |
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going to try new software today. I will post back.
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All this means is we wont see those dumb mining GPU's without display ports.... so who cares.
which is actually a good thing, now manufactures have no reason to reduce warranty time. well they might create bullshit around just to reduce it. they have nothing that can prove if a gpu was mining or used for gaming. Not quite sure why everyone keeps going on about the warranty. I may be wrong, but as far as i understand, If the product is sold in EUROPE, the manufacturer HAS to back a full 12 months warranty, so long as the product has not been tampered with (which would include overclocking, but not factory overclock). So basically, they have to either repair or replace the card, otherwise it could not be sold in EUROPE as it would not be fit for purpose.... If you look at easycryptohunter for example, they are a UK company specializing in mining rigs, and all their rigs come with 12 months warranty. I'm guessing it may be different in other parts of the world...don't know when I buy a 1080ti from evga it has a 3 year warranty. and I don't have a lot of cheap power but I have some. so a 3 year warranty = big value for me. |
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Never liked Eth once they did the fork to roll back the huge theft It got 2 coins stuck in a wallet I have on a mac mini.
I have never been able to get the wallet to synch. It simply reaches the fork date and freezes. Even with a 2tb ssd it wont go past that point.
Never got a good solution for it. I email and pm'd them there were 3 or 4 of us with the issuse one guy had 6 coins stuck another had 11.
So I simply gave up on the coin. When it got over 1000 I spent days trying to free the wallet up and simply a no go.
Now it is around 287.50 so I pretty much think it will tank to under 200 soon.
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I asked for it to be moved to alt coins. so right now cn7 is going to be forked and in theory you gear will drop 4x of its speed. you are asking 25000 for it. my guess is you saw the fork coming and want to move this out asap. Since it is the developers of monero that say they will hurt fpgas 4x not me do you have a plan if this happens? The actual devs explain it much better: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/4218" @SChernykh Contributor SChernykh commented 24 days ago New ASICs will also be many times slower because of the nature of these changes. @SChernykh Fixed armv7 build ed62058 @SChernykh Contributor SChernykh commented 24 days ago Well, that depends on ASIC implementation. We don't know for sure how their internals work. But according to a lot of scientific papers about hardware implementations of division and square root - yes, looks like 16x times slower." and "@MoneroCrusher MoneroCrusher commented 23 days ago So practically & effectively this makes FPGAs 4x slower, making them much worse in terms of $/hash (see Xilinx FPGA, 22 kH/s CN7 for 4-5k$) than GPUs and ASICs 16x slower still being better than GPUs in terms of production cost/hash but they'll be useless within a couple months and not break even. So this makes GPUs & CPUs the best thing to mine with, if Monero keeps the strict 6 months fork schedule. Is this correct? @SChernykh Contributor SChernykh commented 23 days ago Yes, it's correct. At least 4 times slowdown compared to Cryptonight v1 for all kinds of ASIC/FPGA." Me below so even if asics are made they will be 16x slower and fpga's once programmed will be 4x slower these are the actual developers words not mine So if they are correct monero should have legs here it could be your gear loses a ton of value. this was lifted from my alt coin thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3843565.msg44771016#msg44771016 |
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Seems there are many who believe in the technology and are just mining at a loss just to get some BTC.
... ... ... ... I've re-read Phil's post about 5 times and it honestly doesn't make much sense (literally and financially). Yes, spending on electricity will lower your tax liability on what you mined. But only to the tune of 33% (or insert your tax rate here). Maybe I have a different definition of mining at a loss, but I define it as spending more on mining than what you are earning, I.E. The money you spent could have instead been spent on buying the coins outright with the results of more coins. Or in other terms, instead of pumping $10 in the claw machine to win the stuffed animal, you could have bought 2 stuffed animals for $10. If you are mining, then you pay taxes on everything you mine. But if you mine and hold, and the currency goes up, then you are still paying capital gains taxes, no different than buying it outright. Lets make coins = to 1000 usd example 1 I made 5000 profit on mining this year, I spent 5000 on machines I spent 5000 on power I mined 15000 in coins profit = 15000 - 10000 = 5000 I owe tax on 5000 33% tax of 1667 rest of the year I spend 4 k power and earn 3 k in coins loss of 1000 net 4000 gain 33% tax of 1333 in both cases I hodl the coins mined I would have 18 coins if they where 1000 each So I spent 4k what happened this year I lowered my tax bill by 333second example I made 5000 profit on mining this year, I spent 5000 on machines I spent 5000 on power I mined 15000 in coins profit = 15000 - 10000 = 5000 I owe tax on 5000 33% tax of 1667 I spend 4k and buy 4k in coins I have 15 coins then 4 coins or 19 coins but I owe 1667 in tax not 1333. end of year that is 333 or 334 loser. but I have 18 coins in example 1 I have 19 coins in example 2 As long as I hodl them example 2 cost me 333 more the example 1 So if those 1000 coins drop to 332 or lower example 1 is the winner. and example 2 is the loser since the plan is to hodl for 5 to 10 years. example 1 has me 333 ahead of example 2 as long as I hodl. If you read the long thread above I did say I can't justify years and years of mining at a loss. But with planning I can mine at a loss from now until December 2017 In fact to explain a bit more I am 333 or 334 ahead in cash for 2018 I am 18 coins vs 19 coins. In 2019 december I sell 1 coin in both examples. so I am 333/334 ahead in cash for 2018 in 2019 I am even as I sold 1 coin in both examples and my coins are 17 and 18 sell 1 coin in 2021 2023 2025 2027 even all those years. coins are 13 and 14 I am still yet to see the real loss sell 1 coin in 2030 2033 2036 even all those year. coins are 10 and 11 I am still yet to see the real loss sell 2 coins in 2037 2039 2041 2043 even all those years coins are 2 and 3 I am still yet to see the real loss sell a coin in 2044 2047 even all this years and I now am 90 years old. 0 coins left in example 1 1 coin left in example 2 and still yet to suffer the loss as I did not sell that coin so for 29 years I am 333 usd ahead. and in year 30 I fall behind by the value of 1 coin only if I sell it. |
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I think what he's saying is, if you have 0.3BTC and $2k, you could buy another 0.3BTC with that $2k or buy a miner which, over the next two years, will mine you about 0.2BTC. End result being, if you want more BTC you're better off buying BTC than this miner. Especially if you're looking for a boom in BTC pricing, since with booms come higher diffs which means a lower reward. 0.6BTC now is better than 0.5BTC in two years because 0.6BTC now can *still be* 0.6BTC in two years, guaranteed, while that 0.5BTC is a speculative best-case.
If you're planning on electric radiant heat in floors or a pool, this miner might be a good investment. But if BTC is your primary goal, I can't envision a situation where this machine is worth buying.
but he is wrong since the reality is I am using cash not btc to buy the miner. The fact that I buy whatever in btc and don't hold the btc has nothing to do with my hodl btc. He fails to separate and understand he is using cash and btc has nothing to do with the purchase. Other then as an envelope to deliver the cash to bitmain. He fails to understand that buying gear and mining is a completely different animal then buying coin and holding. huge issue for me. He fails to understand that a 45gb miner has $$$ to some as a good space heater. Myself I can't use this as they lack efficiency of the T2Turbo and cost 2x that of the standard s9. |
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You would be far better off to stay SMALL and quiet. and private..under the radar and serve/help only yourself.
The cheap electricity is only blood in the water that attracts big bad hungry remorseless sharks
if you do 10 s-9's at 3 cent power you clear 20 dollars a day 10 s9's with psu's are about 475 each if you have a coupon so 4750 / 20 = 237 days to break even. not much to lose only 4750 plus setup cost for 10 miners. so 100 miners means 47500 / 200 = 237 days to break even but you now have enough gear to be robbed 700 miners means 1 mega watt 1400 a day and same 237 days to break even. But you are truly worth robbing and a nice target to shoot at. If you feel lucky go for it. |
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So you are saying buying a miner for 0,22 BTC that DOES NOT make 0,17 BTC within 2 years is a great investment? Well, this is where I pass... I will NOT buy any miner if the amount of BTC (or BCH, LTC or ETH) is -lower- then the BTC, BCH, LTC, ETH I allready own. Sorry, but it the most stupid thing you can do with your Cryptoś right now... Investing and not gainging the amount of BTC you pay  Maybe I am stupid, but I don't get that. Be me guest, if bringing your BTC to lower numbers then you allready own is your goal. what does it have to do with btc. I have 2000 usd I have .3 btc I buy btc with the 2000 usd. and buy the miner. my btc stays the same. .3 btc my cash drops. |
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Nvidia was mining alt coins not bitcoins.
I never saw or read about a sha 256 nvidia miner.
So this belongs in alt coins
not in bitcoin.
My thoughts are Nvidia fucked up big time.
They are now tossing bs around to cover for their decision to produce mining only cards.
Gpu mining will survive and a clever development team will build an algo that nvidia is clearly superior then amd.
They will promise fork and fork and fork.
They will open with a bang and nvidia cards will mine on.
Read how monero handles its algo nvidia should do the same.
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I need to do a video here is video Your video will be live at: https://youtu.be/_bet2aRAhvwit needs time to down load and publish it does about 501 mhs you can see it earn 21.8 coins my meter reads 262 watts with it mining my meter read 241 watts with 12 v dc power removed so 21 watts for this algo xdag.exe -m 1 -d 142.44.143.234:777  |
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http://ckpool.org/blocks/[PARENTDIR] Parent Directory -
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Apache/2.4.10 (Debian) Server at ckpool.org that is full stats on every one we made. go to the link click a block and go to the bottom line the diff is there for each one. our latest one is right below http://ckpool.org/blocks/538630.confirmed{
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"fee": 0.0,
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NOTE I skipped many but look at the bottom
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"solvedby": "3QRZahE19MNqGFfgHZngUzGFVrmgkrFeuX",
"date": "[2018-08-27 00:01:01.936]",
"hash": "0000000000000000000dd607a82af4ddddaa84287839bcd255532418cdfd9ee3",
"shares": 778980388168,
"diff": 11.6 <<<< And there is the magic number
}
Where do you get those stats? Three is a record for us, at least since I've been here. I'll have a beerwhiskeywinescotchburbon to go with this triple block steak dinner.
Well trips it was for Sunday. Not bad. Maybe we do triple trips %? Sunday 3 Monday 3 Tues 3 this will have us under 100 For aug we did 11.6 6.1 149.1 61.7 1.2 53.1 116.3 7.6 220.2 165.4 70.3 166.1 174.2 5.0 178.6 247.8 4.9 47.8 92.1 9.1 1788.2 total for 20 blocks that is a 89.41 run very good
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Yeah that's nice. Hey question, how many chips are there per board?
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Why is it questions like this are posted by newbies 90% of the time. I sent them an email to see what they are about. I am willing to see if they send me a demo as proof of concept. Until they reply I suggest no one buy from them.  |
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Won't have a significant effect, doesn't take any longer to rewrite the program for a FPGA than it does for a CPU or a GPU.
In fact, the only "drop" will be from miners that don't get updated in time for the fork I'm CERTAIN.
I believe the changes to the algo are supposed to target the differences in architecture directly and cause massive slowdowns on FPGAs We've seen this song and dance before - the whole point to a FPGA is that it can be reconfigured, so pointing at "the difference in architecture" is a meaningless statement. I don't see them being ABLE to keep FPGA's at low performance for long it at all since a FPGA is MORE configurable than any GPU. The actual devs explain it much better: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/4218" @SChernykh Contributor SChernykh commented 24 days ago New ASICs will also be many times slower because of the nature of these changes. @SChernykh Fixed armv7 build ed62058 @SChernykh Contributor SChernykh commented 24 days ago Well, that depends on ASIC implementation. We don't know for sure how their internals work. But according to a lot of scientific papers about hardware implementations of division and square root - yes, looks like 16x times slower." and "@MoneroCrusher MoneroCrusher commented 23 days ago So practically & effectively this makes FPGAs 4x slower, making them much worse in terms of $/hash (see Xilinx FPGA, 22 kH/s CN7 for 4-5k$) than GPUs and ASICs 16x slower still being better than GPUs in terms of production cost/hash but they'll be useless within a couple months and not break even. So this makes GPUs & CPUs the best thing to mine with, if Monero keeps the strict 6 months fork schedule. Is this correct? @SChernykh Contributor SChernykh commented 23 days ago Yes, it's correct. At least 4 times slowdown compared to Cryptonight v1 for all kinds of ASIC/FPGA." so even if asics are made they will be 16x slower and fpga's once programmed will be 4x slower these are the actual developers words not mine So if they are correct monero should have legs here it could be worth a buy and hold or at least mine and hold. |
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