That is nonsense RivAngE. 

You cannot be attributing so much significance to coinmarket cap numbers, and sure some people are dumb enough to think the placement of BTC on that list is a reflection of fundamentals, but smart money knows better, and in the end, it does not matter if Ripple, for example, reaches $100, because it is a manipulated and centralized coin, and really does not add value in terms of fundamental value that is added through bitcoin.

Surely, as far as I understand, Theymos is the owner of the forum, so he has full and complete discretion regarding how to set up the Trust system and who to place as DT1s.  Sure, there could be some ways that Theymos could change the DT system around or tweak it, but to a certain extent there is likely some locking in of systems that cannot be transitioned in and out at the drop of a hat.

I agree that when you are dealing with holding the money of other people, then there are greater responsibilities than dealing with your own, and surely we are more free to take greater risks with our own money than we are with the money of others.  

I doubt that Theymos would leave OG with that much forum funds if he thought that OG was not aware or capable of carrying out reasonable and appropriate fiduciary responsibilities or if he thought that there may be a more prudent way to spread out the risk or to lessen some possible single points of failures, if that is actually an issue, like you assert.

I just wanted to get a little bit of a better idea regarding your reference in the earlier post.  So thanks for that.

I don't really know any details of what you describe beyond what you have already said, so I don't have any independent reference or judgement about that situation, but sure just going from your description of what happened those kinds of losses could reasonably be considered as monumental fuckups or some similar level of characterization.

O.k.  fair enough.  By the way, I don't need any additional merits (especially if you don't have many to spend), and if you receive one more merit, then you will have an smerit.  you can hodl that smerit and strategically wait for a decent opportunity to spend it or you can spend it like a drunken sailor.  That is completely your choice.

Even if you choose the drunken sailor route, that would be o.k. if you are able to create decent quality posts and interactions that will cause other members to merit your posts.  Good luck, and if you choose to stick around the forum in spite of this merit system and the already existing rankings, I look forward to seeing how your posts might end up reflecting status and or experiences of other possibly great things that might be going on in your real life.

Are you referring to some other monumental fuckup that already had occurred?  And why you using the word "another?"

Interesting that you want to talk out of both sides of your ass on this one?  O.k... sure you may have started out as a joke, but the combination of my response and RivAngE's response were attempts to genuinely respond to the substance of the matter, and giving your content a fair interpretation of what was thought to be intended, with your misunderstood supposed sense of humor.



Good for you; however, this forum and this thread are not just about you, so when you make a post on a public thread, then you are taking a chance that someone might respond and sometimes the responses might go in a direction that were outside of your expectations, and that is how the world works, especially when it comes to dealing with other people.



This sounds like a rhetorical question, yet if you really wanted to know you could read through the thread or merely the OP, and likely you should be able to figure out part of the point.   


It shows something about forum rank, and sometimes real life activities will come into play through time and interaction, perhaps?



Did someone die and put you in charge of my word choices or my tone?  Hm? 

I did not get that memo, and generally, I tend to decide within my own complete discretion regarding my word choices and tone, and surely you cannot expect quasi-anonymous personas on the interwebs to treat you with kid gloves, amirite?   I have determined that so far I have used a more than reasonable amount of courtesy and politeness with you, even though such courtesy and politeness might not be warranted.

Oh my!!!!

From the coindesk article, it appears that the news about coinbase is getting worse and worse.. and growing pains and government document entanglement.. and confusing matters in regards to tax implications.   

I had not even looked into the IRS form 1099k matter, and maybe that will cause more coinbase/gdax drama for me, and apparently for other coinbase customers, too.

My ongoing support ticket matter goes into the end of this week with my ongoing request to get the GDAX portion of my account turned back on, and the latest e-mail from Coinbase is telling me that they are elevating my matter to an even higher level than the support specialist...   

Maybe I will get Brian, himself??? hahahahaha.. I doubt it...    So far, my GDAX has been frozen for about 9 days.


Anyhow, yesterday or the day before I re-uploaded my ID (which I thought that I had already uploaded), and then after receiving another e-mail today from Coinbase saying that they were escalating my matter to a higher level, I tried linking another bank account through Coinbase and thinking that maybe that could resolve some issues and allow me to regain access to my GDAX trading - but nope. 

Coinbase's bank account system did allow me to link another bank account to my Coinbase account, but then their system gave me an error message saying that deposits and withdrawals had been disabled on my account  - so go figure!!!  I cannot do anything.   

All of this seemed to have started out merely because I had attempted to deposit $500 from my Bank of America checking account last week....    But at least I have been informed that my situation is getting further escalated .   

Even though I have been an active poster on the forum for about 4 years, my main hang out has been the WO thread, and essentially wearing folks out in that thread with my participation.  

 I did not delve into Meta very much until recently when trying to figure out about the new merits system, and largely, this is my first time giving very much thought to BTCtalk's Trust system and attempting to follow some of this latest drama around Lauda....

How you getting anything done Lauda?  I am sure part of the distraction of Lauda being able to focus on substantive Bitcoin or abusive thread matters comes from the receipt of ongoing personal attacks....  

In the past couple of years, I have found Lauda to be quite helpful in a lot of ways in clarifying bitcoin technical matters for me, and helping me to get access to my account back, on two occasions, and, especially helpful in the past year with dealing with some of the BIG blocker trash discussions that were infiltrating bitcoin threads, and surely there has been a lot of battles in the past couple of years on the forum in bitcoin threads regarding BIG blockers and Bcash shills, so those kinds of distractions seem fair topics to address through RED trust.  Nonetheless, I question how much utility comes from any DT1 or DT2 giving RED trust regarding practices in the newly deployed merit system - at least in the early stages of the deployment, unless the merit abuse was really obvious and egregious.

So there had been some RED trust taggers who were possibly tagging for reasons that were a bit too broad, by Lauda and others, yet I understand that battles around Lauda are a bit more complex than merely suggesting that she should NOT tag on certain subjects, because the rationale for RED tagging likely overlaps with the use of alt accounts, and perhaps overlapping and ongoing exaggerated personal attacks directed towards Lauda.

3rd reason... who gives a ratt's ass if you are correct or not, and you are bragging about your supposed ability to predict

4th reason... comes off as merit begging...

5th reason ... there are decent ways to actually earn merit without begging... for instance, go out there and have fun with your posts,  post on subjects that you like, genuinely interact with other posters in the thread, and provide meaningful information and merits will likely follow without any need for outright begging

To the extent that I was attempting to follow the back and forth communications, it seems that there was some ambiguity whether an actual bet had been entered into clearly and unambiguously, so ultimately, I agree with you that there was a decently high level of ambiguity regarding the commitment level of each side and whether the terms were agreed to by both sides.

I can appreciate 600watt's position too that he had seemingly committed to entering the bet,  and the BTC market was just moving against the level of 600watt's BTC bullish conviction. 

Still it is ironic about this crazy ass BTC price movement, and currently, it seems that the odds are getting quite better that BTC's price bottom for this round "is in".. but yeah, you never know and solidly getting above $10k and staying above $10k for a decent amount of time will likely give us further assurance that the $5920 bottom was the actual bottom for this time around.

I presumed that we could not have a top without a bottom, and probably it would be better to have a seriously serious professional power bottom rather than some wimpy ass run of the mill bottom.

And, I equally or greater don't give a shit whether you want a merit from me or not or if you appreciate such merit or not.  I am just striving with a certain high degree of effort to find any kind of drivel coming out of your keyboard that warrants some semblance of recognition, and all I seem to encounter is cricket puzzles of ambiguity.  


Thanks for clarifying that reading of the tea leafs warning.


Oh my!!!!!   Tell me how you really feel, PoolMinor, you ongoingly butt hurt emotional bag of two year old riddles.   

Yeah!!!!!





Seems like we need some seriously serious professional power bottoms in here.   







Bob, can you  make any referrals?

suchmoon did his due diligence, and he pasted my ranting, seemingly stream of consciousness, text towards poolminor... almost worthy of a merit from yo mismo  

I agree that FOMO is not likely to kick in anytime before we start to get close to current ATH.... so perhaps in the $18-19k price territory, and maybe not even until it becomes fairly clearly going to break above the ATH... which is a certain 5-10% striking distance of such...   Until then, we are going to need to deal with a decent amount of ongoing resistance all the way up towards returning to ATH territories...


Hey BTCMILLIONAIRE... I don't want to pry too much into your particulars, but did you come up with your user name based on factual circumstances or an aspiration?  I see that your registration to the forum was during a period in late 2014 in which faith was becoming increasingly lost in BTC, so there was quite a bit less balling going on at that point.. even though loss of faith shook out more folks in the next 12 months or so into the lows of 2015.

I did just look at your first posts, and it appears that you were aspiring to obtain 1 BTC... so millionnaire could have been measured in terms of Satoshis too... Do you want to overview your BTC journey, without necessarily providing too many personal details?  I have shared mine about a zillion times, but I still like to hear about other folks, especially when they seem to share bullish yet seemingly realistic BTC views.

You may have seen my posts on the topic previously, and in September 2017, my preset buy orders were only set down for a 50% price correction, which almost happened in mid-september when price corrected 40% from $4,980 down to $2,970.  I could have bought down quite a bit further with some juggling around of money that was not on exchanges, so I attempted to learn a lesson from that and I attempted to keep my preset buy orders set down to $3k, which ended up being a 85% correction and thereafter I would go to manual mode.  Some of my presetting of orders has messed up recently and it only goes down to $4k partly because of my attempt to use some money on other exchanges to balance my lack of access to my coinbase situation (hopefully temporary). 

I have preset money to go down to below $1k, but really I was thinking that I could just spend some of that money rather than keeping it ear-tagged for bitcoin, because there seems to be little likelihood for any correction below 85% this time around, and even less likely for a greater than 95% price correction (using $19,666 as the starting price reference point). 

It has been about a week since I first generated my Coinbase support tickets, and so far they have been able to confirmed that my previously hacked account has not been accessible by anyone such as a hacker, and there must have been a system error that generated the e-mail that was sent to me.  Regarding my getting frozen out of my regular account, that has not been resolved yet after several follow ups, including one follow up that caused me to re upload my identification documents, so I am still waiting on them, and it seems that a couple of days passes between each of the responses that I receive from them..... I would like to get the matter sorted out soon in order to return a bit more balance to my various accounts, and for now, I am just dealing with it by attempting to balance the absence of one account by over compensate with my remaining trading accounts.

You seem to purposefully like to read certain peeps (perhaps yours truly out of context).  My asserted getting worked up about a 3% downfall in BTC price was meant as a bit facetiousness, and a means to exaggerate the impact of a price drop on me that brought BTC prices down less than half a day.

Regarding ignoring posters, maybe you could only wish for such?  I don't do it.  I actually would not mind giving you a merit for some post, but so far, I am having difficulties finding any kind of valuable posts of yours to merit.  In the end, I don't know what kind of fathoming I would need to do, if any, about your seemingly unimportant and ambiguous BTC price prediction statements.  I am certainly capable of deciding for myself how to categorize that kind of information.

I don't know his details, but I believe that recently he was allowed to have a channel on the world crypto network, which is largely a bitcoin maximalist kind of perspective, and I am not sure if he put out any shows through that WCN relationship.  Heart's interview and flip flop got quite a bit of attention because he was known in the bitcoin maximalism community for several years.  I don't care to research into him too much, but I doubt that his voice is going away any time soon, and he seems to be a bit of a drama queen, too, so we will see how much additional attention he gets to his shifting position in the future.   

I am not going to do your puzzle, and sure it would be nice if you could just describe what you want to say, but apparently hide the ball is something that you prefer to employ, and whatever keep your secrets to yourself or take your balls and go home, whatever... let's move on with more meaningful discussions... including the depression of our current about $300 correction that put's us in the doldrums of BTC prices that are about the same as they were 10 hours ago... Fuck... all that progress, and then we suffer a BTC crash.