If you talk to ISIS people, or people who are in favor of ISIS, they will tell you that ISIS does little that is wrong. If you talk to cops, or people who are in favor of cops, and you show them how cops beat, murder, invade privacy, often for no reason, and often totally against the Constitution and Bill of Rights, they will start to admit that cops are bad at times. So, you have good ISIS vs. sometimes bad cops. Cops are way worse than ISIS. Cops can't obey their own laws. But ISIS obeys theirs.  ''often for no reason'' Not often, you fucking liar. Stop saying shit without evidence. Bring the evidence that cops beat people ''often'' without any reason or shut the fuck up already you nutjob. LOL! Poor little Astargath. Haven't you heard of Internet search engines, yet? Don't you know how to Google "police brutality?" If you didn't want to use Google, don't you know how to use Bing, Startpage, or DuckDuckGo, or some other search engine? You call me a "fucking liar." Then you ask me to "Bring the evidence... ." How retarded are you, anyway? Don't you even realize that if I bring evidence, you aren't going to accept it because you think I am a "fucking liar?" So, why would you even want me to bring evidence? Isn't it about time you start to realize what an ignoramus you are? But of course, a troll like you would have to essentially be an unthinking, ignoramus, right, just to get paid for trolling by the Big Boys who pull your strings, right? EDIT: And on top of it, why would you think that I am a "fucking" liar? How do you know that I have a woman or significant other? Can't take it, can you? Finally you think you have found a real reason to call me names, and then you go and botch it all up... proving to the world once and for all, how much bad faith you really have! 1. Police officers are indicted in fewer than 1% of killings, but the indictment rate for civilians involved in a killing is 90% it is estimated that there are between 750,000 and 850,000 sworn officers in the US. 679 people have been killed by the police in 2018. Assuming they were shot by 1 officer each, it would mean only 0.09% of officers were involved and this is not taking in count how many of those were actually justified which I assume most were. So what is with this ''often'' shit you keep bringing up? I'm sure you also think police officers are racist because they kill a lot of black people however blacks are responsible for more than 50% of violent crimes in US even though they are only 13% of the population. Bring the evidence badecker or GO HOME. |
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You keep forgetting to bring evidence to the discussion.
How about Dr. Oz admitting he isn't going to vaccinate his four children? How about the high ranking german government officials only being willing to take special vaccines (not the ones handed out to the masses)? I'm sure their are multitudes of other examples as well. How do you explain that? How about all the other millions of doctors who are going to vaccinate their children? Why is Dr.Oz the authority here? If I were a doctor I'd have a friend shoot the vaccine into the sink and sign the paperwork. And as a non-doctor I'd find a doctor who would do just this for a special fee. Of course if I could be confident that I (or my kid) were going to get a special vaccine which was known safe things would be different. IIRC, Dr. Oz said he wanted to vaccinate his kids, but the wife would not let him. But he strongly recommends it for the plebs watching his mainstream propaganda show. Of course he does...he likes having a show. The most interesting thing was that they guy was not willing to just tell a straight up lie with a straight face. Unusual for a person on mainstream media. Maybe he has a soul buried somewhere in there. Or maybe he just knew that he'd be outed. ''How about the high ranking german government officials only being willing to take special vaccines'' I know nothing about that and you provided no evidence for it either.
Top result on a 2 second web search. And from Time which is one of the top globalist propaganda rags, but that was a decade ago...I doubt that such a story would even be penned now: http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1932366,00.htmlI'd heard the story before and/or ones like it. The Germans tend to be no fools when it comes to this stuff. They've been at or near the top in development of such things since the 1930's at least, but they lost a lot of their talent to the U.S. after the war when German scientists were given immunity and moved to our country to continue their work. Edit: Interesting that the Germans were dosed up with special safe-for-plebs vaccines and a decade later they got infected with open-boarders and immigrants. They no longer had what it takes to avoid said infection. Not that immigration, or 'guest worker' programs, are exactly new but the latest 'strain' of the infection were not Turks who were useful in bolting BMWs together. ''Top result on a 2 second web search.'' Here we found the problem, you search something on google, look at the first webpage and you take it as truth no matter what as long as it fits your agenda. Germans are indeed no fools, the article clearly says that they took vaccines but with fewer side effects. Note the '' they still took the vaccines''. What's the point of taking vaccines at all if they are harmful? Perhaps it's because they actually work? I'm not saying what they did was good or moral, clearly it's not if they gave normal population vaccines with more side effects but it's not like they did it on purpose to kill people, otherwise why would they give them vaccines that work at all and not wait for the virus to spread? |
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''Not one proof of pure random has been shown''
Again: Complexity arises from simple rules, atoms bumping into each other is enough. Humans are capable of creating things more complex than themselves, you don't need something more complex. This is already debunked several times in the other thread where I destroyed your god arguments. ''We see C&E all over the place. We have not one evidence of pure random.'' Quantum theorists disagree with you and there is no reason to believe you instead of them.
Bring evidence and debunk quantum theory then.
Is the reason why scientists haven't found out everything about physics, yet, because complexity rises from simple rules? You are starting to sound like a simpleton who can't begin to realize how complex the rules are. Something more complex than humans created them, so that they are able to create a few things that are complex in different ways than they are. Other than that, you don't really know that humans create things that are more complex than they are. That other thread was where you destroyed your integrity rather than my points, by simply not accepting proof for what it is, right in its face. Did you see your, above, line about quantum theorists? Notice the word "theorists." A scientific theory is known to be subject to change based on new findings. This alone shows that it is not fact. C&E is a fact, as proven by the vast quantities of C&E that exist, without even one pure random proof. Quantum is theory, not fact. If a scientist who is a theorist says that a theory is fact, he is contradicting himself simply by the nature of what a scientific theory is. If YOU state that he says such, you are just as self-contradictory as he is. Still waiting for proof of one instance of evolution, and now pure random, as well. Are you getting hot under the collar, yet, because your ideas are so easily being shown to be a bunch of blab that doesn't have any substance? Evolution is a hoax, and you are part of the hoaxing team. ''C&E is a fact'' So what? A cause can still produce randomness, what's the cause of rolling a dice? A human hand, now that you know the cause, do you know the outcome? |
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You keep forgetting to bring evidence to the discussion.
How about Dr. Oz admitting he isn't going to vaccinate his four children? How about the high ranking german government officials only being willing to take special vaccines (not the ones handed out to the masses)? I'm sure their are multitudes of other examples as well. How do you explain that? How about all the other millions of doctors who are going to vaccinate their children? Why is Dr.Oz the authority here? ''How about the high ranking german government officials only being willing to take special vaccines'' I know nothing about that and you provided no evidence for it either. |
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How in the world dense are you. Nobody knows how many electrons, other particles, and energies were created at the same time. We don't know if there was a first electron or a second one. But it seems that you are way to dense to understand that I was giving you an example of the C&E way electrons and everything else works in the universe. Because you are like you are, I am really going to throw you for a loop with this: Everything absolutely is predetermined except for predetermination itself. As far as anything meaning something, you don't understand what you are too ignorant to understand. Study and think a little more, so you can finally start to talk intelligently about the thing you are blabbing. The laws of physics determine the way C&E works. How do we know? Because if the cause acted slightly differently, the effect would be slightly different. But since the cause acted as it did, the effect became what it became. Remember, every cause is simple the effect of whatever it was that caused the cause it to act the way it did, before it became the cause of something else that was its effect. All of it acts exactly the way it was pre-programmed to act at the time of the Beginning. Because of this, the thing that is called evolution was pre-programmed. Because it was pre-programmed, it doesn't fit what evolution theory says it should be in random mutations. In fact, evolution theory is self-contradictory in its ideas of natural selection and random mutations. Why don't evolution theorists use proper wording to keep the theory from being self-contradictory? They can't. Why? Because evolution doesn't exist. Evolution is a complete hoax. Hmm, ad hominem i see! Arguing against the man, does not strengthen your argument. It a logical fallacy. I’m not going there. Your deducting of programming out of C&E is equally a logical fallacy. It like saying water exists because I build a hose for it to flow though. Well it does not. You are not in control of causes and you cannot deduct the effect 100%, cause never ever in all the universe history has the cause been 100% the same, twice. How do you deduct programming out of this? Once again Evolution do need random mutation, it has enough randomness as explained. Two parents, 4 children, tell me you don’t have random evolution right there. No? How come the 4 children are not identical then? Ohh yes the fetus (or the very mixing) adapted, I know! Whether pure random exist or not, is pure speculation, I can’t prove it, you can’t prove it. And just the fact that it is speculation, true or not true, makes your relicense on it to explain away Evolution, yet another logical fallacy. I don’t need it to either true or not true, cause randomness is all around us, in trillion of examples. Nothing is programmed and Evolution is fact. Nobody is quarreling. Pointing out a flaw in a person is not ad hominem. Play pool, sometime. If you hit the cue ball in exactly this way, it will do exactly this. If you hit the ball in exactly that way, it will do exactly that. If you hit the ball exactly the same way every time, it will do exactly the same thing every time. This is the standard of science... do exactly the same thing the same way, and the result will be exactly the same every time. The reason the 4 children are different is not because there is random. Rather, it is because the C&E is different for all of them. If the C&E were exactly the same for all of them, they would all be exactly the same. This is what scientific experimentation is all about... getting the exact same results when doing things exactly the same way. Just because people are incapable of seeing/understanding/recording the trillions of C&E actions involved in making 4 different children, doesn't mean that those trillions of C&E actions don't exist. Not one proof of pure random has been shown. In fact, pure random doesn't even fit how things work in the universe. Yet there are countless, proven C&E operations. Many of these are in the field of science. Since there is no proven pure random, evolution theory evolution cannot be proven. Why not? Because the theory says random mutations must exist for evolution to exist. If the kind of random being talked about is not pure random, but only the kind of random used is the way you toss a coin - artificial random, C&E that is too complex to understand the way the toss works - then we are talking C&E. Then all the evolution stuff has been guided by the way things work, in an exact way. Such smacks of programming. And programming of the universe is Intelligent Design. Evolution is a hoax. ''Not one proof of pure random has been shown'' Again: Complexity arises from simple rules, atoms bumping into each other is enough. Humans are capable of creating things more complex than themselves, you don't need something more complex. This is already debunked several times in the other thread where I destroyed your god arguments. ''We see C&E all over the place. We have not one evidence of pure random.'' Quantum theorists disagree with you and there is no reason to believe you instead of them. Bring evidence and debunk quantum theory then. |
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If you talk to ISIS people, or people who are in favor of ISIS, they will tell you that ISIS does little that is wrong. If you talk to cops, or people who are in favor of cops, and you show them how cops beat, murder, invade privacy, often for no reason, and often totally against the Constitution and Bill of Rights, they will start to admit that cops are bad at times. So, you have good ISIS vs. sometimes bad cops. Cops are way worse than ISIS. Cops can't obey their own laws. But ISIS obeys theirs. ''often for no reason'' Not often, you fucking liar. Stop saying shit without evidence. Bring the evidence that cops beat people ''often'' without any reason or shut the fuck up already you nutjob. |
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You fully agree? Who are you agreeing with? Nobody has been talking about bumping any electrons exactly the same way twice. The thing that is being talked about, is how one electron bumps another. The way the first electron bumps the second electron determines how the second one will act. This is a progression that goes all the way back to the beginning of the first electron being set into motion. The way the first electron was set in motion determined how it bumped the second. And how the second was set in motion determined how it bumped the third... etc. right down to the present. If the first one had been set in motion slightly differently, it would have bumped the second one differently, etc.,... right on down to the present, and things would be different. There is no random activity. Everything acts exactly according to the way it was caused to act by whatever caused it to act that way. That's exactly how programming works. Because the laws of physics don't change, there is and can be no pure random. The thing that we generally call random is simply a word for our inability to see and understand the super-complex programming of the universe. As far as there being more intelligent beings out there, anybody who can program a universe as complex as ours is, certainly has to be way more complex than we are. What are you trying to say? That you believe that God exists? Everything is programmed. Because of this, the thing that some people call evolution is programming, not evolution. Evolution is a hoax. So what you are saying is the every action ever happened in the entire universe is the sole result of how the first electron bumped the second! Everything is predetermined. That I blinked twice right now, and not one time. That the 2nd ww happened, the pyramids of Giza, or the landing on the moon. Narr I don’t think so. And even if it was so, how do you know? It’s all theoretical, unproven speculations – of which you conclude that evolution cannot exist. Hmmm…… you just concluded that nothing means anything, as its all set in stone on account of one electron bumping into another. You do realize that C&E is there whether something is programmed or not? And that programming is not a conclusion or deductible from C&E? Every cause leads to an effect, always. C&E is not a programming; it’s a process which leads one event to another. It is transit state, from one or more causes to an effect – with absolutely no relation to programming. Evolution is a fact, nothing is programmed. How in the world dense are you. Nobody knows how many electrons, other particles, and energies were created at the same time. We don't know if there was a first electron or a second one. But it seems that you are way to dense to understand that I was giving you an example of the C&E way electrons and everything else works in the universe. Because you are like you are, I am really going to throw you for a loop with this: Everything absolutely is predetermined except for predetermination itself. As far as anything meaning something, you don't understand what you are too ignorant to understand. Study and think a little more, so you can finally start to talk intelligently about the thing you are blabbing. The laws of physics determine the way C&E works. How do we know? Because if the cause acted slightly differently, the effect would be slightly different. But since the cause acted as it did, the effect became what it became. Remember, every cause is simple the effect of whatever it was that caused the cause it to act the way it did, before it became the cause of something else that was its effect. All of it acts exactly the way it was pre-programmed to act at the time of the Beginning. Because of this, the thing that is called evolution was pre-programmed. Because it was pre-programmed, it doesn't fit what evolution theory says it should be in random mutations. In fact, evolution theory is self-contradictory in its ideas of natural selection and random mutations. Why don't evolution theorists use proper wording to keep the theory from being self-contradictory? They can't. Why? Because evolution doesn't exist. Evolution is a complete hoax. ''Because of this, the thing that is called evolution was pre-programmed'' Only when you prove it's actually programmed meaning that someone intelligent programmed it. If the big bang was the first cause then nothing is programmed, at least not intelligently even if you can track the causes to the beginning. The big bang didn't ''think'' when it happened so no programming. Therefore evolution is real. Big bang theory shows that BB is way to inadequate to have started our universe, especially on levels of life complexity. Such complexity isn't written into BBT in any way that shows that BB is more than a silly idea. Since thought is part of the universe, and thinking "machines" (brains) are at least as complex as thought patterns, whatever brought this complexity into being was a great thinker... just like our machine-makers think before they make our machines. However, this has nothing to do with cause and effect as we are talking. C&E shows that evolution doesn't exist because C&E doesn't have perpetual random built in, even in small amounts. We see C&E all over the place. We have not one evidence of pure random. But if we think we might have evidence of such random, we absolutely have no proof of it. This is similar to evolution. Some look of random and evolution. But no proof of either. Evolution is a hoax. Complexity arises from simple rules, atoms bumping into each other is enough. Humans are capable of creating things more complex than themselves, you don't need something more complex. This is already debunked several times in the other thread where I destroyed your god arguments. ''We see C&E all over the place. We have not one evidence of pure random.'' Quantum theorists disagree with you and there is no reason to believe you instead of them. |
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Now all we have to do is determine if the way TWP interprets its findings is fake news or not. Situation for situation in their entireties, cops are way worse than ISIS. In other words, teleport the cops out of America, and dump ISIS in, and watch the people hunt ISIS down faster than you can say "The Washington Post." Yet the people are having a difficult time getting rid of the cops, partially because people don't recognize that cops are way worse than ISIS. Bring statistics to back it up. There is always going to be a small percentage of cops that are corrupt/bad, that's life. If it was 80% of cops then sure but it's not 80%. You entirely fail to understand that ISIS is good when they do the violence that they do. Why? That is what is expected of them according to their religion. And, they are good when they are not doing violence, because such is expected of them at the non-violent times. But cops are just the opposite. They are never supposed to be violent at the non-violent times, but they often are. This means that ISIS seldom does wrong, but cops do wrong on a regular basis. Cops are way worse than ISIS. "You entirely fail to understand that ISIS is good when they do the violence that they do. Why? That is what is expected of them according to their religion. And, they are good when they are not doing violence, because such is expected of them at the non-violent times." WTF??? Isis is good when they do violence? we know where your loyalties stand you piece of filth. Badecker has arguments that a 10 year old kid would have. |
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You fully agree? Who are you agreeing with? Nobody has been talking about bumping any electrons exactly the same way twice. The thing that is being talked about, is how one electron bumps another. The way the first electron bumps the second electron determines how the second one will act. This is a progression that goes all the way back to the beginning of the first electron being set into motion. The way the first electron was set in motion determined how it bumped the second. And how the second was set in motion determined how it bumped the third... etc. right down to the present. If the first one had been set in motion slightly differently, it would have bumped the second one differently, etc.,... right on down to the present, and things would be different. There is no random activity. Everything acts exactly according to the way it was caused to act by whatever caused it to act that way. That's exactly how programming works. Because the laws of physics don't change, there is and can be no pure random. The thing that we generally call random is simply a word for our inability to see and understand the super-complex programming of the universe. As far as there being more intelligent beings out there, anybody who can program a universe as complex as ours is, certainly has to be way more complex than we are. What are you trying to say? That you believe that God exists? Everything is programmed. Because of this, the thing that some people call evolution is programming, not evolution. Evolution is a hoax. So what you are saying is the every action ever happened in the entire universe is the sole result of how the first electron bumped the second! Everything is predetermined. That I blinked twice right now, and not one time. That the 2nd ww happened, the pyramids of Giza, or the landing on the moon. Narr I don’t think so. And even if it was so, how do you know? It’s all theoretical, unproven speculations – of which you conclude that evolution cannot exist. Hmmm…… you just concluded that nothing means anything, as its all set in stone on account of one electron bumping into another. You do realize that C&E is there whether something is programmed or not? And that programming is not a conclusion or deductible from C&E? Every cause leads to an effect, always. C&E is not a programming; it’s a process which leads one event to another. It is transit state, from one or more causes to an effect – with absolutely no relation to programming. Evolution is a fact, nothing is programmed. How in the world dense are you. Nobody knows how many electrons, other particles, and energies were created at the same time. We don't know if there was a first electron or a second one. But it seems that you are way to dense to understand that I was giving you an example of the C&E way electrons and everything else works in the universe. Because you are like you are, I am really going to throw you for a loop with this: Everything absolutely is predetermined except for predetermination itself. As far as anything meaning something, you don't understand what you are too ignorant to understand. Study and think a little more, so you can finally start to talk intelligently about the thing you are blabbing. The laws of physics determine the way C&E works. How do we know? Because if the cause acted slightly differently, the effect would be slightly different. But since the cause acted as it did, the effect became what it became. Remember, every cause is simple the effect of whatever it was that caused the cause it to act the way it did, before it became the cause of something else that was its effect. All of it acts exactly the way it was pre-programmed to act at the time of the Beginning. Because of this, the thing that is called evolution was pre-programmed. Because it was pre-programmed, it doesn't fit what evolution theory says it should be in random mutations. In fact, evolution theory is self-contradictory in its ideas of natural selection and random mutations. Why don't evolution theorists use proper wording to keep the theory from being self-contradictory? They can't. Why? Because evolution doesn't exist. Evolution is a complete hoax. ''Because of this, the thing that is called evolution was pre-programmed'' Only when you prove it's actually programmed meaning that someone intelligent programmed it. If the big bang was the first cause then nothing is programmed, at least not intelligently even if you can track the causes to the beginning. The big bang didn't ''think'' when it happened so no programming. Therefore evolution is real. |
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Exactly my point, you will keep poisoning yourself and your children despite your feeling that the elite have your best interest in mind when you inject your body full of god knows what. You'd probably be safer going to the local dealer and telling him dealers choice.
Any student of history knows that the elite are not looking out for the little sheep. The fact that they love to give out these flu shots for free at local stores tells you everything you need to know. The elites NEVER give anything for free to the cattle unless it serves them.
You keep forgetting to bring evidence to the discussion. Do we? I think that you are not seeing the forest for the trees. When there is a historical precedent for something (e.g., the 'elite' operating in their own interests against those of the masses) then a well-funded effort to get the pleb classes jabbed is 'evidence' that something nefarious might be going on. Not very strong evidence, but evidence non-the-less. The same thing is also 'evidence' that TPTB have become our loving saviors and want nothing but the best for us. If they 'turned over a new leaf', then bending over backward to make sure that we could get our perfectly 'save and effective' bi-monthy 'flu' shots at the grocery store would be 'evidence' of their new-found loving kindness. But if that is the case, we ALSO need 'evidence' of the 'elite's relatively new attitude. Evidence of this is sorely lacking IMHO. A different variety of 'evidence' comes from the various people on this thread who relate their personal experiences, and often through a language barrier (unless they are particularly sophisticated frauds.) I personally put a fair bit of weight behind what they say. When they say that the kid of theirs who had all of the prescribed shots is sick all the time and the (often younger) kid who did not seems a lot more healthy, it is something I find meaningful. Partly because I've heard and seen it so many times myself. Basically, I see a lot of reasons why the big pharma (and all parties associated with corp/gov) would use lies and fraud to tell us that vaccines are perfectly safe and anyone who says otherwise is nuts. OTOH, I see very little incentive for a normal pleb on the ground to lie about his experiences. There is simply nothing to gain by doing so. My dad smoked for 40 years and is healthy therefore smoking doesn't cause cancer - Personal experience. |
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''If the thing that started the Beginning is or uses random, we don't know.'' So if we don't know, why are you still using it as an argument?
Aren't you beginning to figure out how wacky you are? Random is suggested in evolution theory. Yet, the only place that it might possibly exist is instantly "before" the beginning... way before evolution would have started, if it did. This means that evolution doesn't use random. Since the only place we have knowledge of evolution is evolution theory, evolution doesn't exist according to evolution theory. Let's say it again. Evolution theory says random, but C&E shows that there isn't any random during the time that evolution would have taken place, if evolution existed. So, evolution theory is talking about something that doesn't exist... evolution. Why? Because evolution theory talks random, which didn't exist during the time that theory says that evolution existed. Thank you for upholding the the idea that... Evolution is a hoax. A monkey would understand better than you. Maybe you didn't evolve at all So is gambling fake then? When commentators in sports say ''random shots'' is that a hoax too? It's random for us, a coin toss or dice is also random for us, we can't calculate it accurately and we call it random even if it's not 100% random, your argument is meaningless. ''instantly "before" the beginning... '' No such thing suggested by scientists, the big bang started time itself so there was no ''before'' If the big bang is a random event, whatever it caused it's also random and all the chains of events are random. |
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Now all we have to do is determine if the way TWP interprets its findings is fake news or not. Situation for situation in their entireties, cops are way worse than ISIS. In other words, teleport the cops out of America, and dump ISIS in, and watch the people hunt ISIS down faster than you can say "The Washington Post." Yet the people are having a difficult time getting rid of the cops, partially because people don't recognize that cops are way worse than ISIS. Bring statistics to back it up. There is always going to be a small percentage of cops that are corrupt/bad, that's life. If it was 80% of cops then sure but it's not 80%. |
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I don't believe that SV40 was injected into the plebs specifically to cause cancer...but I don't rule it out either.
... Again 0 evidence that some entity somewhere is making all vaccines harmful on purpose. Zero evidence. Can you not read? Or can you simply not understand the concept of not believing something somewhere in between 100% and 0%. If the latter, you are certainly not alone. This inability among the sheeple is one of the primary features that social engineers rely on to do their work. 'School' should promote this ability to entertain and analyze a variety of hypotheses but it seems to have the opposite effect. For some reason... If harmful ingredients were deliberately allowed to be a part of some vaccines in order to achieve a certain result which some powerful people desired, then finding harmful ingredients in the vaccine absolutely is 'evidence'. Is it 'proof'? No it is not. This should be 'analysis 101', but almost nobody seems to be able to comprehend this simple logic. Oh well. You would need to find evidence that those people allowed harmful ingredients on purpose and you would have to prove who those people are and not just 1 vaccine somewhere in the world but most of them. I don't think it's illogical to think that somewhere someone allowed a harmful ingredient or two to make the vaccine faster or cheaper or whatever but even then that's not what you and others are talking about. You are talking about a group of people who deliberately make harmful vaccines to KILL people. You are living in a fairly tale Astargath, but I suppose ignorance is bliss. Facts don't care about feelings. Exactly my point, you will keep poisoning yourself and your children despite your feeling that the elite have your best interest in mind when you inject your body full of god knows what. You'd probably be safer going to the local dealer and telling him dealers choice. Any student of history knows that the elite are not looking out for the little sheep. The fact that they love to give out these flu shots for free at local stores tells you everything you need to know. The elites NEVER give anything for free to the cattle unless it serves them. You keep forgetting to bring evidence to the discussion. |
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''The way the first electron was set in motion'' Yeah but it depends what set it in motion, scientists say it's bigbang which is a random event or at least a non sentient entity and didn't program anything, it just happened. Therefore everything that follows it's also random even if you can track all the causes back to the big bang, the big bang is still random in itself. At least what we know so far scientifically.
Big Bang Theory is too limited to fit the details of our universe. While it is true that a universe of sorts could come from BB, the complexity of the microcosm of our universe is outside of BB Theory. Because of this, there is no reason to apply BB to our talk here. There is no need to consider what it was that set the universe going way back in the Beginning. If it is as standard science accepts, the Beginning was some 13 or 14 billion years ago. Even evolution doesn't start until billions of years after the Beginning. So, who cares about the Beginning, regarding evolution. The only point regarding evolution in considering the Beginning of the universe is, C&E becomes extremely powerful. Why? Because anything that could start back then, and make the complexities of today, all by C&E, certainly placed a tremendous amount of power and greatness into C&E. If the thing that started the Beginning is or uses random, we don't know. Why not? Because we haven't been able to understand more than a smattering of the physics of the universe that make the C&E reamin constant... constant without any evidence of pure random. So how can we even begin to understand anything outside of the universe? None of this fits the idea of ETE (evolution theory evolution.) Evolution is a hoax. ''If the thing that started the Beginning is or uses random, we don't know.'' So if we don't know, why are you still using it as an argument? |
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I don't believe that SV40 was injected into the plebs specifically to cause cancer...but I don't rule it out either.
... Again 0 evidence that some entity somewhere is making all vaccines harmful on purpose. Zero evidence. Can you not read? Or can you simply not understand the concept of not believing something somewhere in between 100% and 0%. If the latter, you are certainly not alone. This inability among the sheeple is one of the primary features that social engineers rely on to do their work. 'School' should promote this ability to entertain and analyze a variety of hypotheses but it seems to have the opposite effect. For some reason... If harmful ingredients were deliberately allowed to be a part of some vaccines in order to achieve a certain result which some powerful people desired, then finding harmful ingredients in the vaccine absolutely is 'evidence'. Is it 'proof'? No it is not. This should be 'analysis 101', but almost nobody seems to be able to comprehend this simple logic. Oh well. You would need to find evidence that those people allowed harmful ingredients on purpose and you would have to prove who those people are and not just 1 vaccine somewhere in the world but most of them. I don't think it's illogical to think that somewhere someone allowed a harmful ingredient or two to make the vaccine faster or cheaper or whatever but even then that's not what you and others are talking about. You are talking about a group of people who deliberately make harmful vaccines to KILL people. You are living in a fairly tale Astargath, but I suppose ignorance is bliss. Facts don't care about feelings. |
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Actually, if an electron bumped the next electron a little to the left of where it bumped it, the second would bump the third a little differently. but the reason the first bumped exactly where it did was, it was bumped in exactly the way it was bumped. If it was bumped differently, then it would bump differently. We see nothing else in nature or the universe. Cause and effect act exactly as they were programmed to act - EXACTLY - with nothing (like random) making a difference in the way they acted. The whole thing was programmed. Why do you think that some tremendous numbers of cause and effect are too many to keep them from being pure random? Just because computer programmers work like crazy to make computer programs work right, why do you think that there can't be an Intelligence that is farther above us than we are above a microbe? Just because you feel like thinking that way? Everything is programmed. Since this is against evolution theory... Evolution is a hoax. BADecker you are not actually listing. I fully agree if you bump the same electron the same way and the exact same circumstances, you will (most likely, because I really don’t know, neither do you) get the very same outcome every time. My point is circumstances are never, ever, the same! Not even in a lab, under a controlled experiment, it will be the same. All other things being equal – if you somehow could make that, time has gone by, thus nothing is ever 100% the same as last time. What you can do is eliminate some factors that does not have influence on your given experiment, but that does not mean the experiment is 100% the same as the previous. And this is exactly what we do, whether you sit in your garage playing with switches and lightbulbs or with atoms at CERN. It is not me that says pure random does not exist – you said it! Because it has never been observed. I beg the difference, on two fronts – First, it is not needed, because you got enough randomness, multiplying by the second, without it – and if you can’t recreate any situation 100% again, don’t you actually have pure randomness? Second, what has never been observed in nature, or man made for that matter, is circumstances that are 100% the same as previously. So in a weird twist of fate, what has never happened in 4.5 billion years of this planet life is a situation that has occurred 100% identical, twice. Now how is that for randomness? And for the record, I very much believe that there are far more intelligent beings in this universe, than us. The universe is a pretty big place – I would be shocked if we happened to be the top dogs in this big place. But hey I don’t really know. But apparently you do! – please share  Nothing is programmed, Evolution is a fact! You fully agree? Who are you agreeing with? Nobody has been talking about bumping any electrons exactly the same way twice. The thing that is being talked about, is how one electron bumps another. The way the first electron bumps the second electron determines how the second one will act. This is a progression that goes all the way back to the beginning of the first electron being set into motion. The way the first electron was set in motion determined how it bumped the second. And how the second was set in motion determined how it bumped the third... etc. right down to the present. If the first one had been set in motion slightly differently, it would have bumped the second one differently, etc.,... right on down to the present, and things would be different. There is no random activity. Everything acts exactly according to the way it was caused to act by whatever caused it to act that way. That's exactly how programming works. Because the laws of physics don't change, there is and can be no pure random. The thing that we generally call random is simply a word for our inability to see and understand the super-complex programming of the universe. As far as there being more intelligent beings out there, anybody who can program a universe as complex as ours is, certainly has to be way more complex than we are. What are you trying to say? That you believe that God exists? Everything is programmed. Because of this, the thing that some people call evolution is programming, not evolution. Evolution is a hoax. ''The way the first electron was set in motion'' Yeah but it depends what set it in motion, scientists say it's bigbang which is a random event or at least a non sentient entity and didn't program anything, it just happened. Therefore everything that follows it's also random even if you can track all the causes back to the big bang, the big bang is still random in itself. At least what we know so far scientifically. |
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