Ffs... Is the Dash vs Monero thing still alive? I think it has been proven that all negative said about Monero was all FUD and nonesense. I even fell for it back in the day when it was under 5 bucks. 5 BUCKS! I would have held starting back then if only I knew better instead trading in and out of it.
Not really--dash just sort of gave up on the privacy narrative. I think ICEbreaker still pushes it, but he's like that Japanese soldier stuck on an island for thirty years who thought WWII was still ongoing. Which makes me wonder: what is Dash's USP these days? "Better than Bitcoin!" "Decentralized goverance!" seem the reasons given, though how either survive the least bit of scrutinity is beyond me. TBH I always thought Evan should just be honest and say, "Look, idiots will pay you money to use the network, more than they pay miners, so just buy, set up a masternode and watch the greater fools rush in." Though then the reality sets-in that it's a game of stake holder chicken, so maybe not the best sales pitch. Yes - I'd forgotten those points. They all seem so quaint these days. |
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Ffs... Is the Dash vs Monero thing still alive? I think it has been proven that all negative said about Monero was all FUD and nonesense. I even fell for it back in the day when it was under 5 bucks. 5 BUCKS! I would have held starting back then if only I knew better instead trading in and out of it.
Not really--dash just sort of gave up on the privacy narrative. I think ICEbreaker still pushes it, but he's like that Japanese soldier stuck on an island for thirty years who thought WWII was still ongoing. Which makes me wonder: what is Dash's USP these days? |
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I'll admit it. I've woken up to better-looking charts.
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Subscribe to our Airdrop  Uh, nope. |
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Probably when Bitcoin will raise again...
BTC has risen over 20% in the last week , but alts have dropped significantly in the last week. What will alts do when BTC does another 10/20% percent bounce ? probably dump. A 10% dump ? alts will dump. It's insane i think. But i hope i'm wrong and markets will turn normal at some moment of time. This is nothing compared to growth last year... That growth went on for a year. This is when it gets peoples attention... not one week, lol. I don't know what people think that 1 15 min green candle is bullish market and red candle is crash? If you can't take this bear market then sell all your coins and move along (probably a lot of people do this and that is the reason why market is as it is). HODL People want bitcoin for 10th August.
What is going to happen on 10th August? I believe Febo is referring to an expected SEC decision as to whether a BTC ETF will be permitted. |
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I wish to fuck FP would stay off Twitter sometimes. He's never as funny as he thinks he is.
mere semblance of criticism of FP
Do you even know what the word "semblance" means? Fluffy's main job as CEO is to make sure whiny snowflakes like you are melted down into puddles of salt water. But you already knew that... FP's troll spurred me like few other things have done.  I think what upset me the most is that I feel that trolling is a form of bullying  Notwithstanding the possibility that I might be overlooking the 'obvious self-parody' of your response, I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that, to my offer of a hand shake, your response is a 'no'. You're breaking my goddam heart, you know that? |
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As usual, you take far too long to spew the same old same old. The degree of anger it must take to actually sit down and compose such a diatribe in response to my comment is truly astounding.
Brevity. Wit. It's not hard.
Way to miss the obvious self-parody saturating every word of my post. It's like you were born without a sense of humor and are unable to properly operate a sarcasm detector, even when aided with clues in giant red letters. No wonder Fluffy's funny magical crypto tweets make you clutch your pearls before collapsing onto the nearest fainting couch, weeping softly for the appalling lack of good manners on The Internet. Have you ever participated on any other threads? No? Try to get out more. I'm sure Deepak Navikant has some appropriately mealy-mouthed platitude regarding the value of opinion diversity you could peruse rather than keep being "truly" astounded by your own lack of reading comprehension and context awareness.  Monero runs on comedy and Fluffy is our Chief Entertainment Officer. If you can't handle that, perhaps the Dash community would be a better fit and more able to accommodate your sensitivities. On reflection, I can see that I'm to blame for this unfortunate exchange between us. I had quite simply forgotten how easily triggered you are at the mere semblance of criticism of FP. (And yes, I completely missed the self-parody of your post. My apologies.) Shake hands? |
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Fluffy's tweets are hilarious! Go be humorless, salty, and easily offended somewhere else. Baliji and Naval have enjoyed their wealthy, thin-skinned asses being kissed by concentric circles of simpering yes-men for too long. They have become hyper-entitled and too brittle to appreciate perfectly normal banter and good-natured ribbing from their peers, and thus must be taken down a notch or two, back to the level of the rest of us mere mortals (but still well above buffoons like Vinny). In this post-Enlightenment Judeo-Christian/Greco-Roman society and culture, we have strong traditions of self-deprecation and calling out our figurative 'naked emperors' on their bullshit. That invaluable feedback is why we Men of the West are able to produce and enjoy nice things. IOW, laugh at yourself, or others will do it for you. If you want a caste system where having money makes you an irreproachable Brahmin, go live in a miserable Hindoo shit-hole like India (AKA ancestral home of the Srinivasan and Ravikant clans). Baliji's insufferable virtue-signaling and Sage Guru Naval's New Age Hustle and rank hypocrisy ("I block the outraged" LOL) are ripe for satire. Fluffy & Friends are doing us all a favor and providing great lulz in the process. I understand he's free to do as he wants and that it's too fucking bad if I don't like it.
I still think it's juvenile and serves little purpose.
That's because you are an Eternal September noob. Try reading some older threads from the Blockchain Wars and you'll discover the power of Toxicity(tm) and Trolling won critical battles for public opinion against XT, Classic, Unlimited, and S2X despite self-identified 'mature' people *EXACTLY* like you crying endlessly and pouting about propriety, maturity, and decorum. #LookAtMeImIcebreaker As usual, you take far too long to spew the same old same old. The degree of anger it must take to actually sit down and compose such a diatribe in response to my comment is truly astounding. Brevity. Wit. It's not hard. |
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So you think he should get few more dogs to spend more time walking them and less for Twitter? He reminds me of the boys who would sit at the back of the class and make jokes at the expense of others. Boys who have an overwhelming need for applause and attention. I suspect it's my age. I can't get my head around the idea that spending one's time and energy on Twitter in order to indulge in the current circle jerk, is a proper use of a grown man's day. And yes, I understand he's not the leader of Monero. I understand he's free to do as he wants and that it's too fucking bad if I don't like it. I still think it's juvenile and serves little purpose. |
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In the absence of @aminorex these days, I nominate @Febo as our cheerleader-in-chief.
He's doing a great job of keeping our spirits up, our eyes on the prize, and our skin in the game.
Thanks @Febo
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With regard to Tari, I understand the details of this project have still to be finalized and speculation on it is premature. That said, what I've read so far is that Tari is to 'built on top fo Monero' which has been taken to mean that Tari will be merged mined alongside Monero. In other words, that Tari will benefit from the security that the Monero network offers (should Monero miners decide to implement it).
Question: does Tari need permission from the Monero community to do this? If Tari wasn't being led by FP would this be an issue for the Monero community? Is there any cost to Monero from merge mining Tari? Is there any benefit to Monero from merge mining Tari?
Why, in other words, should the Monero community agree to this (assuming they have a say in the matter)? I don't have a position on it, just wondering if there are opposing perspectives on the issue.
Since Monero is a permissionless blockchain (in other words there are no limits as to who can use it, mine it, or validate it) you would be right the community does not really have a "say" in the matter. At least insofar as whether or not a L2 solution can be built atop, and use the blockchain. This is also true with Counterparty, Lightning, and Eltoo on the BTC blockchain. On the other hand fees are built into a blockchain to stop the possible abuse. In his recent report (can be found on reddit) Dr. Noether talks about the implementation of bulletproofs and how this might present a need for Monero to make changes to it's fee structure so the chain is not abused. So if Tari is sucessful enough to be writing tons of data to the L1 chain we might, as a community, need to talk about what fees look like. IMO, this is a problem we want to have as it means Monero is being used. Good reply. But isn't there a difference between the Monero network being used (as in Tari) and Monero (the currency) being used? |
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With regard to Tari, I understand the details of this project have still to be finalized and speculation on it is premature. That said, what I've read so far is that Tari is to 'built on top fo Monero' which has been taken to mean that Tari will be merged mined alongside Monero. In other words, that Tari will benefit from the security that the Monero network offers (should Monero miners decide to implement it).
Question: does Tari need permission from the Monero community to do this? If Tari wasn't being led by FP would this be an issue for the Monero community? Is there any cost to Monero from merge mining Tari? Is there any benefit to Monero from merge mining Tari?
Why, in other words, should the Monero community agree to this (assuming they have a say in the matter)? I don't have a position on it, just wondering if there are opposing perspectives on the issue.
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any guesses where monero bottoms?
Long term seems Bitcoin is following 2014. Almost identical, since dates are similar. Bitcoin went then approximately from 1200 to 200. So if next year will continue as last half year did then we might have $3500 Bitcoin at some point and on average not much higher at start of next year. You can imagine where will Monero be. So there is your bottom. I dont predict this, but there is still possibility. I do hope and expect Bitcoin will recover faster then last time. If you are asking in upcoming weeks, then it is ofcourse way higher. OK, while writing it makes me think. I call that Monero will not go under $50. Most of time will stay way over that but should not go under this number ever. Edit: I think I just now realized that I have a lot of complex emotional attachments to XMR. Anyone that looks forward to Monero hitting $50 again can just fuck right off. If you'll pardon my French. |
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I believe in this coin. This is the leader among anonymous coins. And it seems to me that Monero will remain the leader forever. Even though anonymous coins appear more and more.
Actually they don't, coins claiming to be anonymous pop up all day long and they all fall short of Monero and most are nothing but lies. I'm unclear how Tari will help Monero's price.
Did someone say it would? The price action in the market after the announcement suggests little if any connection. I think he was referring to the fact it is posted in the speculation thread so he was speculating on what effect it would have on the price.  Exactly. |
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I'm unclear how Tari will help Monero's price.
Did someone say it would? The price action in the market after the announcement suggests little if any connection. Not as far as I'm aware. I have little doubt, though, that it was a question on most people's mind in this thread. I merely articulated it. Why so prickly? |
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I'm unclear how Tari will help Monero's price. Is the purchase of Monero a requisite for tokens on Tari?
What will help is the professionalization that VC's, marketing departments etc, will bring to the project. Though Monero might not be their focus, it certainly stands to benefit indirectly.
That said, two years (the projected development period) is an eon in Crypto.
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The fact that Circle thinks that offering Monero does not infringe upon its BitLicense, is very positive news for Monero. At the very least, it removes (at least in theory) yet another obstacle toward Coinbase adoption. After all, if Kraken can offer it on its exchange without legal hindrance and Circle can offer it without BitLicense problems, what other objections can there be?
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