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1921  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - NEMstake Tokens Listed on NXT Asset Exchange on: June 16, 2014, 06:26:38 PM
patmast3r, any news on when you're gonna send stakes again ? i have sent you a pm with the tx id and the nxt account number

thanx

I'm sending assets out in batches. I've tried issueing assets as soon as i receive the fee but I just can't keep up with the PMs. Sorry but I'm only human.

I'm guessing the next batch will be issued this weekend latest maybe earlier.

Looking at the list everything is fine for you and you'll be issued your asset with the next batch.

As a gernal rule: If I don't come back with questions or instructions everything is fine Smiley
1922  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - NEMstake Tokens Listed on NXT Asset Exchange on: June 16, 2014, 12:32:30 PM
Are the actual NEM coins being issued now or is this still about tokens?

It's about assets.


Sorry, haven't followed the NEM threads closely and not familiar with all the lingo - by assets, you mean the tokens representing ownership of the coins, and not the actual coins themselves?

That's correct. This is just supposed to give users the ability to trade before launch on the one hand and to give them a sense of security on the other.


All clear - many thanks for the quick response. Is there any more clarity about when the actual coins are likely to be available and what the process will be for claiming them?

We're currently in closed alpha so it'll take a few more months before we launch.
There is no word yet on how exactly the process of claiming will work.
1923  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - NEMstake Tokens Listed on NXT Asset Exchange on: June 16, 2014, 12:14:22 PM
Are the actual NEM coins being issued now or is this still about tokens?

It's about assets.


Sorry, haven't followed the NEM threads closely and not familiar with all the lingo - by assets, you mean the tokens representing ownership of the coins, and not the actual coins themselves?

That's correct. This is just supposed to give users the ability to trade before launch on the one hand and to give them a sense of security on the other.
1924  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - NEMstake Tokens Listed on NXT Asset Exchange on: June 16, 2014, 12:01:56 PM
Are the actual NEM coins being issued now or is this still about tokens?

It's about assets.
1925  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - NEMstake Tokens Listed on NXT Asset Exchange on: June 16, 2014, 11:12:34 AM
PLZ PAY THE 1 NXT TX FEE FROM THE NXT-ACCOUNT YOU WANT THE ASSET TO BE ISSUED TO!
1926  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread {Updates & Discussion} on: June 16, 2014, 10:52:41 AM


Our designer for NCC has gone with a green/orange look. It is what is used in the investor's handout: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=640772.0
looking sweet! Smiley very professional! well done to the designer(taumon i think isnt it?)!

Designer for NCC is LoiTran.
1927  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - Refund/Account Change Requests & Complaints on: June 16, 2014, 10:51:46 AM
...some bs...

Sure. You don't get it so it has to be a scam right ?
1928  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread {Updates & Discussion} on: June 16, 2014, 08:39:51 AM
news.nemcoin.com looks really promising !
Good job TauMon !

I could see that greyish-blue being part of our branding. It's really pleasing to the eye imho.

I think you have the wrong guy, it's made by crackerhead, right?

Great work crackerhead, though I would still change the colors a bit.  Grin

I agree that the color needs a bit of changing. I would go for a whitish/grey plain background. Need to establish some working parameters, i.e., need to agree on the logo and then go for a color scheme that blends in well with the color of the logo.


Our designer for NCC has gone with a green/orange look. It is what is used in the investor's handout: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=640772.0

Yeah it'd be cool to try the orange-green theme on the news page. I'd be interested to see how that looks.
1929  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread {Updates & Discussion} on: June 16, 2014, 07:07:08 AM
news.nemcoin.com looks really promising !
Good job TauMon !

I could see that greyish-blue being part of our branding. It's really pleasing to the eye imho.
1930  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - NEMstake Tokens Listed on NXT Asset Exchange on: June 16, 2014, 06:59:34 AM
You can get in by buying stakes on the AE
There will also be an auction but there's no definitive date for that yet.

Our communications got messed up by our former head leaving and locking all threads. However the informations were still all available. Even with the best communication you still have to read.

Every section I read, the thread had been moved somewhere else. I could count at least 4 threads Ive visited today.

There are exactly 3 official threads. 1 for discussion, 1 for the assets and 1 for complaints and refunds. That's it.

Need to find somebody to fill in Utopianfuture's role, This is getting complicated.

anyone requesting information about claiming tokens on nxt AE can contact me for general info/help! might lighten the load on pat.

@pat

whats the story with requesting 1 nxt to be sent to you to claim? is it purely to cover the cost of tx fees? il send you a 100 or so nxt to cover some if it saves the hasle of having to request 1 nxt (which is a pain if you ask me)

Hi kodtycoon and thx for helping with this.

It is not 100% to cover the fees but also to have 2 things.

1 it's proof inside the blockchain that the user wants the asset to be issued to the address the fee came from (so people can't blame me for issueing to the wron address or something)

2 it's kind of book-keeping of request and issueance besides the PMs.

Plz send me a pm with your address and I'll send you back your 100 NXT as I can't take them Smiley
1931  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread {Updates & Discussion} on: June 15, 2014, 08:44:25 AM

And this is only one reason why bitcoin needs to be replaced.

yup. i got into crypto's late last year, but from my analysis i deemed bitcoin and PoW a bigger risk than anything else. Proof of Stake was a nice alternative but Nxt's launch and ipo was less than ideal. pos also poses its own problems, namely that of whales and hording.

this is why NEM intrigues me the most - the proof of importance (that i prefer to call proof of interest) if, comes to fruitition, will really cause a stir the crypto world needs. we need to encourage spending, not hording; POI is (so far) the best bet for this. this really CANNOT be understated and for the sake of NEMs longevity it would be good if we think of ways to enhance the POI method to better accomplish this.

The money needs to keep flowing and moving to make a currency viable. FIAT accomplishes it by printing that leads to inflation/deflation with all the associated dire risks.

POI will definitely be further improved not only with the data collected from the alpha but also with maybe new ideas like making PON a bigger factor.
I'm really looking forward to the data analysis that I'm sure will happen with data from the open alpha. POI needs to be tested to be finished. Finding the right balanca can only happen if we collect as much data as possible.
1932  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread {Updates & Discussion} on: June 15, 2014, 08:10:37 AM

And this is only one reason why bitcoin needs to be replaced.
1933  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - NEMstake Tokens Listed on NXT Asset Exchange on: June 15, 2014, 08:09:42 AM
YOU NEED TO BE A NEM STAKEHOLDER TO BE ISSUED A STAKE! WE ARE NOT SELLING STAKES FOR 1 NXT PEOPLE !

I can't refund you if you send 1 NXT as a fee and are not a stakeholder. I don't have enough NXT since many people seem to make that mistake...which is baffling.

To be honest, your communications haven't been the best, the threads are all over the place and no one knows what the hell is going on. Including myself.

Is it too late to get in what is the go?

You can get in by buying stakes on the AE
There will also be an auction but there's no definitive date for that yet.

Our communications got messed up by our former head leaving and locking all threads. However the informations were still all available. Even with the best communication you still have to read.

Every section I read, the thread had been moved somewhere else. I could count at least 4 threads Ive visited today.

There are exactly 3 official threads. 1 for discussion, 1 for the assets and 1 for complaints and refunds. That's it.
1934  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - NEMstake Tokens Listed on NXT Asset Exchange on: June 15, 2014, 07:58:44 AM
YOU NEED TO BE A NEM STAKEHOLDER TO BE ISSUED A STAKE! WE ARE NOT SELLING STAKES FOR 1 NXT PEOPLE !

I can't refund you if you send 1 NXT as a fee and are not a stakeholder. I don't have enough NXT since many people seem to make that mistake...which is baffling.

To be honest, your communications haven't been the best, the threads are all over the place and no one knows what the hell is going on. Including myself.

Is it too late to get in what is the go?

You can get in by buying stakes on the AE
There will also be an auction but there's no definitive date for that yet.

Our communications got messed up by our former head leaving and locking all threads. However the informations were still all available. Even with the best communication you still have to read.
1935  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread {Updates & Discussion} on: June 15, 2014, 07:56:44 AM
since the troll is sleeping let me remind you this:


hint:
1. if you have even slightest assumption someone might be a troll, please, do not quote, not even the new ones, do not get provoked.
2. use the ignore button, simple as that
3. instead of getting involved in soap opera we have a chance of getting involved in real cryptocurrency development. One shouldn't even be able to say those things in same sentence.




Can not be stressed enough. He's relentless and doesn't seem to sleep much, it's a bad combo.
Pretend he doesn't exist, and pretty soon he won't.

I'll even give this a 3rd bump on one page.

REMEMBER! PEOPLE THAT ARE QUOTING HIM AND ENGAGING IN DISCUSSION WITH THIS SUBHUMAN MORON ARE JUST AS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIM TROLLING THIS THREAD AS THE MORON HIMSELF !
1936  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM - New Economy Movement - NEMstake Tokens Listed on NXT Asset Exchange on: June 15, 2014, 07:45:51 AM
YOU NEED TO BE A NEM STAKEHOLDER TO BE ISSUED A STAKE! WE ARE NOT SELLING STAKES FOR 1 NXT PEOPLE !

I can't refund you if you send 1 NXT as a fee and are not a stakeholder. I don't have enough NXT since many people seem to make that mistake...which is baffling.
1937  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread {Updates & Discussion} on: June 14, 2014, 08:13:46 PM
25th of June oh God I can't wait!!  Grin

By the way I'd like to do some PR for NEM when it launches with my Bitcoin and crypto press release service: http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/services

I'm very busy, but who do I talk to about doing this in an official capacity?

You either talk to jaguar directly or you can pm me and I'll forward whatever you have in mind to the rest of the team Smiley
1938  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread {Updates & Discussion} on: June 14, 2014, 05:54:59 PM
IMO I think that's a bad idea. We would be manipulating the price, and for what? Just to brag about how much NEM was worth at a certain point?
It would probably also make patmasters job a living hell, with all the people that would be begging for a token.
UP is gone, but from what I remember UP wasn't that interested in putting tokens on the AE anyways, it was the community that convinced him, so I think UP not being here is kind of irrelevant in this situation.

Actually it would make my life easier. Right now i get a load of requests for tokens.
So if we would stop at 500 it would save me a load of work.
I'm however also against it. We said 1000 and unless something unexpected happens we'll stick with that.
1939  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread {Updates & Discussion} on: June 14, 2014, 05:52:22 PM
If people dump because of an alpha they are plain stupid. The open alpha is to show that the devs are working hard and that - contrary to what trolls say - there is progress. It's also about collecting data to further improve POI and NIS in general. So I think the alpha will not show the whole picture - that's why it's called alpha Wink

I know but people wants to see how POI works  Wink i personally will hold my stake but if things not look good in alpha expect a lot of selling.

I'm not sure just how much of POI people will see. Most people will open the client, maybe make a tx and that's it. POI needs a bit of time to come into play. It's not as simple as with POS where your (confirmed) balance is either high or not.
1940  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread {Updates & Discussion} on: June 14, 2014, 05:40:14 PM
I have an idea and I think it's a great Idea. Why don't you stop right now the NEM token distribution. If you do the price will rise to the moon as there will be more buyers than sellers eventually in the asset exchange, if you continue sending the tokens the price of NEM will remain the same or go down. Then when alpha is released the price will go even higher in the asset exchange. Now the price to buy one token is 21k next. If you stop sending tokens I bet you that will multiply by 2 and when alpha is release multiply by other 2 also so I guess by 25th of June one NEM token will be 80K nexts. What do you think?
Good idea but i'm not that much into price manipulation > it's a free market
Our cousins over the road would probably throw a tantrum aswell.
Plus some stakeholders might complain so there ia a no MUCHO piont

yes I know what you mean but it works both way if you continue to send tokens it will manipulate the price of NEM to go down and if you stop the supply of tokens into the asset exchange will have the opposite effect it will rise its value...what do you prefer a cheap NEM or a expensive NEM is you have a stake of NEM?



This is depend of distance - in shot- yes, cheap NEM token(stake) very bad, But, much more people can buy it(involved in it), isn't it? this is good for long distance.
For people, which don't want to sell stakes now-doesn't matter what price of NEM tokens there is right now- Wink
Cheers


it could be but when alpha is launched there will be LOTS wanting to buy!! Smiley

i can be equally in both ways if there is innovation it will rise and if not then people will dump.


If people dump because of an alpha they are plain stupid. The open alpha is to show that the devs are working hard and that - contrary to what trolls say - there is progress. It's also about collecting data to further improve POI and NIS in general. So I think the alpha will not show the whole picture - that's why it's called alpha Wink
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