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19321  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: can satoshi kill bitcoin? on: December 13, 2013, 04:44:00 PM
He could severely disrupt the market price if he chose to dump all his coins all at once. How long it takes to recover is another question. Hopefully we'll never find out.
19322  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DOGE scam run by 4chan on: December 13, 2013, 04:31:27 PM
well we all know how big the trolls are over at 4chan and this coin is backed up by them %100

thoughts?
the same could be said for all altcoins and bitcointalk.org

thoughts?

Plenty of trolls all over the internet, but sometimes you're just:




or not.
19323  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum? on: December 13, 2013, 04:24:42 PM
Very funny. I had a feeling somebody would do that. Do you refute that Sandy Hook was a fake serial shooting?

Or that the Boston marathon attack was a false flag carried out by NATO, the World Bank, Homeland Security, Israeli Mossad (Max Brenner/Strauss Israel/IDF Leadership School), Jardine Matheson, Mayor's Office, Rotary Club, Harvard Medical School etc.

The latter has been totally deconstructed but it seems Wikipedia supports the official government version of events still.

Can you provide an explanation of that, beyond posting images of Alex Jones?

Yes, I do refute all of the above, unless you can convince me otherwise. What evidence do you have that Sandy Hook was a 'fake' shooting, or Boston Bombing was a false flag attack carried out by Nato etc? And what was the reasons for them?

Also:

19324  Other / Politics & Society / Re: I wrote an article for a socialist group I am in - 'A Left Defence Of Bitcoin' on: December 13, 2013, 04:08:58 PM
Sadly, most of the popular awareness about Bitcoin is about its recent skyrocketing value and its volatility.  This makes people hoard their Bitcoin, or day-trade it like a penny stock, and slows its adoption as a means of exchange.  The point of Bitcoin is not to hoard it and get a bunch of dollars or pounds out - instead, it’s important to buy goods and services with it, and encourage others to do so. The real power of Bitcoin will be when it is accepted for everything from milk to babysitting to life insurance,  and is no longer associated with the underbelly of the economy.

Good article, but I disagree about the point of it is not to hoard it. Yes, for the currency to work we need people to be buying things with it, but I can still sell and trade it for items and keep hold of my coins. With any currency people are allowed to save for the future; it doesn't have to be spent straight away. If you truly believe in Bitcoin, then when and if the currency gains mainstream acceptance the value of the coin will surely be worth more than it is today. Therefore, I'm taking the risk and holding onto my coins until I can get more 'bang for my BTCuck', then I'll glady spend. The price needs to steady though before I start splashing it around. I don't really fancy paying £5 worth in Bitcoin for a Pizza then X amount of time later having ended up paying £100 for it, but that's just me.
19325  Other / Off-topic / Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup Draw on: December 13, 2013, 04:00:48 PM

I do think they get out of the group actually, while I do not see England getting out.  I see USA drawing with Germany, beating Ghana, and maybe a draw vs Portugal.

Care to wager?  I'll bet you England does not make it out of their group.  Name the price

I'll bet you that USA don't make it through, but we'll need to use a reputable escrow to hold on to the funds.
19326  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I really dont think bitcoin is going to be a day2day currency on: December 13, 2013, 03:56:30 PM
I think the OP has a valid point. Anything requiring a third party goes against bitcoin's philosophy.

I don't think so, but for mainstream acceptance a little help from businesses is going to be needed. With anything that becomes popular capitalists will try to capitalise from it. People can chose not to pay with third-party merchants and just use straight transfer.

You also have a valid point. But on the other hand, having third part processors negates some advantages Bitcoins have, such as no chargeback...

True, but the payment processors would probably insure against this if it happened. I also don't think double-spending is such a big issue, as long as you get one confirmation you should be able to accept that it's a done deal.
19327  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are corporations people? on: December 13, 2013, 03:49:38 PM
Apparently they're people if you're Mitt Romney: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2h8ujX6T0A
19328  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does wikipedia remind of you the beggards on this forum? on: December 13, 2013, 03:38:29 PM
Wikipedia was probably a CFR/NSA/CIA front from the very beginning.

The whole premise of the site is to mix factual trivia with the many 'Big Lies' in falsified history, including major government black ops like the fake 9/11, 7/7, Madrid, Norway, Boston marathon and Sandy Hook terror or serial shooting attacks.

Wikipedia is clearly aligned with the global fascist government drive. It appeared out of nowhere with massive bandwidth and server resources, with no adequate explanation of how it secured these. It continues to report fully debunked and discredited falsified events as real, to aid the UN plans for gun control, free trade open borders, international socialism on steroids, the attack on Christianity, attack on the family etc.

I understand that only reference links from the likes of the BBC, Reuters, AP and CNN are permissable on Wikipedia now. In other words, Wikipedia is nothing more than an echo chamber for the SIX companies that control the global media. Most of the editors are university professors, doctors, economists, civil servants, teachers etc. who are Fabian socialists. The site is a complete joke.

Personally I reckon it's time for a true anarchist/libertarian version of Wikipedia.





How do you know Bitcoin isn't a CFR/NSA/CIA front?

19329  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I really dont think bitcoin is going to be a day2day currency on: December 13, 2013, 03:32:00 PM
I think the OP has a valid point. Anything requiring a third party goes against bitcoin's philosophy.

I don't think so, but for mainstream acceptance a little help from businesses is going to be needed. With anything that becomes popular capitalists will try to capitalise from it. People can chose not to pay with third-party merchants and just use straight transfer.
19330  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I really dont think bitcoin is going to be a day2day currency on: December 13, 2013, 02:34:56 PM
You need to understand bitcoin to make assumptions like that. Waiting time is an agreement between buyer and seller. The transactions is acutally seen on the network within seconds, so for a pint of milk, retailers could simply wait until the transaction is "seen" and take the risk that the transaction is undone. For buying a car or a house, yes you might have to wait 10-30 minutes, or even the full hour. As each block is generated the likelihood of the transaction becoming undone get exponentially lower, esp with the huge hashing power of the bitcoin network.

This. Merchants will also probably use a payment processor service which will insure against bounced payments and such.

Does it stand any chance as a night2night currency? Perhaps in the grey market on thedark web that's only roamed in the odd hours?

 Grin
19331  Other / Meta / Re: (PETITION) The act of BUYING/SELLING Bitcointalk.org Accounts (Poll) on: December 13, 2013, 02:17:18 PM
I don't agree that accounts should be openly allowed to be sold, nor do I agree with the logic that we can't stop it so just let it be. You can't stop it, but you can police it and make it more difficult. I made my points in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=367586.0

An account is a commodity like any other. Why should it be treated differently?

Should we treat your identity/passport/social security number as a commodity to be bought and sold to the highest bidder too?

IMO, account selling is somewhat analogous to selling a business.

Not if you're selling it to the mafia as a front to commit crimes and fraud.

Obviously there's two sides to this argument, but allowing it seems like you're not only condoning it but encouraging it.

My 0.02BTC.
19332  Other / Off-topic / Re: BRISH MAN BUYS AN XBOX ONE PHOTO FOR £458 on: December 13, 2013, 02:06:34 PM

Guessing British man? haha
19333  Economy / Services / Re: Need an item from the UK? I'll buy it, ship it, then you pay for it! [Worldwide] on: December 13, 2013, 02:05:29 PM
I was thinking about offering a similar service based in italy  Smiley , i think we would not overlap our markets because our food is pretty different.
Could you plese give me an hint on where i can find the regulation regarding international shipping of food? And about your earnings, are you already running an activity or you're going to consider a btc--->item exchange as barthering  things between privates?

If you want i should be glad to barter some of your porky-things with some italian food Smiley . Also, if you want to resell it (i'm probably not going to set up a business by myself because of the lack of time)  i can bulk-ship food from italy

I'll send you some "proper" pizza haha.

Each country had different rules on shipping food. Australia is really strict on what you can ship or bring in for example. In America Kinder Eggs are not allowed because they didn't pass food safety laws or something. It's best to check on a case-by-case basis, but most countries are fine with most food.
19334  Other / Off-topic / Re: S> METAPHYSICAL BITCOINS on: December 13, 2013, 01:59:14 PM
Hey guys, i just minted some metaphysical bitcoins, i will meditate them into your brain or whatever for no cover cost, let me know

Can we get them delivered to alternative universes?
19335  Other / Off-topic / Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup Draw on: December 13, 2013, 01:51:01 PM


Haha don't make me laugh. They'll probably come last. USA have never won a game against Ghana and have been beaten 2-1 both home and away in their last two games: http://www.11v11.com/teams/ghana/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/USA

"USA face World Cup nightmare group with Germany, Ghana and Portugal":

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/dec/06/usa-world-cup-group-g-germany-ghana-portugal

So yeah, England have got more chance than the USA, but neither will go very far if they get through, but I'll bet money England will do better than USA.

19336  Other / Meta / Re: "Giveaway only accounts"/Sockpuppets on: December 13, 2013, 01:48:56 PM
These people are trying to get many alternate cryptos by making multiple accounts and posting different addresses. They appear legitimate with there many posts, each of which consists of almost entirely posting for giveaways. Some of them are trying to get paid for their signature space  Angry Angry Angry. Case study: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=367744.0

I think there are worse and more nefarious uses of alt/sock puppet accounts, to be honest.

I suggest you just state in your terms that it's only one per person and you must be a regular contributor to the forums, and that you will not pay out to anybody who you suspect has multiple accounts, but obviously this is difficult to prove.
19337  Other / Meta / Re: Profile Picture - not accepting my chioce on: December 13, 2013, 01:23:06 PM
Yeah, sorry. You can not upload pics anymore. Host it on imgur, then point it there.

Do you mean you could have profile pic that is previously hosted on imgur?! I tried but it did not work at all  Undecided

No, that's currently disabled too.
19338  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I dream of a day where useless fiat is burned to create electricity for bitcoin on: December 13, 2013, 01:18:52 PM
So , I should start carrying paper wallets in my wallet ?
Because right now , if I'm out of cash , I have my cc , if that fails I  have my id and can withdraw from a bank (if it's still open).
If my phone battery is dead , how I'm going to pay with bitcoins?

We need to start thinking of the infrastructure before tearing the old building down.


We're a long way off yet, but there are many solutions and different ways to spend Bitcoins, and I'm sure they'll be many more created.
19339  Economy / Services / Re: Need an item from the UK? I'll buy it, ship it, then you pay for it! [Worldwide] on: December 13, 2013, 01:12:54 PM
Are pork scratchings not available in the US, or is it just the Mr Porky ones that aren't?

They probably are, but its like comparing a microwave pizza from frozen to a fresh pizza made with a stone oven in Italy.

It's really down to personal preference, but pork scratchings in the UK are so tasty!

I dunno, they all kinda look and taste the same to me. And pizzas in Italy are shit. Biggest disappointment of my life haha.

All down to personal preference, everyone likes different things, it's what makes the world so diverse Smiley

That is true, but me and my friend consider ourselves Pizza connoisseurs and were so excited to try genuine Italy Pizza, but both were severely dissapoint  Cheesy.


In the wise words of my father when I was receiving my last ever school grades...

"Expect the worst, hope for the best, and you'll never be disappointed."

I usually follow that mantra myself, but I guess the hunger for pizza got the better of me  Cheesy.
19340  Other / Off-topic / Re: Lose vs Loose on: December 13, 2013, 12:52:10 PM
English is a notoriously difficulty language to learn. I don't begrudge anyone for not having perfect grammar. English and Americans are generally lazy when it comes to learning another language anyway, so I find it rich when they criticise others when they themselves cannot use the language properly, nor can they speak another language other than their own. In fact, I'm not sure I've ever met somebody with perfect English grammar, and of course that includes myself and, ironically, most so-called grammar nazis.

How would you know if English is your native language (is it?)? I don't think it difficult (English grammar at least), neither do I find myself specifically capable at learning foreign languages (now it is a matter of vocabulary for me)...

I won't point out all the grammatical errors in the above statement Grin.

There are many ways in which English is difficult to grasp. Obviously there's no test to rate languages on a scale of difficulty, but I've found the majority of people who speak English as a second language have told me how difficult they find it, and I often read about how hard it is to master the grammar, but obviously some people pick languages/grammar up quickly than others. Maybe try find a multi-lingual person and ask them haha.

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