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21  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will bitcoin drop? on: September 13, 2017, 06:10:47 PM
If bitcoin will drop its price I am sure that bitcoin will still recover and will still hit what its value as of today, bitcoin right now are very trusted and a lot of people now are using bitcoin. So I guess even if bitcoin drops it will still recover and have a good price in the future!
Although the community of Bitcoin today does not like the past still small, but you have to know recently, almost investors are speculator, they do not have knowledge and experience about cryptomarket, this is advantage for whales create panic easy on the market.

Price of bitcoin will never or ever reach the low  value .In past three days, the price of bitcoin may vary or fluctuates. But it value will not go below the value of 4000$.Last week the price of bitcoin is  greater than the value of 4500$.In past three days the price is fluctuates .But the value is stable on 4100$.


You should not need to fear the price of bitcoin reach low prices right now, but for me this is only temporary, and I think when viewed in the chart the movement of the bitcoin in change-change determines the direction, and I am sure the price bitcoin is going up again so that it reached at number $5000 at the end of this month, because of the bitcoin had achieved a price of $4800 on some days at the beginning of this month
If September is month of bearish trend, I think the price of Bitcoin cannot recovery till October coming. However, maybe we will see the bottom of the price of Bitcoin in this month bellow $3,000 again. The FUD of whales recently really make investors worry and panic.
22  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin goes up very high should i buy a house? on: September 12, 2017, 02:54:08 PM
If your funds are enough to get a house then why not go for it ? As you'll have your own place that no one can kick you out from and no landlord will make your life hell every 1st day of the month or wherever you throw a party at your place .
You'll spare yourself rent also , and if you travel you can rent it qnd gain some money .
Having a real estate property is a great investment because that is one of the way to have a stable income and offering renting service for that house will give you consistent income per month and you can live for free if you have enough real estate properties or investment that is generating income for you every month.
Moving money from bitcoin to real-estate is less appropriate. Considering returns available from the real-estate are pale compared to the bitcoin returns. Even now bitcoin has better chances of getting more returns than the real estate.
Buying a house with bitcoin is good idea if person wants a house to live in.

Right... If somebody wants to live in it, is ok though. Meanwhile I think he can also cash out some high percentage and then allow the rest to keep appreciating again. From the look of things, I think he invested a very long time ago so he can cash out some and do other gains rather than just leaving it there. Meanwhile, the reason people get into investment is to have plenty money and keep moving and investing in other things.
Correct! Moving investment from one tool to other is indeed important. Same thing mutual funds do. Here important part is moving investment to more profitable instrument is correct, given the situation, moving bitcoin to real estate is tedious compared to moving bitcoin to dollar.
Why we moving our Bitcoin to Real estate is tedious? I think do that can helps us create a passive income and it better than Dollar while FIAT always decreases value and the demand buy Real Estate increases every year.
23  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you have some BTCs, why not have some Gold too? on: September 12, 2017, 02:51:15 PM
Golds price is not growing so quickly. Also, as far as gold is concerned, there is a high risk to be stolen or even accidenatally lost
Trust me, the only I don’t have a gold is because there is no way I can earn such, and I’ve never such opportunity. If I do, bet me I will invest into it. But I will prefer getting the gold physically, not in any other way. I was got into bitgold; a gold company, but people believed they’re scammers, so I left for something useful.
We also know Bitcoin is an asset for speculative in this year, of course if compare it to Gold, Gold cannot compete to it. Gold is an asset stable and has a huge community (maybe only behind Dollar), gold also is best choice for investment long term.
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Have you dumped your BCC yet? on: September 12, 2017, 02:46:28 PM
Bitcoin cash became an alt the moment it wasn't able to call itself bitcoin. I hate to say it, but bitcoin has the name behind it and public recognition. Imagine how much of a pain it would be if the US dollar split into the dollar and dollar cash to explain the situation to the general public. Now, if bitcoin cash surpasses bitcoin in market cap for years on end, I'd hope the old bitcoin community would give up the name.
Lets not get ahead of ourselves, bitcoin cash is very far from surpassing bitcoin in market cap and even if that happened, market cap does not tell the whole history, a few months ago Ethereum was very close to bitcoin in the market cap and yet bitcoin is easily the most widely used coin on the world and that is not going to change.
Total market cap of Ethereum has been passed total market cap Bitcoin earlier this year, but Ethereum just kept in this place 2-3 days and comeback to #2 very soon.  Grin
25  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do I hold? on: September 12, 2017, 02:42:02 PM
I am assuming that you have invested based on your research and if that is the case then you should hold it for some more time. Ultimately it depends on your risk profile that up to what extent, you are ready to bear the loss.

I remember a few years ago, I made an investment in one alt-coin and within a week I was in 35% loss but as the amount was low and there was a research behind that investment decision, I decided to hold it. Then in few days, I not only covered the loss but also made 10%+ profit without changing anything in that investment. However, each case is different and should be assessed with a different approach.
I always suggest holding coins when they are in dumping phases because it is pretty obvious in the crypto market trend that the dumps are followed by pumps. I will also recommend him holding his coins in wallet and forget them for some time. This will help him to stay calm and ultimately he will end up with profit.

And even today price has come down so its not the right time to sell as it will surely affect your profits if you don't hold and sell at this stage and everyone is hoping to see higher price in coming months so its always good to hold your coins till it reaches to the maximum value.
There are many traders want take their profit in Bitcoin with rate $5,000/BTC, this is reason make the price of Bitcoin has trouble for increases to this target. Of course, if the demand of investors enough for create a strong bullish, we can breakout $5,000 easy, however, we do not have whales want to pump Bitcoin reach to that price.
26  Economy / Economics / Re: could bitcoin be replaced by another crypto currency? on: September 12, 2017, 02:34:25 PM
i do this question because i´ve read in this website issues with bitcoin, slow mining process, high fees, etc. and i´ve read too good reviews of some altcoins, ethereum (smart contracts), ripple (for transfers between banks), dash and nem. these altcoins called 2.0. could bitcoin become just in future virtual gold reserved to companies and rich people?

There is a possibility. However the probability of this ever happening is quite low.

In all of cryptocurrency's history, bitcoin has always been the number one crypto. Litecoin, Ethereum, Ripple have all come close but none have ever overtaken it. I believe that the reason this is the case even though you can see that Ethereum has more functionality, ripple is able to do interbank transactions and already have partners, and litecoin being cheaper in transaction fees and faster in blocks is that bitcoin has a reputation that no one else has.

All these altcoins are built on top of bitcoin's blockchain technology. Bitcoin was the first to implement it, it has a wider community etc. You barely can find one person that is involved in altcoins but not bitcoin. But you'll find lots that only believe in bitcoin, but not altcoins.
I think it would not be happen. Because bitcoin is known and the most trusted currency than other cryptocurrencies. And bitcoin was the currency that has a wider society. But for me. We cant predict that happenings if it will happen. So until it not be, keep on earning some bitcoin.
In my opinion, almost altcoins on the cryptocurrency world cannot compete to Bitcoin in this year, because Bitcoin just getting started grows, any altcoin just helps ecosystem in cryptocurrency world attractives investors know it.
27  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is $4000 the perfect time to buy on: September 12, 2017, 02:30:00 PM
Why wait for something when you can buy bitcoins for cheap right now.

OP can wait in November  to buy cheap coins, uncertainty is not over yet and bitcoin will slow down its price increase until November

Besides, when we get to the end of the year,  people sell btc to have fiat, to buy your things by the end of the year.

Do you think this rules still useful in this year while other rules has changed on crypto market? Because we are trading in speculative market and it does not increases or decreases like our thought (normal rules). In present, if the price of Bitcoin falls down, all crypto on the market will fall down too.
28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: what alt coins worth the invest? on: September 11, 2017, 02:48:35 PM
ETH on $200




Your analysic is predicts correction price of Ethereum in mid term or long term, maybe about 3-6 months it will happening. Because it depends your base price for start draw trend line, if I choose $150 for base price in short term, I will have $25x or higher than is good price to buy.
29  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: September 11, 2017, 02:38:01 PM
Trading in very small amounts will lead to very small profits. Reasonable. I'd recommend increasing the number of your bitcoins to at least a small amount only at a glance. And with larger you can try some place to trade. In case if it will not be profitable in one, in another it will be at least something.
I think if you are starting doing trade for the first time even with smaller amount, the main focus should be on learning all the ups and downs instead of focusing on profit and loss. I will suggest everyone to go on with small amount and then keep on increasing amount when you think it’s feasible.

Yes, you are right every beginner should learn to trade with a small amount of money because without learning he might lose all the money which he invests. Trading is not one day it will take some time to get knowledge about trading so it is always good to trade with small amount and you can learn new thing about trading with that small amount only.
I agree with you, if you are a beginner much better to try in small amount to get an experience. This is because you need to experience and get a lesson from your mistakes. And if you get an experience you need to upgrade in high amount and apply all your acquired knowledge from your past trading to make a good decision to avoid too much losing of money.
Small amount or large amount are also need you keep your rules when trading. If you cannot control your emotion, I am sure you never get rich in trading crypto. Actually if you can do like my said, starting with large amount still good.
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Do you think LTC go up soon? on: September 11, 2017, 12:10:27 PM
It will rise steadily, it's younger brother of Bitcoin after all  Wink Smiley

In future at most 10 cryptos will remain in the market with significant market share with top 2-3 sharing major market share and rest rallying behind, rest will have low or insignificant market share. Bitcoin and Litecoin are the major contenders for top 3 spots with Bitcoin on top but some unexpected can also happen but its chance is low.
At the moment there are hundreds of coins I do not see why we will need to have such a low number of coins, there are going to be major coins that satisfy the most general needs of the population but there may be the need for very specific projects in which specialized coins will be the best choice.
it's natural law. the stronger will remain and survive , the weakest will just gone and extinct. my guess is that the coins that have great community will always in top of cryptocoin list and dominate the market dominance.
bitcoin used for many things, ethereum have smart contract that making eth capable of creating ICO and making people buying eth to funds ICO. while the other cryptocurrency, I don't see what the rest from these is really that necessary.
If that was the case then there will only be but a handful of species on the planet and in fact what we see is the opposite, so I think the same reasoning can be applied to crypto, there is going to be a few dominant coins but there are going to be huge number of small coins fighting for the small markets.
Maybe you forget function anonymous transactions of Monero, it is best coin for helps us avoid somebody want to track our money. Bitcoin now cannot compete to Monero about this function, because after BTC-e exchange offline down till today, almost user are UG have transfer to Monero or other Altcoin better than Bitcoin like Zcash, Dash ...
31  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Can be $5,000 Again? on: September 11, 2017, 12:06:44 PM
Just days ago, predictions and projections were pointing to the possibility that Bitcoin can be able to clobbered the $5,000 mark and it did happen. But what followed was a big correction due to massive sell-off (profit-taking is the possible reason here which is nothing alarming actually) and so we are now back almost at the $4,500 - $4,600 range.

However, since Bitcoin had already broken the $5,000 wall, it would be now easier for it to do it again this time. We just don't know when can that be...will it be tomorrow, next week or just within the month of September?


We really don't know exactly what will happen, but I also think that bitcoin will hit $5000 again, maybe by the end of the year. We know now that bitcoin can really increase that high amount. And maybe greater than that.
I was not sure if bitcoin hit the $5000 before end of this year, also due to continues declining of bitcoin price in the market there's a possibility that more supporters of bitcoin were lose. However, I still believe that bitcoin value will increase up to this point I was not lose hope with that.
Bitcoin has been reached to $5,000 in last month, however it happens very fast and we do not know that. But the price of Bitcoin now has strong support in $4,000 range price. I bilieve Bitcoin will test breakout $5,000 soon and create new ATH.
32  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin now the strongest currency in the world? on: August 28, 2017, 07:10:59 PM
I still believe dollar is the strongest currency in the world. It will take a long time for bitcoin to rise up against the competition in terms of currency being used worldwide.

Dollar will be the strongest currency in the world as the world's economy are relying to them. And when it goes for the crypto currency world, bitcoin is the strongest, most popular and powerful crypto coin. But one day, we will see bitcoin dominating the forex market and even dollar will be competing with it directly.
Do you think the government will helps Bitcoin have opportunity compete with Dollar in future? No, never! They never make that future become true, because before that future, they have some way control Bitcoin or user Bitcoin.
33  Economy / Speculation / Re: Invest in Bitcoin right now? on: August 28, 2017, 07:04:53 PM
Bitcointalk.org members will be speculating about the price variations with reference to the adoption happening within certain time period. Unlike the price, I feel it's good to invest into bitcoin. Price has risen to moon, as well has fallen back to very low price in no time. But if you go through the chart the user who has invested into it and has the patience to wait hasn't faced loss. So it's good to buy and hold for years, so that even if price decreases can understand the situation and can sell respectively.
You can choose sell your Bitcoin before the price of Bitcoin breakdown, but predict when is best time highest price is impossible with this market. We just can feel satisfied with the profit when reach our target.
34  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you think billionaires invest in BTC? on: August 28, 2017, 07:00:49 PM
I think the billionaire's are even the one who own big bitcoin considering the fact that they have the means to earn bitcoin more then an average person.
Money is a spirit and wealth can never be enough for any person as long as they still leave on earth.
So yes billionaire's invest big in bitcoin.
There is a chance that is true because even they are already rich like millionaires and billionaires they are still hungry for more money because they are preserving their wealth for the next generation of their family so even they can afford all they want they still need to earn more.

I think I read an Article that Bill gates is interested on cryptocurrency and maybe he would aiming to invest on btc if this one is true. And provably theirs billionaire invested with btc since if you look the the cap for bitcoins reach for billions this one could ever rise for more when bitcoins can gain more fame to the businessmans on outside world.
These big whales are nothing else than billionaires. Billionaires do invest into bitcoins for earning big profits and multiplying their money manifolds. Bill gates is since no more the richest person of the world, so he will definitely take interest in making huge investments into bitcoins and this is good for the survival of bitcoins.
I think each person a different field, and I believe that Bill Gates would not be too interested and investing in Bitcoin, he has his career, he does not need to invest anything else. The whales you say are rich people from bitcoin, they are billionaires who make money from digital money, their job every day is to earn bitcoin as much as possible. Real billionaires will not invest in bitcoin, they have places to help them make money, what they need to do is focus on their work, they do not have time for bitcoin.
billionaire is not a person who always update his business status through facebook social networking his hidden effort matches the bitcoin secrecy awake in bitcoin i think bill invested 25% treasure in bitcoin
Hmm..., I think still have billionaire invest to cryptocurrency on market, not only Bitcoin. But in my opinion, they do not putting few Billion Dollar to this market, because cryptocurrency market with them still very young and high risk when putting a huge money.
35  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to Become A Bitcoin Expert on: August 28, 2017, 06:55:31 PM
Go to the past in 2009.buy as much as bitcoin. Come back to present. Voila, you become a Bitcoin  expert.
pun intended
LOL! Cheesy Do that just helps you get rich and it not mean you are a Bitcoin Expert. However, I think if you are rich man in Bitcoin, your word will make more people believe your predict right all...
36  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 28, 2017, 06:52:23 PM
Moneran's shouldn't forget the great Mintpal pump of 2014, which resulted in an ATH that wasn't broken for two years.

The important point though is that the price record was reached before trading began at Mintpal. Perhaps this time is different?


For me it does not really matter if we hit this week ATH yet or not. As some say volume on bithumb was today $200 millions, what is more then on all other exchanges combine.   This is what Monero was lacking in last few months compared to other top10 coins.   Now will be easily in top10 volumes and more on radar of traders.  This was huge step for Monero. I had no ideas a week ago it is so important.
With things planed for Monero I am sure price will be way higher at end of the year as it is now.

Additionally - for some reason coinmarketcap do not yet included bithumb in data.

Ridiculous!  They've been generating data for hours now!
No, it is true. I do not know the reason in today Coinmarketcap do not update Monero volume trading on Bithumb exchange after listed 12 hours. Maybe, coinmarketcap need after 24 hours for confirm it.
37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Upcoming ICOs on: August 22, 2017, 07:13:23 PM
I believe they come in the beginning of September but Unikrn is doing an ICO.

This is the company of Mark Cuban, the Dallas Mavericks billionaire owner.

They do eSports betting and do avoid regulation they used a virtual currency in the past.

Mark Cuban called Bitcoin a bubble a few months ago but seem to have changed his mind :-)

I read they want to raise $100 million...

Not sure why they need that much money, having a billionaire as an investor and as they are already in business for some years... Additional money is always good but that seems to me just monetizing the free PR they are getting because of their star investor!

What do you guys think about it?

Found the site https://unikoingold.com/. They don't have an announcement thread here, do they? Can't find it. But Mark Cuban behind it is huge!
Because Unikrn confident they are trust project and do not need PR many more, most ICO review site are set this project to highest core and very safe when investment.
38  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin: Best investment in 2017? on: August 22, 2017, 07:09:19 PM
The price of bitcoin will continue to increase in all directions, but I do not know if I can say that it is a good investment tool for now, but for me, it is still my favorite.

You can say Bitcoin like a tool helps us become to speculator, because most trader are buying Bitcoin just by the rumor and the value of it make them cannot stop interested it hehe.
39  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin break $4500 this week? on: August 22, 2017, 07:06:20 PM
Bitcoin is back near to 4000$ but you never know the what surprises awaiting when you talk of bitcoin as it can anytime be sky rocketed because it have potential to do so. Well I believe it would make to 4500$ very soon and to 5000$ till the next month only.
Haha, Bitcoin has dumped under $4,000 in short time, however Bitcoin prove it is strong "bull" and comeback very soon, I hope trap bear do not let some trader sell their coin, because they will regret if decision that.
40  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it possible for the bitcoin to lose it's value ? on: August 22, 2017, 07:04:37 PM
Hi , I'm new so basically I still have a lot to learn about the cryptocurrency , but I would like to know if it would be possible for the bitcoin to start the downfall ? I mean like what scenario can happen that the bitcoin would be pushed back like 5-6 years ?
Sorry if my post is in the wrong place or it's not relevant.

Yes, of course like every currency, BTC is prone to losing its value once in a while, but according to its trends and history, it was able to withstand a lot of it and was still able to bounce back and come stronger that is why, it is regarded as the most successful of the cryptocurrenmcies today.
The momentum growth in this year of Bitcoin very strong, and do not easy breakdown like in few years ago. So, you can see everyday have many people want buy Bitcoin, because they understand the potential of Bitcoin can helps them get rich in future.
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