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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: July 12, 2019, 09:38:07 PM
I didn't think I could buy so cheap. But now I can. Set buy order at 25 sats. Fills in bit by bit. I can't wait when I can transfer all of this to my HODL that should arrive pretty soon, if I'm not mistaken with my guesstimate on the update.

Where do you buy? Recommend me an exchange.
22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: June 30, 2019, 09:34:24 PM
AB just got into chat and said that we'll hear the update in 30 days.

Everyone assumes that it's HODL. What else can it be?

for example DUMP  Grin

And what if there will be PUMP?)) Did you sell everything already?

I think he believes in Universa to some extent. So I doubt he will sell everything. Maybe waits for the dump to buy more  Smiley
23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: June 26, 2019, 04:50:29 PM
Where is top exchanges?? Why with 25 mln raised usd UTN does not have any good exchange? Where is partnerships and tokens using? They are just spending money for useless conferences (

Doesn't Bitfinex one of the top exchanges. You should realize that exchanges alone won't help. We need real-life usage. Once it's done, the volume will rise by itself.

Yes, it is but as you mentioned the exchange doesn't mean anything. I think even Binance won't change this. They should focus on the real usage, first of all.
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: June 24, 2019, 09:11:58 PM
Now we will go sideways, uptrend was broken already too.

Yes, you were right, going sideways while the market rises. Only temporary, I think.

Bitcoin has gone so much, I'm starting to feel that we can go hard after such pumps like in 2017. I hope I'm wrong. This can have a negative effect on crypto overall.

Why do you think so? Usually, every bull trend goes higher than before. Look at the charts. We should go higher this time. Just see how easy this 10k was.
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: June 18, 2019, 08:25:20 PM
Was off for a month. Is there any good news, new partnerships? When Tunisia supposed to start off?

You can check out their telegram bud. They update all the announcements they had to make in their group and announcement channels. just search  @UniversaNews or you can join the official English Group here: https://t.me/Uplatform

I think we can safely forget (and stay in long position) until MAYBE HODL in autumn 2019 (hope 2019). Until this date i will play with some PnD coins like cobinhood tokens, they tend to have good PnD spread and speed. Universa will sleep another months under radar. Too many milestones to meet, still much work to do. Still believing a bit in some success of project mainly just because there is almost no other reason to keep this charade playing except the reason that the team at least WILL to make things happen. All other (fraudulent) possibilities bleed with time, the last probable fraudulent possibility is to create a false alibi and run unsuccessfull project (unsuccessfull on purpose) to convince the court that it was a bussiness fail and not an intention. However this risk is still real if we consider some factors ...  Tongue

You are hinting at too unbelievable possibilities. Universa is a real project with a real long live plan. HODL + implementation in nearest future + long term partnership will affect the price.

Yep. One of the reasons I regret selling mine too early. They are a great project with a great team and development.

Now is a good time to buy some to have for a long time. I don't think the price will be lower as now anymore.

Not so good as it was some weeks ago but still a nice opportunity, if you understand what I am about. Wink
The price now is almost same as it was some weeks ago infact months ago and it will remain at these levels unless some major development or partnership new comes out which can trigger the price upwards.

Yes you're right. But the ultimate low this month was .0025. Now we're at almost .004.
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: May 25, 2019, 09:35:48 PM
So the next stop is Speif, right? I hear there should be some announcement around this time. Q2-Q3 should be interesting. We should get details on Tunisia and see a hodl release.

Yes, that could be exciting months. Hope price will finally go north when we achieve those milestones.
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: May 18, 2019, 07:37:26 PM
Can someone give me a link that will have linked me to how to convert my UTN to the UTNP and convert it back again from UTNP to the UTN?
Is this feature already available or not? Im sorry because it's too long for me not follow the latest update from this one.
Any answer will be appreciated.

Yes, it's available for about half a year now. Works pretty good. I find this guide from an admin in Telegram quite useful.

https://t.me/Uplatform/357310


28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: May 14, 2019, 07:41:36 PM
No doubt. If BTC is flying like nothing these days just imagine how alts will fly when alt season starts.

Bitcoin grows like crazy. Its dominance rose, which makes alts even cheaper now.

Yep, now if bulls will stop alts can be hurt even more. Actually I'm kinda hoping for this. I didn't expect such a rally so soon and haven't accumulated enough..
29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: May 07, 2019, 09:32:44 PM
Who would pay a cent for someone to fud a dying scam/shitcoin that's more insignificant than coins that launched in 2013 (no joke)? I think they are projecting their thoughts and how they purchase 100s of accounts/users to talk positivity about their shitcoin, especially here on BTT and Telegram. As for investments, all-in-all i'm in the green with my investments on Universa. So no, not here for loss of profits. I'm here because i've been deceived on a fundamental level, fooled and taken for a fool; all by Russian scammers/fraudsters or by pure incompetence.

Clueless retards at Universa, there's actually not 1 real person defending this great shitcoin, all the damage control is coming from the 100s of accounts the team owns. They make one statement and flood it with quotes, rinse-repeat. You can't make this stuff up, i urge everyone to look at the last accounts who post, team is too lazy and incompetent to even make the accounts look legitimate.

Ultimately, this thread is very important to Universa, because it's their only source of traffic and adoption for new users. Take a moment and imagine a coin team attacking users through sudo-accounts, on Bitcointalk, rarely have ever seen this done, add that to the list of over 100 failures of Universa.

Despite what the cunt admin is going to quote out of context and defend with, i urge everyone to just view the accounts. Every word i write is backed up with substance, evidence and facts; despite the master cunt puppeteer ability to continually take words out of context and dates, recite the encyclopedia, attack users on personal levels, call their investors liars and avoid tough discussions all-together.

 Roll Eyes
You never rest, Tarek. I respect that.

The guy has same profile picture like an user Alberto at telegram Universa chat (i dont believe in coincidence in so small community). And the guy at telegram behaves a bit different.


The best thing as an answer and a final solution would be some great evidence published by Universa to make Universa great again. Because the evidence is still missing. Even if the missing evidence is not the evidence of missing...
Current situation is a bit paltry and annoying, its a really great poker game, its a clam and no one knows what it contains until it decides to open itself. Almost if you realize how good the Russians are generally in the mystification discipline. The most promising guy in Universa project tends to be Mr. Myodov, his posts are great and i believe is IQ is over 150, its a pleasure to read his posts,. But what if the conspiracy has even higher level of intelligence to be debunked?
Currently we are in speculative phase, Universa team admits it, i just place bets on easy pattern - probability of pearl in the UTN clam multiplied by probable gain in this case MUST be more or equal to 1.

My evaluation of this magic formula:  0,2 probability x 50 median gain vs the current price in success scenario x special russian mystification mastery risk penalty 0,5 = 0,2 x 50 x 0,5 x 0,5 = 2,5.  2,5 is more than 1. Im interested and bought in.

And what is next 0,5?
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: May 06, 2019, 09:18:29 PM
@tk808 must be a burned investor who bought the top and sold the bottom .. and is now butthurt and releasing his frustrations like this. That is one option. He has made his point and he got the answers - and not just once. But he is still returning and repeating those things in cycles. I don't understand why.

Second option is that he is a paid FUDer or a FUDer from his own interest - to lower the prices of UTNP on the market. I don't know. I personally don't see any other explanation why would he still be returning after he got the answers and is not invested in the project anymore. And he is not the only one like that here. There is quite a few of them that keep returning in cycles with the same FUD. Looks very suspicious to me.

So, a note to all other who are reading this thread: there is a chance that these people are a group of FUDers, trying to lower the price. Don't be played by them.

The prices are now perfect to accumulate and that's exactly what I'm doing. I've heard that the smart investors buy low... Smiley

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Second option is that he is a paid FUDer

Maybe it is so, who knows. But everyone earns their daily bread with the skills that they have. You can't stop them. They'll keep coming doing their job. But I think we shouldn't get upset so much. In a way, they help us buy at the lowest prices. You can seek positive sides in every situation!


Good thinking, bro. I think we all bought enough now and most of the weak hands are gone. We already up +30% from the lowest.

Yes, I think we are getting ready for a rally now. My bet is ico price by the end of the summer.
31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: May 03, 2019, 06:49:11 PM
Markets are the ultimate gauge for the health of any project and Universa is a sick, old and dying man.

Do you really believe this? Then why did Bitcoin and Ethereum lost their value? Did they become worse off? No, their technologies got better. Still, their price decreased a lot. It follows that markets do a poor job accessing an asset. Also, we saw many useless bitcoin forks that had huge gains. Again, that disprove the reasonability of your statement.
Markets often overvalue and undervalue.

But I believe that sooner or later markets will probably access an asset more or less reasonably. But looking at today values doesn't tell a thing about the real health of the project.

When talking about markets, price is only 1 metric/gunge for health. There are so many elements that encompass what a market is and behavior of it. Limited understanding of these facts will lead to similar conclusions like the one stated above, because he cherry picked it and immediately was drawn to his comfort zone of development vs price.

Universa has 2k real daily volume btw everyone, is this healthy? Is it healthy Universa never surpassed 1 mil real volume in all the time it has been trading on exchanges or 100k in the last 1 year? Even launching during a 10k Bitcoin and being funded 28 million during the ICO? This all reflects directly on the status of Universa. dead. Not even in 2013 the top 10 coins out of like 30/50 all had volumes above 10k, when the markets where pennies compared to the size they are today.  


There are so many other facts, about 20 other factors we can get into details here about the markets and gauging health of coins, but my time is wasted on educating the ignorant and clueless shills/universa team themselves.

Are there P&D outliers, yeah sure there are. But in general, you can gauge any project's performance, with Bitcoin's market status taken into consideration, to determine the health of any project. There are many metrics to follow through when determining health of coins, but it will give you the best possible picture in determining how a coin and business is functioning. You can even determine particular events that occured with a coin, correlated to any movement the company made if you understand the past, present and context of the market. Obviously not going to get into details here, because I'm ultimately wasting my time in this cesspool of a thread.


Amoredore is a dev for Universa btw, which is also Ampirebus (who controls about 20 puppet accounts that post regularly on this thread)


To add to all that, he cherry picked this one statement and took it out of context. I don't know how much less intelligent you can get, but this is pretty much the bottom here.

>When talking about markets, price is only 1 metric/gunge for health. There are so many elements that encompass what a market is and behavior of it. Limited understanding of these facts will lead to similar conclusions like the one stated above, because he cherry picked it and immediately was drawn to his comfort zone of development vs price.

Universa has 2k real daily volume btw everyone, is this healthy? Is it healthy Universa never surpassed 1 mil real volume in all the time it has been trading on exchanges or 100k in the last 1 year? Even launching during a 10k Bitcoin and being funded 28 million during the ICO? This all reflects directly on the status of Universa. dead. Not even in 2013 the top 10 coins out of like 30/50 all had volumes above 10k, when the markets where pennies compared to the size they are today.


Exchanges/trading volumes are not main for the very moment as the team has mentioned many times. Universa is not looking for success by any kind of speculative factor in order to just to impress the public. We constnatly work on the development of the actual product. And we always publish results at our development/webclient updares chatrooms. https://t.me/UniversaDev https://t.me/UniversaWebClient You pretend to be an crypto expert, but can't look further than trading volumes and price? Why not to contact Alexander Myodov, for example, who is always opened for any questions in order to deepen your knowledge regarding the blockchain technology?

>Obviously not going to get into details here, because I'm ultimately wasting my time in this cesspool of a thread.

Then why do you keep coming here for more than a month for now? Smiley You've got so much spare time to waste? Then why not to use it with a profit and get aware about the Universa here https://kb.universablockchain.com/p/2#

>To add to all that, he cherry picked this one statement and took it out of context. I don't know how much less intelligent you can get, but this is pretty much the bottom here.

Mind your language, please. Everybody's free to have their personal opinion, but we talk to you respectfully and ask you to the same to all of the community members.




That's the reality of it all. BTW Ampirebus, choke on my dick. You have no community, this thread is all puppets. Stop pretending you piece of shit.

Sorry, but the conversation in such expressions is not possible. Mind the language please.
We have given the answers to all your questions but it seems you are not interested in it. Ok, it is your way. The conversation is over.

It keeps getting better and better. This episode of universa will end like a house of cards . They have no news to share , no AMA , no partnerships, no answers. Even, borodich started to write articles that’s meaningless just to put universa name on news feed.All that we hear is fruitless answers that adds null value to the discussion to prove that this project is alive and thriving.
Microsoft, Amazon, ibm all announced blockchain for b2band b2g . Where is UTN wallet? Where is dex ? Where is nodes? Where is unicorn tokens based on Universa Platform? Where is IOB ? Where is smartgold tokens based on Universa Platform? Where is Alfa bank? Where is universahack?
“We held a thinktank in the Universa Moscow office and started preparations for an extremely large-scale hackathon UniversaHack2018 scheduled for March, 12–18 in 11 cities (Moscow, Saint Petersburg, Ufa, Ulyanovsk, Krasnodar, Kazan, Yekaterinburg, Novosibirsk, Tomsk, Vladivostok, Minsk). ”

This whole thing is a joke. 
https://medium.com/universablockchain/next-100-days-72b89b05314c

Here are some today news https://medium.com/universablockchain/3-essential-strategies-on-how-to-become-a-successful-blockchain-developer-b9df3f07ccb1

So you can not say we have no news. Also please join dev chat and web client chat - regular updates there.


This is getting ridiculous and you know that right? It’s a like a con artist you ask about partnerships and progress proof ? You answer 😂
What

Why are you asking the same questions for the same time and then not satisfied with the same answers? Why are you moving by the circle all the time?

Usually, they are here not for the answers. They are here to manipulate. Do not know their aim but it is not to help the project to develop definitely.
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: May 01, 2019, 09:38:45 PM
Some good news today from devs: https://medium.com/universablockchain/april-changes-in-the-client-code-f1590d16f69b
They are really cool made a great deal.

ICANN taking away a domain name is not entirely possible, Not unless your domain is associate with scams or spreading viruses and malware they can suspend your domain anytime.

Maybe what happen here is their domain registrar from New Zealand sold their domain to other customers that why i always stick to the known registrar when it comes to domain.
The domain register can’t just sell the domain to other clients. Universa net in USA had sue universa blockchain for infringement. You can read the law suits on the net, it’s not the first time lawsuit has been brought forward in connection to universa or Alexander Borodich. The effect of this can be seen on the price and the partnerships that had been made almost made 2 years ago don’t exist today . Everyone including John Mcafee went on theirs own way. Stuck here with this useless tokens.

Not their fault that the court decided to take away their domain. Universa registered it earlier but since it was in the US and the company is also of US origin, the decision was made not in their favor. But who cares if that didn't affect the project in any negative way. On the contrary, it turned out to be beneficial for the project because they no longer depend on ICANN.
33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: April 29, 2019, 07:54:31 PM
This recent conversation is just another recurring theme in almost every altcoin thread here in Bitcointalk. And it usually happens during the tail end of every bear market Bitcoin and crypto has endured so far.

Yes, you are right. It will be this way forever. Hope you are right about the tail of the bear market.

I think the bear market has ended when BTC hit 3k. Though we can still see some distrust on the market. Once BTC goes over 6k we should see a more positive sentiment.

Most are already bullish. Bitcoin rose by more than 50% in 4 months. Doesn't it tell us pretty clearly that the bear market has ended?

Too early to tell. Remember that Bitcoin was artificially pumped to 5k over the night. Whoever did this can dump it this way as well. But I hope it won't happen and buyers will overwhelm sellers.
if talking about bullish, there are people who say that crypto currencies, especially bitcoin, are already bullish!, 3000$ we will not meet again, maybe the lowest price on this wave is at $ 4000

God knows what will be the market.
34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: April 28, 2019, 09:39:36 PM
This recent conversation is just another recurring theme in almost every altcoin thread here in Bitcointalk. And it usually happens during the tail end of every bear market Bitcoin and crypto has endured so far.

Yes, you are right. It will be this way forever. Hope you are right about the tail of the bear market.

I think the bear market has ended when BTC hit 3k. Though we can still see some distrust on the market. Once BTC goes over 6k we should see a more positive sentiment.

Most are already bullish. Bitcoin rose by more than 50% in 4 months. Doesn't it tell us pretty clearly that the bear market has ended?

Too early to tell. Remember that Bitcoin was artificially pumped to 5k over the night. Whoever did this can dump it this way as well. But I hope it won't happen and buyers will overwhelm sellers.
35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: April 23, 2019, 06:58:18 PM

1. Why is, say, Cobinhood not a good exchange?
2. By the second line, I believe, you mean "partners using tokens". Here's the answer from Telegram.
Implementation and integration processes are not only signing a contract, it also entails tons of studies into legislation system to make sure everything is fine in a particular case, pilots, etc. It's a new space, there're no pre-paved paths to follow.

1) At first this is exchange for Korean people. And did you see volume on this exchanges its jut funny!
2) At second you have almost 2 years, and during this 2 years you still didnt do nothing for tokens using! So, what are you doing?

1. The exchange is for everyone. There is no restriction by region.
2. Mainnet is operable, partnerships are signed, swap is done, the web client is updated regularly...

Exchange with no volume. At last Kucoin is much better exchange.
What liquidity (using) tokens have right now? How they are using in your ecosystem? Is there any company with which you signer partnerships using tokens?  Huh

Yes, liquidity could be better. Yes, the tokens can be used in the ecosystems. They are needed if you want to do anything in the platform. Many functions are already working and many of them for quite a while now, you should check the mainnet. They have lots of partnerships but no one fully uses it right now but I have great expectations on this project.

I wonder why is everyone is so obsessed with price and liquidity and don't even look into the technical progress and other stuff. If price and liquidity are bad then everyone thinks there was no progress made. If price is okay then no questions asked in spite of lack of development and real usage. Everyone is happy. No one even checks the white paper of such projects before putting their money in. Thus, they undervalue one thing and overvalue the other. That's quite an unhealthy condition. I think that's why bubbles occur. People forget to ask 'how much?' =/

They don't bother to do their own research. They want to make money fast.

Everyone wants. Doesn't mean that you should skip reading WP, tho. A prudent investor makes an educated decision while speculators just... well, speculate. 

Yes, in 2017 no one read white papers. And no one bothered how much an asset cost. Because that was assumed that the growth will happen anyway.
36  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: April 11, 2019, 09:19:12 PM

Cool! Hope to see it implemented asap so everyone will learn the true power of Universa !!
37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: April 07, 2019, 05:18:54 PM
I would like to leave here a post by Alexander Myodove where he gives an answer about database in Universa.
"Is it possible to migrate database to universa platform ?  And is there any method to create a contract from the old database once it’s been Migrated?"
A.M.: "The database purpose is to store data; the Universa’s main purpose is to store the validity of the data (though, when using systems like SLOT1, it could store data as well); let’s imagine we are building some Universa-based system to validate the records of the existing database (to be sure they were not tampered with). First and foremost – what kind of database that could be? By default, some would consider to mean RDBMS only, a relational DB, like those regular PostgreSQL/MySQL/Oracle/MSSQL. But that’s not necessary, in fact; and if we consider some other, NoSQL database, then... the document-oriented NoSQL databases (like MongoDB) could be considered a perfect match for Universa!
In MongoDB, you store a document, which internally contains some structured data in a JSON-like format; – but that’s actually exactly what is stored in Universa’s smart contracts! The MongoDB “document” can be directly mapped to an Universa’s smart contract. Just decide where you put the document parts into the Universa’s unicon (what goes into the definition section, which is immutable; what goes into the state section; are any extra checks/validations required and should be added).
There maybe minor incompatibilities (like, between the types supported by MongoDB’s BSON format, and Universa’s BOSS); but with a simple convertation layer, the types could be mapped bidirectionally.
So, basically speaking, some MongoDB’s document in a collection like “car_passport”, with a structure like {"vin": "123456", "model": {"brand": "Lada", "code": "2101"}, "mileage": 15}, may appear in the Universa’s smart contract, which will have:
definition.car_passport = {
    "vin": 123456,
    "model": {"brand': "Lada", "code": 2101}
}
state.car_passport = {
    "mileage": 15
}"

Thank you. Very interesting to learn.
38  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: April 07, 2019, 12:44:16 PM
Update on platform development and promotion, and of course official detail on migrating to the new domain, UniversaBlockchain.com, in a report by Universa CEO Alexander Borodich: https://medium.com/universablockchain/universablockchain-com-new-home-a1fc5092fbdd


Awesome update! Good joob!
Some very bullish news in there ...  Smiley Good luck with the realization of the partnerships.

Yes! Cool news. Universa goes bigger. I am holding now it is just the beginning of a big run.

Do you think it is a good time to buy some more UTNP?
It is always a good time to buy until the price will be very high.

I'm stacking up and DCA-eing. The last update from the team looks very good and the market is also looking very good. The big alts are already recovering, the smaller ones will most likely follow. Yes, I think UTNP is currently at a good price to buy whether if you are a trader or a hodler. 1/3 of an ICO price (USD-wise)? Come on... UTNP is at the moment at some serious discount. The trend in UTNP price is going to reverse very soon.

P.S: And as I've said a few posts ago the TA also looks very good. All is ready & set unless there's an upcoming crypto event we can't foresee.

Yes, DCA is good because crypto is so unpredictable and you never know if you bought at the right time and price.

Yes, but it will also decrease your expected ROI. So I would rather buy now as much as I can because I think the other move is up. But will buy until it hits at least 100 sats for sure.

Well, it also decreases your risks. There's no way of knowing if the market will go up, though we all hope it will. We can't control or predict the market but we sure can control ourselves and sticking to DCA is a good idea. Usually, it shows better results compared to buying all at once.

Many who try to time the market get wrecked in the end. But some portion is good for trading. Because humans like to think they can do better than everyone else  Grin

Trading is not bad but with the right strategy and mindset. It's important to not trade with leverage because crypto volatility can wipe you out pretty quickly.

Nah, long term holders will outperform traders, in my opinion. Although some portfolio rebalancing is good in my opinion. When one portion of your portfolio rises, the other becomes relatively smaller - that's when it's a good time to sell the bigger chunk and reinvest it to the smaller pieces. Waiting for Bitcoin and alts to burst first and will sell some of them and put that money in small caps instead, usually after big ones rise, small caps follow.
39  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: March 31, 2019, 09:50:42 PM
UTNP bounced strong off of 66 sats today (on Cobinhood) and also very good volume there in the last few days, it means people are getting in and accumulating.
From a TA perspective it looks like we are forming a super bullish W bottom pattern ... the first bottom of a W pattern was 56 sats, looks like the second (which should be a little higher then the first) was 66 sats ... almost a textbook example. We shall see what the next few weeks brings, but this looks very very positive Smiley

I hope your forecasts will come true because I'm starting to accumulate at 70 sats. I think there would be no lower price.

Yeah, good price to full your bags. I filled mine at around 86 sats
40  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UNIVERSA | Blockchain Protocol for Business on: March 26, 2019, 02:16:39 PM
Yesterday I was trying to withdraw my tokens to sell them, this process was very confusing and I didnt manage it.

Today I come back to give it another try and find Universa dot io now linked to Universa dot net, which is the company of a well known investor who owns Universa Investments.

Either the website has been sold to them or (even worse some would say) someone has forgotten to update the domain, it has expired and the new company has picked it up.

What the hell is going on?

Yes, the website was changed. Use .com instead of .io. They say everything should be alright and the tokens are safe.
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