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1021  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: February 14, 2019, 08:52:37 PM
I'm curious why everyone is always talking about NASA. Lets just agree that they are evil and move onto the next point, what about the dozen other prominent space agencies in the world, and all of the less prominent ones? Then we can move onto astronomy departments all over the world, and then the slightly smaller ones at universities, and then the hobbyist ones.

Which ones are evil if you don't mind me asking?


Are you being serious when you say that NASA is "evil"? Why would you think this? What's so evil about wanting to make advancement in science, technology and our understand of the universe as we know it?

No, I don't think NASA is evil. I was just conceding a point for the sake of getting onto the next part. I know why they "photoshop" their pictures. Its the same reason why magazines airbrush models. To point out key features and clean up the image so people can focus on what they are supposed to be focusing on. A lot of NASA photoshop is brightening stars so people can actually see them, correcting the colors to make up for red/blue shift, and such. Believe it or not, objects 8.7 billion light years away don't appear all that bright. They don't photoshop the Loch Ness monster in.

Its not really dishonest, but if I wanted to spend all day arguing why their use of photoshop is acceptable, we just get further away from whatever the key issue is, which at this point I've actually forgotten what it is. So I'll just agree that NASA is evil and move onto the other space agencies that no one seems to acknowledge exists. Its reaching the point where any guy with a GED and $200 can observe the shape of the earth, but we'll still have people argue that the sky is brown.

Science cannot coincide with religion, though that doesn't mean they can't coexist. Science doesn't rely on faith, so if you start making assumptions based on faith, there is no point trying to prove anything with science. People are absolutely free to believe whatever they want, and I'm not here to change anyone's mind. I've posted a few times in this thread for the people who are genuinely skeptical and would like some information. I don't debate flat earth believers anymore than I attempt to convert Mormons to something else.

If anyone has any real unified theories that can be tested and prove that the earth is flat, even if its not, you are probably going to win a Nobel prize for accidentally discovering something in applied mathematics at the very least. Stay crazy and stumble across something useful!

"I don't think" statement is no proof. Either you know or you don't.

Let me remind you of some facts that proves the evil roots of nasa. And btw all "space" agencies are controlled by main agency - nasa.









''And btw all "space" agencies are controlled by main agency - nasa.'' Well if you say so or a youtube video said so, IT MUST BE TRUE!!!11
1022  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS is nothing compared to U.S. cops. on: February 14, 2019, 03:53:36 PM

Statistically police brutality is less than 0.1% of the cops mate, I already showed you stats.

Well, Google doesn't really go along with your stats, even if they say they do, formally. Try a bunch of antonyms for "brutality" in Google, and you might possibly get triple the hits that you would with police brutality. That doesn't equal out to 0.1%.

If you Google a bunch of words that are synonyms of "brutality," you get a whole bunch more hits for brutality.

I guess I'm a little surprised at how many people are against cops. Besides, that wasn't the point. The point was that ISIS does their job way better than cops, if they terrorize or if they don't. Why? Because cops aren't supposed to terrorize at all. But there are times when ISIS gets to take a break from terrorizing.

Cool

Right, because google results = real statistics? If I type ''gay'' in google and I get 2.3b results, does it mean that there are 2.3b gays in the world? Are you actually dumb? There were like 1000 people killed in 2018 by police and that's overall, not counting which were justified or not but even then that's still not even 1% of cops.

I admit that I haven't been running around questioning people about the way they feel about cops. Have you?

Wherever you get your stats from, how do you know they are being reported on correctly and honestly. If it is from polls, they can be adjusted any way the pollsters want to adjust them. And the questions asked of people polled are often very ambiguous in their meaning between the pollster and the people polled.

Google hits is a much better way of taking a look at how people really feel.

Further, the percentage doesn't matter with this comparison between ISIS and cops. Why? Because ISIS is expected to terrorize at times, but not at other times. Cops are expected to never terrorize.

In America, have you ever heard of innocent 'til proven guilty? The jails are full of people awaiting trial, who were not violent, and are not proven guilty. And the prisons are full of innocent people who harmed no-one, but were talked into agreeing that they were guilty, by the courts. And cops terrorized them to put them there. Cops are way worse than ISIS.

Cool

''Because ISIS is expected to terrorize at times, but not at other times. Cops are expected to never terrorize.'' Again, wrong analogy, just because ISIS is expected to kill people doesn't mean cops are worse than ISIS because they are not expected to kill people.

What's worse?

ISIS killing 5000 people

or

Cops killing 200 people


1023  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS is nothing compared to U.S. cops. on: February 14, 2019, 09:47:28 AM

Statistically police brutality is less than 0.1% of the cops mate, I already showed you stats.

Well, Google doesn't really go along with your stats, even if they say they do, formally. Try a bunch of antonyms for "brutality" in Google, and you might possibly get triple the hits that you would with police brutality. That doesn't equal out to 0.1%.

If you Google a bunch of words that are synonyms of "brutality," you get a whole bunch more hits for brutality.

I guess I'm a little surprised at how many people are against cops. Besides, that wasn't the point. The point was that ISIS does their job way better than cops, if they terrorize or if they don't. Why? Because cops aren't supposed to terrorize at all. But there are times when ISIS gets to take a break from terrorizing.

Cool

Right, because google results = real statistics? If I type ''gay'' in google and I get 2.3b results, does it mean that there are 2.3b gays in the world? Are you actually dumb? There were like 1000 people killed in 2018 by police and that's overall, not counting which were justified or not but even then that's still not even 1% of cops.
1024  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS is nothing compared to U.S. cops. on: February 14, 2019, 01:07:53 AM
ISIS acts as ISIS does because that's the way they are supposed to act.

Cops in Arizona are forbidden by Arizona law from asking for ID without a reason. The turn signal thing was simply an excuse to make people think that they had a reason.

In other words, ISIS is law abiding because they do what they are lawfully meant to do... terrorize.

Cops are worse than ISIS because they terrorize when they are strictly forbidden from terrorizing, but they do it anyway.

Cool

Horribly wrong analogy. Anyone is like ISIS then when they do what they are not meant to?

''Cops are worse than ISIS because they terrorize'' Also I have shown you that most cops 99.9%+ are good cops and the other ones do not terrorize either since it doesn't fit the definition of terrorism.

In certain ways, anyone who does wrong is like ISIS. But if the wrong doesn't include terrorism as ISIS does, then they are not like ISIS.

And I have shown you that there aren't any good cops. All of them will back the police union in almost any case, no matter how the police union decides, good, bad, or indifferent. The best that cops might be is silent on an issue.

Cool

The ''police union'' is formed by a few people so I don't know what your point is. Cops when acting wrong are not using terrorism, by definition.

I don't know what you are talking about. All big-city cops are in a branch or chapter of the Police Union. Many of the rest of them are, as well.

Perhaps the legal definition of terrorism doesn't include the terrorizing that cops do. But there are a whole lot of average people who include cop terrorism in their common law definition.

Google gives us almost 30 million hits on police brutality. You can find loads of people who talk about police terrorism.

Cool

Statistically police brutality is less than 0.1% of the cops mate, I already showed you stats.
1025  Other / Off-topic / Re: Jesus Christ is comming back here on: February 13, 2019, 10:08:09 PM
This is nonsense. There is no Jesus or God or anything like that. The only reason you embrace this belief is because it makes you feel better about dying one day. What a waste of time.

Agree with that. Christianity is another business minded religion, and the sole intention of those who propagate it is to get themselves rich. The Catholic church is perhaps the richest organization in the world, with net assets worth close to $10 trillion. Even then, most of the Christian believers in Africa and Asia live in a state of destitution.
Well, that the Catholic Church is a whore and did bastardize the Bible doctrine doesn't  mean God doesn't exist. Your narration doesn't add up. Again, being an atheist doesn't also deny the existence of God. It only beclouds the sense of judgment of anyone indulging in atheism self denial of what is truly in existence.

Besides, you can get copies of the Septuagint, a Greek Bible that is way older than the Catholic Bible.

Cool

https://www.quora.com/Did-the-Bible-copy-some-of-its-stories-from-other-religious-myths-and-legends

True, you can get stories way older than the bible.
1026  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS is nothing compared to U.S. cops. on: February 13, 2019, 10:05:10 PM
ISIS acts as ISIS does because that's the way they are supposed to act.

Cops in Arizona are forbidden by Arizona law from asking for ID without a reason. The turn signal thing was simply an excuse to make people think that they had a reason.

In other words, ISIS is law abiding because they do what they are lawfully meant to do... terrorize.

Cops are worse than ISIS because they terrorize when they are strictly forbidden from terrorizing, but they do it anyway.

Cool

Horribly wrong analogy. Anyone is like ISIS then when they do what they are not meant to?

''Cops are worse than ISIS because they terrorize'' Also I have shown you that most cops 99.9%+ are good cops and the other ones do not terrorize either since it doesn't fit the definition of terrorism.

In certain ways, anyone who does wrong is like ISIS. But if the wrong doesn't include terrorism as ISIS does, then they are not like ISIS.

And I have shown you that there aren't any good cops. All of them will back the police union in almost any case, no matter how the police union decides, good, bad, or indifferent. The best that cops might be is silent on an issue.

Cool

The ''police union'' is formed by a few people so I don't know what your point is. Cops when acting wrong are not using terrorism, by definition.
1027  Other / Off-topic / Re: Jesus Christ is comming back here on: February 13, 2019, 07:00:18 PM
Since you are blind to it, it won't be real for you until you get there.

Nice god you imagine you have.   Create me just to torture me for all eternity.   Wink


God works in mysterious ways....

God created all people for His glory and theirs. If you want to throw your glory away, that's up to you. God allows you this freedom... or freedom to be saved if you want. When Jesus comes back, it will be too late to change your mind.

Cool

When is that?  Could you, Jesus, God, the three Musketeers (Son, Father and the Holy Spirit) be more specific?

BTW,  it is never too late to change one's mind.  Read your fucking Christian mythology.  It is right there.

Rapists, serial killers change their mind every day and are all forgiven.  Born again 'Christians'.

God gave people brain, enabled some of them with critical thinking skills, provided no evidence of his existence,
played hide and seek for millennia,  and then he will punish those who used their head to not believe in pagan myths without evidence?  

Are you sure you thought this through?

Ask Jesus to post here, or shut the fuck up about your imaginary friend.

There is literally no point for god to wait to come back. He could literally create as many humans as he wants anyways at any time, pointless.
1028  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS is nothing compared to U.S. cops. on: February 13, 2019, 06:59:34 PM
ISIS acts as ISIS does because that's the way they are supposed to act.

Cops in Arizona are forbidden by Arizona law from asking for ID without a reason. The turn signal thing was simply an excuse to make people think that they had a reason.

In other words, ISIS is law abiding because they do what they are lawfully meant to do... terrorize.

Cops are worse than ISIS because they terrorize when they are strictly forbidden from terrorizing, but they do it anyway.

Cool

Horribly wrong analogy. Anyone is like ISIS then when they do what they are not meant to?

''Cops are worse than ISIS because they terrorize'' Also I have shown you that most cops 99.9%+ are good cops and the other ones do not terrorize either since it doesn't fit the definition of terrorism.
1029  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: February 13, 2019, 10:27:11 AM
That the Sun, Moon and stars are but lights in the sky doesn't require believing anything at all!

Like a litter of gullible farm animals born yesterday and still soft in the head, it seems people would rather believe the faggot liars and their bullshit stories of giant heavy balls in the sky instead of their own eyes and senses. All these Jews, Masons and Jesuits that are lying to your face and orchestrating this massive circus are literal ass fucking, cock sucking satanic faggots!

Well the moon is certainly not just a star, you can see it has distinct marks just like other planets you can see with a telescope and you think those are made by god through a projector for what purpose exactly?
1030  Other / Off-topic / Re: Jesus Christ is comming back here on: February 13, 2019, 10:26:02 AM
Since you are blind to it, it won't be real for you until you get there.

Nice god you imagine you have.   Create me just to torture me for all eternity.   Wink




God works in mysterious ways....
1031  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: February 12, 2019, 11:24:15 AM
^^^ You're a massive sack of shit for claiming it's God that's being deceptive here.

You just claimed it was god who made some projectors to make it look like there is a sun or a moon or planets, didn't you?

First God created the dome (firmament) and the light (projector) then, he made the Sun, Moon and stars (planets are wandering stars). There's no fucking deception here!

It's liars like you that insist the luminaries are giant heavy balls in an empty space. There's nothing in anybody's daily life that indicates we're on a spinning globe in a vacuum going around a milllion mile wide thermonuclear bomb except, the fake pictures of ball earth NASA produces that you're brainwashed with on TV and in school textbooks.

The lights in the sky are just that, lights in the sky. You're the liar being deceptive you absolute faggot!

Right so he created some lights and other stars and planets for no fucking apparent reason but they are not even planets or anything just lights projected on the dome, perhaps to make the sky look cooler, eh? You are a fucking moron.
1032  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: February 12, 2019, 10:29:00 AM
^^^ You're a massive sack of shit for claiming it's God that's being deceptive here.

You just claimed it was god who made some projectors to make it look like there is a sun or a moon or planets, didn't you?
1033  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: February 12, 2019, 09:45:54 AM
long time listener, 1st time caller Cheesy

Does the "flat-earth" theory hold true to other planets / our moon / sun?

According to notbatman, it's all holographic projections around the dome.

I wonder why The Great Projectionist would want to make stars and planets appear to be round instead of disc shaped. Why bother with them at all if we're already the center of the universe? Seems like he (she/it) is going wildly out of their way to pull a fast one on us. Prankster God at it again.

He never really explains what he means by projections or why they are there or who is making them or how does it work at all.

They (the luminaries i.e. Sun, Moon, stars, planets, etc...) are 3-D holographic projections off of a concave mirror (the dome or firmament).

Here's an example of a similar effect with a "magic mirror":


The old arcade game "time traveler" is perhaps a better example:


I can't say much about the source of the projections other that it's technology engineered by God. I suspect that ocean tides result from cooling the projector but that's just a guess; water could be pumped via magnetohydrodynamic pumping action as the salt makes sea water electrically conductive. I also suspect some of the projection hardware is manipulated via frictionless diamagnetics for levitation & motion of components.

I can make all sorts of guesses about the how it works but due to its highly unfalsifiable nature, making any solid statements about it will need to wait until more facts come to light.

''off of a concave mirror'' Where is the mirror then?

'' that it's technology engineered by God'' So god made some weird projectors to make it look like the earth isn't flat, sounds logical.
1034  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: February 11, 2019, 06:55:00 PM
long time listener, 1st time caller Cheesy

Does the "flat-earth" theory hold true to other planets / our moon / sun?

According to notbatman, it's all holographic projections around the dome.

I wonder why The Great Projectionist would want to make stars and planets appear to be round instead of disc shaped. Why bother with them at all if we're already the center of the universe? Seems like he (she/it) is going wildly out of their way to pull a fast one on us. Prankster God at it again.

He never really explains what he means by projections or why they are there or who is making them or how does it work at all.
1035  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Elizabeth Warren Doesn't Understand Wealth Taxes on: February 09, 2019, 07:34:44 PM
.....
Never understood when people attack greed for being wrong. Greed isn't wrong, it's what started this country and what is going to continue to define it. I see little to no purpose in life if you're not continuously longing for some sort of end goal -- which is you, being greedy, and chasing a goal.

Punishing those that are job creators isn't going to work, and its seen in countries such as Venezuela the horrid atrocities that can come out of that mentality.

It's a standard socialist trick.

What I never understood about it is the simple fact that the greed of a person, like you or I, could never even begin to approach the greed of a country to steal from its citizens.

I guess we all think that until we actually achieve that kind of power, not saying all people would steal too but power certainly seems to change people.
1036  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: February 09, 2019, 08:02:22 AM
Photographic evidence is the weakest and most easily fabricated kind of proof, not to mention all lenses are prone to distortion to some degree. Everybody screaming show me pictures is a moron or a fucking lampshade who doesn't want this issue resolved at any cost.

The truth is this issue was resolved in 1887 with the Michelson–Morley experiment, the Earth is motionless and can not be a spinning globe.

''Michelson–Morley type experiments have been repeated many times with steadily increasing sensitivity. These include experiments from 1902 to 1905, and a series of experiments in the 1920s. More recent optical resonator experiments confirmed the absence of any aether wind at the 10−17 level.[2][3] Together with the Ives–Stilwell and Kennedy–Thorndike experiments, Michelson–Morley type experiments form one of the fundamental tests of special relativity theory.[A 3]''
1037  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Elizabeth Warren Doesn't Understand Wealth Taxes on: February 06, 2019, 09:42:32 AM
If anyone is considered a leech on society it should be the wealthy.  They make money off renting houses, dividend paying stocks, etc.  They make money off OTHER peoples work.  No one is self made, without society their inventions would have never been successful.  We should all be a team working for a greater goal, not fighting against each other.



Yeah no shit, without society nothing would ever exist, what's your point? It's like saying, ''your restaurant would have no customers without society'' Yeah no shit.
1038  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Elizabeth Warren Doesn't Understand Wealth Taxes on: February 05, 2019, 01:42:17 PM
Taxes are apportioned as equally as possible. This means that if the wealthy are taxed, they will all be taxed somewhat equally. Where do they get their money to pay their taxes? They pass it on to us little people by increasing the price of their products and services they sell to us.

Elizabeth Warren knows this. She is simply trying to make herself look popular in the eyes of the simple minded Dems who DON'T know this, so that she might get elected to something next time around.

Cool

They don't have to increase the price of anything to make money, though, their services will always cost money.
1039  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: February 05, 2019, 12:12:31 PM
^^^ I provided a photograph (halo), I provided physical evidence (meteorite), I provided proven physics (Coulom's Law), not to mention page 1 of the bible states in no uncertain terms that we're covered by a dome (firmament).

Scientific proof of "outer space": none. Scientific proof of "gravity": none. Scientific proof of "heavy balls in the sky": none. Scientific proof of "heliocentrism": none. Biblical proof of any of this crap: nope.

Fuck you and your lies!



Edit:
Oh, and about that ice wall just fucking type "Antarctic ice wall" into Google Images, you're so full of shit.

You provided no photos, there should be thousands and thousands of photos of the dome, considering it's everywhere, what about a mini rocket? Anyone could have sent a mini rocket to touch the dome, of course this never happens.

Asking for the weakest and most easily fabricated form of evidence for the most unfalsifiable aspect of our planet, what a fucking schmuck you are.

Despite the fact physical limitations such as the atmosphere and thousands of miles, I still managed post an image resulting from the presence of the dome two pages back in post #14533; you're a fucking liar. You're also a fucking idiot if you think a model rocket can ascend to an altitude of 3,000 miles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB_nEtZxPog

And it doesn't hit the dome, amazing :^)
1040  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: February 05, 2019, 11:09:26 AM
^^^ I provided a photograph (halo), I provided physical evidence (meteorite), I provided proven physics (Coulom's Law), not to mention page 1 of the bible states in no uncertain terms that we're covered by a dome (firmament).

Scientific proof of "outer space": none. Scientific proof of "gravity": none. Scientific proof of "heavy balls in the sky": none. Scientific proof of "heliocentrism": none. Biblical proof of any of this crap: nope.

Fuck you and your lies!



Edit:
Oh, and about that ice wall just fucking type "Antarctic ice wall" into Google Images, you're so full of shit.

You provided no photos, there should be thousands and thousands of photos of the dome, considering it's everywhere, what about a mini rocket? Anyone could have sent a mini rocket to touch the dome, of course this never happens.
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