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1021  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com on: June 29, 2014, 01:36:08 PM
Pools that change coins cause stops and starts as new work is issued based on the coin that appears to be the most profitable and this will show as a lower hashrate because you are changing work (blocks).

I'd also say, that this is the main problem.

It works like this:
The miner is working on a coin, while the pool already switched to another coin. The miner submits the done work to the pool and the pool answers: "Don't give me these results, they are no longer valid, because we are already working on another coin", throws it into the bin, and the submitted work is not counted for your REAL hashrate (the "pool-hashrate"). That explains the difference between what the mining-software shows and what the clevermining-website displays.

I'd say, if a switching-pool could/would solve this problem, the profits would be much higher. Why not let the miner still submit his work for the other coin, counting that as valid, and after that giving him work for the new coin? That should be solvable technically somehow, right?

Edit: If you see this behaviour, that also explains, why setting a high difficulty is not always the best solution. The same goes for the length of the work queue. Though the miner can work better, it takes longer to solve the work, and if the pool switched over to another coin in the meantime, before the miner could submit the results, even the best results don't count. With Vardiff it is the same problem. Vardiff continously adjusts to the possible hashrate of the miner. If you have a monster machine, it sets the share-difficulty high, and when the pool switches over to the next coin, before the work-results were submitted, all is lost and Vardiff then has to readjust. So if the pool switches often, you can really lose quite a lot of your possible profit.
Again, all switching pools should really work out a solution, that allows miners to deliver their work for the previously mined coin first and count that as valid, even if the pool already switched to the next, more profitable, coin.
1022  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MOON] Mooncoin: You know where it's headed! KGW exploit FIXED 4/3/2014 on: June 29, 2014, 01:28:40 PM

5.45 billions of mooncoins

Thats almost 0.1BTC moons!!

Don't think so.

5.45 Billion MOON equals about 220 LTC, with 1 MOON = 0.00000004 LTC.

So 220 LTC should be about 3.3 BTC.... you are off by 3300 %, dude.  Wink

And now think about MOON returning to its old value of ~30 Satoshi ...  Shocked
1023  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚒[CGA] Cryptographic Anomaly - The Elusive Coin⚒ Update to 1.3.4.1 ASAP! on: June 27, 2014, 03:17:21 PM
It seems that http://cga.thedigitalmint.org has catched up with P2Pools again. Maybe it simply is too slow, to keep the pace with P2Pools speed/power in solving blocks.
1024  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com on: June 27, 2014, 02:48:09 PM
I am loosing around 4.5mhs today in this pool, My local hashrate shows perfect but the pool today is reporting 4.5mh lower on the greater part of today On the (Hash Stats Wheel). whats the go with that?

4.5mh is quite alot !

4.5 MH/sec. of what total rate?
1025  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚒[CGA] Cryptographic Anomaly - The Elusive Coin⚒ Update to 1.3.4.1 ASAP! on: June 27, 2014, 01:22:27 PM
Do you supposed the only way to fix this is to perform a HARD fork and make sure all the big players are notified and confirmed updated?


In my opinion that would be only first aid. We had that already and it went bad again immediately after that. Maybe it is because of the ultra-short block times, which prevents to build up ONE blockchain among all peers. Maybe it is because the wallet is designed strangely? Who knows. Where is the dev? We definitely need him to chime in.
1026  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚒[CGA] Cryptographic Anomaly - The Elusive Coin⚒ Update to 1.3.4.1 ASAP! on: June 27, 2014, 11:39:12 AM
p2p pool
block 200380   Fri Jun 27 2014 14:13:55 GMT+0400   5d90bb2c799d439dcfa85de2421555981a78585c68accdc1de9e32afa92ad48a


http://cga.thedigitalmint.org
Block Count:
200282
Difficulty:
1.70557464
Connections:
52
Network H/s:
113717171



what is true?Huh

Usually the longest blockchain wins (that one with the highest block count).
Just sent some CGA to Swisscex via the P2Pool-blockchain and they arrived without error.

FYI - this is the market, if you want to trade there:
https://www.swisscex.com/market/CGA_BTC

But we should really make clear, what is the situation. It is really more than annoying with nearly everyone on their own chain. Even the P2Pool-nodes are on three different chains ...  Shocked

my wallet on cga.thedigitalmint.org blockchain and synchronized ok
{
"version" : 1030401,
"protocolversion" : 70006,
"walletversion" : 60000,
"balance" : 1466.24396726,
"blocks" : 200390,
"timeoffset" : -8,
"connections" : 7,
"proxy" : "",
"difficulty" : 1.17366310,
"testnet" : false,
"keypoololdest" : 1391590665,
"keypoolsize" : 101,
"paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
"mininput" : 0.00001000,
"errors" : ""
}

    
why are so many forks ? that someone will decide? where the developers?



For me it seems that the wallets/daemons somehow don't communicate with each other to see, where is the longest chain and then automatically switch over to that.
Instead the notorious message "Warning: Displayed transactions may not be correct! You may need to upgrade, or other nodes may need to upgrade." appears. And you have to redownload/resync the blockchain. Something has to be corrected in the wallet, as it seems.
1027  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚒[CGA] Cryptographic Anomaly - The Elusive Coin⚒ Update to 1.3.4.1 ASAP! on: June 27, 2014, 11:06:30 AM
p2p pool
block 200380   Fri Jun 27 2014 14:13:55 GMT+0400   5d90bb2c799d439dcfa85de2421555981a78585c68accdc1de9e32afa92ad48a


http://cga.thedigitalmint.org
Block Count:
200282
Difficulty:
1.70557464
Connections:
52
Network H/s:
113717171



what is true?Huh

Usually the longest blockchain wins (that one with the highest block count).
Just sent some CGA to Swisscex via the P2Pool-blockchain and they arrived without error.

FYI - this is the market, if you want to trade there:
https://www.swisscex.com/market/CGA_BTC

But we should really make clear, what is the situation. It is really more than annoying with nearly everyone on their own chain. Even the P2Pool-nodes are on three different chains ...  Shocked
1028  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MOON] Mooncoin: You know where it's headed! KGW exploit FIXED 4/3/2014 on: June 27, 2014, 10:17:55 AM
Upside down moon?

TIFOFM (figured out for mysef) that the moon in the southern hemisphere sky would be inverted with respect to my normal northern hemisphere view.

wikipedia already knew but it didn't have any suitable images and I wanted to get a sense of how visually different the views are. Quite a bit, it seems.



Which moon is your moon?

Trivia: The current Mooncoin logo shows an image of the moon seen from the southern hemisphere.

But mirror inverted, as it seems.
1029  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MOON] Mooncoin: You know where it's headed! KGW exploit FIXED 4/3/2014 on: June 27, 2014, 12:03:28 AM
Where can I find out the current value of Mooncoin?As I can't seem to find it on any exchanges.I hope they're still worth something (or is it too late?).

Would appreciate some advice so I can decide whether to cash all out or hold on in the hope of rising value.Thanks Smiley

Other exchanges besides https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/145:
https://www.swisscex.com/market/MOON_LTC
https://coinedup.com/OrderBook?market=MOON&base=LTC
https://xnigma.com/markets/view/25
https://agx.io/markets/MOON-BTC
https://agx.io/markets/MOON-LTC

Edit:
https://cryptoine.com/trade/moon_ltc
https://cryptoine.com/trade/moon_btc
1030  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚒[CGA] Cryptographic Anomaly - The Elusive Coin⚒ Update to 1.3.4.1 ASAP! on: June 26, 2014, 07:04:13 PM
Important to all miners AND pool-operators

See this posting:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=437950.msg7509153#msg7509153
1031  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MOON] Mooncoin: You know where it's headed! KGW exploit FIXED 4/3/2014 on: June 26, 2014, 07:25:50 AM
As far as i can see, PoS is not the good solution, look at the PoS coins, only the original miners are supporting it, most newcomers who are not involved in the PoW don't even bother touching it.

The question is, who you see as "newcomers"? Surely a technical minded one, that likes to tinker with equipment, will be bored by having nothing to do, but start the wallet, buy coins and let the capital grow only by keeping the wallet connected to the network. But is this also true for those, that aren't able or willing to spend hours of work with getting their GPUs to work for mining?
At the end, a coin really only can survive if it is anchored in the broad mass. And I'd say 99% of those cannot even understand what mining really is (if you describe more than saying "printing virtual money"), let alone can setup a mining rig. They don't bother, if the coins they buy and use(!) are mined via SHA256, X11, Scrypt or PoS, they simply (and ideally) want to possess some, because it is "cool" to be part of it, has a collector's value, or has a real hard value for them (fast and cheap worldwide payment, secure storage of value etc.), or is a nice object for speculation.
We always have to keep that in mind.

Edit: typos
1032  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MOON] Mooncoin: You know where it's headed! KGW exploit FIXED 4/3/2014 on: June 26, 2014, 06:46:13 AM
@Graham
More reason to consider algo change to X11.  Higher hashrates and lower power consumption Smiley
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=666252.msg7520635#msg7520635

Even if X11 consumes less power, it is not profitable for most of the miners to mine coins with GPUs anymore. Be it Scrypt, X11, Groestl or another algorithm. Only those with very low electricity-costs can still mine profitable with GPUs, which is not true for nearly all (highly) developed countries with the corresponding power costs.
So as said: why saddle on a dead horse? What we need is not necessarily switching over to the next best algo, but a more widespread adoption of Mooncoin. It has to be profitable to mine it by the price, not by the algo. (Edit: And the price is made by demand, not by the algorithm.) Those miners that can mine X11 profitably, can also mine Scrypt profitably most of the time. Just see the lists on Coinwarz and Cointweak. There isn't really much of a difference between the profitability of the single algos.

Edit: And as it ever gets more easy to mine with the development of mining-software for the newer algos, the amount of dedicated GPU-mining power will proportionally go up for the other algos, too, if the price rises. So at the end the situation is the same for the other coins/algos as it is for Scrypt-based ones, because the free market will regulate that.

Edit 2:
"Bait the hook to suit the fish ... not the fisherman."  Cheesy
... I know it all depends on the perspective. But if the coin is interesting for many people to buy into, it is more or less regardless of which algo a coin is based on, because then the price rises and the miners will switch over automatically.
1033  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚒[CGA] Cryptographic Anomaly - The Elusive Coin⚒ Update to 1.3.4.1 ASAP! on: June 25, 2014, 05:19:52 PM
Appears http://www.coinmine.pw/poolinfo.php?coinid=39 just forked from Digital Mint.  coinmine is throwing a bunch of orphan blocks.


all of my pools with CGA are still on track. have to baby sit them a bit too much.

Have you set the P2Pool-nodes as addnodes in the cryptographicanomaly.conf, so that your pool can keep in sync with them? The number of orphans seems to be odd.
1034  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚒[CGA] Cryptographic Anomaly - The Elusive Coin⚒ Update to 1.3.4.1 ASAP! on: June 25, 2014, 02:23:42 PM
Since we have new P2Pools (see the node-scanner: http://5.45.105.66:8080):

Important INFO

... to the pool-operator of the Slovenian-one - http://193.95.253.142:23932/static/ - Check your daemon! It seems as if you are on the wrong chain.
... to the US-one  - http://162.243.6.127:23932/static/ - You are on a third chain. That one is wrong, too.

Make sure you don't fork, as that is really annoying for us all.
Don't let people lose their coins by mining on your pool. Thanks.
Edit: Additionally open the P2Pool-ports on your server, so your nodes can connect to the other ones and exchange the information faster.

See here for the correct block-height: http://cga.thedigitalmint.org/ Update: --> Sometimes they are much behind P2Pool. Seems as if they are too slow, to keep the pace with P2Pools power of solving blocks.
The latest block-number should be +200698 at the time of writing (updated), like it is here http://5.45.105.66:23932/static/ and here http://149.210.168.71:23932/static/ (link "Last blocks"). The pool-rate is ~66 MH/sec. at the time of writing (updated). See this pool, too, in order to determine the correct chain: http://www.coinmine.pw/poolinfo.php?coinid=39 -- at the moment lots of orphans (edit: closed).

Edit 2: Please add the P2Pool-nodes to your cryptographicanomaly.conf by adding
addnode=149.210.168.71
addnode=5.45.105.66

and resync/redownload the blockchain.
1035  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚒[CGA] Cryptographic Anomaly - The Elusive Coin⚒ Update to 1.3.4.1 ASAP! on: June 25, 2014, 02:17:29 PM
Hallo i have a problem with the wallet when i start he say reading blockerror.
i have wallet version 1.3.4.1
what can i do

If you're on Windows, go to C:\Users\YourUsername\AppData\Roaming\Cryptographicanomaly

Make a backup-copy of wallet.dat. Store it to a secure place!  This is just in case, something goes wrong (You should backup this file from time to time anyway).
Then delete everything in that folder - except wallet.dat.

Restart the CGA-wallet and wait for it to sync to the blockchain again. Report back here, if that helped.
1036  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MOON] Mooncoin: You know where it's headed! KGW exploit FIXED 4/3/2014 on: June 23, 2014, 07:41:20 PM
Altcoiner: to the mooon!
Moonie: Certainly, single or return?

 Cheesy

BTW: What do you think of Proof of Stake? A good thing for Mooncoin, too? What I like with POS is that you don't have to "waste" plenty of electricity only to find blocks ...

Edit:
Maybe interesting to to read for all that don't know POS already: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/6528/
1037  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MOON] Mooncoin: You know where it's headed! KGW exploit FIXED 4/3/2014 on: June 23, 2014, 05:37:06 PM
With so much hashrate going to hit all at once right at the off, I'm wondering if there is really any point.
What's the starting difficulty going to be? Isn't it just going to be a massive orphan fest?

Don't know what you mean exactly, but the difficulty rising does not mean automatically to have many orphans, since if you mine in a pool with vardiff for example, the share-/work-difficulty will be set according to the hashrate one adds to the pool. So someone with big power will get higher share-difficulties, someone with only a little power will get shares that are easier to solve. So that the average rate of any solved share presented back to the pool will be sent in roughly the same timeframe. IF the pool uses vardiff, AND/OR you can set the diff for your device manually in the pools settings. For example P2Pool constantly adjusts the share-difficulty to the rate of your device, but you can also add a preset to the address that you mine to (format/example: 2DAMoonT94308uyxfdj7349367sadkj+0.0000016), in order to tell the pool, that you don't want to get lower diff shares than the preset, to save you from too much work that does not fit your miner. On multipool.us for example you can preset a difficulty in the settings on their site.
Hope this helps.
1038  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MOON] Mooncoin: You know where it's headed! KGW exploit FIXED 4/3/2014 on: June 23, 2014, 05:27:18 PM
Any updates from the developers on the future direction of MOON ?

Did you read this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/MoonCoin/comments/28hd19/fresh_mods/

... and this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/MoonCoin/comments/28n4kp/official_update_june_20th_2014/

... already?
1039  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MOON] Mooncoin: You know where it's headed! KGW exploit FIXED 4/3/2014 on: June 21, 2014, 05:01:43 PM
My main concern is moving away from scrypt and scrypt-n, asic's are going to take these over and leave small GPU/CPU miners in the dust.  X11 and groestl both have much lower power consumption which is a large factor in profitability.  I am holding my MOON in hopes that it does become viable again.
Have a look at Diamondcoin v2 (DMD) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580725.0 which forked to groestl and is now recovering Smiley

Alpha-t.net is going to be shipping their 50+MHs and 250+MHs scrypt asic mining rigs in late July ...

The first big Scrypt-ASIC-machines are out already. Think of the Innosilicon- or the GAW-ones. They are hashing already.
In my opinion another algorithm does not solve problems other than the fulfilling of hopes of miners to have better profitability with their GPUs. But to be honest, the time for GPU-mining with its complicated setup is over, if you ask me. So why should Mooncoin saddle over to an already dead horse? Why isn't Bitcoin already dead? It uses an even more uneconomical algorithm in terms of power consumption. I'm strongly for everything, that keeps power consumption low, but if that would be the main goal, we could also switch over completely to Proof of Stake, eliminating all need to mine and complicated setup of mining-equipment altogether.
1040  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MOON] Mooncoin: You know where it's headed! KGW exploit FIXED 4/3/2014 on: June 21, 2014, 03:16:22 PM
OK so we have some users willing to take over development of this coin Smiley  I suggest move to X11 or groestl algorithm.  Evolution is key to survival Smiley~

But like in evolution, not all changes are to the good. I'd like to hear some arguments for another algorithm. What, if X11 and the likes can be mined, too, with ASICs in the not-so-far-future? Do we have to change again, then? What are the long term advantages of Groestl etc.?
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