Qtum is Bitcoin with Smart Contact and POS !
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Elastic need more exchanges and also need motivate people to participate this project.
it may have a big picture as IPFS.
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byteball should have half of the marketcap of iota
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skycoin is one of the few coins have the good tech
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few coins have a bright future, just need more time.
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byteball is one of the few coin have long term Value.
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Quote from: skycoin on March 16, 2017, 04:54:31 PM
- https://qtum.orgQtum, will probably replace ethereum because it is simpler and has fewer problems. The UXTO model is much cleaner. They have a lot of previous developers and have already done two previous coins and are the best team I have seen so far. I won't trust dev that promoting qtum-SCAM..... I have not looked at qtum's code. We know the qtum founder and he is one of the largest investors in Skycoin from four years ago, before qtum or any of this. Some of the people around him are legendary scammers, but he is not a scammer. I think Patricks role in the bitbay situation is exaggerated. I read through the arguments and it just sounds like drama. Many of the people in the Bitcoin community are sociopaths. They often steal things or cause drama, then immediately blame it or scapegoat it on someone else. They are not even done stealing the money, before they go on campaign of moral indignation against the fall person. I think Patrick was blamed for Bitbay because his personality makes him an easy victim for sociopaths and the human predators in the bitcoin community. There are people walking around, sizing people up and trying to determine whether they can manipulate someone, setup a scam, steal things and who is going to be gullible or a fall person. If you knew the people involved, you would understand what the social dynamic is. >Also how can you be so confident qtum is going to replace ETH based on it's tech when they haven't released code yet? Ethereum is using an accounts model, like Ripple. Which is anti-blockchain and anti-privacy and very traceable. It is against the philosophy of Bitcoin. All coins going forward will be on the UXTO model and it is best practice for blockchain. Moving turing complete smart contracts off of accounts model and onto UXTO is extremely important and that is what qtum appears to be doing. We need to figure out how to do general computation on a UXTO model. Instead of being restrained to the Ripple/Ethereum accounts model. I think they will get closer to the goal, but only get there part way - thin client for smart contracts (major limitation for existing system) - moving smart contracts onto UXTO (major milestone) I do not know if qtum has succeeded, but they seem to be going in right direction. I talked to one of their technical leads and they were focused on "Getting it working with something we can do now" and then incremental improvement over time. So first implementing the Ethereum virtual machine on top of UXTO, then working out the research problems for a native turing complete UXTO language later. I do not know if there is a way to full UXTO while still having "gas". I think you will need to get rid of the "gas". In the ethereum model to take full advantage. I do not know if qtum will be able to go far enough in doing that, but is heading in the correct direction. Ethereum tries to be both a token and a computer. - we started with pure tokens (Bitcoin) - then we added a computer to the tokens (Ethereum) - now we just trying to figure out how to build pure computer on UXTO - Then once we have the computer, the tokens or coins just become a program or entity running on this "distributed computer" Bitcoin, Ethereum, qtum, byteballs, etc are just stepping stones. Towards a final solution. None of these will exist or be relevant in ten years. We are in an age of transition and I am looking at the projects that are getting closer to the goal, in a pure mathematical sense. Even Skycoin is being ripped up and its foundations constantly rewritten when it is advantageous to do so. Bitcoin is static and relatively unchanging, while Ethereum has been able to get the community to accept constant small changes. Skycoin is on a punctuated equilibrium model, where we do bug fixes and polishing, then completely rip up and rebuild the foundation as needed, then go back to bug fixes and polishing. Right now, we are exploring new networking primitives and the advantage of immutable data structures, but are still on blockchain. Putting EVM on UXTO is heading towards immutable data structures from the perspective of computation, while we are heading towards immutable data structures from the path of consensus, networking and simplifying object synchronization protocols. One of the pilots that is being spun out of that project is the distibuted, peer-to-peer social media platform built upon immutable data structures and peer-to-peer object replication. For this Skycoin chose a public key, cryptographic publisher/subscriber model and DAG immutable object tree. While Ethereum's project chose a Kadmelia DHT block storage model. Ignoring the individuals and the drama, I am just looking at the "future direction" and who is heading in that direction. >Also how can you be so confident qtum is going to replace ETH based on it's tech when they haven't released code yet? I am not confident it will replace Ethereum. At the start, it will be equivalent to ethereum in terms of being able to run the Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM) on top of qtum with UXTO. Then they will do a native language. It will depend on the implementation. I do not know if qtum has succeeded, but they seem to be going in right direction. Similarly, Byteballs may fail or may not exist in ten years, but they are pioneering the first experiments into replacing the Blockchain with a DAG. Which we have been considering for several years now. Similarly, Bitcoin was the first but people are getting used to the idea that it will not be the final or best cryptocurrency. That it was just the first generation and that we can build better and improve it substantially. thank you skycoin dev, because of you, i brought into qtum and made some money. i like this post, everyone should read it.
that's one of the most exciting post this year.there are a lot of insights in this post. people will realize this later. this is the really the nice insights before Qtum ICO right now, i think more and more people can realize this.
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how is the project going now?
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how is the development going?
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how is everything going?
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just come back and say hi, Elastic is one of favorite coin since 2012.
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Thailand — A Qtum AdventureThis past week, part of the Qtum team ventured to Thailand to share our knowledge of blockchain technology with local citizens, businesses, and government officials. No matter where you go, people always illustrate some sort of patriotism. Thailand was no different. The Thai people were extremely open to finding out how blockchain technology could benefit them and their country. In Thailand, Energo Labs CEO, Ray Chu, and Energo angel backer Bo Song, along with Qtum met with several institutions to enlighten people about the opportunities at hand. We had lunch with Korn Dabbaransi, a former deputy prime minister of Thailand, and his son Ko Dabbaransi. The two were very open about the need to innovate and accelerate Thailand’s growing economy with blockchain technology and Qtum.Korn Dabbaransi & Patrick Dai Mr. Dabbaransi, who often speaks about the economic benefits of the One Belt One Road in Asia, immediately saw how blockchain technologies like Qtum could be synergistic to these multinational efforts. After lunch, Mr. Dabbaransi introduced Qtum to several representatives from Krungsri Bank. Krungsri, who is a member of MUFG’s global financial group, was very aware of distributed ledger technologies because MUFG is a member of Ripple’s Global Payments Steering Group.Qtum at Krungsri Realizing how Qtum and Energo could assist in several projects that the Thai people were interested in, our teams were invited back to continue our discussions and to make progress towards our shared visions. Given that the blockchain community was relatively small in Thailand, there’s large potential for Qtum. This is why we plan to setup some partnerships with local universities and establish a blockchain research center. We believe these long-term initiatives will benefit Thailand and Qtum. thanks for the great updates.
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Quote from: skycoin on March 16, 2017, 04:54:31 PM
- https://qtum.orgQtum, will probably replace ethereum because it is simpler and has fewer problems. The UXTO model is much cleaner. They have a lot of previous developers and have already done two previous coins and are the best team I have seen so far. I won't trust dev that promoting qtum-SCAM..... I have not looked at qtum's code. We know the qtum founder and he is one of the largest investors in Skycoin from four years ago, before qtum or any of this. Some of the people around him are legendary scammers, but he is not a scammer. I think Patricks role in the bitbay situation is exaggerated. I read through the arguments and it just sounds like drama. Many of the people in the Bitcoin community are sociopaths. They often steal things or cause drama, then immediately blame it or scapegoat it on someone else. They are not even done stealing the money, before they go on campaign of moral indignation against the fall person. I think Patrick was blamed for Bitbay because his personality makes him an easy victim for sociopaths and the human predators in the bitcoin community. There are people walking around, sizing people up and trying to determine whether they can manipulate someone, setup a scam, steal things and who is going to be gullible or a fall person. If you knew the people involved, you would understand what the social dynamic is. >Also how can you be so confident qtum is going to replace ETH based on it's tech when they haven't released code yet? Ethereum is using an accounts model, like Ripple. Which is anti-blockchain and anti-privacy and very traceable. It is against the philosophy of Bitcoin. All coins going forward will be on the UXTO model and it is best practice for blockchain. Moving turing complete smart contracts off of accounts model and onto UXTO is extremely important and that is what qtum appears to be doing. We need to figure out how to do general computation on a UXTO model. Instead of being restrained to the Ripple/Ethereum accounts model. I think they will get closer to the goal, but only get there part way - thin client for smart contracts (major limitation for existing system) - moving smart contracts onto UXTO (major milestone) I do not know if qtum has succeeded, but they seem to be going in right direction. I talked to one of their technical leads and they were focused on "Getting it working with something we can do now" and then incremental improvement over time. So first implementing the Ethereum virtual machine on top of UXTO, then working out the research problems for a native turing complete UXTO language later. I do not know if there is a way to full UXTO while still having "gas". I think you will need to get rid of the "gas". In the ethereum model to take full advantage. I do not know if qtum will be able to go far enough in doing that, but is heading in the correct direction. Ethereum tries to be both a token and a computer. - we started with pure tokens (Bitcoin) - then we added a computer to the tokens (Ethereum) - now we just trying to figure out how to build pure computer on UXTO - Then once we have the computer, the tokens or coins just become a program or entity running on this "distributed computer" Bitcoin, Ethereum, qtum, byteballs, etc are just stepping stones. Towards a final solution. None of these will exist or be relevant in ten years. We are in an age of transition and I am looking at the projects that are getting closer to the goal, in a pure mathematical sense. Even Skycoin is being ripped up and its foundations constantly rewritten when it is advantageous to do so. Bitcoin is static and relatively unchanging, while Ethereum has been able to get the community to accept constant small changes. Skycoin is on a punctuated equilibrium model, where we do bug fixes and polishing, then completely rip up and rebuild the foundation as needed, then go back to bug fixes and polishing. Right now, we are exploring new networking primitives and the advantage of immutable data structures, but are still on blockchain. Putting EVM on UXTO is heading towards immutable data structures from the perspective of computation, while we are heading towards immutable data structures from the path of consensus, networking and simplifying object synchronization protocols. One of the pilots that is being spun out of that project is the distibuted, peer-to-peer social media platform built upon immutable data structures and peer-to-peer object replication. For this Skycoin chose a public key, cryptographic publisher/subscriber model and DAG immutable object tree. While Ethereum's project chose a Kadmelia DHT block storage model. Ignoring the individuals and the drama, I am just looking at the "future direction" and who is heading in that direction. >Also how can you be so confident qtum is going to replace ETH based on it's tech when they haven't released code yet? I am not confident it will replace Ethereum. At the start, it will be equivalent to ethereum in terms of being able to run the Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM) on top of qtum with UXTO. Then they will do a native language. It will depend on the implementation. I do not know if qtum has succeeded, but they seem to be going in right direction. Similarly, Byteballs may fail or may not exist in ten years, but they are pioneering the first experiments into replacing the Blockchain with a DAG. Which we have been considering for several years now. Similarly, Bitcoin was the first but people are getting used to the idea that it will not be the final or best cryptocurrency. That it was just the first generation and that we can build better and improve it substantially. thank you skycoin dev, because of you, i brought into qtum and made some money. i like this post, everyone should read it.
that's one of the most exciting post this year.there are a lot of insights in this post. people will realize this later.
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And how or when can i lend out my computing power?
On the way.. Just wait full Version with all functionalities. any scheluded date for that? Keep patient.. thanks for the great updates. looking forward the full version of Elastic.
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i hope this 500000 XEL will worth 10M dollars in 1-2 years.
please also send some to other devs man.
thank you for make this happen.
i am happy i find some good people in crypto.
Hi, wow, I have no idea what to say ... for you it's a click, for me it can be a complete life changer. I love you, honestly, and I have never seen a spirit like this anywhere else. It's awesome and unique. The moment I saw your donation, I have been doing the smurf dance across my living room. However, there is a little problem: I can't distribute anything to other developers myself. I am working together with a law firm which also does my annual tax returns. Unfortunately I have to pay around 50% (slightly more) in taxes on everything that I receive. So if I pay 50% of it to my country and distribute 50% to others, I end up with nothing :-) That's the law here. So to make it correct, I could send it back to you, and leave the distribution up to you? So you can give me exactly the amount you want me to keep for myself? Still, thank you so much ... either way, you turn me form average to king kong! What a great person you are! @prevenceday - here's all the team's XEL accounts if you need them. How to support Elastic Dev (thank you)EK: My car is on the verge of breaking down ;-) Time to replace it with something new and maybe save a polar bear! If you like to support me, without any reward desired, there you go: BTC: 1Liz5VpeqYEUQXdU8yepPRc3erZQDKDajm ETH: 3a43e0311a02743de52878543c92a13170efbeee XEL: XEL-6W9S-LUCN-B5QX-E459J Coralreefer: XEL: XEL-AZJK-TAVH-3KN3-9EZSH (Donations for work done on the Elastic project) unvoid XEL: XEL-HCM8-KB6E-YFLK-8BWMF Rallier: I am going to get married(July) for wedding gifts & donation elastic works; XEL: XEL-P6RX-X5BL-5VKU-5AC66 how to support elastic project? here we go.
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But wouldn't this make me an asshole? I could only accept that if the rest of the community will ignore my XEL address in the future and take care of the other devs instead of sending me anything anymore. Especially, the hole thing is worthless without coralreefer! And the whole thing wouldn't have gone live without the rest.
hi man, i just found i leave a hard problem for you. sorry for this. ok then i have to make the hard decision for you. please keep 320k for yourself send Coralreefer 120k send unvoid 50k send Rallier 10k i love you all, forgive me if i am not fair. thank you guys!
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i hope this 500000 XEL will worth 10M dollars in 1-2 years.
please also send some to other devs man.
thank you for make this happen.
i am happy i find some good people in crypto.
Hi, wow, I have no idea what to say ... for you it's a click, for me it can be a complete life changer. I love you, honestly, and I have never seen a spirit like this anywhere else. It's awesome and unique. The moment I saw your donation, I have been doing the smurf dance across my living room. However, there is a little problem: I can't distribute anything to other developers myself. I am working together with a law firm which also does my annual tax returns. Unfortunately I have to pay around 50% (slightly more) in taxes on everything that I receive. So if I pay 50% of it to my country and distribute 50% to others, I end up with nothing :-) That's the law here. So to make it correct, I could send it back to you, and leave the distribution up to you? So you can give me exactly the amount you want me to keep for myself? Still, thank you so much ... either way, you turn me form average to king kong! What a great person you are! hi man, then keep this 500 000 XEL only for yourself. thank you. i think the left community will take care of other Elastic devs. just enjoy your day and buy some beer.
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I hold 21,000 XEL due to some very generous community members...and I received one small bounty from Lannister back in October...I don't feel I owe the investors of this project anything.
Now, it's 25k here you go man, as a NXT coin investor, i do not really care how much i have.... just sent you half million XEL because as a developer in crypto for 5 years, i know the feeling. i hope this 500000 XEL will worth 10M dollars in 1-2 years. please also send some to other devs man. thank you for make this happen. i am happy i find some good people in crypto.
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do we have date for test net release?
By the end of this month we'll release the test network it will be great news for qtum holder As a QTUM holder I've already 24x my initial investment. To the moon, boys. yes, you are lucky.
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