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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 44495 funded addresses. 2,064,149 txs. 5 block explorers on: February 20, 2018, 11:21:42 AM
If there is a stolen money, then this is either a developer fraud, or a bad defense against hacker attacks.

That's why I voted for making Mooncoin more secure over and over again. But Mooncoin Foundation and some others blocked that - for example my suggestion of making MOON a PoS/PoW-hybrid coin or implementing another - more complex algo or technology - making it a little harder to attack Mooncoin, instead of spending development-power on MoonWord, SmartLikes and other relatively uninteresting things. If these really were interesting for the cryptoworld, the price would be much, much higher already - because as an investor you know an important rule: buy the rumor, sell the fact. Now we have the mess by setting wrong priorities.

I repeat it once again: If the basics of a coin don't work, then the rest is pointless.

@agswinner: I have been absent for a longer time for good reason. Part of it was to see, whether what I thought and warned you of, will come true. And it came true. Mooncoin was attacked and again some of the Mooncoin-people now are trying to draw the wrong conclusions (i.e "burning" coins).

As for the government trying to overtake: I did not mean a government like that of the U.S., but the government of the some here always trying to sell some peoples opinions as the truth and the "decision of the community".
Maybe you have not read the excerpt in full or did not understand it completely: the most important conclusion from that excerpt is, to not censor coins, because it undermines trust in a currency. As sad as it is, that these coins eventually will come to the market again and that previous owners don't want to buy their own coins again, when they are correctly handed to the authorities, as good it is to show the cryptoworld, that Mooncoin has corrected the mistake it made.

There were others here before, who described this as a big problem. But they were ignored.
And now everyone complains about Mooncoin "not taking off" and cries for "burning the coins" to make it go to the moon. Again a wrong path, which will make it even worse.

Btw: there are many others, that may not even post here, but are also part of "the community".


edit:

Here the link to the mentioned excerpt again: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Weaknesses#Attacker_has_a_lot_of_computing_power

...and the text from there:
"Prevent any transactions spending "stolen" coins, effectively destroying those coins. If the coins clearly are stolen, then there is a risk that this action will be accepted by the Bitcoin community, but this would set a very damaging precedent. If it becomes possible for coins to be blacklisted in this way, then it is a slippery slope toward blacklisting of other "suspicious" coins."
22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 44495 funded addresses. 2,064,149 txs. 5 block explorers on: February 17, 2018, 02:31:59 PM
COINEXCHANGE.IO UPDATE

Coinexchange has resolved my issue with mooncoin withdrawal after about 2 months of waiting. The profit from the bubble was lost but at least I got the coin back.

The next price rise will come. That's the character of (stock) markets. Patience is the key.

Warren Buffett:
"The stock market is a wonderfully efficient mechanism for transferring wealth from the impatient to the patient."

http://www.azquotes.com/quote/877076


Edit:
Maybe also interesting to read in that regard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_market_cycles

From there:
"Well known cycles include:

    The lunar cycle
    Annual seasonality, also known as Sell in May or the Halloween indicator. As well as the January effect and July effect.
    The four-year United States presidential election cycle in the US.
    The 17.6 Year Stock Market Cycle
    The 60 year Kondratiev cycles"

See the line in bold. That's why it is sad, that the block-reward for Mooncoin-miners has been altered by some here from the lunar cycle-based 29531 MOON ( see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_phase ) to some other (decreasing) payout scheme.

From the original Mooncoin-ann-thread:

"Block rewards:

Blocks 1-100,000: 0-2,000,000 MOON
Blocks 100,001-200,000: 0-1,000,000 MOON
Blocks 200,001-250,000: 0-600,000 MOON
Blocks 250,001-300,000: 0-350,000 MOON
Blocks 300,001-350,000: 0-175,000 MOON
Blocks 350,001-375,000: 0-100,000 MOON
Blocks 375,001-384,400: 0-50,000 MOON

All future blocks are a fixed 29531 MOON."

There was no real need to alter that.

“... has been altered by some here “...by comunity.
But the legendary creator Deacoombogie  disappeared. He is probably a professor of university mathematics? as you can guess from the old ANN by a few conversations ....
what does the mooncoin lunar landing Apollo 11 in July 2014 have to do with the lunar cycle?
Low inflation is a basic function until moon reaches the big markets

Just because some here in the thread and/or in closed communication would like to lower the payout, does not make it a community-backed decision. As allsnioc posted, this would need a real vote. So it is perfectly ok, saying it was altered by "some". Other "somes" may not even have been asked or don't follow the channels - at least not regularly. So it may be backed by a part of "the community", but it is certainly no democratic decision.

Anyway, the dev who coded this (barrysty1e) is gone now and in the light of this, those kind of changes in the code could be perceived by knowledgable investors as short-sighted hectic and desperate tries to drive the price up. This is not desirable for a serious, classic coin. If it was, then LTC or BTC would need to change their code immediately regarding the payouts, because this would drive the price for them, too.

deaconboogie set the coin up as Mooncoin, so he does not necessarily be a mathematics guru. But he chose the payout-scheme nicely in coherence to the name and the theme of this coin. So why would one alter that, if it means absolutely NO difference, whether 29531 MOON or 16000-something or even 10000 are paid out to the miners? With the amount of MOON already in circulation, this change really makes absolutely no difference. Regarding the Mooncoin lunar landing: Because it is Mooncoin, it makes sense. At least it is better marketing, than trying to "lock" coins by code, which is non-effective by design and furthermore creates censorship - see here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Weaknesses#Attacker_has_a_lot_of_computing_power - excerpt:

"Probably the most likely scenario where this attack would be employed would be for a government to try to get control over Bitcoin by acquiring a majority of hashing power (either directly or by enforcing rules on private miners within its borders). Then this government could use the transaction-censorship power listed above to do things like:

    Prevent any transactions spending "stolen" coins, effectively destroying those coins. If the coins clearly are stolen, then there is a risk that this action will be accepted by the Bitcoin community, but this would set a very damaging precedent. If it becomes possible for coins to be blacklisted in this way, then it is a slippery slope toward blacklisting of other "suspicious" coins.
    Prevent all transactions from unknown people, so everyone has to register with the government in order to transact."

So trying to force Vassilis to "burn" the coins, he has received on his address, is exactly the same kind of the above methods. It will attract short-sighted investors (or better: speculators), that want the quick buck and they will keep coming back complaining, if the hot air of that measure - if any - is out of the coin again.

Mooncoin needs a stable and serious development, ironing-out of bugs and strong and friendly support of normal investors by a competent dev, as well as strong efforts to get it listed on further, bigger exchanges. Not a new soldier-of-fortune-feature or short-sighted-speculator-candy every day or week. That's all what it takes. If Mooncoin has achieved this, one could think about new features, if necessary. But first of all, serious investors need stability, honesty and a proven record of development. Everyone can write a white paper or a "roadmap", but developing a stable coin that becomes a "classic" or a "no-brainer" to invest in, needs much more than changing the block-reward or burning coins. Why not burn every coin except of 43, to become the brother of 42-coin? Why not do a swap and set the deadline to next week, so that the result is, that all earlier holders of MOON are out of the game? They would recognize months later, when they look again at their wallet, that their coins are useless then.

I hope you see, that all this is not the solution, but creates new problems that do not really help Mooncoin, but only makes a nice flash-in-the pan for pump-and-dumpers.
23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 44495 funded addresses. 2,064,149 txs. 5 block explorers on: February 17, 2018, 09:34:07 AM
COINEXCHANGE.IO UPDATE

Coinexchange has resolved my issue with mooncoin withdrawal after about 2 months of waiting. The profit from the bubble was lost but at least I got the coin back.

The next price rise will come. That's the character of (stock) markets. Patience is the key.

Warren Buffett:
"The stock market is a wonderfully efficient mechanism for transferring wealth from the impatient to the patient."

http://www.azquotes.com/quote/877076


Edit:
Maybe also interesting to read in that regard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_market_cycles

From there:
"Well known cycles include:

    The lunar cycle
    Annual seasonality, also known as Sell in May or the Halloween indicator. As well as the January effect and July effect.
    The four-year United States presidential election cycle in the US.
    The 17.6 Year Stock Market Cycle
    The 60 year Kondratiev cycles"

See the line in bold. That's why it is sad, that the block-reward for Mooncoin-miners has been altered by some here from the lunar cycle-based 29531 MOON ( see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_phase ) to some other (decreasing) payout scheme.

From the original Mooncoin-ann-thread:

"Block rewards:

Blocks 1-100,000: 0-2,000,000 MOON
Blocks 100,001-200,000: 0-1,000,000 MOON
Blocks 200,001-250,000: 0-600,000 MOON
Blocks 250,001-300,000: 0-350,000 MOON
Blocks 300,001-350,000: 0-175,000 MOON
Blocks 350,001-375,000: 0-100,000 MOON
Blocks 375,001-384,400: 0-50,000 MOON

All future blocks are a fixed 29531 MOON."

There was no real need to alter that.
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 44495 funded addresses. 2,064,149 txs. 5 block explorers on: February 16, 2018, 11:34:02 AM
ok, transaction now back and coins in my wallet. Where to add the nodes? In my debug window, it says error, Method not found.

Alternatively you could add the nodes as a list to a config-file in the Mooncoin-directory (edit: it should be in a subfolder of your username directory, just search for it, should be ..\username\AppData\Roaming\Mooncoin).
Open a text-editor, name the new file mooncoin.conf and simply copy&paste the list from the above link into that file. Save it. Then restart the wallet. The wallet should find some working nodes and connect.

Here's another list of addnodes: https://novaexchange.com/addnodes/MOON/
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 44495 funded addresses. 2,064,149 txs. 5 block explorers on: February 16, 2018, 11:18:47 AM
I got the latest version. Where do I have add -zapwallettxes ? Is this a command at the debig console?

It has to be added to the path to your mooncoin-wallet.exe when you start it up. So depending on where you saved/installed that file, it would look like so: c:\path\to\mooncoin\mooncoin.exe -zapwallettxes

You can change the properties of a desktop-shortcut by right-clicking and adding the option to the shown path and then click on the shortcut. It would start with that setting then. Remember to set it back to original, to prevent using that setting every time the wallet starts.

Have you tried adding nodes manually to get more connections? That could help, to get the tx propagated to the network.
See here on the left side of the page: https://www.coinexchange.io/network/peers/MOON

Then open the console and add some nodes one by one via (for example)

Code:
addnode 146.185.138.147 add
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 44495 funded addresses. 2,064,149 txs. 5 block explorers on: February 16, 2018, 11:06:21 AM
I want to send some Moon to another address but nothing happen since 16 hours. I can´t cancel it. Has anybody same problem? This is the current state:

Status: 0/unconfirmed, in memory pool
Datum: 15.02.2018 20:46
To: xxx (I added real correct address here)
Debit: -50000 MOON
Net amount: -50000 MOON
Transaction ID: (real tax id here)
Output index: 0

My qt wallet is synced and has 1 active connection. I also make a clean reinstall, no luck.



What's the version of your wallet? Check, if you use the latest one: https://github.com/mooncoincore/wallet/releases
You could also try restarting your wallet with -zapwallettxes added to the path (don't forget to remove that for the next startup then). This will "reset" all unsent transactions and your coins should reappear in the wallet's balance.
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 44495 funded addresses. 2,064,149 txs. 5 block explorers on: February 16, 2018, 09:42:08 AM
Is this coin alive?any planning to make this coin as masternode coin?


It's still alive after all the years.
The concept of masternodes could get in conflict with Mooncoins philosophy of decentralization.
28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 44495 funded addresses. 2,064,149 txs. 5 block explorers on: February 16, 2018, 08:23:28 AM
The coins were supposed to have been burnt long ago. All of the recent investors in the last two or three years expected them to be locked and unusable it's part of this coins history. they were released it was not planned and to not put them back into the state that they were unusable IE burnt would be a problem and this would cause people to lose faith.

That's why the coins should not have been tried to be "locked" in the first place anyway by wallet-code. From this only problems arise, as we see now. Anyone with only a little bit of technical knowledge knew, that it was only a matter of time (i.e.: price), when it would be profitable to start a 51%-attack to transfer the coins. The thief or one on his behalf would only need to rent enough hashpower and mine for a certain time with wallet-code, that has the limitations removed, until the coins were transferred and the transactions confirmed.

As said, the only real solution is to hand the stolen coins to the authorities, in order to end that chapter officially and with no possible harm for Vassilis afterwards, which would result from "burning" the coins.
29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 44495 funded addresses. 2,064,149 txs. 5 block explorers on: February 15, 2018, 11:25:03 PM
You should make an airdrop with the coins. Everyone gets 1000 mooncoins and everyone talks about mooncoin for a year. Everything else will be nothing in 10 years
This is a great idea, it would help promote the coin.  Except that burning the pile would perform a similar function.

Burning coins will erase credibility of Mooncoin.
An airdrop would attract attention, but decrease value, because anyone would ask, why does a serious old-school coin do such a promotion?
And if all of those airdropped coins are placed on the exchanges immediately, the price will drop more than ever.

To all of you this question: why did you invest in Mooncoin in the first place, if you do not accept the specs of the coin?

We were lied to, I didn't know we had corrupt devs that deal with stolen coins and people like barry who dumps all his mooncoins.

If the coins are given to the authorities by him, no one can say, Vassilis "deals with stolen coins". That's why this is the only real solution.
As for barrysty1e: you should ask him, why he is such an eccentric, short sighted person (btw.: where did you get the information, that he dumped all his coins? Just curious ...).
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 44495 funded addresses. 2,064,149 txs. 5 block explorers on: February 15, 2018, 11:05:11 PM
You should make an airdrop with the coins. Everyone gets 1000 mooncoins and everyone talks about mooncoin for a year. Everything else will be nothing in 10 years
This is a great idea, it would help promote the coin.  Except that burning the pile would perform a similar function.

Burning coins will erase credibility of Mooncoin.
An airdrop would attract attention, but decrease value, because anyone would ask, why does a serious old-school coin do such a promotion?
And if all of those airdropped coins are placed on the exchanges immediately, the price will drop more than ever.

To all of you this question: why did you invest in Mooncoin in the first place, if you do not accept the specs of the coin?
31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 44495 funded addresses. 2,064,149 txs. 5 block explorers on: February 15, 2018, 10:50:42 PM
Is there any reason why some here are looking for how to construct a burning address?

Just re-read the posts of allsnioc, he has asked all the relevant questions to be asked - and that leads to only one solution.

Hence I repeat what I said some weeks ago: the only solution can be to hand over the stolen coins to the relevant authorities of Vassilis' jurisdiction. Plain and simple. They are the only ones to handle this case correctly. If that means the coins are sold in an auction later on, then be it like so. But then no one has to bother any longer with this and Mooncoin can return to normal.
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 40594 funded addresses. 2,013,649 txs. 5 block explorers on: January 18, 2018, 10:49:16 PM
Guys everyone needs to stop selling if you are. We are killing ourselves. For those of us that really care for this project we also need to help provide a floor by buying. Is there a Telegram channel or something that we can talk in real time about buying. Im specifically concerned about the Moon/LTC pair which had great volumes and was starting to catch some attention on the other trade groups I belong too. Now no one is wanting to go near it while it corrects.....

This problem will take care of itself in a few months once the block reward is reduced by 70%. Simply selling less at anything under 15 santoshi when we are on an uptrend helps as well. Probably there was too much sold in the 1 to 3 santoshi range on the way up. Not enough people truly invested in the rally.

The reductions will not change anything. As I said, I have never understood, why anyone wanted to lower the reward at all.

This is from the old ann-thread:

---
Details:

Algorithm: scrypt
Max coins: 384,400,000,000 MOON (yes, billion!)
Block time: 90 Seconds
Difficulty re-target time: 8 hours
Pre-mining: Absolutely none!

Block rewards:

Blocks 1-100,000: 0-2,000,000 MOON
Blocks 100,001-200,000: 0-1,000,000 MOON
Blocks 200,001-250,000: 0-600,000 MOON
Blocks 250,001-300,000: 0-350,000 MOON
Blocks 300,001-350,000: 0-175,000 MOON
Blocks 350,001-375,000: 0-100,000 MOON
Blocks 375,001-384,400: 0-50,000 MOON

All future blocks are a fixed 29531 MOON.

Specials:

    On July 21st, 2014 it will be the 45th anniversary of the lunar landing by the Apollo 11 astronauts. On this date, Mooncoin will begin to release one MOON for every USD spent on the Apollo space program at an accelerated rate: 25.4 billion!
    Every block number based on the lunar cycle will be awarded a 2x payout bonus!
    Other specials will come in future releases. We're open to suggestions!

---

They were carefully chosen and would be great still. If 29531 or 17000 or 10000 MOON per block are rewarded, does not play a real role.

Mooncoin is Mooncoin and all here have to accept, that it has a large supply and be OK with it. It is a coin conceived for the long run and less for the get-rich-quick-type of folks. Even if they could profit big in the last days after the big rallye up to 2000% plus in Dollars (seen over the last weeks).

I really recommend all here to stay realistic. Where else can you get a profit of this size? Not in traditional markets.
Not enough people invested in the rallye? Hey man, up to a few million volume is a good thing - at least for Mooncoin. Now ALL markets are down and are slightly recovering and so does MOON. The volume will go up again. The crytocurrency-market is only at its beginning - or how many of your friends and family do you know, that own cryptos already?
33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 40594 funded addresses. 2,013,649 txs. 5 block explorers on: January 18, 2018, 08:50:15 PM
So, we had 27% of coins from the total supply stolled and do not know who is a victim!)
If we don`t know the victim`s name in the future who will decide what to do with the stollen funds?

Where did the hacked coins come from? Was it from cryptsy or a different exchange?

If my calculations are right that 62 billion is 27% of the circulating supply.

It was from Cryptsy derived addresses. Cryptsy was the biggest Altcoin exchange in 2014-2015, people kept a lot of coins there.
These coins were not returned to legitimate users (never keep coins at exchanges)
and their outputs were frozen in official wallets, it looks like someone who had a control on these addresses by having their private keys,
used unofficial wallets and a lot of hash power to overcome the protection,
and not all Cryptsy coins were sent to Vassilis' address. Some people mentioned that up to 17 Cryptsy derived billion were already dumped,
I don't know if it's true, anyways, exchanges were told to monitor the situation, and after that 62 bil went to Vassilis' address.
It was not a donation, these coins are 'unofficial', they belonged to users and majority of their holders agreed to freeze them earlier.
It was a small world in 2014-2015 and we know old members who are legitimate owners of majority of these coins.
Also people have submitted Cryptsy claims in 2017.  

Obviously, Mooncoin could easily reach 15-20 Sats, if this situation didn't occur suddenly,
now even junk coins have a market cap bigger than Mooncoin's one.
People worry that coins can be dumped, that's why they panic and sell their MOON at these levels.

We always discuss everything here in honest and transparent way.
Some people even complained earlier that it indicated a lack of professionalism and marketing skills.

In fact, very likely these coins will sit on Vassilis' address for months. Community members have different opinions on what to do with them.
So maybe even in 2019 they still will be on the same address. My suggestion is to burn them (except for coins which people will claim), but Vassilis needs a confirmation from lawyers that burning of coins (even if their legitimate owners agree to burn them) is legal.
There is a lack of crypto laws/crypto lawyers, so it can take much time to confirm that 100%.


I'd like to answer this post with some different information.

First of all, we all should be happy, that MOON is back in Satoshi-land and it looks, that it stabilizes there. After that phenomenal rise it is unrealistic, to speak of that it could have reached 15-20 sats. It was time for a strong correction, especially, if all other coins, including BTC encounter a sharp decline, too. Why should MOON be an exception (even if it was nice, of course, but one has to stay realistic). Maybe the uncertain situation of the funds send to Vassilis have sped that up, but if you look at how many Mooncoins are already outstanding, there could not have been too many of those "panic-sells".

All this is a sign, that Mooncoin is a stable and long-term-oriented currency, which, by the way, is exactly what the fundamentals of Mooncoin are. And a large supply is not the problem, it is the assurance in the future, that this stability will go on and on.
It is a nice thing for a currency and especially long-term-investors.

So I'll repeat, what I said: Even if the Cryptsy-funds are getting into circulation one day (maybe via an auction of the authorities or the receiver), it will be of no big harm for Mooncoin; maybe for a short time it will lower the price, but as we have seen in the past, every price-retracement made MOON stronger, because more and more people get in cheap. And that is, what many people think: Buying BTC? WAAAYYY too expensive. Let's buy other coins, that are much cheaper still and see what happens - maybe the same like with BTC. This is what will make Mooncoin successful in the long run: Stability and speed of transaction. Not to mention one of the best names in cryptocurrency-world.

I'll also repeat, that the best is, to hand the coins over to the authorities, because there do not need to be seperate "crypto-laws" for this and never will be. If it were like that, Cryptsy would not have been regulated by a receiver. The coins were stolen and the one who has access to them, is bound to give them to the appropriate authority or even the receiver itself. If he does not, then think what happens, if one person reports to the receiver, that the coins of Cryptsy are available again and who has them. The receiver might file a claim against the authorities of the European country, where Vassilis is living, to hand over the coins and/or report him to the police, who could investigate and finally demand extradition to the US. Remember: this is not a value of some bucks, but worth several million US$.
34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 40594 funded addresses. 2,013,649 txs. 5 block explorers on: January 18, 2018, 08:19:22 PM
I'll be blunt, I have zero faith in mooncoin if those stolen coins are not burned.  I can't not  tell others to invest in mooncoin while those billions of stolen mooncoins are still floating around.  I WOULD STAY FAR AWAY UNTIL THEY ARE BURNED.

Could you please explain, why you are posting here at all?
The specs of MOON are clearly stated all over the web. Only check coinmarketcap.

If you don't like coins with a supply as high as Mooncoin has, simply don't invest, but keep from posting such a nonsense here.
I assume, you also don't recommend DOGE, RDD or other large supply-coins to your friends, right? So go to their forums and post that jabberwocky. Maybe don't even invest in BTC, as all the stolen bitcoins have and will also be floating around.
35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 40594 funded addresses. 2,013,649 txs. 5 block explorers on: January 18, 2018, 08:13:42 PM
Hello, anybody can help me with some instruction:

I did a withdrawal of mooncoins from CoinExchange to Bleutrade at 12-22-2017, but the TXID dont exist in the moon blockchain explorer. And My tickets always closed without any solution.

Date of transaction: 2017-12-22 22:54:08
Withdrawal Address: 2T2CwbxAocQCukYC7so5bZy5tJiYgekoDm
Amount: 1063134.01751210
TXId: 415143c009f133f3396ce43673093125a7342846360f6677d69710dae129397b

Best Regards,

Claudio


Coinexchange.io sends a confirmation email for withdrawals. Make sure you click the link in the email to confirm the transaction. Check your spam folder.

Same here put withdraw of 2.4mil mooncoins on 23dec still nothing.. in wallet on bluetrade or on moonchain does not exists.
Coinexchange only telling you wait for 3 weeks block you on social media and tell you its unfortunate

they have no solution or so

I just made a withdrawal from coinexchange to Private Wallet and it worked
2FAJSpxWG6R5iTtNTnSqSDB7RD9CkbuYce
fd42163708d54b404bc51fa3c26ce600d173f01ec7627a282a95bebeeccc8591

They are talking about txes that were made during the time when the low-tx-fees were stuck.

Vassilis, could you contact coinexchange.io, in order to help solving the problem, they seem to have? It looks bad for Mooncoin, if an exchange does not communicate properly with its users, who obviously suffer from that problem, the wallet gave. That can happen, but should be handled correctly afterwards by the exchange. Maybe they will react better, if you as the developer get to them.
36  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 40594 funded addresses. 2,013,649 txs. 5 block explorers on: January 12, 2018, 11:58:53 PM
It doesn't seem chicken / egg as my 2cents

The volume of a coin, as far as I understood, is , at the end, linked to the use of that coin.
So, each blockchain , good or bad, compete with the others in order to move from the virtual world to the real one.
There are plenty of blockchain and plenty of coins.
Best coins are the ones in which the volume is steadily growing.
That mean that development team  know where to sell their tecnologies
may be I read it wrong , but low trading volume is worst than price dropping




The volume is not really linked to the use of a coin. Volume is only what happens on exchanges. USE is, what happens in real life. So volume is good, but even if a coin has a high volume on exchanges, that really does not mean, that it is used in real life.

Mooncoin has an ever growing volume. Now a little lower than in the past days of course, but that is pretty normal, since the trading is growing in waves. So for many people it is the ideal time to buy into Mooncoin now, since most other people only buy when it is near its alltime high and then are losing, because buying high and selling low is the worst you can do.
37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 40594 funded addresses. 2,013,649 txs. 5 block explorers on: January 12, 2018, 05:18:22 PM

What would you do? Running around and tear your hair?
So yes, staying cool is the best thing we all can do. You can't change what happened.

You can always demand "someone does something about this". How about you promoting Mooncoin to your family, friends etc.? Giving away MOON for free? It's what long-time members of the community are already doing for a long time.
Mooncoin was conceived with its supply as is. If you don't like it, don't invest in Mooncoin. It's as simple as that.

As agswinner earlier always said: "the use creates value". And as the use of Mooncoin is raising day by day, we all should not worry too much. Sure it would be not good for the market, if ALL of those ~63 bln MOON were dropped at once. But come on, not even the dumbest of dumb ones would do that.

As you know, BTC was not always "the" market, I was talking about the beginning. It had everything up to a price-drop of 90%. And still it faces drops of up to 40% today. On "traditional markets" this would be a disaster.

Look what happened to DOGE, which has a similar supply of coins and not one coin locked/frozen and with additional unlimited supply. Simply be patient, optimistic, use MOON and promote it where you can. Then it should go the same way as DOGE. Look at RDD.
Btw.: Both of the aforementioned coins were marked "coin of the week/day" by McAfee, for whatever that means.  Smiley
And with non-frozen supply.
Ok. I've asked on several exchangers about Mooncoin, but nobody wants to get in currency with only two trade places. I think that low base effect forced somebody to buy small amount even if they said no but it's not enough. I will promote further but without new exchangers it'll be a drop in the ocean.
I think there are some long-in-currency guys in this topic, so i ask them to help in adding mooncoin on https://yobit.net/en/addcoin/ at least.

Seems to be the classical chicken-and-egg-problem.
They will add Mooncoin later, if the volume is right.  Smiley

Now MOON seems to have reached its new bottom in Satoshi-land - after nearly all digital currencies were retracing in the last days - and hopefully it resumes its stable uptrend. It's good for MOON - just as for every asset - to have phases of correction. That stabilizes the price and makes the uptrend sustainable. No one needs pump and dump. MOON had a staggering ~300% gain in the last days and more than ~2000% over the last months, so a little break is nothing bad at this time. If some people take their profit, selling their coins to new Mooncoin-investors, that is not wrong.
38  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 40594 funded addresses. 2,013,649 txs. 5 block explorers on: January 11, 2018, 04:04:27 PM
wel deposit works for me but cant do anything now because coins in limbo land atm

Had little troubles with Bluetrade like them more each passing day

Coinexchange makes my blood pressure Sky High Starting To look Like Thiefs over There!




LOL dont worry its all over large amount people on trading exchanges !!  Cryptocurrencies in the elevators up !!

yes it will rise indeed but these kind of problems dempen simple people from taking action when chances arrive.
so these problems with the exchanges ect are a big disadvantage atm.

but the biggest problem in my eyes there is so little information you can get from a exchange
The biggest problem is the number of exchanges! More places to trade=more people involved.
But still no info about adding coin to other exchanges and no info from Dev about stollen coins and no info about fixing transaction problems. All this can destroy maybe one of the best coin!


about the stolen coins , dude please learn to read well, ;-)  take a look here :

Top Mooncoin addresses are unspendable and contain more than 77 billion frozen MOONcoins,
which were not delivered (till March, 2017) by the Cryptsy exchange to the Florida court and were not returned to legitimate owners


source : http://www.mooncoin.world/

now lets get over it and look at the future !!!1   BUY ans HOLD NOW !!!
Dude, don't learn to read, learn to think. It these coins frozen, how somebody moved them to Dev's wallet?
If they float at the open market they sink all the moonship.

MOON has survived other things, it would survive that, too. BTC has had similar things and still does well.
Be patient. Don't muppet around all the time.  Wink   Edit: ... not meant in a bad way.  Smiley

"everybody stay cool its a robbery" (c)
I pointed the main problem: lack of mooncoin market.
For example: 77blns@two exchanges=38.5blns each - huge press, 77blns@twenty exchangers=3,85blns each - normal day trade volume.
We need to attract new users, we need to raise market! But still only silence is the best friend.
And don't compare BTC and Moon. BTC is the market itself. Much better to compare moon and doge. Moon has new technologies, updates, interesting features and costs 3sat, Doge has nothing only exchangers and costs 80-100sat now.

What would you do? Running around and tear your hair?
So yes, staying cool is the best thing we all can do. You can't change what happened.

You can always demand "someone does something about this". How about you promoting Mooncoin to your family, friends etc.? Giving away MOON for free? It's what long-time members of the community are already doing for a long time.
Mooncoin was conceived with its supply as is. If you don't like it, don't invest in Mooncoin. It's as simple as that.

As agswinner earlier always said: "the use creates value". And as the use of Mooncoin is raising day by day, we all should not worry too much. Sure it would be not good for the market, if ALL of those ~63 bln MOON were dropped at once. But come on, not even the dumbest of dumb ones would do that.

As you know, BTC was not always "the" market, I was talking about the beginning. It had everything up to a price-drop of 90%. And still it faces drops of up to 40% today. On "traditional markets" this would be a disaster.

Look what happened to DOGE, which has a similar supply of coins and not one coin locked/frozen and with additional unlimited supply. Simply be patient, optimistic, use MOON and promote it where you can. Then it should go the same way as DOGE. Look at RDD.
Btw.: Both of the aforementioned coins were marked "coin of the week/day" by McAfee, for whatever that means.  Smiley
And with non-frozen supply.
39  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 40594 funded addresses. 2,013,649 txs. 5 block explorers on: January 11, 2018, 03:53:34 PM
Has anyone had coinexchange.io issues resolved? They sent my Moon to my wallet but the fee was way too low and now it is stuck.  Nearly three weeks and no resolution  Undecided

i withdraw some more mooncoins to my wallet no delay no problem at all about 5 minutes you know the process.

It really should be that simple but they got stuck in the mem pool from what vasilis told me, coinexchange does not seem like they have a solution for me so I might just lose my money.

I have just checked the mempool. Does not seem, that there are any of those stucked transactions still in. Only the normal ones, that are waiting to be confirmed. You can look for yourself. Open the console and input the command getrawmempool just after a block has been found ( see: https://bchain.info/MOON/ for example). The getrawmempool shows ALL txes in the mempool, even stuck ones, which are omitted on bchains "unconfirmed-list". If there is no tx, the problem is on the exchange's side. Probably they have to clean their database from those old unsent/unconfirmed transactions, until the coins reappear in your account. But if they must do it manually, maybe they delay that, because it could be a time consuming, tedious work. They should not, of course, since it is the money of their customers.

Last time I tried to search for the TX ID using a command that vasilis gave me I was able to find this info
{
"size": 520,
"fee": 0.00133400,
"modifiedfee": 0.00133400,
"time": 1514067276,
"height": 1178297,
"startingpriority": 7151759609230769,
"currentpriority": 7158553204000000,
"descendantcount": 1,
"descendantsize": 520,
"descendantfees": 133400,
"ancestorcount": 1,
"ancestorsize": 520,
"ancestorfees": 133400,
"depends": [
]
}

When I use the same command now there is no info, does this confirm what you are suggesting, that it is exchange side issue?

I assume it was "getrawmempool true", right? Because it turns on verbose mode of that command.
If your transaction is not listed in either way, it was already successfully processed or cleared from the mempool, returning the coins to the sender's address.

It depends on if you were the sender or the receiver. If you were the sender, the exchange should have received the amount, if you did not cancel with -zapwallettxes before the tx was processed. In the latter case, the coins should have reappeared in your wallet.

If you were the receiver, the exchange should recredit them to your account, so you can send them again, if they did -zapwallettxes on their side and the coins were cleared from the mempool, before the tx was confirmed, which would mean that the coins arrived at your address. If they did not send them at all in the first place, they should also recredit those coins, of course.

Were you the sender or receiver?
40  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 40594 funded addresses. 2,013,649 txs. 5 block explorers on: January 11, 2018, 02:51:00 PM
Has anyone had coinexchange.io issues resolved? They sent my Moon to my wallet but the fee was way too low and now it is stuck.  Nearly three weeks and no resolution  Undecided

i withdraw some more mooncoins to my wallet no delay no problem at all about 5 minutes you know the process.

It really should be that simple but they got stuck in the mem pool from what vasilis told me, coinexchange does not seem like they have a solution for me so I might just lose my money.

I have just checked the mempool. Does not seem, that there are any of those stucked transactions still in. Only the normal ones, that are waiting to be confirmed. You can look for yourself. Open the console in your wallet and input the command getrawmempool just after a block has been found ( see: https://bchain.info/MOON/ for example). The getrawmempool shows ALL txes in the mempool, even stuck ones, which are omitted on bchains "unconfirmed-list". If there is no tx, the problem is on the exchange's side. Probably they have to clean their database from those old unsent/unconfirmed transactions, until the coins reappear in your account. But if they must do it manually, maybe they delay that, because it could be a time consuming, tedious work. They should not, of course, since it is the money of their customers.
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