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1921  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][LTC][TRC][FTC][MNC][WDC][Stratum] USA www.multipool.in 0% PPLNS on: June 01, 2013, 04:12:59 AM
Hi,

Newbie miner here with LTC. I registered for the pool a couple days ago and successfully submitting blocks but my stats show nothing. I expected it would take 48h or so to propagate, and it's been longer than that so far.

When can I start seeing my stats?


What's your username?

Username is serpah. Now my account is banned and I can't log on to the website to view my stats.

I unlocked your account.  Unfortunately I do not see any entries in the LTC shares table for your worker serpah.1.  (not even invalids) Are you sure your miner is connecting to my pool?  Are you sure you're mining on the correct port for LTC?
1922  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LTC][TRC][FTC][MNC][WDC][SXC][0 FEES 20 confirm] USA www.multipool.in on: June 01, 2013, 03:16:44 AM
You're right. I thought estimated time to block increased dramatically. But I must have been looking at it shortly after the pool was back up. Figures the first time I use your LTC pool the luck falls off the cliff. Hoping there is a benefit to this one compared to wemineltc where you get 0.06 per block.

It's very random, we hit two blocks within a few hours a couple days ago, and we've also gone almost a week without finding a block.
1923  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Good bye LTC? on: June 01, 2013, 02:58:26 AM
litecoin is down because it's one of 10000000 scrypt coins in the market instead of one of 10.  Pretty standard drop.  The mass flood tends to lower everyone else.  At some point it'll stabilize but that won't be till people stop making new coins, presumably when they no longer profit from doing so and the complete lol coins totally die off.

This.  People are realizing that LTC has nothing over the other scrypt coins (some of which have more active developers) other than a small head start and a handful of sites accepting it.

It's still the best alt coin, but it's losing ground.
1924  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WTB] Can someone design me an attractive signature on: June 01, 2013, 02:55:57 AM
I will pay 1 LTC to someone who can quickly design me a bright but not tacky signature to advertise my escrow service on the link below. If someone has seen the Bit777.com signature thats attractive... need a few symbols, but like I said must be attractive.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=193140.40

You might want to work on obtaining an attractive username first.
1925  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Sexcoin - coin for adult industry on: June 01, 2013, 02:44:07 AM

 Well people said sex sells for many years,  lets see we can hit the right button with these.

I'm not sure how site operators/merchants can accept this coin without an exchange - how are they going to convert it to something of value to pay their expenses?

It's only 2.5 days old  Grin Grin Grin

The point is not how old it is, the point is why are the devs trying to get sites to accept it before it's on an exchange.
1926  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Sexcoin - coin for adult industry on: June 01, 2013, 02:15:25 AM

 Well people said sex sells for many years,  lets see we can hit the right button with these.

I'm not sure how site operators/merchants can accept this coin without an exchange - how are they going to convert it to something of value to pay their expenses?
1927  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LTC][TRC][FTC][MNC][WDC][SXC][0 FEES 20 confirm] USA www.multipool.in on: June 01, 2013, 02:06:13 AM
The LTC crash last night was costly for us.  Went 30 some hours without a block and now that it's back up half the folks left and our estimated time has skyrocketed.

Not sure what you mean, the pool was down for approx. 45 minutes last night and hashrate returned almost immediately to what it was before the downtime, about 20MH/s.  The hashrate is low because many people are mining higher profitability coins now.  If and when LTC returns to profitability, and once the multiport is fully operational, we should have a much higher LTC hashrate during those times when it is the highest profitability coin.

1928  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LTC][TRC][FTC][MNC][WDC][SXC][0 FEES 20 confirm] USA www.multipool.in on: June 01, 2013, 02:04:34 AM
I can't find anywhere info if there is a withdraw fee ? Some pools have 0.1 WDC to send autopayment to your address, but this pool doesn't say if there is a fee or not ? Anyone know ?

There is no withdraw fee.
1929  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: *** WorldCoin Pool Report *** All your WDC Pool Talk Here *** on: June 01, 2013, 02:03:33 AM
multipool.in is a pos. Banned me after five minutes for god knows what...LOL. Maybe they thought I was blocking one of their 1,000 banners or maybe because I set my donation to 0.5? Why would anyone have a pool fee, ads everywhere and expect donations to be 2%? I make a whopping $15 a day as it is. Hmm maybe I'll setup a pool if all that and then some is tolerated...I could easily have a cleaner layout for sure.

banning only happens if you enter your password wrong 5 times.  If you had let me know in my official support thread, I could have unbanned you..

We have never had a pool fee, we used to charge a transaction fee for withdrawals, but even that is gone now, and we don't have 'a thousand banners', we have one small google text ad at the top of the page, and one large banner at the bottom (which is off the screen for most pages on the site, unless maybe you have a 27" monitor?), both of which are blocked by adblock's default settings (which is why we request people turn off adblock).  Maybe you are thinking of a different site.

I don't ban people for setting a low donation percent, if you think I have time to check each user's donate percent you probably have never run a pool.
1930  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LTC][TRC][FTC][MNC][WDC][SXC][0 FEES 20 confirm] USA www.multipool.in on: May 31, 2013, 06:42:41 PM
if there is something that I could request that should be pretty easy, could you put more stats up?

For example, in the top right it would be nice to know what the current network rate is for each of the coins, not just the pool rate / exchange value / profit vs btc (those are great too though).

Also in the account management area, it would be nice to know what my current donation % is set to, I think I remember it being 2% when I signed up, and I may have changed it to 0% or 1% and I would like to know what it is at a glance similar to other pools I have used/am using.

There's a graph of the network hash rate vs. difficulty on the my stats page.

I'll look into making the donation % more prominent, thanks.

Right, but that graph is per coin so it takes a lot of clicking / time to compare the network hash rate of all the coins that way, rather than just the current # being displayed next to the pool rate up top on the always visible stats...

True, I'll look into adding that.  Once I add the multiport display at the top (ala index2.php) there may not be room for it.
1931  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LTC][TRC][FTC][MNC][WDC][SXC][0 FEES 20 confirm] USA www.multipool.in on: May 31, 2013, 11:35:48 AM
if there is something that I could request that should be pretty easy, could you put more stats up?

For example, in the top right it would be nice to know what the current network rate is for each of the coins, not just the pool rate / exchange value / profit vs btc (those are great too though).

Also in the account management area, it would be nice to know what my current donation % is set to, I think I remember it being 2% when I signed up, and I may have changed it to 0% or 1% and I would like to know what it is at a glance similar to other pools I have used/am using.

There's a graph of the network hash rate vs. difficulty on the my stats page.

I'll look into making the donation % more prominent, thanks.
1932  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LTC][TRC][FTC][MNC][WDC][SXC][0 FEES 20 confirm] USA www.multipool.in on: May 31, 2013, 04:30:41 AM
everything is back up.
1933  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LTC][TRC][FTC][MNC][WDC][SXC][0 FEES 20 confirm] USA www.multipool.in on: May 31, 2013, 03:51:11 AM
LTC pool is currently offline due to some DB changes that are taking a while to support my new stratum fork.

Good news: this fork supports vardiff!
1934  Economy / Exchanges / Re: bitfloor issues? on: May 31, 2013, 03:36:33 AM
He should just take it to a check cashing place.  I'll take a 10% hit to get my money now.  Smiley

LOL.

Wait.  You are joking, right?

mostly.  heh.
1935  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [LTC] Litecoin Core Development Fundraising on: May 31, 2013, 03:31:28 AM

LTC's exchange rate has dropped about 30% in the past month, I'd hardly call that stable.  It's only remained stable vs. USD because of the corresponding rise in BTC over the same period.

No disputing that rates against BTC fluctuate.  The rate against USD seems to remain relatively stable for long periods of time, for reasons I have never understood.  In any case the relatively stable USD rate actually makes it more attractive to merchants.  And Bitpay-type payment processors make the volatility less important since the processor absorbs the rate risk and the merchant is paid the invoiced amount of USD.

But what does this have to do with the dev fundraiser?  Nothing.  The devs job is to fix technical issues and make the software more dependable.

You've made your agenda clear.  Please move on?


Agreed, I've made my points.
1936  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [LTC] Litecoin Core Development Fundraising on: May 31, 2013, 03:06:17 AM

http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=alltime&resolution=day&pair=ftc-btc&market=btc-e
Here's one of the typical pump-and-dump scam clone coins.  You will notice in this chart that the early miners made thousands of BTC with this pump-and-dump scheme, which triggered a massive increase in hashrate as more idiots piled on.  As soon as the difficulty was too high and the price had plummeted, the coin fully collapsed with not enough miners to sustain confirmations. The leadership of this scam then tried to lure back miners with the promise of BTC bounties, which helped them to push it along slowly toward a smaller difficulty drop introduced in a mandatory hardfork client update.  Even after the adjusted client they are again now stuck with falling hashrate, the scam now having fully run its course.

The miners don't care about the long-term safety of the network.  So it would make no difference for the scam coin to be based on 0.6.x or 0.8.x.

The miners don't, but as you stated above, the exchange operators, mining pool admins, and merchants do.  And that is what is needed to have a successful coin.  The miners will go wherever the profitability is.  Which is increasingly, not litecoin.

You are twisting my words.  I said above that exchanges have an interest in contributing to long-term development of the client to reduce the risk of massive theft.

The merchants have an interest to use only the currencies that are stable and predictable in behavior.  Litecoin seems to have remained mostly within a comfortable range of 1.5-3.5 minute confirmation times for the past few months.  By contrast, the recent scam coins are characterized by repeated examples of technical failure, confirmation stagnation and extreme exchange rate volatility.  Merchants have little interest in accepting a virtual currency that takes hours to confirm, where they need to update their client often because of changing rules, and where the exchange rate swings 400% within a day.

Miners do have a choice.  They can stick to one of the established coins with a relatively stable exchange rate and confirmation time, or attempt to take advantage of idiots willing to buy newly mined scam coins.  Or they can also stop if they think the power expense is more than the coin will ever be worth.

LTC's exchange rate has dropped about 30% in the past month, I'd hardly call that stable.  It's only remained stable vs. USD because of the corresponding rise in BTC over the same period.
1937  Economy / Exchanges / Re: bitfloor issues? on: May 31, 2013, 01:56:29 AM
Since bitfloor has a lawyer... tell me why this can't work:

Roman gives the lawyer the money with a list of people owed, and the lawyer contacts everyone with a settlement agreement. If they want their money, they sign the settlement, and he mails out checks... why is that so fucking hard?

Perhaps the lawyer's bank won't allow him to deposit the check from Roman?

Seems crazy to me. It's from what, US Bank or something? Or bank of America, I forget. Go into Bank of America, and cash the check with hundred dollar bills and give it to your lawyer. Yeah, yeah, that won't ever happen but the whole thing seems a little crazy that his lawyer can't get it worked out for him. Pick a new lawyer.

If you are so sure it is that easy, make the agreement with your bank to be the disbursing bank and let it know how it goes.


I've never known an attorney on this planet that couldn't get a check cashed especially when a % would be his.

And yet, I have the sense you don't have 1 who will do this.



And yet, if I did, I'm sure me saying, hey mail me the check and I'll take care of it, I'm sure would work. Right... bitfloor doesn't seem to be suffering from a surplus of action. Rather the opposite, would anyone suggest otherwise?

Before you have an agreement from a bank that will take this check under these circumstances, you cannot know that it is easy, instead you are just spreading useless or harmful noise.


He should just take it to a check cashing place.  I'll take a 10% hit to get my money now.  Smiley
1938  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LTC][TRC][FTC][MNC][WDC][SXC][0 FEES 20 confirm] USA www.multipool.in on: May 31, 2013, 01:45:10 AM
I added state matching to the iptables rule, hopefully it will now switch over established connections if wasn't doing that before (your miner will probably disconnect when this happens)
1939  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][IMPORTANT] Vulnerability in stratum-mining - Fix your pools ASAP on: May 31, 2013, 01:09:39 AM
Well i checked my change i made last night this morning. Due to my files being owned by root and I run stratum as a different user it
did not create the .pyc file. So I chown'd the directory and restarted the daemon. So the block the pool found last night was not fully
using the new code change.  This time the .pyc file was created. (I rarely use python. I use php, perl, and C more then python.)

My question is if python cannot create the .pyc file does the application simply run anyway without it? Because the pool did find a block
in that condition.

So can anyone confirm, after the change, did your pool find a block to verify the code did not disrupt normal operations?

Yes my pool has found blocks on mnc, wdc and sxc since I implemented the fix.

But not litecoin.

I just did some googling. That .pyc file is sorta created for the next time the program is ran. Everything is in memory anyway so if it cannot
create it no big deal. It just has to do it again next time it is ran...

No, not litecoin, but it's almost the same exact codebase so I don't see why it shouldn't.  We are averaging about 2 days per litecoin block at the moment.
1940  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][IMPORTANT] Vulnerability in stratum-mining - Fix your pools ASAP on: May 31, 2013, 12:57:40 AM
Well i checked my change i made last night this morning. Due to my files being owned by root and I run stratum as a different user it
did not create the .pyc file. So I chown'd the directory and restarted the daemon. So the block the pool found last night was not fully
using the new code change.  This time the .pyc file was created. (I rarely use python. I use php, perl, and C more then python.)

My question is if python cannot create the .pyc file does the application simply run anyway without it? Because the pool did find a block
in that condition.

So can anyone confirm, after the change, did your pool find a block to verify the code did not disrupt normal operations?

Yes my pool has found blocks on mnc, wdc and sxc since I implemented the fix.
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