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19581  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2018, 07:06:45 AM
Seriously, how can we keep hitting new lows again and agai ?
What are people thinking about ? Is everybody here trying to sell now to buy back at a later dip ?

Btc was never worth 5 digits to begin with
i don't even think it's worth 4 digits right now

Que manera de decir estupideces, troll barato.


Hahahahahaha

It could be true that we have to spend a bit more time in the four digits.

We did go through the 4 digits quite quickly, so maybe spending a bit more time in four digits could be helpful in our transition to five digits and then perhaps to 6 digits, next...

Pretty much 3 digits is nearing an impossibility. 

3 digits are not completely impossible, but getting in the pretty low percentage territory.. perhaps less than 1% - give or take.
19582  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2018, 06:26:46 AM
The floor is in. A certain family member just sold, the poor bastard.
Could be.  Had someone I know swallow a 50% loss and leave.  The problem of course is they aren’t coming back any time soon so where the fresh money will come from?


Fuck them.  It's called weak hand, because it appears that they failed or refused to plan for down. 

Of course, this down is a bit much, but if we buy during a pump, we have to expect that the pump could reverse.

We will see them back in about 2-5 years, perhaps, and maybe even less when they are buying when the price goes between $25k and $50k..
19583  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: February 06, 2018, 05:53:08 AM
[edited out]
 
Read you illiterate moron. I wrote before that I have not been on Bitcoin.com for a while. I have no interest to go back too. I have no need of Bitcoin.com. Bitcointalk is more than sufficient. It is retards like you who spam too much and ruin this forum for others.

Through your pro-bitcoin.com arguments, you have already shown yourself capable of determining what makes a good forum and good forum contributions, when you cannot even decipher meaningful differences between this forum and bitcoin.com?  I wonder?  

You likely have troubles figuring out various differences between bitcoin, bcash and other cryptos, too so - I have my doubts whether you really have any kind of sound abilities to point out difference between a good post and a bad one or even to recognize whether some words on a page rise to the level of spam or meaningful contributions, or if the spam slapped you in the face or if it were to come out of a can, labelled "spam".  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Confidence NOT inspired. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy 
19584  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2018, 04:35:56 AM
Im just buying piecemeal now. Im not even trying to guess or trade the bottom - itll bounce too fast.


Tera Bera... reverted to likely temporary incremental bullism.


Go figure!     Cheesy Cheesy  Crazy times call for crazy happenings.   Wink
19585  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2018, 04:31:40 AM
Doesn't anyone here have a life?

Not when their lambo dreams are even futher delayed  Cool



With all due respect, we lost our imaginary Lambos weeks ago. Roll Eyes

But Bob's still got his new Porsche.  And the old one, it sounds like.  Seems like best bet is to skip the imaginary ones, and get a real one.  They last longer!


EXACTAmente.

The best way to get rich, is to start out rich.

hahahahaha
19586  Economy / Speculation / Re: Top 20 days for Bitcoin on: February 06, 2018, 03:27:16 AM
[edited out]

Hey dooglus:

What are you thinking about 99?  You think that is going to be the limit? 

Or maybe we are going to start to get depressed if the charts were to go beyond 99?  Thoughts? 

I appreciate 99 because I think that it remains valuable information that is already largely in place, based on your system - even on a historical level, but not sure about how others think about it.
19587  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2018, 03:10:55 AM
Mempool cleaned up nicely.


and yet, electrum still suggesting 100+ satoshi fee



Fuck Electrum.     Angry Angry Angry
19588  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2018, 02:38:56 AM

This whole price discovery process reminds me of that Fight Club scene:

"I felt like destroying something beautiful."

We all know how the central banks fared at the end of that movie.

"It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything."

7000! Where's our memes?

Get the 8000 memes ready. And most especially $10k.

All those late-to the-party pansy whiners who were wishing, praying for a correction to load up on, here it is. Load up!

The magical Bitcoin time machine only comes around once, twice, three times at most...
i love over 9000 meme


Some of us might start to feel this way about $9k

 






19589  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2018, 02:03:37 AM
I am going to say it again.

Both $100k and $100 Bitcoin are possible.  You need to have a plan for both.  If you don’t have a plan, start making one now.   If you can afford to hodl both, great.  If you can’t, then work out now how you are going to handle it.  


hahahahahahaha


yeah right... let's be planning on the way down.....    Tongue

But you are correct, if you plan is not holding up very well, then you gots to tweak it.      Wink


For a lot of us (we in a similar boat, no?)  this whole situation is not going as well as we had hoped.   Cry Cry
19590  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2018, 01:58:25 AM
That godamn Lambo just slipped thru my fingers


Instead of getting 3 lambos, some of us are going to have to constrain ourselves to one...  Cry   Cry
19591  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2018, 01:22:14 AM
I think that my maintenance stage has become more and more refined, but I don't think that my skills caused the refinement but instead the fortune of our most recent exorbitant price rise from $2,600 to $19,666... .. but yeah, we are back in the doldrums of $8k-ish, but did not stop me from feeling a certain level of comfort from maintenance refinement.  When we get to $100k (assuming we do at some point - perhaps less than 5 years?  perhaps?), then I will likely develop even a more "refined" perspective regarding the significance of maintenance.
I can't help imagining you as you build the phrase and deliver it in a rhythmic deep baritone with hints of Spanish accents. A cigar and your favorite drink are all the props needed for the scene.
(lots of snip snip)
Without conceding any truth of the matter asserted, perhaps reasonable claims can be made that money causes changes in the way each of us carries ourselves, whether in the real world or online?
That does sound likely.
But you haven't told me what your favorite drink for such a speech would be!


I may have to become a bit more cultured with the passage of time, but movie imagery of a piña colada, a beach and a machine gun within reach comes immediately to mind.  I have a few other ideas (such as hookers, blow and a lambo too), but I don't want to muddy it up too much    Cheesy Cheesy
19592  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2018, 12:46:56 AM
In my humble opinion, Bitcoin will be at around $1,000 before the month is out.
The banksters saw it as a huge threat and bought it for fun with their printed paper at any price pushing it to the heights it reached.
Now, they are dumping it all back at cheaper and cheaper prices. This will continue until bitcoin is totally insignificant.
The world is run by Luciferians........They didn't get where they are by being stupid.
The party is over.
They have done much the same thing to precious metals over the last 5 years too.
Their printed paper will always rule sadly.



Give me the drugs tonyq.

My drug is the red pill....yours is obviously the blue one.


Hahahahahahaha


Sounds like tonyq is smarter than everyone in the room...









NOT!!!!
19593  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 06, 2018, 12:42:22 AM
I´ve lost.. but i know it will eventually rise again.. someday.. some year..

I´m a bit concerned about all the newcomers burnt that will never touch btc again.. Chances lost for making new adopters. This kind of fluctuations scare people. This "correction" is not healthy anymore. It poisons btc as currency.


Your post comes off as pathetic -and a kind of victimization tone.

If you lost some money, then figure out how to learn from it... Yeah if you had been gambling too much and preparing only for one direction (such as 10x up), then you got's yourself a problem and you have to attempt to figure out how to learn from yor mistakes and to restructure your strategy in order that you can prepare for either price direction.. which one of the most certain things in bitcoin is volatility rather than any particular price direction.
19594  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: February 05, 2018, 11:00:13 PM
So, how can i get merit score now, my friend?
Please kindly let me know.

Thank you and have a great working day !

By contributing something to the forum. Your entire posting history consists of 110 applications to bounty campaigns and this post.

By contributing something to the forum doesn't necessarily give you merit. A junior member (like me) cannot get easily merit and cannot give merit. Merit points are so low that make it a scarce resource. This resource will never be distributed freely to everyone but to persons that you already know or alt accounts.
In general I agree with merit score, but i suggest available points to distribute should be increased and even jr. members should have some.
I am not a crypto expert, I just started. What contribution of mine could impress the rest so i get merit points?
Is there a report to show merit points received by jr members and related posts (no alt accounts)? I think this report will be disappointing...

Contributing to the forum means getting involved in conversations. If you do that and show you have an interest in crypto and are here to learn and participate then the merit will come. You're new, forget about ranks and merit, just get involved and give it time.

Edit: I just checked your post history. Another almost entirely full of bounty applications. What do you think is merit worthy in that?


Although most of my posts are related to bounties and I am stigmatized for that I still have an opinion to express.
Since bounty related posts are considered  as 'bad', 'spammy' and low quality posts then I suggest the following solution:

1. Replies to bounty threads not to be calculated to users activity.
2. Double or triple the required user activity for promotion to next rank.
3. Keep merit score as an indication of quality and not as part of ranking Promotion.Give more merit points to all members.
4. Create a parallel sub-ranking system related to merit score.This will distinguish members of the same level.

With current status I am afraid members will turn to merit hunters/beggers and merit score will have nothing to do with quality of posts


Instead of seeming to blame others (such as the system), why don't you take matters into your own hands?  If you want to rank up, then engage in substantive threads.  Surely, you can also engage in the shitty threads too, but you are correct that if the only thing that you do is participate in the shitty threads, then it will likely become a lot more difficult for you to earn merits.  So you already seem to know a solution that involves yourself rather than expecting the whole forum system to change around you, right?
19595  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: February 05, 2018, 10:28:50 PM
I don't know why some normal comments/topics by high rank member get contributing very much merit ? For new members like me , it's very hard to achieve merit by someone even we have valuable topics

how would you even know? 

You been registered about two months and you have 14 posts (13 out of 14 largely one-liner posts in the past two days).

I recall that I was on the forum for several months and attempting to interact with other members in bitcoin substantive threads, and it takes a considerable amount of time for other members to get to know you and to respond to you and to interact with your posts (more than a couple of days).

 You could hardly even have experimented with the interaction aspect of this forum if you only have 13 posts in a couple of days, right?

Yes and no.

I dont think merit should only be awarded to highly interactive posts.
He could be in the bitcoin scene since several years but just now found this forum and created an account.
Therefore newbie accounts can have a large knowledge on many topics and contribute high quality posts which should be merit worthy.

Many people here are missing that there is a life outside of this forum and the rank here is only one of many indicators how well informed someone might be about cryptos.

Who fucking gives a shit if you have a life outside of the forum and you have been a lurker on the forum for 8 years?  It does not matter, and no one is going to give you merits because you happen to be a good person in real life if they don't know what that supposed goodness is. 

Further, we don't judge you based on your many accounts and your many speculative and supposed things that were in your good intention head that you meant to say.. We only can only determine based on what is posted, and I summarized mightwalker's posting activities at the time that I read his post as largely two days, so I don't know what purpose you find, B4RF, to speculate that there could be more meritorious things there when it does not fucking matter because none of us would know about such speculative things, and even mightwalker has not even responded to declare any of these kinds of supposedly good things that he might deserve merit for.

I guess you misunderstood me.
I never tried to defend mightwalker (I havent even looked into his posts). I was just upset about the fact that you think that someone with 14 posts cant have enough knowledge to make merit worthy posts.

You are upset that you misread my post and assumed a bunch of bullshit about what I was saying when I did not say it?

I actually looked at mightwalkers stupid-ass one liner posts that covered a span of 2 days...   Yeah, sure, you might find them meritorious or some other user might find them meritorious; however, I found them to be a long fucking way from meritorious.. that is why I made my statement, which in the end was meant to be helpful input for mightwalker or any other person who might be considering a mere 14 nonsubstantial posts to be worthy of merit.  So, even if you did not intend to defend mightwalker, in the end that is what you were doing, and you did not even take the time to attempt to verify what I was saying, which perhaps could have been a bit more of a response to my earlier post.  perhaps?



B4RF, does it genuinely appear to you that the account you and JayJuanGee are discussing fulfills these criteria for somebody with quality posts to contribute as a “Newbie”?  Does that look like a “well informed” person who simply has “a life outside of this forum”?

As above. I never checked his account.
But your post perfectly fits my argumentation, you were able to make quality posts as newbie which are now rewarded.
Nobody has to be a high rank member to make quality posts, any newbie account could have more knowledge in cryptos then most legendarys in this forum.
And now newbies can show this by accumulating merits.

You are coming off with additional bullshit speculation.  Of course a lot of newbies might be smarter, cuter and more meritorious than legendary accounts... So fucking what?  Like I already attempted to say (and apparently, you prefer not to read, but continue to spout out made up and speculative nonsense), for the most part we only get to know the "meritoriousness" of member or his/her posts by reading posts, right?   So we are not going to off the bat assume newbies to be more meritorious than a legendary member based on something like random chance, and you seem to be suggesting either to presume the newbies to be meritorious unless they prove otherwise, and by your comment regarding newbie mightwalker, it seems that you don't even want to account for actual evidence of posts and instead continue to presume a nonsubstantive newbie poster to have merit.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes 

You seem to want to do the opposite of common sense, and your proposed presumptive system, practice, approach, procedure or whatever you want to call it seems like it is going to work wonderfully.  Roll Eyes
19596  Economy / Services / Re: ♠ BETCOIN.AG ♠ Fixed Signature Campaign - Monthly Payments - No Free Spots ♠ on: February 05, 2018, 10:03:02 PM
I just logged into my Betcoin.ag account for the first time in 2018, and it appears that both my early January and my early February payment that appears to have happened a couple of days ago were both in my betcoin.ag account, and they appear to be accurate payment amounts based on my activity levels for December and January. 

I had recalled that in early January the blockchain transaction fees were eating up a large amount of the monthly payment of signature campaign members (maybe nearly all of it), so that was part of the reason that I chose to not even attempt to transfer my early January payment in early January.  The combination of these two months payment and the relatively low current transaction fees did allow me to transfer my remaining balance at .00084087 BTC fees (which is about $6.73 at current BTC prices - don't remind me of current BTC prices of under $8k -ish... ..  Cry Cry).....

Anyhow, thanks for everything Betcoin.ag, including following through with your word (which was payments).

You are still paying almost the same amount of BTC for the transfer, only the USD value is a lot lower. Would probably have been better to have had it transfered using bitcoin cash or litecoin.

Good to hear payment was well received, I'll take a look soon to see if mine has also been credited.

You likely correct about using some other coin for cheaper transactions, but I refuse to use scammer, spammer and bitcoin attack vector bcash for anything, except when I sold the vast majority of my bcash at various points,  mostly in 2017.

Regarding bitcoin specifically, the past couple of weeks seem to have brought a considerable drop in the spamming of the network, so the transaction fees and times have dropped, and the mempool has largely been cleared out... I recall in early January there were fees that were much higher in terms of both bitcoin and dollars, and I had some transactions with $50-$60 transaction fees.. now on the regular network, regular fees are tending to be less than $.25 and priority frequently less than $2, but sometimes going up to $5.. .. and yeah, we can talk in terms of satoshis per byte going down too, but overall transaction fees and times are down.

Rumor is that bcash - trash is planning another attack and pump in mid-February to be coordinated around anarcapulco.. so we will see how that plays out, if the rumors end up being more than rumors (true in other words)...

By the way, regarding fees on any exchange or a third party holding your coins versus suggested fees that you get on a private wallet, most often the fees through exchanges, including betcoin.ag are higher than direct transactions (as you likely realize), whether they are skimming off the top or if they are merely just cushioning, I don't have time to look into any of these matters except to notice that there tends to be a pattern of higher fees and a tendency for more difficulties in customizing your transaction fees when your coins are transferred off of an exchange or from a third party holding your coins.
19597  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 05, 2018, 09:09:27 PM
Like Jimbo would say:

Good morning Bitcoinland I see Bitcoins is $100 dollar cheaper than 3 days ago...  Not low enough for me to run to the ATM.

Didn't Jimbo say that he was going to return to "civilization" today, and probably as soon as Jimbo gets around to buying BTC in his jammies at a local BTM, after taking care of his other more urgent matters, such as getting a cup of mocha and verifying the schedule of Jays' game, then we gonna get some uppity after that, no?
19598  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 05, 2018, 10:26:43 AM
Let’s see what we have in history - picking only long grinding crashes that have lasted more than 7 weeks.  We are currently on week 8.

June 2011:  94%

April 2013:  79%

December 2013:  87%

I think these are our only comparable data points but happy to be corrected. This is not a flash crash.

On this basis we should assume a final price between 79% and 94% down. Let us be conservative and say 75% to 95% price decline.  

On this rationale we should buy aggressively between $4,900 down to $980.  Perhaps we should start earlier than $4900 so as not to be greedy but not too much if we believe the model.
Please show me the 87% crash of December 2013?
I can't see it.
https://imgur.com/a/O4Fmk

He's referring to the extreme ends of the price corrections from $1,163 in December 2013 down to $152 in January 2015 or whenever was the deepest down spike.
19599  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 05, 2018, 10:06:32 AM
Let’s see what we have in history - picking only long grinding crashes that have lasted more than 7 weeks.  We are currently on week 8.

June 2011:  94%

April 2013:  79%

December 2013:  87%

I think these are our only comparable data points but happy to be corrected. This is not a flash crash.

On this basis we should assume a final price between 79% and 94% down. Let us be conservative and say 75% to 95% price decline.  

On this rationale we should buy aggressively between $4,900 down to $980.  Perhaps we should start earlier than $4900 so as not to be greedy but not too much if we believe the model.

Fair enough... regarding your hiatus motivated buy plan.. hahahahaha.. and you better start a bit above $4900 to be safe and not get stuck suffering in fantasy land....   hehehehehehehe...  I am sticking with $1k BTC buy increments, because bitcoin be called in exponential growth phase and in an ongoing bull market.  

Do you really think that going on 8 weeks of correction  (and we are not even to 8 weeks yet) is enough to stop our lovely more than two year long bull run?  

You cannot use some model that is not even very comparable to straight jacket deee honey badger....   Tongue
 


even though perhaps early 2013 would be the closest.. in terms of total circumstances, but you cannot look at just some aspect to try to argue similar levels, because each time is going to be different.. remember how fast early 2013 went up and also how fast it went down, and then it got stuck for more than 6 months...   We are not quite there, and we are not quite there... you are attempting to constrain the honey badger and he does not like your efforts.   Tongue

Honey badger can see what you are trying to do to it:

19600  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 05, 2018, 09:58:09 AM
Did everyone sell yet? Theyre waiting on you. They wont buy until you sell. At least sell a coin or two and take one for the team.


hahahaha


Fair enough proposal, Tera numero dos.  I just cannot get my nervous little bull hoofs to click on the sell button at these seemingly "on sale" price levels.. they just won't cooperate.    Tongue

So what is the reason for this huge huge drop. Seems a bit extreme.


Seems like a 95% or greater chance that bitcoin is really, really, really 100% dead this time.  okey dokey?

I have to talk in percentages, otherwise you won't understand me.   Tongue
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