Then they are not eternal, boom! An atheist simply doesn't believe ridiculous claims without evidence. I never rejected the idea that the universe is created by some being somehow somewhere. There is no way to know that right now.
If the aliens came into existence by themselves (nobody created them), then this implies that something can spontaneously come into existence by itself. Thus even the universe could come into existence by itself as well, and requires no creator. In such a scenario, Occam's razor would indicate that the universe did not need aliens to create it. If the aliens were created by someone, we need to find out whether their creator is eternal, and so on until we identify the first cause, or the eternal being that always exist. Thus we would identify him/her as God. Many theists go back to the first cause from the get-go, they don't bother with intermediary creators, they care about the ultimate creator of everything and who always exists. An eternal being is just as weird as something coming into existence spontaneously. I don't think most theists actually care about the truth and what created them. It's more of a way to escape death and give life some meaning. |
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Yes and mr super creator that I just invented is now by definition the creator of the universe, therefore mr super creator is the creator of the universe. You see any flaws with that argument?
It is not an argument mate. I was simply saying that a person who believes that this universe was created by an eternal alien race is a theist, not an atheist. To him, the aliens are gods/deities. I am not saying that you believe this mate, I know you are an atheist. An atheist does not subscribe to the idea that this universe was created by anyone, not even aliens. Then they are not eternal, boom! An atheist simply doesn't believe ridiculous claims without evidence. I never rejected the idea that the universe is created by some being somehow somewhere. There is no way to know that right now. |
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^^^ And that proves we're on a heavy spinning ball that pulls on things by virtue of its mass alone how-so? You've got a ridiculous story about the history of a rock found where nobody can go and verify for themselves (antarctic treaty), I've got an analysis of a manufactured steel alloy covered in a reflective semi-conductor that witnesses saw fall out of the sky. Also, that looks like a piece of fossilized organic material and doesn't resemble the description of it being mostly metal. Antarctica (where they claimed to have found the rock) is full of fossils, all land in fact is the remains of life turned to stone. The Egyptian conception of Earth/universe is actually the most telling of illustrations IMO. Bonus link from your favorite website: https://www.quora.com/Did-Apollo-astronauts-give-petrified-wood-to-the-Dutch-Prime-Minister-and-say-it-was-a-moon-rockI'm sorry but why can you claim your piece of rock is from the dome but I can't say mine is from the moon? Where is your proof that stars are holographic projections, where is the projector? |
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^^^  That's what a fragment of the polarized semi-conductor layer of the dome looks like (after colliding with Earth), this nickel-iron oxide (crystal) layer coats the inside of the steel alloy dome creating a golden high-voltage reflective surface. The celestial objects are projected as holograms off of this concave mirror and the electric field polarizes the atmosphere causing dense objects to sink/fall. Show me physical evidence of gravity bro. Check mate. |
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Yeah, no.. God from the bible is clearly defined as 1 being, perhaps 3 but not 100 or 1000. A very advanced alien race outside the universe could have created it and no, that's not god, sorry.
Exactly, but the God of the bible is a monotheistic view of God. Many theists do not believe in the God of the bible. I understand but it doesn't have to be a ''god''. There are thousands of different gods, the other option is simply super advanced civilizations that created the universe without being omnipotent etc etc. True mate. It comes down to this, are these aliens uncreated? ie always exist, eternal? God is uncreated by definition. God always exist. If these aliens had a point of origin then they are not God. The reason why I described them as God earlier was because of the this statement. "If those aliens create the universe and exist outside of space and time, then they are by definition, God" Something(s) that create this world and exist outside of space and time must logically be independent of time, ie eternal. Yes and mr super creator that I just invented is now by definition the creator of the universe, therefore mr super creator is the creator of the universe. You see any flaws with that argument? |
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^^^ Gotta love how you try and frame his arguments with ridiculous crap when it's been explained to you multiple times that the stars are holographic projections. You have to make up stupid shit to try and discredit the fact we're inside an engineered structure. The Flat Earth Society pulls the same shit and tries to frame the flat Earth explanation for gravity (fictitious force) with the ridiculous explanation that Earth is accelerating upwards continuously.
If the globe is so obviously true then why fuck are you resorting to underhanded debate tactics? Your post history betrays you, we've had multiple arguments about projected stars. You can't not know the truth at this point.
''it's been explained to you multiple times that the stars are holographic projections.''''You have to make up stupid shit to try and discredit the fact'' |
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Yeah, no.. God from the bible is clearly defined as 1 being, perhaps 3 but not 100 or 1000. A very advanced alien race outside the universe could have created it and no, that's not god, sorry.
Exactly, but the God of the bible is a monotheistic view of God. Many theists do not believe in the God of the bible. I understand but it doesn't have to be a ''god''. There are thousands of different gods, the other option is simply super advanced civilizations that created the universe without being omnipotent etc etc. |
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No, actually not at all. God is first of all an invented word but never mind that, the broad definition of god is a creator/being/spirit that created the universe, however that's all singular, it's not defined as a few beings working together to create the universe which could be just as possible, wouldn't you say?
I understand what you mean bro, but that is a monotheistic view of God  God means the intelligent creator(s) of this universe in a broad theistic sense, and God can also be plural or singular. There is polytheism and monotheism, however both are theistic beliefs. Yeah, no.. God from the bible is clearly defined as 1 being, perhaps 3 but not 100 or 1000. A very advanced alien race outside the universe could have created it and no, that's not god, sorry. |
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if you think the earth is flat, I think you should go back to school
"Back" to school? Anyone who doesn't already know the earth is a sphere has never left their house to look at the sky. So by looking at the sky you can see earth is a sphere ? Globeheads sounding smarter already. Yes, at night you can clearly see the stars rotating. https://youtu.be/MvMV-A3nEdQ?t=23What do you think that is? The dome rotating or what lmao. |
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I'm sure you've done meditation Astargath. I have done little, but enough to realize that not all thoughts are my own. These "thoughts" are not in any way audible, but I can still perceive them the same way I perceive my own thoughts. The major difference between the two thoughts is some came from me, but some did not come from me. BADecker didn't realize it. BADecker isn't as sensitive to spiritual things as was Jesus. However, BADecker is becoming more sensitive to many spiritual things around him, including some of the thoughts of others at times when such is beneficial. BADecker is too slow at becoming spiritually sensitive. But there is a practical, "hands-on" way that anybody can become spiritually sensitive somewhat like Jesus. Can you guess what it is?  Please tell us. ''but enough to realize that not all thoughts are my own.'' Again, you might think you realize those thoughts are not your own but how do you know? Is there a way to prove it or test it? Of course not, it's just your brain, as usual. That's why mentally ill people think they can fly or someone is telling them things. Actually, there is. For decades, now, doctors who opened up a person's skull, and sent a little jolt of electricity through sections of the brain, induced thoughts in a patient that weren't exactly his. In similar way all of cause and effect induces thoughts in all of us. The question should be, Are any of my thoughts mine? ''inducing'' thoughts by stimulating a brain doesn't mean the thoughts are from a god or another being, that's not even close of being evidence of that mate. |
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Nope, those aliens have always existed, that's how they created the universe because they are outside of it.
If those aliens create the universe and exist outside of space and time, then they are by definition, "God". So a person believes in aliens who created this world would be a theist, not an atheist. No, actually not at all. God is first of all an invented word but never mind that, the broad definition of god is a creator/being/spirit that created the universe, however that's all singular, it's not defined as a few beings working together to create the universe which could be just as possible, wouldn't you say? |
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I'm sure you've done meditation Astargath. I have done little, but enough to realize that not all thoughts are my own. These "thoughts" are not in any way audible, but I can still perceive them the same way I perceive my own thoughts. The major difference between the two thoughts is some came from me, but some did not come from me. BADecker didn't realize it. BADecker isn't as sensitive to spiritual things as was Jesus. However, BADecker is becoming more sensitive to many spiritual things around him, including some of the thoughts of others at times when such is beneficial. BADecker is too slow at becoming spiritually sensitive. But there is a practical, "hands-on" way that anybody can become spiritually sensitive somewhat like Jesus. Can you guess what it is? Please tell us. ''but enough to realize that not all thoughts are my own.'' Again, you might think you realize those thoughts are not your own but how do you know? Is there a way to prove it or test it? Of course not, it's just your brain, as usual. That's why mentally ill people think they can fly or someone is telling them things. |
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Checkmate Atheists, evolution is a hoax and God exists.
New theory:
What if we evolved from aliens? Aliens that looked pretty much similar to monkeys and were left on Earth by more intelligent species because
we looked similar to monkeys so they thought, 'oh let's just put these guys here, they will be friends'
Checkmate God believers (including me)
The question would ask itself, What did the aliens evolve from? Back to first base. Nope, those aliens have always existed, that's how they created the universe because they are outside of it. |
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^^^ Coulomb's Law isn't up for debate, it's proven empirically. Gravity on the other hand is an unproven theory whose sole existence is to support the fraudulent claim of heliocentrism and the globe. Gravity is unprovable because it is a deception and part of a conspiracy, calling it a law is a bad joke. Sure things fall/sink in predictable manner, that's not the fucking point here however.
There is no such thing as an ''unproven theory'' but nice try. We are still waiting for those pictures of the dome mate. |
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^^^ Why? That's like asking why a nail can't be picked up without a magnet. Just try and induce a magnetic field (paramagnetism) with a block of wood, you can't. The nail doesn't just spontaneously develop a magnetic field it needs a magnet, same with Earth's electric field it doesn't exist without a polarized object or surface to induce the charge.
To give an analogy of how gravity is fraudulent one can observe how electroplating works; two DC electrodes in a gold containing solution and the gold moves and sticks to the negative electrode.
Now if I was to claim the force moving the gold particles was called gravity and it was caused by the mass of the negative electrode pulling the gold particles to it then I'd be wrong. This idea of gravity is wrong and deceptive as it neglects the positive electrode, the electrical circuit and the conductive liquid solution replacing them all with a ubiquitous magic pulling force inherent to only one electrode.
Gravity is fraudulent science and uses the same trickery as the above example.
''Right at the heart of the Earth is a solid inner core, two thirds of the size of the Moon and composed primarily of iron. At a hellish 5,700°C, this iron is as hot as the Sun’s surface, but the crushing pressure caused by gravity prevents it from becoming liquid. Surrounding this is the outer core, a 2,000 km thick layer of iron, nickel, and small quantities of other metals. Lower pressure than the inner core means the metal here is fluid. Differences in temperature, pressure and composition within the outer core cause convection currents in the molten metal as cool, dense matter sinks whilst warm, less dense matter rises. The Coriolis force, resulting from the Earth’s spin, also causes swirling whirlpools. This flow of liquid iron generates electric currents, which in turn produce magnetic fields. Charged metals passing through these fields go on to create electric currents of their own, and so the cycle continues. This self-sustaining loop is known as the geodynam'' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_magnetic_fieldAgain, you are proven wrong, as usual. At the very least I can show you a piece of the dome, a provably manufactured fragment of steel alloy that fell out of the sky. Show me a piece of core motherfucker! You can't even prove we're on a sphere, every so-called proof you've got is either not proof at all, actually proves it's flat or relies on manufactured evidence and mathematical equations with no relationship to reality. There's literally a mountain of established science and documented experiments and observations that proves we're on a stationary plane. Your heavy spherical ball is a pure fantasy along with this molten core of iron. The Curie temperature of iron is about 770°C, stop this fucking conspiracy! ''At the very least I can show you a piece of the dome'' Where are all the pictures of the dome then? We certainly have cameras right? How come no one has photographed it yet? |
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Just popping up to say that if you do a general research on the forum with "hilari" as key word, it's very strange but the ONLY posts showing up are indeed from S_Therapist mdayonliner.
Note that contrary to most of you guys I'm not code-fluent. You maybe have done already far better research.
But it's strange how only those two show up with such simple research.
Try with "hilary" digaran: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4542394.msg41052406#msg41052406Seems like I also used "hilary" too: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4626881.msg41802984#msg41802984Now please read this... Thank you. I noticed digaran used to say "hilari" Digaran used "hilary", not "hilari". D is digaran by the way Yeah but, the point is that hilari is only used by you two. |
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^^^ Yes, you could ignore. It would be easy for evolution believers. Why? Because they ignore that there isn't really any fact for evolution, and that evolution hasn't been proven, and that evolution is simply another form of religion. Let us know when you admit that you made another terrible mistake by thinking the age of the earth is dated using carbon dating. |
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^^^ Why? That's like asking why a nail can't be picked up without a magnet. Just try and induce a magnetic field (paramagnetism) with a block of wood, you can't. The nail doesn't just spontaneously develop a magnetic field it needs a magnet, same with Earth's electric field it doesn't exist without a polarized object or surface to induce the charge.
To give an analogy of how gravity is fraudulent one can observe how electroplating works; two DC electrodes in a gold containing solution and the gold moves and sticks to the negative electrode.
Now if I was to claim the force moving the gold particles was called gravity and it was caused by the mass of the negative electrode pulling the gold particles to it then I'd be wrong. This idea of gravity is wrong and deceptive as it neglects the positive electrode, the electrical circuit and the conductive liquid solution replacing them all with a ubiquitous magic pulling force inherent to only one electrode.
Gravity is fraudulent science and uses the same trickery as the above example.
''Right at the heart of the Earth is a solid inner core, two thirds of the size of the Moon and composed primarily of iron. At a hellish 5,700°C, this iron is as hot as the Sun’s surface, but the crushing pressure caused by gravity prevents it from becoming liquid. Surrounding this is the outer core, a 2,000 km thick layer of iron, nickel, and small quantities of other metals. Lower pressure than the inner core means the metal here is fluid. Differences in temperature, pressure and composition within the outer core cause convection currents in the molten metal as cool, dense matter sinks whilst warm, less dense matter rises. The Coriolis force, resulting from the Earth’s spin, also causes swirling whirlpools. This flow of liquid iron generates electric currents, which in turn produce magnetic fields. Charged metals passing through these fields go on to create electric currents of their own, and so the cycle continues. This self-sustaining loop is known as the geodynam'' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_magnetic_fieldAgain, you are proven wrong, as usual. |
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^^^ The Earth's measured electric field is indirect evidence of induction from a source that by virtue can only be a polarized surface. Analysis of the nickel-iron oxide on meteorite fragmets should provide the tangible evidence of perminent electrical polarization of the domes oxide surface that you're asking for. Perhaps this analysis may already exist as part of existing data from meteorite samples...  The preceeding image is a meteorite fragmet manufactured from extra-long grain Damascus type steel, this is the highest quality steel known to man and it falls out of the sky. ''The Earth's measured electric field is indirect evidence of induction from a source that by virtue can only be a polarized surface.'' Why? ''The natural electric field of the Earth refers to the planet Earth having a natural direct current (DC) electric field or potential gradient from the ground upwards to the ionosphere. The static fair-weather electric field in the atmosphere is ~150 volts per meter (V/m) near the Earth's surface, but it drops exponentially with height to under 1 V/m at 30 km altitude, as the conductivity of the atmosphere increases.'' ''Analysis of the nickel-iron oxide on meteorite fragmets'' That proves meteorites are real? |
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^^^ Coulomb's Law.
The inner surface of the dome is polarized and forms the anode, the ground is the cathode. In terms of electron flow the ground (-) is the source of electrons and they flow to the dome (+).
Since electrons are the lightest they flow up (+) to the positively charged surface and as they flow up more dense matter flows down (-) towards the negatively charged ground. This force acting on dense materials is what "modern science" is fraudulently claiming to be gravity.
''The inner surface of the dome is polarized and forms the anode'' Where is the evidence for this? |
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