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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The best 2021 shittoken on BNB on: December 27, 2021, 06:40:07 AM
I think that the tokens on binance are 99,9% scam, and I recommend to be careful also to usdc; here I have made a selection of the worst 5. who will win?
this is something that will greatly discourage future investors, who, thinking of making an investment, find themselves involved in a fraud
Binance smart chain = meme shit scam token generators. Most of shit scam tokens were going to the binance smartchain as ethereum has non sense fees and it can be used only the big traders that can afford to pay the non sense fees.

So many scammers are poor people who was always scamming others and steal money from others pocket. The worst shit scam token must be nominated for squid game cash. This token didn't let any one to sell their own tokens and developers are locking all of liquidity that already provided and it can't be taken back again.

I think that there must not be a nomination for the worst one as they are worst shit tokens and they are all in the same level. Shit tokens are the worst and that's enough to explain all of them in one sentences.

this is something that will greatly discourage future investors, who, thinking of making an investment, find themselves involved in a scam
22  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: December 26, 2021, 05:05:53 PM
interessante
non conoscevo la legge di zipf, grazie me la studio con piacere perche queste cose mi intrigano parecchio
anche io ho una proiezione,

ho preso i dati storici dal 2013 e ho usato un algoritmo machine learning per prevedere il prezzo, a gennaio dovremmo arrivare a 80k
chiaramente lascia il tempo che trova, perche usa solo ed esclusivamente il parametro prezzo.. quindi
e' giusto un giochino mio per passare tempo, non vuole essere una previsione seria

Babo, mi interesserebbe sapere di più di questa tua proiezione. Scrivi qualcosa, rendici partecipi!
Anche noi vogliamo divertirci.
Guarda che sono proprio le cose più semplici che funzionano meglio!
Attendo ancora quota 15/20000. Ci saranno due anni bearish.




Babo, mi interesserebbe sapere di più di questa tua proiezione. Scrivi qualcosa, rendici partecipi!
Anche noi vogliamo divertirci.
Guarda che sono proprio le cose più semplici che funzionano meglio!

ok.. getto la maschera
allora partiamo dalla base, sono un nerdone appassionato di tecnologia (e questo forse, se siete attenti, lo sapete gia)
mi piace Bitcoin, ma ci sono anche altre discipline e altri argomenti che mi appassionano
uno di questi e' machine learning (e ho poco tempo per giocarci)

conosco qualche lib, ma sono riuscito a metter mano su una lib che non avevo mai provato, prophet di facebook
cosa ho fatto? scopiazzando e prendendo spunto

ho preso i dati storici di bitcoin (dal 2013) e ho chiesto a prophet di ipotizzare i prossimo 30 giorni



alla fine questa proiezione lascia il tempo che trova, perche sto usando solo il prezzo, non sto usando altri parametri (come ad esempio l'adozione)
quindi ** a cosa serve ** a nulla, a riflettere, pensare una trendline e via dicendo
chiaramente ho fatto ipotizzare il prezzo di un anno intero a prophet, piu in la ci spingiamo, piu il range di prezzi (la forbice) diventa grande


ho anche creato delle previsioni per validare il modello
ho preso i dati dal 2013 al 31/12 del 2020 e mi sono fatto predirre il prezzo del 2021
a dicembre 2021 (dopo 12 mesi quindi di previsioni) il prezzo si scostava del 20%
poco, tanto.. non lo so

tuttavia sono risultati utili a pensare

@fillippone grazie per avermi spronato, altrimenti non avrei mai scritto queste mie riflessioni
perche sono tali e non voglio che siano previsioni alla planb Smiley (infatti notare la figura barbina)
Tutti (pochi a dire il vero) leoni da tastiera.  Si vede da marte che c' è una bolla enorme su btc. Per fortuna voi non rischiate nulla perché a parere mio avete al massimo qualche Satoshi,  il resto è studio. È entrata la finanza vera e, come dissi 9 10 mesi fa, quando avranno trovato abbastanza polli da spennare,  la bolla esploderà e ci saranno conseguenze tremende.  Poi voi potete costruire tutti gli schemi ed i grafici che volete ma si vede e solo un credulone non la vede

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23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / The best 2021 shittoken on BNB on: December 26, 2021, 05:03:12 PM
 I think that the tokens on binance are 99,9% scam, and I recommend to be careful also to usdc; here I have made a selection of the worst 5. who will win?
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is there a token on Bsc that isn' t a scam? on: December 22, 2021, 07:48:32 AM
I think I can coin a new term: shittoken. And almost all the tokens on binance smart chain are.
25  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: December 21, 2021, 07:42:41 PM
Non so se ne abbiate già parlato ma la Consob ha bloccato l'accesso ad altri due exchange, ed uno dei due è Gate.io che non è proprio piccolino. Ancora una volta ringraziamo quei falliti che hanno fatto causa a Binance mettendo la pulce nell'orecchio alla Consob riguardo tutto il mondo cripto, quindi ora un poco alla volta li stanno bloccando tutti.
Binance, in particolare sui futures è palesemente un casinò in cui il banco vince sempre quindi è come voler far causa al casinò perché si è perso. Ma penso che la pulce nell' orecchio di quel comitato di falliti quale la consob è l' abbiano messa Draghi e soci. L' economia italiana è marcia fino al midollo, quasi da rank C ed i responsabili di ciò sono proprio loro.
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is there a token on Bsc that isn' t a scam? on: December 20, 2021, 02:02:32 PM
it's amazing how legendary comments can be read saying they are not scams but no one gives an example.
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is there a token on Bsc that isn' t a scam? on: December 19, 2021, 08:09:13 PM
My question is: is there some token on bsc that isn' t pumped for bull trap?

50:50 (scam : real), but from my eyes, there are too many projects that only play hype and fomo, after the fomo disappears the coin value also disappears.  i think you know,  what i mean abaout coin on bsc
i think it is so optimistic.
Let's see what a scam means: if the token reaches a stratospheric maximum in a day or even in a month and then loses 60/95% it is a scam. See ryoshitoken for example. Why don't we give a couple of examples of tokens that are continuing to rise or remain more or less stable?
28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is there a token on Bsc that isn' t a scam? on: December 19, 2021, 07:35:20 AM
The fundamental problem is that these tokens are completely useless tokens and therefore are worth nothing. They are not linked to industrial or commercial initiatives but only to financial and speculative dynamics. Unfortunately I have not received an answer to the topic: The name of a defi token which is not a scam but which is profitable
29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: December 18, 2021, 04:44:10 PM
I will express, perhaps, an unpopular opinion in this topic, but it seems to me ltc project is slowly dying.
No it is not dying. It is much better than Dogecoin and if you see Dogecoin alive why do you see Litecoin is dying. Litecoin has very good network hashrate and it means a lot about its health

Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, Dogecoin are a few altcoins from years ago still be alive now and they will be alive next more years.

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How much has the hashrate and the number of transactions of ltc changed in recent years? It seems to me that it has decreased, not increased. Correct me if I am wrong. How much has the price changed? Almost nothing and the price is marking time in one place, which means that the coin is not bought. This is a direct indicator that the project is not of interest to investors. It seems to me that the best days of ltc are over.
You can check it with block explorers
Hashrate: https://blockchair.com/litecoin/charts/hashrate
Transaction count: https://blockchair.com/litecoin/charts/transaction-count
I don't see how it looks like dying.

Ok, but why doesn't the price rise then? Few people believe in the future of the project?  This is also a definite indicator, isn't it. If investors believed in ltc, they would buy it and hold, which would lead to their further growth. But we don't see this.  The price was unable to renew even the previous maximum.  

It needs a powerful hype to do that. LTC is a calm crypto.
calm i don' t think so. In one day - or + 25% is not calm.The price is controlled to keep commissions low. if it reached 1000 the commissions would increase by 7 times. already today to move 1000 dollars it takes 3 dollars. If it reaches 1000 it would take $ 30
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is there a token on Bsc that isn' t a scam? on: December 10, 2021, 07:11:15 AM
Just two fast examples of scam tokens:
Ryoshi-token from 11 sat/dollar to 3 sat/dollar in 1 month
Bnbtc from 0,17 dollars to 0,06 dollars one week.
I think is not a solid market.  It' s better a coin with Pow, difficulty and blockchain.  These tokens are all scam projects.
31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: December 09, 2021, 07:27:38 PM
I have the impression that you want to keep it low. Probably due to fees. It is a safe crypto to move value at low cost, if it went up to 1000 there would no longer be the same convenience I suppose. But perhaps it would be time to implement a platform on which to swap and create a platform with tokens that can be generated by LTC.
32  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: December 04, 2021, 06:13:22 PM
Oggi ho ricevuto mail dalla banca che mi invitava a ripetere il questionario Mifid per operare su derivati, cosa che a me serve solo perché avevo comperato un Etc su Btc.
Avevo fatto il questionario meno di due mesi fa (prima non era necessario) ed ora sono obbligato a rifarlo perché è cambiato.
Mi dico: che due cog@@ni!  sono soldi MIEI, sarò ben libero di spenderli come voglio?
Se andassi a zoccole mi chiederebbero di fare Mifid?

Quando succedono queste cose mi sento come se qualcuno mi chiedesse di giustificare azioni che riguardano cose che sono comunque già mie: una sensazione fastidiosissima!

Scusate la poco attinenza con il thread, forse scrivo qui perché quando succedono queste cose c'è in me un forte impulso a comperare qualche sats  Wink



Sono prima obbligati loro per legge a farlo.

Basta che lo dichiari, che tu ne sia consapevole e che questa tua scelta sia esplicita.
Come è già stato detto, in caso di eventuale contezioso, in pratica non esiste contenzioso.

Sono convinto che in caso di perdita sostanziosa che ci sarebbe chi proverebbe ad incolpare la banca di avergli suggerito in un investimento troppo rischioso,
non compatibile con le sue conoscenze e/o in maniera non trasparente.

C'è chi lo farà comunque.
Te lo dico per esperienza personale c'è gente che ha avuto anche una raccomandazione personalizzata su come investire, in base a somma impiegata,
orizzonte temporale, propensione al rischio; ovviamente raccomandazione scritta;
ma poi ha voluto fare di testa sua, perdendo... sono quelli che poi urlano al mondo e gira che ti rigira; poi trovano l'avvocatino rampante che cavalca il loro
risentimento e ci rimettono anche le spese legali.

scusami paolo, ma quale legge? Chi fa questa legge la fa pensando che le crypto sono la mafia e le banche lo stato. Quando al cliente gli hai scritto " c' è il rischio di perdere tutto il capitale investito " e lui lo ha accettato,  che deve sottoscrivere più? Si usa la burocrazia per cercare di frenare un investimento ma non si fa niente per fermare a tempo debito i vari Tango bond, Parmalat, Mps, Diamanti e bond Argentini. Se continuano così le banche diverranno la parte minoritaria dell' economia
33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: November 15, 2021, 01:04:31 PM
Litecoin is accepted anywhere VISA is.. the Litecoin Card converts LTC at the time of purchase. You can also connect the card with the
Litewallet_App!


https://twitter.com/litecoin/status/1459931739745259525
 
monthly fees 5$, activation fee 10$. Why i must use this visa and not the visa of my bank that is free?
34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is there a token on Bsc that isn' t a scam? on: November 11, 2021, 07:03:02 AM
My question is: is there some token on bsc that isn' t pumped for bull trap?
In this case, it is very difficult to know that the coin is going up due to a bull trap, or has other plans behind it. however, to search for tokens like you think, it would require deep research. What I mean to say is, don't just look at the coin based on the chart, but try to look at the function and development of the token. after that you can conclude, whether the token deserves a high price, or is it just a bull trap.
no doubt the spirit of those who buy these tokens must be: invest only what you are willing to lose. I don't understand why no one has yet devised a method to link the smartcontract created with the cryptocurrencies owned. Let me explain: I make the smartcontract to generate the X token, it should turn out that this smartcontract was generated by someone who has, for example, 1000 eth or 1000 Bnb, this would already be a first guarantee.
35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Is there a token on Bsc that isn' t a scam? on: November 10, 2021, 04:29:50 PM
My question is: is there some token on bsc that isn' t pumped for bull trap?
36  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] [WORLD] 3L3+ ++ NO CLOWN no time waste. Hosted to Cryptoboreas on: November 10, 2021, 06:58:31 AM
L3’s really going for that much? I would sell 3 of em for half that lol

So are you selling those for 750 each? I'll buy them.

lol if I was selling yes but as they made ROI long ago, I am not selling. Would be too expensive to replace them. But yea if I was selling, I would not argue with 750. Again that is because I only paid $50 for them - most people selling for 1500 prolly paid a lot more.

miners do jump all over though - I remember paying 2300 for S9's back in Q1 2018.

I sell it at this price because it is its value. Why is an S19 that makes $ 30 a day worth $ 11,000? Yet the s19s are thrown in, while the L3s are not easy to find

oh I know. ROI should still be around 7-9 months not any longer. when you say 11k it becomes 15k after tariff's and even if no tariff - 11k puts it at 12 months to roi - if diff and price hold. That is too long.

but for yours - the price is right when calculating in the merged mining.

I apologize for derailing your thread.
😀 after a month, we have a roi of 5 months. Not bad i think
37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ryoshi token - new meme- alternative to ethereum blockchain on: November 08, 2021, 06:59:54 AM
We are starting to talk about this new meme with the name of the founder of shiba but much more sustainable and exchangeable since it is not influenced by the ethereum network.
Mentioning to be alternative to ethereum blockchain was only a misleading title. Some people will think if your shit token will be using your own blockchain instead if use the existing blockchain that already exist in the market. I guess it must be changed. What do you mean with name of founder of shiba? This is so hard to be understood BTW. Can you tell me how can you measure it will be sustainable or not?


It rests on bsc20, much cheaper and more versatile. It is a bit of the fashion of the moment and in my opinion it is appropriate to talk about it here too. In the telegram group there are already 11k members and it is well traded in particular on pancake swaps.
No doubt, your meme token is just like another meme token that exist in BSC chain. BSC was a favorite blockchain for meme token creator to issue their own shit token.  Roll Eyes
It uses a blockchain that already exists in the market and is much cheaper than ethereum. In particular for swap transactions. It is clear that it could also reveal the usual shitcoin but for now it has good volumes and a moderate success on the various coingecko and companies. I want to emphasize that, currently, only BTC and eth among the big companies is beyond the maximum. So, if we make a general speech, you shouldn't really buy altcoins. but would it be fair since they represent 50% of the market?
38  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: November 07, 2021, 09:52:27 PM
perhaps litecoin should begin to develop a hybrid between swaps and smartcontracts as it is moving in that direction. Why is development so static? if you need funds, raise them. we are not left behind!
39  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Ryoshi token - new meme- warning! Can be a scam on: November 07, 2021, 09:48:04 PM
We are starting to talk about this new meme with the name of the founder of shiba but much more sustainable and exchangeable since it is not influenced by the ethereum network. It rests on bsc20, much cheaper and more versatile. It is a bit of the fashion of the moment and in my opinion it is appropriate to talk about it here too. In the telegram group there are already 11k members and it is well traded in particular on pancake swaps.

short warning: Memes are content of a humorous nature so these tokens should be treated as such. If they become fashionable because the crowd finds them funny, they acquire value, otherwise they can turn out to be shitcoins.
40  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: Shiba Inu, the DOGE Killer: a Decentralized Deflationary Store of Value on: November 05, 2021, 01:23:31 PM
no way shib can get to $1


maybe 10 cents max
No bad. But i think is difficult
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