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1961  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Mark Magsayo vs Rey Vargas WBC Featherweight Title (July 9) on: May 11, 2022, 07:12:58 PM
but what do you think will be the odds here? i think, magsayo may be a lil bit favourite here as he is the title holder and vargas is a challenger. though we have seen the odds between canelo and bivol, where canelo is the heavy favourite even if he is the challenger, making bivol the underdog. so let's see what odds they will give on this match.

It should be Magsayo as a Favorite but I can't find a source yet. Much younger than 5 years than Vargas, currently in prime, undefeated, a champion, I know Vargas is a big name but Magsayo should be able to handle him contrary to what others are expecting.

Anyway, on that Canelo vs Bivol, the reason why Canelo becomes a favorite even as a challenger is because of the former's being an undisputed champion entering the light heavyweight compared to Bivol prior he faced Canelo, he is just doing a title defense.
Nah mate, I really don't expect that Magsayo will be listed as a favorite on this fight because his opponent is Rey Vargas who is also in his prime, undefeated, a former champion and much more experienced in the boxing industry compared to Magsayo who's just starting to build his name after getting impressive wins in his last few fights. Also, Vargas have the height and reach advantage, this will be going a challenge for Magsayo.
1962  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: High Rollers on: May 11, 2022, 06:31:51 PM
Yes, for small gamblers, we don't intend to gamble for fun at most times. We aim to win and take the profit with us whenever we're winning with those bets.
Sometimes, we do it for fun but you know that you're going to do it with a very little amount that you're not going to mind whether you win with it or lose it.
Depends on someones aims or motives because there are small amount gamblers who do really wishes to make their capital becomes big or even to hit up jackpots or big multipliers or something which do really falls out

into the category on aiming for profits and not really for the fun that they do really seek off.It all matters on someones perception or treatment towards gambling whether they do play for fun or simple for making money.HIgh rollers are normal because it would really exist on every casino which there are players who do really spend up money likes there's no tomorrow behind.
I think small gamblers can also win huge sums of money because as we know luck can come to every gambler, no matter if he is a big or small gambler. But if the gambler's goal is to hit the jackpot or a big multiplier or more, then he needs to rethink that it won't be easy.

Actually, we don't need to chase profit because what we want in playing gambling is the pleasure of playing the many games available on gambling sites. If we have got the pleasure, we should immediately leave or quit the game.
Everyone can but there's only few gamblers that have actually did it because of mere luck, it's just they need to know and understand that it's not an easy path towards that way and there's a very high chance that you could lose a couple bucks first before you win big time as we always have experienced. But yes, I do a agree that we should have to know our line and when to stop even if it's too tempting already.
But it is still wise enough to know not to rely on luck alone because there's really no telling on when and where this factor could hit you big time. It is still wise to control your emotions that chasing unknown roads.

There are also other people who is really determined to play and gamble most of the time until their day comes but yes, you're right, only few have only managed to hit the jackpot and we couldn't really tell if we can hit a big time money even once in our whole lifetime.
1963  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: May 11, 2022, 06:10:49 PM
Looks like the Miami Heat find a way to stop the 76ers from further gaining momentum and leading the series, they just stop Embiid and play hard defense against the 76ers holding them to score two digits only while they were sinking shots anywhere shape they performed. Does it look like Heat in 6? What about you guys? how do you see this game tonight, any chance for the 76ers to force a game 7 in their next game after what happened to Embiid, or are they will gonna lose the next one too?



It was a complete team effort from the Heat, they were able to limit Embiid all round, especially keeping him of the free throw line, he had only 3 free throw attempts all game long, I can't remember the last he had that little trip to the line, and Heat played great defense without picking up easy and early fouls.

I think the 76ers could still force a game 7, it's not all over yet.
Game 6 is set to be hosted by Sixers in Philadelphia, It is getting more interested to see what is their next move as the Heat only need 1 last win to close the series. They surely have succeeded in limiting Embiid's contribution and performance but I doubt that they can still do that again on the next game. Yes, I'm also rooting that the Sixers will force a game 7 and climb in the next round.
1964  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: May 09, 2022, 01:51:34 PM
Morant is unlikely to play tomorrow, and might play game 5 but he is not 100%.
He is expected to miss the game, not ruled out yet but the line movement is a confirmation that he might not be available.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/ja-morant-injury-update-grizzlies-star-expected-to-miss-game-4-vs-warriors-with-knee-injury/

I saw this odds for the Warriors to win 4-1 and it's 2.60 now.
Do you guys think it's a gift? because I think if Warriors win game 4, they will make sure to finish the series in game 5, or they will still be the favorite in game 5.
That's a good one, good thing you bring that here, for me, it's an opportunity as Warriors are just 1.15 ML in game 4, so that's a steal if Warriors will continue to dominate the game on their home court.
1965  Economy / Speculation / Re: Stability of bitcoin on: May 09, 2022, 01:21:35 PM
What will be the faith of bitcoin users if the value of bitcoin becomes stable in May 2022, a lot of prediction has been made in recent years on the rising and falling of bitcoin?
Must there be a rising and falling of crypto before the market can work effectively
This question looks so serious but at the same time I find it funny Cheesy. Nothing bad will happen to us if bitcoin becomes stable, don't worry. People only worry when price starts to dip. Your question are only good for the month of may so 1 month of waiting isn't going to be that long and after that, the price will start moving again.

I don't think there are people that will lose their patience and sell in that short period of time but yes there are a lot of predictions that have been made before. That is expected because the price of cryptos still moves on its own despite being manipulated by some whales but I think the market can work effectively even if there's no up and down.

There are people who sell because of panic, that's why the market is very volatile due to that kind of actions. And of course, while some people panic, some people will also enjoy the dip as they can accumulate and wait until bitcoin will bounce back. Just like the current price, most likely bitcoin will drop below $30k due ot its bearish movement, but after that, we can also expect that bitcoin will recover because it never fails those who trust and home while the price is dumping.
1966  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Celtics vs Bucks 2nd round Series. on: May 09, 2022, 12:43:10 PM
The bottom line, although Bucks won and lead to a 2-1 advantage, Game 3 is a close game. The Celtics will surely try to bounce back obviously now that they know that even though Giannis is making 40+ points, they are not that behind in the total score.

I think they should focus on limiting the points from Giannis because although the final score was close, Bucks dominated before the final quarter. if they want to win, they have to start strong, and Tatum should make his points as he usually do, he cannot be limited like what happen in game 3.

I wish it's easy for them, in the last 3 games, Giannis production has only improved.
It's still not too late for them, one last push for them and they have to win game 4 if they want to get back in the series.

Game 3 was very close, game could have went to OT but they were just too unlucky, maybe in game 4, they'll improve their offense and their defense as well. Giannis alone cannot carry the team consistently, so Celtics has to work as a team to beat Giannis.

BUCKS HERE GAME 4.  Smiley
1967  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Miami Heat vs Philadelphia 76ers - 2nd round (Let's discuss) on: May 09, 2022, 06:24:12 AM

Joel Embiid's presence really plays a big impact that's why some of his teammates awaken in their previous game.

Joel Embiid real MVP he makes 6ers the favorite. As long as a couple other guys come up with 15-20 on top of Harden being a factor they should be pretty good, and Heat need to have three guys like Chuck said catch fire. If they can't do that on top of having chemistry Butler can't bail them out. That is the difference, 6ers have an easier playbook while Heat have to constantly be moving and find team play on the go. Philly knows their roles.

I like to correct you, 76ers is not the favorite in the series, they are even heavy underdog in the last 2 games when Embiid was still out, and in game 5 since the odds are already out, they are +3.5 underdog, so they are not the favorites. Maybe if they'll beat the Heat on the road, that will make them the favorite in the series.

Embiid is not getting his usual number yet, not a 30+ points performance but his presence inside is giving the 76ers outside shooters some confidence and they can also drive inside since they control the paint.
1968  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: May 09, 2022, 05:59:17 AM
That was lacking in Game 1 and 2 for the Dallas Mavericks - adjustment of their role players to backup Luka.

And that was changed in Game 3 and 4 - Brunson, Bullock, Finney-Smith, Kleber, etc. Maintaining that game performance, they can beat the speculation of the majority that the Mavericks are nothing against the Phoenix Suns.

Mavericks all the way here! I hope they will upset the number 1 seed in the West. Game 5 will be deadly for them. I'm sure Phoenix Suns' Chris Paul will now wake up after 2 games of being off-night.
Luka changed his play style and that's it. Fewer dribbles, more on facilitating and dimes. They will win most of their games if all the Mavs wingmen receive the ball and generate a hot hand.
Finney-Smith and Bertans especially, have to gain confidence to shoot and it all happened today. Jason Kidd is doing good at rotating his players, and Mavs deep bench is being highlighted now with 6 players making double digits.

In the last 4 games, we saw how good both teams are playing on their home court, so in game 5, I think Suns will not waste that opportunity to go ahead in the series, because if they loss in game 5, it will be the Mavericks who will advance in the WCF, that's for sure. I'm a bit worried of what is happening as it could be like the Suns series in the NBA finals where they won the first 2 games and loss the succeeding 4.
1969  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Canelo Alvarez vs Dmitry Bivol - May 7 on: May 08, 2022, 06:32:42 PM

Well, Canelo has finally found the fighter that could defeat him and we cannot blame the fans because Canelo is very popular. There's a rematch, so we now have the time to choose which fighter we think will win, and I'm sure the betting odds that Bivol will not anymore a heavy underdog if he will still be listed as the underdog.

I think it's time for his team to rethink his campaign for greatness he is taking more than what he can chew, he is fighting a real light heavyweight, I notice Canelo is easily tired he is still fast but those punches coming from a heavier fighter is just too much, he will still be great in the middleweight he should concentrate there, maybe unite all belts and fight the best in the middleweight, and go to defend until he breaks Hopkin's record.
There's a debate on who is the greatest in the middleweight and he has a claim for it, set a record that future champions will be hard to match.
I already suspected that this might happen as Bivol is really far from Kovalev in terms of power and advantages, Canelo had an easy time dominating the latter but I didn't really expected that he would be defeated today as I'm only thinking that his would be a close and tough fight but Canelo will still be the winner.

When I watched their fight, Canelo is the one who have been dominated by the underdog and eventually he cannot hide his frustrations after he almost wrestled Bivol in the 11th round. Bivol can really withstand the gravity of punches thrown by Canelo, I admire him for that and he truly deserves the victory.
1970  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA _ Phoenix Suns vs Dallas Mavericks - 2nd round on: May 08, 2022, 06:02:36 PM
We have an early game tomorrow for the game 3 of Suns vs Mavericks.

Dallas is still the underdog with +2 in this game.

question..
can they duplicate the same performance they did in game 3 and continue to limit the offense of the Suns?
I'm thinking of taking the visiting team and believe that they'll finish the series when going back home.



How about you guys, what's your prediction?
I think they cannot do the same thing or try to duplicate what they did to the Suns on the Game 3 because we already know that the Suns will always learn on their mistakes and make some few adjustments with the help of Chris Paul's IQ. Might be a close game tomorrow but I'm seeing that the Suns will take the win and try to finish the series on their homecourt just like what you've said mate.
1971  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 08, 2022, 04:36:17 PM
Too bad for Casimero and we're guessing that his feeling right now is devastated long ago when it was said that his title will be stripped from him. What such setup and lack of knowledge from his team.

To the boxing experts here, is it possible that Casimero challenges Butler? So the tide will turn and he's now the one that will challenge the champion. And if that happens, is the camp of Butler obliged to say yes, or can reject that?

Not a boxing expert but I think Casimero won't challenge Butler's WBO bantamweight belt as the weight issue/problem really persist on him. Best next move for him right now is to find a good manager or make peace with Sean Gibbons so he can go back to MP Promotion and then talk about what would be the best for his career but definitely, a move up in weight is inevitable.

IMHO, this whole thing is a setup, payback time for Probellum for that Dubai incident, don't know if they lose some money on that promotion but their integrity was somewhat questioned on that incident.

I definitely agree! I don't know either why Casimero have chose to sign under Probellum's roof as he already knew that Butler was already there first and I've read some rumor way back that this will be a disadvantage for Casimero. Nevertheless, it's really not best for him to join his opponent in the same roof. His only choice now is to move another heavier division where his weight won't be a big problem and test his capabilities there as he don't have anything to lose now.

It was actually Donaire who help Casimero to sign under the banner of Probellum.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/10/12/21/donaire-helps-former-rival-casimero

So does it mean that Donaire has also some intentions behind luring Casimero out of MP and joining him and Butler in the same roof?

But in any case that he has a hard time making the bantamweight then it's better for him to move up.
We don't know that for sure and that's another speculation that Donaire has some plans to lure him and eventually take him out of the picture, honestly I can't really think that Donaire would do such thing to his co-Filipino boxer.

It's really unfortunate to Casimero because he did faced many complications towards this supposed fight against Butler but for the 2nd time he still didn't make it and worse he has been stripped of his belt.
1972  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: May 08, 2022, 12:45:52 PM
The Greek Freak did it again. 42 points 12 rebounds 8 assists. Great performance and becoming more of a facilitator. The Celtics did gave him a hard time to attack the paint by aiming for an offensive foul whenever he runs wild but it didn't stop him by using spin moves to create space and using his strong upper body to force his way in.
Shutting down Tatum was the first priority then everything goes their way. Good game and the ending was a bit dramatic.  Cheesy

Yeah, almost a triple double performance for Giannis again, he knows that he will be double or even triple team that's why he look for the open man. Although there were instance that his pass was intercepted, but at least he prove clutch again. For sure Tatum will bounce back next game, he had a good series against the Nets and I said that he is a legit star now. So he has to adjust to the defense being put on him to score.

Both teams making the right adjustment, so let's expect that will happen in game 4 as that game is a very important game for the Celtics. However, if Tatum will improve and Brown will struggle, that would result to another lose, so both of them has to have a good performance in order for them to even the series.
1973  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Canelo Alvarez vs Dmitry Bivol - May 7 on: May 08, 2022, 12:28:00 PM
This is a perfect day for me. Huge stoppage victories from Oliveira and Chandler in the UFC and of course Bivol taking Canelo once again to school. I think it was disrespectful when Canelo as a challenger was introduced last when it could've been Bivol. But Bivol was always focus and even mentioned after the fight that the loud Canelo fans further motivated him. Bivol was executing his team's game plan very well, even at times when Canelo was already cornered, Bivol showed discipline not to over commit. And to the hardcore boxing fans, you guys knew the judges attempted to change the outcome of the fight when all of them gave Canelo 5 rounds. But it was just too much, Bivol was clearly dominating Canelo all over the ring that the judges cannot find more close rounds and loopholes.  Grin   

Congrats to you, I know you are a solid Bivol and good that you put your money on him a win big.

As for those who bet on Canelo including myself, yeah, upset happens, we just to accept that.  Smiley

It was a simple but yet effective strategy for Bivol, don't let Canelo get inside, used his jab more to prevent him from entering. And then uses his best combo, one-two punch to throw Canelo off balance and to score points in the judges scorecard. But I guess the judges gives Canelo more rounds though.

Everyone here is thinking that Canelo would easily beat the champ, including me of course, so I'm guilty but I'm glad I didn't put my bet on that game. LOL.. congrats to the bettors who trusted Bivol, it was an easy win by the defending champ and the odds is very sweet.

Well, Canelo has finally found the fighter that could defeat him and we cannot blame the fans because Canelo is very popular. There's a rematch, so we now have the time to choose which fighter we think will win, and I'm sure the betting odds that Bivol will not anymore a heavy underdog if he will still be listed as the underdog.
1974  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: May 08, 2022, 11:56:34 AM
There's a little chance, but if Warriors lose game 4, then we will have to think again.

No way they'll lose without Morant, or a limited Morant.

Odds are out already, Warriors is -9 currently, I think I'll take it early than wait for it to rise if Morant announces as not available in game 4.
Of course, Brooks will be back in game 4, but the Warriors offense are just extraordinary.
1975  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Inoue vs Donaire II discussion on: May 07, 2022, 07:54:25 PM
I might be wrong but do you mean, Inoue vs Donaire is not a good fight for you as you want Casimero?

Better playback what happens in their first meetup that it needs a rematch. Maybe you just don't know much Donaire that's why you want Casimero for him. Casimero is even overrated. The way he is struggling to maintain his weight, how can he even match with a much more fit Naoya Inoue.


I have to agree that the fight between Donaire and Inoue deserves a rematch. Then, what If Donaire wins the rematch, then a trilogy would be much interesting.
I guess Casimero still have a chance for the Inoue fight later after Donaire.
I want to believe he's overrated, but not until he fights Inoue.
We can't deny that guy is also a good boxer and carrying much hype with his character.

Definitely a rematch between Donaire and Inoue will be asked if indeed Donaire will be the one who will announced as the victorious one in their said rematch, there's no doubt about that as their standing would be 1-1.

But in terms of Casimero, I think he's quite far in the picture now. He have to decide whether he wants to remain in bantamweight or move up and wait if Inoue will also move up. He needs to settle his own fight and problems first.
1976  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA _ Phoenix Suns vs Dallas Mavericks - 2nd round on: May 07, 2022, 07:33:23 PM
With the help of Brunson to Doncic, Dallas managed to stand still in this series. If they lost the game last night, the series would come to a point that they wouldn't be able to make a comeback from. If Mavericks manage to add another superstar beside Doncic, they would become one of the strongest candidates of the title next season. For this series, I still think that they don't have much chance.
Yes, you are certainly right about that Jalen and Luka is a good tandem in the Mavericks side so if they could afford to add another good player in their current line-up then I'm sure that they could be a candidate again in the next season if also they could be this healthy again. But for now that they are against the Phoenix Suns which is more hungry than them and of course with CP3 who also knows how to answer and learn from every mistakes that they did this day, I couldn't help to side with the Suns.
1977  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 07, 2022, 07:13:32 PM
Too bad for Casimero and we're guessing that his feeling right now is devastated long ago when it was said that his title will be stripped from him. What such setup and lack of knowledge from his team.

To the boxing experts here, is it possible that Casimero challenges Butler? So the tide will turn and he's now the one that will challenge the champion. And if that happens, is the camp of Butler obliged to say yes, or can reject that?

Not a boxing expert but I think Casimero won't challenge Butler's WBO bantamweight belt as the weight issue/problem really persist on him. Best next move for him right now is to find a good manager or make peace with Sean Gibbons so he can go back to MP Promotion and then talk about what would be the best for his career but definitely, a move up in weight is inevitable.

IMHO, this whole thing is a setup, payback time for Probellum for that Dubai incident, don't know if they lose some money on that promotion but their integrity was somewhat questioned on that incident.

I definitely agree! I don't know either why Casimero have chose to sign under Probellum's roof as he already knew that Butler was already there first and I've read some rumor way back that this will be a disadvantage for Casimero. Nevertheless, it's really not best for him to join his opponent in the same roof. His only choice now is to move another heavier division where his weight won't be a big problem and test his capabilities there as he don't have anything to lose now.
1978  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Canelo Alvarez vs Dmitry Bivol - May 7 on: May 06, 2022, 05:43:31 PM

Bivol is a champ in many boxing championships in which he'd been training in the US for a long time. he must have learned well including English. this is not the kind of boxer that hasn't faced intimidating boxers. pulling an upset might be difficult for him to achieve as he is facing Canelo. but i would be happy to get my winnings Smiley

its just small amount actually but whoever wins, i will enjoy the rumble.





 
It's your assessment and that also counts when you say that he already trained for quite some time, enough to create good strategy and understand how his opponents will work against him, there's no doubt that Canelo will continue to be the heavy favorite but we never know when upset will take place.

A solid conversion to Canelo's critical parts will give you that chance to collect your winnings.

Let see if how things will be there for us fans, looking to see toe-to-toe fights between the two.
I'm really seeing Dmitry Bivol as an underrated boxer because he is really a tough one to face that's why he got the place where he was now and being a champion in the light-heavyweight is not an easy task to accomplish and yet he did. Infact, he is way more better and superior than Sergey Kovalev who was also defeated by Canelo via KO. But all of that accomplishments doesn't mean that he can do an easy upset towards the undisputed champion Canelo Alvarez, this surely will be an interesting fight.
1979  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Celtics vs Bucks 2nd round Series. on: May 06, 2022, 05:18:58 PM
I voted for Boston. I noticed that I just made the poll at a tie.

Now that it is confirmed that Khris Middleton is out in games 3 and 4, it will be very difficult for Giannis and his team to beat the Celtics even in Milwaukee. There is a big difference between Boston Celtics and that Chicago Bulls team. Boston can defend well and Marcus Smart might return in game 3. Giannis teammates better show their a-games offensively and defensively or they will lose these 2 homecourt games. 

That's a challenge for them especially now that their playing in their homecourt, I have no doubt on Giannis's skills because he is still hard to stop even for Tatum and Smart alone but for the rest of them team they also need to step up and help Giannis achieve a dominant win on the following 2 games because if they can't then it's already over, Celtics will gain move to the Semis.
1980  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: May 06, 2022, 04:09:14 PM
The Warriors vs Grizzlies game earlier was certainly breathtaking to see and injured players like Gary Payton II and Draymond Green but luckily Green did return in the game afterwards, the intensity is really different when it comes to playoffs.

Anyways, we have 2 games later. Let's bet again and here's mine.

Miami Heat -8 (Butler will return while Embiid is still ruled out)
Phoenix Suns -6

Good luck guys!
I was frustrated with what happened to Gary Payton II and I think it is a flagrant foul and an intentional foul at the same time Kerr has said that Dillon Brooks broke the code he sure wants Payton out of the Picture because Gary Payton II is doing his job amazingly in guarding Ja Morant, and the results Ja Morant just got 30 plus points on the 1st game, and when Payton is out Ja Morant has gone crazy on the 2nd match, and right now GP2 has suffered ligament damage in addition to his fractured elbow, so this is a very serious injury, and I think that Dillon Brooks should be suspended, and if not suspended for 1 to 2 games out for good this season.
Haven't imagine that Brooks will go for something like that, he was just ejected and there's no news if he's suspended for the entire series or season because it was clear that he used brute force to commit an intentional foul on Gary Payton II. Now he is injured and probably cannot play even if the Warriors can made it to the Finals. That was really a dirty play and Kerr was right that he broke the code, but I don't seriously think that the whole Grizzlies team planned for it.

There is news that he will be suspended without pay next game. So he will missed game 3 and that could be a big factor for Memphis because they are on the road against one of the best home team.

I do agree, it was not planned, it just so happened, just like when Siakam broke Embiid orbital bone with that one Euro step causing Joel to missed as well the games against the Heat.
Yes, I was also informed earlier this day that Dillion Brooks has been suspended to play on Game 3 after that incident, frankly that was way more beyond the line because GP2 was badly injured after he fell. Anways, the damage has been done and sadly for GP2, he cannot play probably for the rest of the season even if the GSW can make it into the Finals this year.
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