Не думаю, что майнить другие валюты на скрипте особо выгоднее, поэтому, скорее всего, действительно просто отключили


Я думаю, что мы еще увидим новые максимумы по битку. Но не столько из-за халвинга, ибо халвить там уже практически ничего не осталось, сколько из-за очередного хайпа и пампа, возможно и связанного с халвингом. Если Феникс опять включит печатный станок, что далеко не гарантировано, как и существование самой биржи, но тем не менее, то тогда курс могут загнать и на 50к и за 50к

Но точно не надолго

Scams like Ponzi schemes are unlikely to affect Bitcoin significantly. To put it differently, do regular scams, let's call them dollar-only, affect the dollar valuation when they close the shop? Apparently, not. But it is essentially the same with Bitcoin as these shops don't affect or undermine the cryptocurrency infrastructure itself. However, this is not the case with cryptocurrency exchanges, especially the biggest ones. If Bitfinex was able to push the prices up many times all the way to 20k, it should also work in reverse as well, and it does indeed

The bottom line is that we should care about semi-legit exchanges, not so much about outright Ponzi schemes

I was just asking

Anyway, just ignore him. If that gives you some peace of mind, think that with such meaningless accusations he only further discredits himself until no one takes him seriously (as is obviously the case already). That should be your consolation, not retaliation. Such things typically work themselves out eventually quite well


All the more reason to discard this issue as completely inconsequential

Are you sure you didn't put that signature on?

When I first read about the new codes (I mean about the InvestBox), I had first changed the signature. Then I saw people bickering about it, and since I didn't quite like the idea myself (after looking into it), I quickly put back the old Cryptotalk signature. The point is, I could also claim I had been wearing the old signature all the time, but technically, that wouldn't be totally correct even if I used that questionable and suspicious sig only for a few minutes and didn't make any posts with it

How do you know that it works ok?

Really, if you have to avoid posting at around some time (which actually amounts to a period of time more like 3-4 hours and beyond) so that you don't lose some of your posts, I'm not really sure if it is rightful to say that the system is working fine. Further, if it works good for you personally, it doesn't in the least mean that it works good for everyone else, right? Simply put, bugs won't go away just because you chose to ignore them

I'm not sure if wheat is a good example

Indeed, its price depends on the balance of supply and demand as everything else which gets traded out there. But wheat cannot be a good store of value simply because it can't retain its value over any significant amounts of time. It starts to "depreciate" almost instantly as it quickly loses its consumer properties (read, quality) after having been harvested. Apart from that, just its storage alone requires significant expenses which subtracts a lot from its usefulness as a hypothetical store of value (whatever that value might be)

All good but be aware that you are supposed to lose

I mean the casino expects you to lose eventually. If, on the other hand, you are not losing and going on, actually sucking in money from the casino instead, they may not quite like it. As long as the amount thus lost by the casino is not great, they may turn a blind eye to your actions as other people trying to follow the approaches described in this thread could compensate for the casino loss through their own loses. However, if you are winning big, don't be surprised to get kicked out at the end of the day, and probably not in the way you may like it or at least find acceptable and appropriate (read, prepare yourself for really ugly and nasty things)

A full quote of what I said seems appropriate (with emphasis added):


Regardless, the bot correctly counted my posts by yesterday's evening, so the issue is kinda solved (apart from the wrong post count on December 22). Still, it would be very nice and welcome if Yobit added a button to the panel with which we could force the bot to check our post counts, say, once every hour (to prevent abusing the button). Even being able to use this button once a day could help us better understand where we stand

What do you guys think?

In fact, it can't be any other way

I wrote extensively on the subject and had rather heated discussions and arguments with a few forum members in the past. It is ironic how stubborn and obstinate people can be (and then proceed to being outright obnoxious and offensive) when their deep-entrenched ideas are thoroughly challenged so much that it makes an interesting subject for exploration on its own merits and for its own sake

The point is, the functions of storing value and being a medium of exchange (synonymously known as a means of payment) are mutually exclusive. Simply stated, you can't have a good store of value and a good medium of exchange at the same time. It is either the former or the latter. And while we are at it, the function of a unit of account is not really a function of money as it is the very concept of it (read, there is no discrepancy here)

You seem to have gotten it wrong again

You can in fact earn enough dough for a cup of coffee and beyond in a pretty consistent way provided the casino stays more or less provably fair all that time (and it doesn't kick you out which they probably will eventually). If you use the potential of this approach to its fullest, i.e. increase your balance to ultimately obtain the max win allowed, you should be able to book enough on a monthly basis. Not sure about hundreds of dollars but certainly in the range of dozens

As I got it, the bot internally uses UTC+3 timezone

It means that all posts made after 9:00 PM forum time will be counted for the next day because it's already a new day for the bot. But there is also a sort of middle ground since actual counting depends on when exactly the bot queries the forum. Technically, it doesn't matter so much when you make a post as when the bot counts it. Put differently, if it counts your posts after 9:00 PM, they will be counted toward the next day even if you posted them earlier. At least, that's what I managed to deduct from my own observations (read, they are not necessarily true)

That has a simple explanation. Say, you make a post at 5 PM forum time, but if the bot queries the forum after 9 PM forum time, which will already be a new day from the bot's point of view, your post will be counted toward the next day. So if there are time-out issues involved, and the bot fails to get the post counts for today, it may potentially count all posts from this day as tomorrow's. But since you can only make so many posts, you may start losing posts

The bottom line is that the bot needs some patching as it is stealing from us

The bot uses Moscow timezone, which is UTC+3

It means that if you post at, say, 9:05 PM forum time, your post will be counted toward the next day because it is already next day in that timezone. That's the reason why this post which was technically posted yesterday according to forum, will be counted as today's post (provided it is counted at all, of course). Simply put, when you make 10 posts throughout the day you should get 5 posts counted


Just accept it this is not the case here

Dear Yobit!

Please fix your bot as it is apparently broken, at least with respect to certain forum accounts. I don't assume ill intent on your part since it looks more like a technical issue to me (bot timing out when trying to get post counts for certain accounts or something to that tune), but as you don't expect half-assed replies from us, we could rightfully not expect a half-assed attitude from you, either (for the record, I put a lot of effort in all my posts except for a single daily bump)

More specifically, on December 22 (see below) I made 10 posts but got counted only 4 (yes, I'm aware of the max post limit). Please note that all my posts were spread throughout the entire day so it is not like I was post-bursting or whatever:



Then today I have already contributed 6 posts (without this post) but have only 2 counted at the moment (they appeared a few minutes ago in the panel):



This is a real issue which should be dealt with in a constructive way


Care to read just a couple posts before the one you replied to?


There was nothing to show (right now I have 2 posts counted for today)

Here were are:



It's been over 12 hours since I made the first post with the updated signature. Technically, it was yesterday -- forum time, but the bot seems to be using Moscow timezone (UTC+3) anyway, so I should already have at least 3 posts counted by now. I have refreshed the page like a dozen times today, and it didn't help

What else could I do?


Look through my posting history and see for yourself

The bot is not working for me. I updated my CryptoTalk signature right after the new codes had been posted here (then updated again from the OP in case there were errors in the codes) and made a few posts since then. None of my posts has been counted yet. Just in case, I was able to withdraw to my balance all previous payments, though (read, I'm not banned from the campaign)

I don't understand how the bot works, which posts are counted and which not, and whether it works at all

Looks like a piece of plagiarism posted in the wrong topic in the wrong board, and probably even at the wrong time (as there seems to be no way to get away with these little shenanigans nowadays). Don't mind if my post gets deleted in case my suspicions turn out true. With that said, I essentially agree that cryptocurrency trading is not very far from gambling for the majority of trading folk (read, most are going to lose in the end)

But this is a different topic

I'm not even sure anyone can be "theoretically strong in trading"

To me, it would feel like a very high degree of sarcasm if someone addressed someone else in that way. Just imagine a person being referred to as "a very knowledgeable boxer" who never actually fought a round in the real ring. Could we call him a boxer at all? I guess, no, and the same is equally applicable to trading. You can be a strong trader only if you trade successfully in real markets, and that means genuine, first-hand experience

Well, that goes well beyond theories of money circulation

As it is more about the concept of money itself. If something aspires to become money, it must necessarily be a store of value, at least short to midterm. Put differently, anything which cannot keep its value over time cannot be money. Indeed, there are other requirements such as fungibility, fast transactions and low transaction costs, but having a capacity to more or less retain value is an absolute necessity. Hyperinflating currencies like the Venezuelan bolivar quickly lose this capacity and thus stop being money

You shouldn't try it with Bitcoin

I tried that in 2015, and failed miserably losing 1.5 BTC (worth around 500 dollars back then). The only way you can successfully use this strategy is by playing with doges, and starting with the minimum bet at that


Really simple, isn't it?

You earn by enjoying the variance which randomness readily makes available to you due to its nature. You may not see a lot of outliers (since they are statistical outliers, after all, and thus not supposed to be seen too often), but their power is incredible. So as long as you use it wisely and with caution whenever you can (as not every casino allows it), you will be able to beat the house consistently