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1961  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: April 25, 2014, 05:47:12 PM
Unlike tenebrix/fairbrix the coin subsidy per block decreases over time too, and also so far monero hasn't been plagued with terrible bugs like tenebrix was (because tenebrix was built on the mostly broken multicoin).
Never heard of multicoin before and mapofcoins.com seems not to have neither.
1962  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: April 25, 2014, 05:20:03 PM
I think it's much clearer if you say:

Monero is to Bytecoin what Fairbrix is to Tenebrix
Possible Smiley
1963  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: April 25, 2014, 05:13:08 PM
Give me the rundown here.

Bytecoin vs Bitmoneros? What's the difference?

Why one over the other?
Short answer:
Monero : fair version of Bytecoin, more transparent devs than Bytecoin. Choose monero without hesitation

Long answer:
Monero: fair version of Bytecoin + active and transparent community (monero: new name of bitmonero). More fair (flatter curve, less rewarding for early adopter), active community (I am part of it)
Bytecoin: the original, heavily mined already (80%), dubbed "ninja-mined" because the bytecoin miner never announced their coin when it was released in 2012
If you heard of Tenebrix and Fairbrix back in the day, then Monero is to Fairbrix what Bytecoin is to Tenebrix

Good enough of a rundown? Smiley
1964  Local / Altcoins (Français) / Re: Quelles sont les cryptomonnaies prometteuses ? on: April 25, 2014, 02:54:26 PM
Le tips il vaut combien encore ?
0.000001$
971$ en tips échangé en 24h, c'est une blague !!
C'est toi en fait ?
Tu fais des transactions avec toi même afin que ce ne soit pas 0$ de transaction par jour ?
La courtoisie, tu connais ?

Pour être clair : je n'ai pas un seul fedoracoin et cette monnaie ne m'intéresse pas particulièrement ; la courtoisie, si.
1965  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MINT]Mintcoin V1.8, Energy Saving Coin *27 Exchanges *47 Merchants on: April 25, 2014, 02:39:38 PM
I had a quick look at greenpay and it looks eerily similar to Stackcoin. That was a big scam with an IPO, and had similar promises of unique features built into a wallet.  Let's wait and see if they deliver on their premise, otherwise I think the release of a minting android wallet is a bigger deal anyway.
Thanks for this information!
1966  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cynosure - Blackcoin and Mintcoin intermediation on: April 25, 2014, 12:56:39 PM
stuck
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1967  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New BCN/Cryptonote-based coin discussion on: April 25, 2014, 12:46:06 PM
What about the minard pool?

Could they mine this coin in private while we only use out CPU? How would this answer to this abuse?

I think there should be some clean transparency and make sure this coin does not get instamined like MRO. Otherwise it will be just a fork
- instamine: MRO is not instamined. BCN (MRO predecessor) was ninja-mined for two years.
- miner pool: AFAIK, no pool available yet. You are free to come and help setting it up. Even if you are not a coder: promoting monero doesn't require coding skills and could attract coders willing to create such a pool
- hidden pool: if there was one, it might show on the difficulty. I don't have enough technical knowledge to back up my claims, though - probably someone with more technical knowledge could answer, buy I think hidden pool would not hurt the crypto, it would juste better spread the crypto among the hidden pool's users.
- abuse: the real abuse would be botnets. We suspect there is already a botnet at work, considering the difficulty.

A note on style: we are trying hard to be transparent. Mostly everything is done on either forum or IRC (only a few things are done by mail and PM and so far, no decisive action happened this way). The same way, the "monero" account on bitcointalk is a shared account so that several persons can change the thread. The same goes for the website (monero.cc). As for decision-making, we bote on IRC with embedded tools (botmonero handles the votes) and we are planning to implement blockchain-voting so that miner vote, no forum user. Finally, we answered to everyone who PM'ed to ask for joining us.
Considering this, pleas regarding lack of transparency are, dare I say, insulting. Since I usually assume good faith on people, I will consider this plea as being an avatar of "once bitten twice shy" and not genuinely aggressive Smiley

That being said, a fork with solid reasons is OK, of course. "Solid reasons" requires argumentation so as long as it is there (and that the argumenter are ready to abandon their plan if they prove wrong - otherwise, this is not argumentation, this is sophism), no problem.
1968  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: April 25, 2014, 12:17:17 PM
That actually sounds like a good idea, releasing the coins little by little. I really want this coin to succeed.
FYI, Quebecoin plans to follow the same "little-by-little" strategy for its airdop.
1969  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MC2: A cryptocurrency based on a hybrid PoW/PoS system on: April 25, 2014, 11:40:57 AM
Not sure yet, but it'll be GPU mineable from the get go.
I find it a big concern that a coin requires an expensive graphic card to be mined. Sorry, but "democracy" and "you need to have expensive hardware" don't mix well together.

For me, everything that requires more than 25 dollars of hardware cannot be democratic. 25 dollars is the price of an Arduino, by the way.

Time to break out the shoulder high boots to wade through the piles of shit from CPU only coin propagandists.  

If I want to mine at home, I can buy only 4-10 GPUs and compete relatively well since even *most* large miners will only have something like 100 on the outlier examples.

If I want to compete on a CPU coin, spend similar or more money for 10 CPU packages, now I have to compete against a bunch of giant botnets of 50,000 CPUs.

Do you need to break out the calculator to figure out which ratio is better?  10:100 or 10:50,000
CPU: everyone can male a little, some are making a lot (botnet)
GPU: most people can not do any, some do well, some do very well
Factor in all those are left out of the equation, please.
I live in a very small flat. Even one graphic card makes a lot of noise which prevents me from sleeping. Now imagine 4-to-10. I have a passive computer for this very reason: I want to sleep at night.
Now, if you can get me powerful-yet-passive GPU, I'm all ears. I heard it exists.
1970  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Recipes for Seuntjie's dicebots (builds) on: April 25, 2014, 09:55:43 AM
Thanks Pincer.
How it is going after 20 days? Did you lose more than you earnt (this is what usually happens in such a period)?
1971  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Exchange] SwapHole.com - API Available - 2FA on: April 25, 2014, 08:59:55 AM
Redesign now live!
Yeah! Much better Smiley
1972  Local / Annonces / Re: Monero, la crypto Cryptonote qui monte on: April 25, 2014, 08:35:09 AM
Merci du partage! Ca a l'air d'être tendu le solo mining, j'espère qu'ils vont sortir une pool assez vite.
C'est prévu, effectivement.

Quel est la différence entre Fortuneo euh Monero et Bytecoin ?
Apparemment c'est la même chose en moins "secret" et avec un nombre de coin différent (18.446 million max supply instead of 184.46 billion).[/quote]Ca (Bytecoin a été miné en cachette à 80%) et aussi une courbe d'adoption plus plate, pour moins récompenser les early adopters. Et les devs sont plus présents aussi.
1973  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MC2: A cryptocurrency based on a hybrid PoW/PoS system on: April 25, 2014, 08:32:08 AM
tacotime and others, you could be interested into this:

Context is NEM and PoS.
How the BitCoin network becomes centralized?

Google translate original russian post from Sasha PortMan : http://mmgp.ru/showpost.php?p=6543233&postcount=2136

The first stage - it was possible mining at home on videocards.
The second stage - it was possible mining at home on farms from ten videocards.
The third stage - mining it is possible was at home on tens farms from hundred videocards.
The fourth stage - the whole industrial pavilions, from hundred ASIC of mayner.
The fifth stage - tens mega constructions from thousands of ASIC of mayner.
The sixth stage - mega the corporations which are engaged in a mining which will have huge territories on the areas which will be specially adapted under a mining.

And the seventh stage, final - the strongest corporations from corporations will survive. They will be then not only to control the prices, but also to carry out all transactions. If the price of a coin is low, the network and any transaction will simply stop won't be carried out while the price doesn't become favorable to a mining. But it will be already in the most final phase when all mining one or two mega will control corporations on the mining, under control certainly to the government. Because probably you know if someone starts controlling that not in power was to control before to the governments within the corporation, the governments shortly will start controlling the one who controls the uncontrollable.

In general, I consider a mining - an error of decentralization. All computing capacities once will appear in hands of one mega corporations that conducts to centralization and control from the governments. Satoshi when I created it, I he think knew and guessed to what at the end everything leads it. Freedom is given only in the beginning when everyone can майнить at home on videocards, thereby forming the decentralized network. But here its complexity grows and grows that finally leads to centralization and to total control, up to even before network destruction if supervisory authorities of it want. And most likely they will want because yet time will find as someone sold for BitCoins drugs or sponsored terrorism, and so on. BitCoin for them at present as a splinter which just like that can't be pulled out. But Satoshi created it everything temporary, as a result a ball one will govern mega corporation and sure to appear over it will rule the governments. It will be the beginning of the end of a network BitCoin.
1974  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: April 25, 2014, 08:25:33 AM
I can tell. Satoshi was coding like in 80+', BCNext, like in 90+' (who knows, maybe to mimic satoshi even more),
Jaguar codes, like you code nowadays.
And I read Cryptonote is coded like in 2010's
1975  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MINT]Mintcoin V1.8, Energy Saving Coin *27 Exchanges *47 Merchants on: April 25, 2014, 08:04:49 AM
Would be nice to have the multipool integrated into the wallet.
Could you extrapolate on this?
1976  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MINT]Mintcoin V1.8, Energy Saving Coin *27 Exchanges *47 Merchants on: April 25, 2014, 08:04:16 AM
Hey, yeah something like that would be really nice. As you said, DOGE has some massive subscribers on their subreddit and its doing awesome. Maybe mintcoin should go for that Smiley
So what do the people in the fund think ? David ? Beaverslayer ? Smiley
I am all for it, under one condition: that someone handles it Smiley I won't have time to take care of it, so the person in charge of it will report to me.
Call for candidacy is open!
1977  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MC2: A democratic cryptocurrency based on a hybrid PoW/PoS system on: April 25, 2014, 01:44:12 AM
I was wondering when someone would come around and implement all of the cool features we are seeing in other alt-currencies at once, yet you seemed to have taken it another step further. How much of the code do you plan on borrowing directly from BTC using their stable base? Without trying to pick on an obvious influence for your current model, it's nice how your are already showing the inner working of the math involved within the original alpha white paper. Something that PPC is still lacking in my opinion.
Tacotime, now that you are big on cryptnote, why not using Cryptonote instead of bitcoin as a base? If you plan to take the best of all altcoin, cryptonote would fit in particularly well, don't you think?
1978  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: April 25, 2014, 01:25:04 AM
I beg to differ. "Call for participation" is different from an IPO both in legal term and in actual practice. The money stakeholders sent in are donation/ fee to join but not the payment to buy a stake. NEM initial fundrasing is set in this way for a good reason. And I don't think because everyone else is doing IPO then NEM fundrasing has to be an IPO.
Alright so I was wrong, although I don't see the difference  between a donation fee and a stake - since fundraisers will receive some NEM, they are receiving a stake, no?

NEM is an evolving entity. A stake of a Coingen clone is worth like nothing; A stake in a properly developed technology could be worth a lot. NEM could have been the former. But it happens to be the latter because of the participation of some great people like Jaguar, Thies, Gimre, Makoto, BloodyRookie, Krysto, Patmaster etc. I hope you understand.
Yes, sort of. Still, I think that saying "this is not an IPO, this is an call for participation" wil make most people defiant, like when politician use one word for an other.
Fortunately, this is easy to fix: suffice to mention in the same sentence the difference between an IPO and a call for participation. Or, better yet; "technically, this is not an IPO; but if by IPO you mean; taking a small risk in the hope it will pay out later", well yes, you can call this an IPO"

Plus, IPO is much faster to pronounce and understand than "call for participation" Smiley

There was a risk when I use the words like IPO or investment since I am in U.S which has certain regulations regarding to fundraising and soliciting investment. IPO has a strict legal meaning and I would rather avoid it. Everyone can use any words they prefer but when someone asks me about "that IPO", "this investment". I can't implicitly accept it without risking myself legally.
Now this is crystal-clear Smiley

That's amusing, I have the exact same "problem" with the NGO I am starting for Mintcoin. Everyone is calling it a Foundation, but for legal reason, I cannot use the word Foundation because in France it is reserved to a particular entity (the Mintcoin Fund will be an endowment fund, not a foundation)
1979  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: April 25, 2014, 01:15:02 AM
I beg to differ. "Call for participation" is different from an IPO both in legal term and in actual practice. The money stakeholders sent in are donation/ fee to join but not the payment to buy a stake. NEM initial fundrasing is set in this way for a good reason. And I don't think because everyone else is doing IPO then NEM fundrasing has to be an IPO.
Alright so I was wrong, although I don't see the difference  between a donation fee and a stake - since fundraisers will receive some NEM, they are receiving a stake, no?

NEM is an evolving entity. A stake of a Coingen clone is worth like nothing; A stake in a properly developed technology could be worth a lot. NEM could have been the former. But it happens to be the latter because of the participation of some great people like Jaguar, Thies, Gimre, Makoto, BloodyRookie, Krysto, Patmaster etc. I hope you understand.
Yes, sort of. Still, I think that saying "this is not an IPO, this is an call for participation" wil make most people defiant, like when politician use one word for an other.
Fortunately, this is easy to fix: suffice to mention in the same sentence the difference between an IPO and a call for participation. Or, better yet; "technically, this is not an IPO; but if by IPO you mean; taking a small risk in the hope it will pay out later", well yes, you can call this an IPO"

Plus, IPO is much faster to pronounce and understand than "call for participation" Smiley
1980  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: April 25, 2014, 12:48:07 AM
I beg to differ. "Call for participation" is different from an IPO both in legal term and in actual practice. The money stakeholders sent in are donation/ fee to join but not the payment to buy a stake. NEM initial fundrasing is set in this way for a good reason. And I don't think because everyone else is doing IPO then NEM fundrasing has to be an IPO.
Alright so I was wrong, although I don't see the difference  between a donation fee and a stake - since fundraisers will receive some NEM, they are receiving a stake, no?
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